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    Posted: July 28 2018 at 2:02am
Well Said!!!
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I think Trump is more than capable of producing a blip in the economy with policies that benefit Wall Street and the very tip of the business pyramid (CEOs and the like), but I doubt he has the know how to sustain that growth. I'm no better off in real terms even though the stock market is doing well, as are most of the people I know. Concentrating the wealth in an ever smaller group is what he always wanted, and in that respect he's meeting his goals.

With more and more checks on excess being removed from banks and other financial institutions, my fear is we'll just crash from even loftier heights when they show their true colors, as they did in 2008. Accumulation of wealth for the sake of it, with no intention of it benefiting others, is just a reflection of Trump's business life manifested now as national policy, and I honestly see no good outcome from that kind of governance. 



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There is no getting away from it, Trump looks really good at the money stuff.  The American economy is booming, jobs are up and the stock market looks healthy.  Democrats can whine all they like, but facts are facts.

However, most of America's allies are unhappy, huge numbers of people have no medical cover, employment safety legislation has taken a large backward step, race tensions are at their worst for decades and corruption is growing exponentially.  Industrial diseases, like black lung, are on the rise and global efforts to curtail climate change are under increased threat.  Children have been incarcerated and some are still separated from their families, but all of this pales into insignificance compared with the attack on the free press.

Oh by the way, looks can be deceiving.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2018 at 4:17pm
why does it suprise you,

 with these people its anything for for PROFIT,

Black lung from the Mining companies  ( my father in law is a Gordie was a pitman )

Lead in petrol from the Petrol companies

GLOBAL WARMING  from the Massive population on the planet

Lung cancer from the Tobbaco  companies

Asbestos  that what killed my DAD

Obeseness from the fast food we eat ,and the Corn syrup  thats "harmless"

i could go on 

big business care very little for ANYONE

                                              MONEY IS THEIR  GOD
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That's terrible. As if being a miner wasn't already one of the hardest jobs on the planet...

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Ever wonder why I call this POTUS a liar?  well he calls this fossil fuel: "nice clean coal" for starters. 


A tenth of U.S. veteran coal miners have black lung disease: NIOSH

(Reuters) - More than 10 percent of America’s coal miners with 25 or more years of experience have black lung disease, the highest rate recorded in roughly two decades, according to a government study released on Thursday that showed cases concentrated heavily in central Appalachia.

The study by researchers from the government’s National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health marks the most authoritative evidence to date of a resurgence of the incurable respiratory illness caused by coal dust, which plagued miners in the 1970s but was nearly eradicated by the 1990s.

“Although many consider black lung a disease of antiquity, it is undeniable that … these contemporary cases resulted from injurious exposures encountered in the 21st century,” the authors said in the report, published in the American Journal of Public Health.

The National Mining Association, which represents U.S. coal mining companies, has cast doubt on assertions that black lung disease is rebounding, arguing that miners are not required to participate in screenings.

“The exclusion of healthy individuals who self-select out of the program may skew the results – we won’t know until more data is available,” said NMA spokeswoman Ashley Burke.

The authors of the NIOSH report said that their findings underscored the need for stricter regulations as the administration of U.S President Donald Trump seeks industry feedback on coal dust policy enacted in 2014. The 2014 standards reduced allowable miner coal dust exposure in underground mines to 1.5 milligrams per cubic meter, from 2 mg/m3.

“Enhancement and diligent enforcement of the 2014 standards remains critical for reversing these trends,” they wrote.

Burke said the NMA does not oppose the 2014 limits.

She added: “The study’s findings are very troubling but, importantly, cover miners whose exposure dates back decades, before more rigorous standards were put into place.”

APPALACHIAN CLUSTER

The highest rates of the disease are appearing in central Appalachian states like Kentucky and West Virginia, according to the report. In that region, a fifth of long-serving miners have black lung disease, and five percent have an advanced form considered completely debilitating.

“We can think of no other industry or workplace in the United States in which this would be considered acceptable,” they wrote in the report.

Health officials, who have been flagging anecdotal evidence of increased rates of black lung for years in Appalachia, say miners in the region are plumbing the depths of played-out coal seams using heavy blasting equipment that can exacerbate dust exposure.

The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine last month said that coal companies need to make a “fundamental shift” in how they control exposure to coal dust. It also urged regulators to enhance dust monitoring and conduct more research on the causes of the resurgence.

Meanwhile, a federal fund to aid victims of black lung disease could require a multi-billion dollar taxpayer bailout if Congress does not extend or increase the tax on coal production that funds it, the Government Accountability Office said last month.


Would a clean fuel do that?


Source:   https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa-coal-blacklung/a-tenth-of-u-s-veteran-coal-miners-have-black-lung-disease-niosh-idUKKBN1K92W1

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[Although I dissagree in almost all respects with the clomate-change-denyers, I do understand their reasons for disbelief.  But, even if they chose to ignore the science, statistics and accumulation of proof, not to mention the rising landslide of opinion among the better educated; hopefully, the doubters can't ignore the rising tide of human misery.]

Black lung disease cases spike among former US coal miners

Valentina Ruiz Leotaud | |

The proportion of US miners with Progressive Massive Fibrosis has grown dramatically since 1978, with a significantly accelerated rate of increase since 1996.

This is according to researchers at the University of Illinois, who delved into the data of 314,176 miners applying for black lung benefits from 1970 through 2016. Of those, 4,679 people were suffering from PMF.

The scientists also found that the highest burden of disease is in the central Appalachian states of Virginia, West Virginia and Kentucky.

“The miners affected appear to be working in smaller mines that may have less investment in dust reduction systems,” said Kirsten Almberg, lead author of the study and a research assistant professor of environmental and occupational health sciences at UI's Chicago School of Public Health.

In a university press release, Almberg added that due to changes in mining practices over time, mines today may produce higher levels of crystalline silica, which is more damaging to the lungs than coal dust, during coal extraction. "And miners appear to be working longer hours and more days per week, leaving less time for their lungs to clear the dust that has been inhaled,” the researcher explained.

Progressive massive fibrosis or PMF is a respiratory disease afflicting coal mine workers and caused by inhaling coal dust and other particulates.

In theory, rates of PMF should have declined following a 1970s legislation that mandated that companies should control dust levels in US coal mines. However, as Almberg and her colleagues discovered, the disease is making a comeback.

“More research is needed to determine the causes of this increase in disease, but what is clear is that miners in recent decades have been over-exposed to dust, and ways to reduce these exposures is much-needed,” the researcher admitted.


Source:   http://www.mining.com/black-lung-disease-cases-spike-among-former-us-coal-miners/

[Just because 'The Great Prophet Of God' - Donald 'new Messiah' Trump calls it "Good Clean Coal" doesn't make it so.  The Devils greatest trick, according to some, is to convince people he does not exist.  Donnie's is to convince people he cares.  That's a good student!!]
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