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Posted: July 16 2018 at 2:59pm |
Donald Trump backs Vladimir Putin, not US intelligence, on election meddling at Helsinki summitUpdated 30 minutes ago Standing side-by-side with Vladimir Putin, United States President Donald Trump has refused to blame the Russian leader for meddling in the 2016 elections, casting doubt on the findings of his own intelligence agencies and sparking a storm of criticism at home. Key points:
On a day when he faced pressure from critics, allied countries and even his own staff to take a tough line, Mr Trump said not a single critical word about Moscow on any of the issues that have brought relations between the two powers to the lowest ebb since the Cold War. Instead, he denounced the "stupidity" of his own country's policy, especially the decision to investigate election interference following the findings of US intelligence agencies. A prosecutor announced an indictment three days ago of Russian spies for hacking into Democratic Party networks. Mr Trump's performance at a joint media conference in Helsinki stirred a wave of condemnation in the United States, where the White House has struggled for months to dispel a suggestion that Mr Trump was unwilling to stand up to Mr Putin. His performance was denounced as "treasonous" by a former CIA chief and US senator John McCain called the meeting with Mr Putin a "tragic mistake".
Asked if he believed US intelligence agencies, which concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help him defeat Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, Mr Trump said he was not convinced. "I don't see any reason why it would be [Russia]," Mr Trump said.
"President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today." In one response, the Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, a Trump nominee approved by Congress, said in a statement: "We have been clear in our assessments of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and their ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy, and we will continue to provide unvarnished and objective intelligence in support of our national security." Hours after the Helsinki summit, Mr Trump tweeted, "I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people." The US has been 'foolish': TrumpBefore the summit even began, Mr Trump blamed his own country for the deterioration in relations. "Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of US foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!" he said on Twitter. The Russian Foreign Ministry tweeted back: "We agree". At the news conference, Mr Trump was invited by reporters to offer any criticism of Russia but he repeatedly declined. Asked if Russia was at all to blame for the poor ties, he said: "I hold both countries responsible. I think the US has been foolish. We've all been foolish," he said, before veering into discussion about his election victory. "I beat Hillary Clinton easily and frankly we beat her … we won that race and it's a shame that there can be even a little bit of a cloud over it," he said. US made to look like a 'pushover'The Republican head of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Bob Corker, said Mr Trump's comments at the joint media conference made the United States look like a "pushover". US House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan, the top congressional Republican, took a more tempered approach but insisted that Mr Trump "must appreciate that Russia is not our ally". Former CIA chief John Brennan went further, suggesting Mr Trump should be removed from office.
Not only were Trump's comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???" In some of the strongest words yet reflecting the unease of Washington's traditional allies, Germany's Foreign Minister said on Monday that Europe could no longer rely on the United States. "To maintain our partnership with the USA we must readjust it," Heiko Maas told the Funke newspaper group. "The first clear consequence can only be that we need to align ourselves even more closely in Europe." First posted about 2 hours ago |
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You couldn't make it up could you? My eyes/ears are on what McCain has to say. Being a Republican, he has no partisan hidden agenda. Also, he is not remaining in politics for personal gain - he is dying and we can only imagine what personal hell he is enduring to remain politically active. He is persisting out of a love of his country. A true hero! Watch this space.
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CNN: Donald Trump sent the worst tweet of his presidency this morning.
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McCain = HERO in all sense of the word........
no heel Spurs here...... |
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I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:
Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44852812
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Gee,
How unexpected.........Not......
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Yeah, I have seen it. I have to say, I get what Trump was trying to do; I would even go as far as to say it was laudable (Now there is a shock!). Better relations with Russia would be a good thing. He is to be praised for trying to achieve this goal. Sadly, it was like watching a toddler try to behave like an adult . Putin has a superb poker face, but even he failed to conceal his smug humour. I felt a bit sorry for Trump. I am sure he had no idea of the sh1t storm he unleashed. By the same yardstick, Putin was total master of the situation. Just like the North Korea talks, far more was conceded than gained, only this time Trump managed to insult/disparage his country's security services at the same time. It was pitiful. I get he has no diplomatic nor political training or experience, but for God's sake, why won't he take advice from those who do? Surely he can't be that stupid!
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Good question! Why does Trump do this? I wonder if Putin has threatened Trump's family? Look at Putin's behavior in murdering journalists with poisons etc. That is one way that the Italian Mafia would influence people. |
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I believe the president is living in his own reality! He's a total narcissist! Why else would one man think he knows better than the FBI, CIA and NSA? Either he's completely insane or Putin has something on him or his family! If the latter it must be completely outrageous because he's betraying his country to cover it up!
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Buy more ammo!
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NEWS.com.au: Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin summit: Myth about US president busted.
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ABC News: Donald Trump returns to US to face bipartisan condemnation after standing by Vladimir Putin and Russia.
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He could have done a lot in that meeting to upset his allies (giving in to Putin on Nato issues was one fear). At least when he put his foot into his mouth it was more a domestic, ie USA, issue. Make America Great Again: let Trump emigrate to Putin-land.
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There is a lovely p-take on one of his slogans which appeared on some of the pritest banners here a couple of days ago: "Make America Hate again!" Well, at least internal squabbling helps limit that.
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