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    Posted: March 31 2006 at 2:29pm
I would assume that most of you out there face ridicule from neighbors, co-workers, whomever, for voicing fears of a potential pandemic.  Just hang in there.  Hopefully nothing will evolve from this, and those nay-sayers will enjoy a good laugh at our expense.  Sure, it's easy to laugh at somebody tripping out over flocks of birds in Pakistan and Israel getting sick.  And then suggesting that it would spread like wildfire across the globe. 
  But I can't imagine anything worse than watching my kids starve and knowing that I did NOTHING to prevent it. 
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I know all about laughing stock. My co-workers laughed at me. Even my wife thinks I am crazy.  So, if this pandemic happens and my co-workers come calling, I will show them the middle finger. Can't do that with the wife. Wink
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I have a few relatives & neighbors prepping right along with me.  The others, do not even know I'm prepping.  I don't trust them, and wish to keep my prepping under radar.  We actually bring supplies in the house between 1 & 5 in the morning outside of bottled water & what appears as weekly groceries.
 
I may mention an article to see where someone's head is, and depending on their response may give information on items to purchase; however, most folks look at me as if I have several heads.
 
 
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If they not paying for it, or carrying it in, it's none of their business. That is my opinion anyway.
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I cannot understand the non prepper's, for heavens sake this is important ,most of us have been spoon fed all of our lives not having to face the cold or hunger its a" false reality "the bubble may burst soon ,i am totally amazed with the UK attitude toward this ,and if this all blows over then i will laugh with the fools who did not prep,in fact i am hoping for that scenario .Samoa Thumbs Up your doing the right thing i to have children and i fear for them more than myself lets face it what sort of parent given the facts at present would not be thinking of the possible dangers and trying to protect there loved ones.

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Yep, been there as well ... kinda hurts when you're own family pokes fun at you for being the family nut-case (Angry) but I've learned to deal with it. 
 
A couple of months ago I sent out my final e-mail along with a list of sites they could look into IF they were interested because I was tired of convincing them to prepare ... anybody that asks me now ... I just keep smiling Smile, and change the subject.  If they're persistant, I know they are more than interested - I might cave.  But it's really up to them if they want to prepare or not.  At this point, I just tell them I already gave them enough info and to look it up on the internet. Do ya think that's being too rude to family/friends?
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I have kept my mouth shut mostly, though I've approached a few people just to see what they thought of it.  They didn't think it was going to affect them anytime soon.
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I prep all the time hoping this turns into nothing bu t I realize I wont ever face my child with no food and that the kind of dumb broad I am.
 

Pride is over rated  hard work never

 

The food bank will love us though  if a vaccination kicks in short order

I would just love to arrive at a food bank with a ton of can goods

I wont tell anyone else about my prepping I think lots of people are prepping and not telling anyone it kind of private.
    
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I have tried to get through to old friends, relative and people who are dear to me. They either act as though I'm one of those obsessive characters or completely ignore my messages.   

One of my oldest friends (over 30 years) tried to rationalize my obsession with the threat as being caused by a period in my past when I was poor and hungry.

It's NOT about ME! They don't want to know. It amazes me that so many people think "not knowing" releases them from responsibility and consequences.

Many of the people I've tried to warn live far away so they will have to deal with it on their own if it happens. My biggest concern is about the ones who live nearby. I dread having to deal with them turning to us because they didn't prepare. It would be a no-win situation regardless of how we handle it.

I'm afraid we would need to help them to the detriment of our own security. Guess I'd better find a way to prep some more.
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Oh when they poke fun, I just joke right back. My son chuckled at me when I was reading my Bird Flu book that I ordered from Amazon for $5. I told him, don't laugh, cause I have a survival book too! The other day somebody gave him an institutional sized can of Fruit Cocktail (6 freakin' pounds!). He didn't know what to do with it so he brought it over and said "Here mom this is my contribution to your pandemic collection." I tell them I started an new hobby. Some people collects coins or stamps but I have a pandemic collection!  It works here anyway cause I'm in hurricane country as well so I'll be prepared either way.

My daughter lives 6 hours away and I didn't even say anything to her. I just ordered her both books and sent them to her. Surprise!
 
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  Hi sweetpea, you are not being rude to your family or friends.  It takes a lot of your energy to constantly try and help someone to help themselves.  i have stopped trying so hard to convience people to prep.  If they seem intrested i give a little advice and direct them to to internet sites.  Believe me your energy is needed in other places for yourself and family.
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This is something I can relate to.  I actually started making some preparedness preparations before Y2K, because I thought it might be a problem.  My friends and family thought I was a bit nuts, and with the benefit of hindsight, they were right, sort of.  (I say "sort of" because I didn't really think anything terrible would happen, I just thought it might happen, and that it would be smart to make some preparations just in case.)

Since then, I've come to believe that we face a number of potential dangers, any one of which might occur.  BF is just one of those.  So I'm still doing the preparedness thing, and I'm still getting a full quota of crap from friends and loved ones, who, to my amazement, cannot conceive of anything that might disrupt our lives.

My standard operating procedure, if the subject comes up, is to  explain that I think it just makes sense to take some basic precautions "just in case."  Almost always, this leads to jokes at my expense, which I go  along with, because why fight it?  You have to pick your battles, and I've come to accept that I'll just do my thing and endure the jokes. 
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I have been putting up with this junk for many moons. For this particular event, I just take opportunities to drop very subtle hints, hoping that the person will become curious about it, then look into it on their own.
 
At work, my supervisor and I are "investment buddies". We talk about stocks, real estate, and other goodies. I recently showed him what I was making on "Avian Flu Stocks", filled him in just a little on the background of H5N1, then said nothing else about it.
 
Another guy at work is a gun nut, but not much of a survivalist, so I recommended that he stock up on ammo, and emailed a couple of links to him on BF, (AvianFluTalk.com, for example)
 
For people I really care about, I am dropping additional hints, and also trying to prep extra on their behalf. I don't know how far I can get on that project, but I will give it my best effort.
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I have convinced my parents to prep. I talked to my brother and told him to visit this site and start learning about surviving BF. It has not yet sunk in for him. I don't know how to convince him. I want him to be ready.. I would hate to see someone I love in trouble.
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They don't laugh, cause I don't talk.
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I don't talk either.  I made ONE comment to a guy at work.  He said that he watched the news an we have about as much of a chance of getting the B-Flu as winning the Lottery.  What does one say to that?  Nothing.
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I'm done trying to convince my friends to prep. A dear friend who lives next door walked over and helped my bring in bags of stuff today. She laughed out loud at my prepping.

I plan to give her a small box I filled with some beans, rice, tuna, ramen noodles and bouillon cubes so she won't feel totally unprepared and not bring the subject up again.
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A co-worker told me that he has a relative who works in pharmacy and was told that BF was just another bug that we can handle, and it was being hyped out of proportion. He also stated that BF can be treated with antibiotics.   I just smiled and walked away.  
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Here ya'll, lol.  If they're not prepping they are morons or idiots.  We are just taking approprite measures for our survival, an intelligent response all things considered.

No one has ever not taken me seriously when I have spoken to them for 15 minutes or longer about this coming "Event".  In 15 minutes they realize that I am trying to get them to save their own lives and the lives of those they love, nothing more, nothing less.
 
Nothing is more convincing than to present the facts in a serious setting, especially after nightfall. ( just something I learned along the way.)
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In general I've found that people are more interested in a conversation if you purposely leave them with some unanswered question. I will bring up the topic, but say very little. Sometimes by the time I bring it up again, they will ask a question.

I try to often be vague or only talk about something that pertains to THEM, like if they have a cat, I will bring up current cat news. If someone cooks or is into nutrition, I'll weave a little BF talk into the conversation. Just a LITTLE bit though! Often just a comment that needs no response. I leave it up to THEM to ask a question.

I don't have the best social or conversation skills :-( This one is really taxing me lately :-)

As RichieRich said, he just mentioned he was making money off of BF stocks :-)

Less is more in talking about BF.

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Originally posted by Thordawggy Thordawggy wrote:

I don't talk either.  I made ONE comment to a guy at work.  He said that he watched the news an we have about as much of a chance of getting the B-Flu as winning the Lottery.  What does one say to that?  Nothing.
Sigh.
 
Have you won the lottery? Do you have bird flu yet?
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Man, it makes you think. If you want to be prepared for the pandemic people think you're stupid or a sheep or whatever. These are dangerous times on this planet.
 
We should all act as we see fit. The whole bird flu pandemic wouldn't be on the TV and papers if it wasn't totally real. These experts aren't lying, you can tell.
 
I buy every newspaper and watch Fox news to stay ahead. I don't want to be a victim!!!!!
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I was visiting my sister and family and of course Im trying to tell my thick headed brother-in-law, (who thinks he's a walking encyclopedia) about preparing for the bird flu and he laughed a me...Then he asked me where am I getting my information..I said the government.  I told him about the Formans as well.  He was silent and I gave him the sites that were set up to help inform and prepare for the bird flu.  So he pulled up the site on the computer  I gave him. When he saw how long the articles were he said "yeah right". 
 
What a idiot. Angry
 
I did buy some food we're not all that crazy about...I'm going to share that with him...
 
They have two kids you would think my sister would think for herself and plan.  She doesnt do anything without her husband premission or exceptance.  Confused
 
This morning I sent him a small article...Told him it had small words and he should read it for the sake of my neice and nephew.
 
I'm basically telling friends and neighbors about the sites and some information and asking them to a least read the information and make an informed decision of weather they want to prepare our not...
 
It's hard telling people about this not knowing that it will actually happen.
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I'm definitely not telling co-workers about BF and stockpiliing.  However, I have told my family.  We live many miles from town so they think I'm stockpiling in the event of a blizzard or something.  In the event that a pandemic or other crisis happens, I'm nervous about others knowing we are stockpiling and having to defend our stock.
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I am not bashful or shy, but my wife and teenage kids have asked me to shut up around non-family members except under 2 conditions:
   
    1. I am specifically asked, or
    2. We have body bags from Pandemic victims in the US.
 
Otherwise, they view preparation as a harmeless hobby. The cost is not really a factor. We have always been over prepared due to the large number of hurricanes in Florida.Much better than a midlife crisis, and keeps me occupied.
 
Surprisingly, I am now getting asked A LOT- in private.
 
I prepare a 1 page e-mail summary each week for non-preppers.
 
Otherwise, I shut up to avoid embarassment to the family.
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It seems to me to be a very slooooooooww process. My husband and sister-in-law have gone from "here we go again" "Y2K all over again" to an acceptance of prepping for food at least. Lynn has an almost ideal set-up at her home, but hubby is still not on board with needing to get fuel and things like like. Can't get it thru his thick head, that if power fails I won't be able to cook!!!!!!!!! Those kinds of preps and PPE especially I'm doing on the QT. The rest of the family thinks quite clearly that I'm completely of my rocker. MY daughter-in-law has an eight month old son and she is the one who is most hostile!!!! BReaks my heart.
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Up until last year I was always the crazy one prepping for hurricanes.  I would get all supplies before the season started and well in advance of an actual storm threat I would stock up on gasoline, perishable food, Ice, water, etc.  After Katrina struck and we could not get gas,store shelves were bare, and power was out for several days I wasn't crazy anymore.  I am prepping for pandemic right along with my hurricane supplies and other than a few rolled eyes from my family they do not consider me obsessed anymore.  I think Katrina showed them exactly how fragile our just in time economy really is.
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My husband has tried to talk to some of the people he works with about pandemic flu and the need to prep in case H5N1 goes H2H. He said most are not taking it seriously and don't think anything is going to happen. Many of these people have family living in places like Vietnam and other places in SE Asia they have recently visited and plan to continue visiting. He is very afraid that one of them will return from such a trip infected and be able to spread it to others and that he will unknowingly bring it home to our family. Nobody in his company from the bottom to the top is taking the threat seriously. He is so frustrated he has quit trying to talk to anyone about prepping for pandemic flu for fear that if it does happen they will be here knocking on our door looking for food. My fear is he will wind up quarantined at work an hour away from home with these ignorant idiots.
I have had similar experiences with our friends. They just don't see the threat and so are not prepping. I decided some time ago to just not mention it unless they do, no point wasting my breath. I am however sharing recipes with friends that I have compiled from websites and from my own experience and sharing those with them, they are all preps recipes that they will at least be able to make use of if they even stock just some basic kitchen staples. I think one at least is beginning to get what I am doing and considering prepping. I hope so. Sometimes the subtle approach works best.
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Please, make sure he has a bag of supplies with him at all times! If he is not doing it already, it would be a good idea for him to start  using anti-bacterial gel and wipes and work (in his area of control) and have PPE ready.
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My sister openly laughs at me.

She used to work for Roche and jokes that it's a pity she quit.

She says I’m way too serious about it.

 

One friend says she thinks it's irresponsible of the media to scare people by mentioning it. Another friend says that she has her kids say a prayer every night for God to save them from the bird flu, but no prep, and the other, says "Oh I don't think that’s going to do much."

 

My husband complies with prep tasks to a point, gets irritated, and then settles down to working on the list again but he refuses to buy a wood stove and he is driving me nuts.

 

I just try to keep moving along and get more prepared each day.

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Hang in there Spirit. It seems that most of us are laughed at or ridiculed by people we care about for bringing it up.   

I used to get angry abouit it, but now I just hope that they are right and I am wrong.

If it becomes reality, we won't be out there fighting crowds to pick up essential items and they'll wish they had listened to us.

If it doesn't happen, we'll save on grocery expenses while we gradually use up our preps. The non-food items will be good to have around for any emergency.

As a result of prepping, I've discovered ways to save money by purchasing larger bags and boxes of items and now have a vacuum sealer to insure they store well.

Much of the information I've gained from this experience and this forum will remain with me the rest of my life.

Most of us in this country are just very spoiled and accustomed to running to the store for every little thing. Our ancestors seldom went to town, but kept a pantry and several shelves filled with staples.

They might not have been able to whip up a gourmet meal on a moments notice, but they seldom went to bed hungry and always had food to put out when someone stopped over.

Even my husband was laughing when I started, but now he sometimes tries to nudge others into prepping too.
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My husband and I got the eye-rolls when we tried to warn people about Y2K, and boy did I feel stupid when nothing happened.  I could feel the "told ya so's" from everyone who knew I was prepping.  It's weird though, I have alway felt down in my bones that some day I would live through some horrible upheaval.  So here I go again.  I still have a lot of the Y2K preps, dried foods and such.  We still have our 1000 gal water tank, but I shudder to think what the water is like in there.  I have the Berkeley filters, solar chargers, hand grinder, propane tanks, wood stove and generator, but am sorely lacking in canned goods, paper goods and OTC meds.  I am not telling anyone this time about my preps unless they bring up the BF to me first.
 
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  TrailsEnd, I also prepped for Y2k,I even moved from Chicago, to Ms. to get out of the big city. We installed  a wood burning stove bought large amounts of food and had a well put in.  We spent quite a bit.  My husband laughed at me for a long time until Katrina hit.  Some of those same preps saved us from long long lines, we already had what we need including a generator and gas.  I have not regretted one penny we spent for Y2k or for the bird flu.  I just wish all those that could afford it would install a wood burning stove.  You will not be sorry you did. 
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Femvet, We are working on a backpack for him to keep in the trunk of the car with some personal supplies, changes of clothing, toiletries, masks, etc... just in case he does get stuck over there. I have to get him using the hand gel but I'm not certain he can carry it with him as he works in a dry room.
 
Question: What is PPE? I can't figure that one out.
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Originally posted by P_S_N P_S_N wrote:

Question: What is PPE? I can't figure that one out.
 
Personal Protection Equipment
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Oh! Got that Wink, just never heard it referred to that way.
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Originally posted by TrailsEnd TrailsEnd wrote:

.  We still have our 1000 gal water tank, but I shudder to think what the water is like in there.  I have the Berkeley filters, solar chargers, hand grinder, propane tanks, wood stove and generator, but am sorely lacking in canned goods, paper goods and OTC meds.  I am not telling anyone this time about my preps unless they bring up the BF to me first.
 
 
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I have a large storage tank also, and change out the water every 6 months.  For your size tank, add 16 oz of unflavored bleach when you fill it.  The water should be sweet and clear when you change it out next time.  I water the shrubs around the house with my old water so it does not go to waste.   Make sure  the tank is well sealed.
 
 
 
 
 
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April 11th and Im still looking like a nut job.  My husband although he is listening a little after months of me throwing out bits of pieces of info. at him still thinks Im crazy, but there are days he'll listen to me. 

He has agree to listen to the Dr. Michael Osterholm video that this forum provides.  If you haven't seen it you absolutley need too. 
 
Last night our Neighbors that just moved to florida came to pick up the rest of there things out of storage.  This first thing he said was they were going to buy a cow and chickens.  Dead  My husband looked at me like don't you start.
 
I had to say it...DONT BUY CHICKENS!  They live next to a canal.   I explain why and they laughed at me...
 
My sister has read and heard what Ive told her and she saids "(If I die I die)".
 
Im done telling anyone.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Don't worry about the chickens --if H5N1 mutates, people wont be getting sick from chickens, you will be getting sick from other people.
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I dont worry about what people think. There is enough in life we cant control to recieve advance warning of a potential life threatening problem and not plan ahead for the possability is foolish. I would not want to be in the position of watching a loved one die especially one of my grandchildren, knowing that I could of prevented it by a little advance planning.
 
If nothing happens the worst im out is some time, all the things Ive stocked up on are things i use anyway - with the exception of masks. I have saved many times over the cost of those masks by what i am saving at the store now. So how can preparing be concidered foolish?
 
Those who are laughing are the foolish ones. Reminds me of the ones who laughed at Noah.
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Your right, the concern will be when it goes from human to human but, right now its a bird pandemic.  To know about the bird flu and start putting chickens in your yard with there 3 dogs is just not smart.
 
Although I don't have chickens now we raised  them for 10 years.  Fresh eggs are the best, but it is much cheaper to get them from the store.  It's expensive and alot of work to keep chickens.
 
I have two ponds on my property and I do look out for sick or dead birds.
 
In a month I will have at least 10 kids from Neighborhood wanting to catch frogs.  Not sure what to do about that.  They have so much fun looking for the bull Frogs. 
 
 On the lighter side...I here frogs taste just like chicken. LOLLOL 
 
 
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Me and the better half gave up over a month ago, talking to friends and family about prepping.  We decided we are on our own.  Prep for our family!  Our selves plus the kids.  We feel it is our duty as responsible parents to take care of them, because they are to young to understand.
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I have pretty much kept my mouth shut to my family about what I am doing.  But, I am laying in enough so that if my daughters want to get out of the city and stay with my son and I there will be enough.  I guess I'd even take in my ex wife if she showed up. 
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Trailsend,
 
I have a large storage tank also, and change out the water every 6 months.  For your size tank, add 16 oz of unflavored bleach when you fill it.  The water should be sweet and clear when you change it out next time.  I water the shrubs around the house with my old water so it does not go to waste.   Make sure  the tank is well sealed.
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Twoolf,
Thanks for the advice, I know we put bleach in when we filled it, but that couldn't have lasted this long.  I will use my fire hoses and run that water to the garden.  Even though we live on 5 acres, we're still on city water, and it's pretty expensive, but if I can use the old stuff to irrigate, I'll break even.
 
 
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Originally posted by TrailsEnd TrailsEnd wrote:

Trailsend,
 
I have a large storage tank also, and change out the water every 6 months.  For your size tank, add 16 oz of unflavored bleach when you fill it.  The water should be sweet and clear when you change it out next time.  I water the shrubs around the house with my old water so it does not go to waste.   Make sure  the tank is well sealed.
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Twoolf,
Thanks for the advice, I know we put bleach in when we filled it, but that couldn't have lasted this long.  I will use my fire hoses and run that water to the garden.  Even though we live on 5 acres, we're still on city water, and it's pretty expensive, but if I can use the old stuff to irrigate, I'll break even.
 
 
 
One other thing, make sure you have a "food grade" hose to decant from your tank.  The standard garden hose leaches all kinds of stuff you dont want in your body.  You can get them at wallyworld pretty cheap in the automotive section (for RV use generally).
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