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    Posted: May 03 2006 at 12:19pm

Spending bill would block processed chicken shipments from China

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May 3, 2006 11:57 AM

AP Food and Farm Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Spurred by concerns about bird flu, lawmakers voted Wednesday to block chicken processed in China from entering the United States.

The prohibition is part of a $94 billion spending bill for food and agriculture programs that cleared a House subcommittee and now goes to the full Appropriations Committee.

The Bush administration had said last month that it would allow poultry processed in China, so long as it comes from birds raised and slaughtered in the United States. Agriculture Department officials said the meat would be fully cooked and perfectly safe.

But Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut said there's no way to guarantee the safety of chicken cooked and packaged in China, where thousands of birds and several people have died from bird flu.

DeLauro, the agriculture spending subcommittee's senior Democrat, mentioned a recent recall in Tennesee of chicken breast fillets, sold as fully cooked, that may have been undercooked.

''If undercooking can occur at a U.S. plant, where there are daily inspections, think of how easy it will be for undercooking or other problems to occur in a Chinese plant, which is inspected by U.S. inspectors only once per year,'' DeLauro said.

''The public health risk increases exponentially when a product from China is undercooked, because the threat of avian flu is so high in that country,'' she said.

The panel approved DeLauro's amendment blocking processed chicken from China on a voice vote.

The spending bill would provide $80 million to protect against bird flu, about $33 million less than what President Bush requested.

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Rahhhhhhhh!!!
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Well surprise surprise...they did something right!!  So is the trade deal dead or just post poned?

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Poultry shipments also likely spread bird flu - expert

04 May 2006

SINGAPORE: A leading flu expert warned the scientific community on Wednesday against blaming the spread of the deadly H5N1 virus on migratory birds, saying the movement of poultry around the world could play a major role.

"We forget that there is an enormous commercial industry with the movement of animals all the time. That, to me, is the most obvious thing to look for," said Kennedy Shortridge, who spent three decades studying influenza viruses.

"Don't rush to blame migratory birds straightaway," he said in Singapore at a bird flu conference organised by the Lancet medical journal.

Shortridge's assertions would probably not sit well with many experts in this field, who have credited the spread of the H5N1 virus in parts of Europe, Africa and the Middle East in the past few months to wild migratory birds from China's Qinghai Lake.

An outbreak of the virus in Qinghai Lake last May killed thousands of birds and that particular strain of the virus has since been found in affected places in Europe, Africa and the Middle East.

That gave rise to the popular theory the virus was probably brought to these places by surviving wild birds from Qinghai, in remote western China.

But Shortridge questioned this, saying: "Birds go north-south, they don't usually go east-west."

"There's a railway line that runs from there to one side of Qinghai Lake and there's a road that goes to the other side. If you look at the movements with H5N1, they don't seem to tie in with migratory bird routes for the simple reason they seem to follow the Trans-Siberian railway," he added.

"Lots of people don't realise that there's movement of poultry from one country to another, even to Nigeria, where we've got bird flu. People are transporting all sorts of poultry meat."

Since re-emerging in Asia in late 2003, the H5N1 virus has killed 113 people out of 205 reported infections, most notably from Asia, Turkey and Egypt.

Although it is predominantly a bird disease and most of the victims contracted the virus directly from birds, experts fear it could mutate into a form that will transmit easily among people and trigger a pandemic of catastrophic proportions.

However, not everyone was quick to debunk the migratory bird demon.

Hiroshi Kida of the department of diseases control at Japan's Hokkaido University said migratory birds and water as agents of viral transmission cannot be underestimated. H5N1 can be preserved in frozen lakes and ponds, and be carried from place to place by wild birds - not necessarily in one, spectacular sojourn, but many short-haul flights.

"Not one bird can do this, but many, many birds are involved in many, many short flights, helped by water," Kida, who gave a lecture at the conference, told Reuters later.

"Through water-borne transmission, the virus is carried to Europe, Africa."

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It's about time!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good news for you all in the USA  Clap i am happy you received this result i found it hard to believe this import had even been considered.I hope we in the UK are not next in line for some cheap processed chicken Ouch
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Must have been a few politicians that were scared
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Raven, it is not over yet.  This has to go to the Houses for votes and then to the President for signature.  If he vetos it then back to both houses to see if they can overide it with a 2/3 vote.  We have yet to see if this will be in the bill that goes to the President.  At least there is enough background noise to have this happen.
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Ironstone i did not realize this legal issue remained,my hopes are with you .

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Even if he signs the bill, he can still issue a "signing statement" (he's done that 750 times so far) that effectively nullifies the authority of Congress.
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In which case it goes to the Supreme Court if challanged.  The court has alread deemed them illegal in regards to the Constitution.
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I am extremely pleased  with this development.Clap
 
 
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Hearing vowed on Bush's powers

Senator questions bypassing of laws

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | May 3, 2006

WASHINGTON -- The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, accusing the White House of a ''very blatant encroachment" on congressional authority, said yesterday he will hold an oversight hearing into President Bush's assertion that he has the power to bypass more than 750 laws enacted over the past five years.

''There is some need for some oversight by Congress to assert its authority here," Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, said in an interview. ''What's the point of having a statute if . . . the president can cherry-pick what he likes and what he doesn't like?"

Specter said he plans to hold the hearing in June.
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"hard to believe this import had even been considered"
 
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Well not only that, it was ridiculous, the birds raised and slaughtered in the US, then sent to china for cooking or packing, then sent back??
It was nuts!!  Hope it isn't revisited when we aren't lookin!!
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EWWWW  I dont think this President has vetoed anything ??!!
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Don't get all excited, it will end up with a bunch of senators puffing and huffing. blabbering on for months, then a vote.  Nothing will come of it, just MORE WASTED tax dollars!!
 


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Originally posted by Gimme Gimme wrote:

Redcloud,
Don't get all excited, it will end up with a bunch of senators puffing and huffing. blabbering on for months, then a vote.  Nothing will come of it, just MORE WASTED tax dollars!!

 

    
Yeah, you got that right. Once the initial dust up dies down (hey! alliteration!), they will quietly pass something similar.

We'll be eating chinese cats before you know it. MMMM, tastes like chicken.
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