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nettie4263 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 27 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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Hope it's okay to start this thread here. Since there is one on canning, I thought a thread on vacuum sealing would be great.
I just bought a FoodSaver yesterday. I really like it, but would like more ideas on how you are using foodsavers in prepping.
For example. If I buy a box of Cheerios off the shelf at the grocery store and it has an expiration date of November 2006, will vacuuming the product make it last BEYOND it's stated date?
And for something like cereal, would you just vacuum the whole box, or what? I saw a thread on 1/2 gallon jars...how do you vacuum pack with those?
Thanks!
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Hi netti4263!I have had a foodsaver for years now.The best way to preserve cereals is in jars.Any jars that have the pop up button.Just make sure when you open one of these jars is not to crimp the sides.I also suggest that you save jars such as pasta sauce etc.Sanatize them for later use.Yes vacuum sealing cereals will extend the shelf life.Do you have a jar sealer?That is most helpful.There is also something called a univeral jar sealer.It is not made by the Tilia company but some very clever guy.Very inexpensive and works like a charm.I'd also like to suggest that you check out a yahoo group called foodsaver.They have many helpful suggestions and links to inexpensive bag materials and so forth.Its' a very active group and I find that subscribing to the digest cuts down on email.I'll post a link to universal jar sealer.I can't praise it enough. By the way I am in no way with the inventor of the jar sealer, just a very satisfied customer.Hope this helps.
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netti4263: Hers is the link to that sealer.www.universaljarsealer.com I forgot to mention that they use pump n' seal check valves.That pump n' seal would useful to have in your preps as well. I own one as well as my food saver. |
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Grace your are welcome.Glad to be of help!
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2ifbyC ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 30 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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anon54,
That's terrific! I just ordered the gift pack.
Thanks!
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Thank you for that tip and link! I have the jar sealing attachments for regular mouth and wide mouth jars, but they don't work on anything but canning jars. I love using jars instead of bags for many things and just ordered one of these. |
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Food savers also work great for items you need to put in your "bug-out" or "go-bags." Ideal to water proof and prevent spills or leakage with anything that might "spill or leak." Also a good place to put your "important" copies of your documents, money ... just remember to make a little "V" cut right up next to the seal so you can easily open the bag.
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Nettie4263, a vacuum sealer will extend shelf life by a factor of three to five since it completely removes oxygen. I really like the idea of pre-preparing rice dishes that I can boil. Much less mess later when water will most likely be scarce.
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Where is the cheapest place to buy the bags (or containers)? I've seen them at Walmart, and wondered if that's the cheapest or if anyone has another place they get them.
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nettie4263 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 27 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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Ordering the universal jar sealer...thanks!
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nettie4263 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 27 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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I've read here that the Wal-Mart bags are the cheapest, but I have found some Black & Decker bags at my Wal-Mart that were a better buy.
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Hi,
My local Walmart only carries the quart bags (22 bags for $9.27) however, I really like the pint size bags which Target carries (32 bags for $9.xx) The pint bags are 6" x 9" and I use them to vac seal individual chicken breasts / fish fillets etc.
Using the food saver is great. It extends cheese life (in the fridge) 3 to 6x longer. Before vac. packing, shredded cheese would go bad in a month. Now I can hold a package for 6 months without a problem.
I'm also vac. Packing 5 lb sacks of flour and sugar to keep moisture and bugs out over the summer. If your tilia came with the canning adapter, you can pack cereal in glass canning jars and vac seal them. It works great.
Enjoy your new toy!
K.
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DOES ANYONE WHO HAS THE UNIVERSAL JAR SEALER KNOW IF YOU COULD MAKE YOUR OWN APPLESAUCE AND THEN PUT IT IN WASHED/STERILIZED JARS FROM GROCERY APPLESAUCE? I SAVE ALL MY JARS AND WAS WONDERING IF THIS WOULD WORK. IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE IS PUTTING MOSTLY DRY ITEMS INTO THE JARS.
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packrat/mama,as long as you don't crimp the sides of the lid I dont see why it wouldn't work.Just keep it in the fridge.I think its a great idea.Mind sharing your recipe?I love applesauce,I have a great recipe fron cooking with pressure,I think thats' the title.The book was written by Lorna J. Sass.
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packrat/mama ![]() Valued Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 04 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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anon54 - Wow - that was my grandmother's name , "Anon". I don't have an applesauce recipe - I'm one of those " wing-it" cooks, for the most part.
I got rid of my victorio strainer years ago, when we moved into town, thinking I'd never use it again. Last summer bought all the canning supplies and decided to GO BACK TO BASICS , before I even heard of BF.
Planning to purchase a pressure cooker, managed to snag a used range that hubby's co-worker was getting rid of for basement use. Stocking meats in freezer, planning to can those. Thanks for advice on Jar Sealer - think I may invest in one.
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I would be lost without my FoodSaver! I love that thing. We buy in bulk alot since we're feeding a mini basketball team . I buy the double pack bags at WalMart, they are cheaper and you get more than buying the FoodSaver brand. They work just like the FoodSaver brand also. I think they are $6 and change for the two pack of the gallon size bags compared to almost $9 and change for one roll of the FoodSaver ones. I also use them to marinate beef jerky in, since it basically "fast" marinates the meat when you vac seal it. I just put the meat in the pre portioned cut bag, add my marinade, vac seal, put in fridge for about a couple hours then take out and slap it in the dehydrator. Saves time and actually we think it adds more flavor to the meat since it gets sucked into the grain with the vac sealing process. We've started making jerky to add to our food supply as an alternative meat source in case the power goes, etc. Can't ever go wrong with good ole beef jerky
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I wondered who would start this thread. I'm glad someone did :)
We've had a unit for years, but have never used it. Mom got it as a gift, but there was manual...or at least not one that she can find now. I've looked on the net, but have been unlucky. So, anyone with a Kenmore Saver willing to tell me how to even turn this thing on?
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2ifbyC ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 30 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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There's a good chance that it is a FoodSaver with a Kenmore label. Go here to search for a suitable manual: http://foodsaver.jardendirect.com/productmanuals.ad2 .
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Does anyone know if you need to add an oxygen absorber when vac sealing dry stuff....like rice, beans, etc.???
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2ifbyC ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 30 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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I haven't and don't plan to. I do freeze for three days prior to vac packing.
ETA FictionWriter, did you have any luck in finding a manual?
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No luck yet in findinf that manual. It's a Kenmore Seal-n-Save, and it's made in italy. Any suggestions? Sears does not have manuals on-line :(
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July ![]() Valued Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1660 |
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what brand of vacuum sealers do you have and do you like it?
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Nettie, where did you get your FoodSaver. Can you buy it at a store or do you have to order it? Hubby and I were looking at one at WalMart but was unsure if it was a good one or not.
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Fiction Writer..Your Kenmore Seal n save may just be a sealer not a vacuum seal which is what you really need.Because the vacuum sealer sucks the air out.I have both type but the seal n saver just plug in lift lid light comes on wait 3 minutes then put a bag(has to be the type made for sealers) over the heat strip(becareful not to burn yourself)then close lid on the bag only take a second or two,thats it.But A vacuum sealer you'll hear it sucking out the air.Hope this helps.
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starfire ![]() Valued Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 16 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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Vacuum sealers can be found lots of places Walmart,Target(that where I got mine)Kmart,ebay,Amazon,overstock.com.Linen-n-Things,hardware stores,lot of drug stores have them too.Wierd I know but Walgreens,etc. actually have some cool stuff,even for prepping.Just get a middle priced one.Mines a Rival Seal-A-Meal vacuum sealer.I like it.
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2ifbyC ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 30 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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I've purchased three vacuum sealers here: http://foodsaver.jardendirect.com/products.ad2?CatalogID=1085 . In fact I only paid for two. The third was a freebie special on a top line FoodSaver.
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I bookmarked that website 2ifbyc. I suppose any of these foodsavers will work with the jar sealer mentioned earlier?
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Does this jar sealer seem to use as much vacuum as the foodsaver? Using it on jars and reusing those jars with their check valves, wouldn't that be the cheapest way to vacuum seal food, without using a foodsealer?
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I'm making my own Hamburger Helper-style mixes, complete with noodles, and vacuum-sealing them. Rice-a-Roni-style flavored rice, too. Much cheaper and better-tasting than store-bought.
![]() I thought about vacuum-sealing cereal into bags, but the cereal would probably get crushed. Maybe I should get some jars for that. Mine has some kind of jar attachment, but I haven't used it. Our Walmart had some FoodSaver systems on clearance for $60 a couple of weeks ago. I had an older FreshSaver system, but it bit the dust. It was a little difficult to use (or perhaps I'm just uncoordinated - LOL!). It was a 2-piece unit, with a "sucker" and a separate "sealer". My new one is all one piece ... much easier. ![]() Campers and backpackers might find it handy to vacuum-seal their matches, lantern mantles, etc. to keep them from getting wet. Lots of uses for these gadgets! ![]() |
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Annika, the Hamburger Helper mixes sound like a great idea. Would you mind sharing the recipe? I went to Walmart yesterday and saw the Foodsaver so decided to buy it there and save the shipping and handling charges. I was excited, like a kid with a new toy. I opened it up and it was dirty! Scratched up. Someone had returned it and hadn't bothered to clean it up. Something about someone else's dirt (especially someone you don't know) that makes you feel like you've been exposed to all kinds of germs! Put it back in the box.....and washed my hands reallllly good.
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Eeeww about the used sealer! Seems like Walmart would've opened it and checked it before putting it back on the shelf.
Here's the link to the Hamburger Helper recipes. I used the first one to make the basic mix, then added about 1/3 cup of powdered cheddar cheese and two cups of egg noodles to make a "Cheeseburger"-type mix. I haven't tried any of the variations yet, but they sound really good. ![]() |
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2ifbyC ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 30 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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You are correct.
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Thanks annika. I'll check that website out. When I returned the Foodsaver, the sales person said it should never have been put back on the shelf...that if I wanted to get another one I could open it there in the store to make sure it was new. I told her that is what I would do.
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On purchasing a foodsaver -- look for one with a manual seal button (besides the automatic button). Sometimes the vac just keeps running and doesn't seal - not too often, but enough to need the manual override.
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nettie4263 ![]() Adviser Group ![]() Joined: March 27 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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I was incorrect when I started this thread and said I had a FoodSaver. (I was at work when I posted and it wasn't in front of me). I actually have a Rival Seal-A-Meal. I bought it at Wal-Mart. I REALLY like it. It wasn't expensive and it works very well.
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Ok. I have a FoodSaver and I love that thing. I love my American Harvest dehydrator, too. I am looking for those jars you can seal. I saw them as a set somewhere and you can reseal them. Know where I can find them?
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Sometimes the seals don't stay sealed. I started making two seals on them. Do you first seal, let the unit cool and them put a second seal. That way you have a backup. If using the bags that you cut to size yourself, put a double seal on both ends. Works great.
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I am looking for those jars you can seal. I saw them as a set somewhere and you can reseal them. Know where I can find them?
Farm and Fleet carries Food Savers and has jars right next to them which I think may be what you are referring to. Saw them on the shelf today at Farm & Fleet in Germantown, WI. Looking because you guys seemed to talk me into purchasing a Food Saver. Thanks. I haven't had anything like it before.
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I have been having trouble with my vacuum sealed rice unsealing while in storage. I am thinking the rice may be poking into the bag and making a hole any one else experince this?
So now I am trying putting the rice inside of a plastic bag and then in the vaccum bag,
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July, I had that problem as well,I've even had penne pasta pierce the bag too.May I suggest canning jars or something like a spaghettie sauce jar?
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[QUOTE=anon54]Hi netti4263!I have had a foodsaver for years now.The best way to preserve cereals is in jars.Any jars that have the pop up button.Just make sure when you open one of these jars is not to crimp the sides.I also suggest that you save jars such as pasta sauce etc.Sanatize them for later use.
Are you just storing in the pop top jars such as pasta jars or can you vacuum seal them as well?
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July, yes I use pasta jars and yes you can vacuum seal them as well. I either use the universal jar sealer, pump'seal or the food saver jar sealer.Sometimes I don't even bother to vacuum seal the jars, depends on how lazy I feel.lol Hope this helps. Take care |
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Sorry another question I have the food save jar sealer and it does not fit snug on the pop top jar like it does on the wide mouth canning jar so how do I seal the pop top jar.
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July, I'm sorry I misunderstood your question.I think a pump n' seal would work best.I do own one and have had it for years. I have no reservations in recommending it to you. It just may be a boon if we lose power when tshtf! I'd also like to suggest you check out the Foodsaver group at yahoo, they have great tips! Hope this helps.
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Ok...couple o' silly questions...
I am new to the whole vacuum sealing of food concept..;)
If I were to purchase a food sealer...which would you recommend?
How expensive are the bags?
Regarding the universal jar sealer (great concept by the way)....don't you have to cover the "punched hole" in the jar lid once you are through removing the oxygen? Isn't there a remaining hole in the top....or does it seal somehow?
Thanks for any info you can share~ JB
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