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 Hi Jo007athome, I would like to buy a couple of the hams you  bought.  Where didi you get them from?  Is there a website or phone number?  Where are you going to store your hams to keep the mice, rats, bugs and rocahes from getting them.  Thanks a lot.
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Hi Mississip Mama,
I got them at WWW.scotthams.com , I got the 13-15 lb for 41.50 and 12.00 shipping. I put it in a pillow case andI hung it from one of my shelving units. I doubt that pedts will bother it because of the salt content. Bugs and animals have the common sense that humans lack, most wont eat things that will kill them. The lady at scott hams was really helpful about giving me information. I asked about long terrm storage and refrigeration, a real country ham is cured with salt for several months and are pretty much non perishable. They may developr mold, this is natural and you would jist take a stiff brush and scrub it off, Jo 
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Over the last year we have dropped over $22.000. This includes food, generators, well, weapons, other security devices, backup to the backups, Final shopping will include about 10K more we figure.

I'm just $250,000 short for what I want to do though.
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About $1300, including generator, PPE, meds, batteries, water purifiers, food, fuel and dry goods. This is for two of us for 90 days. My husband is a proffessional chef, so it's not likely that I'd eat spam with any regularityThumbs Down, so it'll all go to the food bank if we end up safe and that's fine with me! I am happy with the amount that we have prepped and with our plans.
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  Hi sorry for taking so long to relpy.  Thanks for the information on the ham.  I think I will buy one.  Have you tried it yet?
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Mississip Mama,
I haven't cut these yet, but ate some thin sliced and fried at my sister's house around New year, she serves with red eye gravy (very salty, but oh so good) and mashed potatoes. Since they store practically indefinately, I probably won't use until I have real need. I pray that's not soon. Jo
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I have spent $16526 and have a pretty good set up for one year. How much value do you put on your life? 
 
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Our Wally World has Salt cured hams in the grocery.  They only had six of them and I saw someone packing every last one out about a week ago.  Price seemed pretty good.
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1000.00 on solar generator and panels ,  500.00 on food ,  100.00 on water in water bottles,. 100.00 on meds.  My food is basic  rice , can beans several types , can vegetables,   dry pasta,  pasta sause, can tuna , can ham ,  cooking oil,,  chezwiz ,  instant potatoes,  protein powder shakes ,  kraft dinner for my son ,  sugar, flour coffee,  pancake mix surup , yeast, can fruit.  jams  all types peanutbutter ,  powdered gateraid and koolaide and granola bars. 
 
My budget is to add 800.00 to food, on fruit and canned vegetables and cheese and meat.  200.00 on radios and 200.00 to paper products.  qnd 500.00 to water. and another on 500.00 on solar panels and 200.00 on seeds and small greenhouse for starting plants in . 
 
 
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Welcome Mayday, sounds like a fantastic start, I have started a great garden even though never previously having grown fruit or vegetables and I am suprising how liberating it feels to be able to be even slightly selfsufficient, we have spent around 500.00 so far on food and paper products and seeds, we intend to get a rain water tank and runoff tank and propane stove and extra gas bottles and way more food cheers
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we've spent around $3,000 prepping for about 4-6 months of isolation.  we've also been away from computers for several weeks and have to rely on CNN and the like for knowledge of outside world.  It's so easy to forget the urgency as BF is rarely mentioned but we are ready for any emergency including our BOB kits in each car and complete lists by the backdoor.
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Hi Jo, the talk of those hams really made my mouth water. So,I checked out Scottsham web site. They really sound delicious but then I read their History page and there they say that once you cut into them, then they need to be refrigerated. If this is right, then I suppose you could always use the double pot sand method to keep them cool.
Just thought you might like to know what I found.
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Originally posted by newprepper newprepper wrote:

Hi Jo, the talk of those hams really made my mouth water. So,I checked out Scottsham web site. They really sound delicious but then I read their History page and there they say that once you cut into them, then they need to be refrigerated. If this is right, then I suppose you could always use the double pot sand method to keep them cool.
Just thought you might like to know what I found.
 
Hi newprepper,
I also read that and emailed the company to ask, because I needed to know if refridgeration is necessary. It is not as long as it is a salt cured ham, Having said this, it will mold, which is not harmful, you just take a stiff bristle brush and scrub it off then rinse. I didn't save the email, but I did print it on another thread. Salt cured hams need to be soaked (changing the water at least twice) for 24 to 48 hours, which removes a good portion of the salt and then just don't salt whatever you add it to, in my case beans. I hope this helps, but you can always email them like I did and they are quick to answer your questions. Jo
 
Here is a link to another company I have used which states no refigeration needed. Jo
 
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Hi Jo,
I did as you suggested and emailed them about the ham. Below is what they answered in an email I got this morning. Thought you would want to know.
Hi Chris,

Once the ham is sliced, it must be refrigerated.  Prior to slicing, it
can be stored in a cool dry space as long as it is hung.  Please let
me know if you have additional questions and thank you for your
interest in our products!

Becca
Did you order one yet?
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Hi Newprepper,
Make sure you are getting the uncooked salt cured ham. The cooked ham does have to be refrigerated.
Yes, I ordered two and got two slabs of salt cured bacon as well. I knew about salt cured hams from my mother, they used to get them when she was young (she is 82) and is it is a true salt cured ham (processed 6-9 months) they do not need refrigeration.
 Just hang in a cool, dry place in a pillow case or breathable fabric, It may grow a coating of mold, this is natural and it should be scrubbed of with a stiff brush before the next cutting. It is basically shelf stable indefinately, but the recommend use within a year.
 The pioneers did not have refrigeration, their biggest job was to keep insects off the meat.(hence the pillow case) The salt is what preserves it, it is rubbed with salt and hung to dry in a curing house. This process takes a long time.(up to a year, depending on the brand)
 The genuine Smithfield hams are only processed in smithfield county from the long shank ham.The reason I emailed them for clarification was because it stated to refrigerate after cutting on some sites.  Jo
This is off of the web site below:
Cooking your country ham: Our Virginia hams are salt-cured, thus requiring no refrigeration. It is the nature of the Virginia cured hams to be salty even after soaking. In order to enjoy your Virginia country ham to the fullest, you will need to soak the ham in water for 24 to 48 hours, changing the water every 4-6 hours.
This will remove a lot of the salt, but the hams will still maintain a salty taste. And if you've never cooked a Virginia country ham before, there are instructions on the back of the cloth package.
 
This is also a great place to look, I actually got my hams here:
 
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Hi jo007athome, I still haven't ordered my hams yet,I have been watching the info you have posted to newprepper.  I will order mine this week.  How many people are you prepping for?  I think you said you ordered two. I'm not sure wether to order one or two.  I know they come in 2 sizes.  I am prepping for 2 people.  Any suggestions will be helpful.  Thanks
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Hi MM,
Glad you're back. I am prepping for my husband, self and 2 grown kids, 4 grandkids (theroretically, but we may have up to 6 more mouths to feed) to last a year. I am not sure as others are, that after the first wave, or even the second that the distribution system will be up and running to be able to re-supply and /or if it will be within our reach (may be very expensive for the smallest things) to obtain. In addition to the two salt cured hams, every time I am at the dollar store, I pick up a couple of cans of (small round) ham (6 oz) as well as a couple of the beef (12 oz) and chicken (10 oz) too.The ham is 1.00, beef is 1.50 and chicken is 2.00.
 
The salt cured hams should make about 40 4oz servings (taking into account for the weight of the bone) but you could use less if you were not counting on the protein, just the flavoring.
I ordered the 12 to 15 ln size on both of mine, just figure 2 lbs will be bone (which will make flavorful soup, but without the meat) and then you can divivde the poundage by the ounces you want per person to get your serving amounts. The hams will come in a mesh "sock", but you can put them in a pillowcase
to keep buggies off) and hang. Hope this helps, Jo
 
Here is the email I sent and the reply I recieved back:
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  jo007athome thanks for the welcome back home.  It's really good to be back.  I came back thur New Orleans and was on pins and needles that the hurricane would enter the gulf before I made it home Monday night.  I just ordered 1 ham tonight.  It is 16 to 18 pounds.  So far I plan to use it for flavoring food.  Should I keep the ham in the mesh and then put it in the pillow case?  If I put it in a closet in the house, will the house smell like ham?   Thanks for all of your information. 
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The ham will perfume any area you hang it in, my storeroom smells wonderful! I don't have mine in a pillowcase, do to where II'm storing it now. When I move I will put them in a pillowcase until I find out the varment population. It's to keep bugs off. Jo
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