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 Topic: Porta PottyPosted: June 04 2006 at 9:05pm |
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Since I live in the dessert and don't have the ability to store rain water (since we don't get any) for toilet flushing, I broke down and ordered one of the porta pottys on a camping website.
It's acutally kinda cool in that it closes like a brief case. It's called PETT (Portable environmental Toilet by Phillips) and weighs 7lb. It sets-up on 3 legs at normal toilet height and there is a cover that comes down over the seat which has a bag under it.
You go into the bag which has a chemical in it to cause liquid to gel. Then you take the bag out and put a new one in.
The whole thing was a bit pricey at $69 DISCOUNT (some places are selling it for $115 ouch!) but if you gotta go, you gotta go! I live in a city and we don't have outhouses or woods - so this is the next best thing.
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 4:55am |
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kr105,
Can you post the website? I haven't seen one like that yet. I got a plastic thingamajobby from Walmart a while back for about $25, but yours sounds better. Not to mention it might be nice to have more than one
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 4:59am |
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Hi Sand, If you'd like to look at it, here is the manufacturer's site: http://www.thepett.com/ |
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 5:11am |
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Very Cool! They are asking $116
 How did you get a discount?
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 9:15am |
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This is a topic I don't have any experience with, since I've never gone camping, however...
I think the commercial bag and gel combo is really expensive so wouldn't be practical for a family if the water was off more than a couple of days. Don't forget that bag has to be replaced after each use.
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I vaguely recall reading a tip somewhere last year about using a regular toilet in an emergency no-water situation. All water would have to be drained from the toilet bowl so the area is dry. Then it would just be a matter of placing an open plastic bag in the toilet with the top edges of the bag folded over around the top rim. Then the toilet seat would come down over that. I guess you'd have to be careful that the top edges of the plastic bag don't slip into the toilet.
I'm not sure how sturdy the plastic bag would have to be and whether you could add chemicals to make the liquid contents gel. I have wondered if sawdust could be sprinkled in the bag instead so the bag wouldn't have to be discarded after each use.
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 9:42am |
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Ah yes, 'HIS' & 'HERS'!
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 10:45am |
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Well .... I guess we have plenty of time to try it out, before it's really needed!
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:20pm |
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My girls have already put in a request for one for the guys
 and one for the gals. |
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 4:25pm |
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Yes, AND one for the kids! Five year old boys aren't the best shots
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 4:43pm |
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What do you do with the filled bags?
OJ
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Scout motto - "Be Prepared"
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2ifbyC
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 5:07pm |
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Mail 'em to Congress?
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 5:42pm |
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Hi 2ifbyC,
I like your suggestion! Yes the bags seem pricey, but in researching this, I found a site where people who own it, rate it. The suggestion there was "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, New Bag Down". The setup is a bag in a bag which controls the odors. On their web site, they say to put it in the trash can, but I'm going to be ready to bury it in the back if it comes to that.
As to how to find it discount, I google'd it and started to check prices. (Which is how I usually bargain shop.) This one came from Amazon.com
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 2:11pm |
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I once had to use a make shift potty for 3 months.Back then they didn't have plastic 5 gal buckets,but thats what I'm using they have toilet seats to fit these buckets.Bass pro has bucket and lid for around 25. but can get the seat for 10. use 2 plastic bags (tall trash can size 13 gal) secure with large rubber band,elastic,the elastic off mens underware works good,put lid on,put a sheet of newspaper on bottom,then add arm and hammer cat litter,next time add a sheet of paper then cat litter,etc.may have to change more often if its poo.If this is too low you can always use a chair cut a hole and but a toilet seat on it and bucket under as above noted.Build a box,use a bench lots of way to make your own,if you need to you can use any size bucket that works .you can buy 5 gal bucket at walmart in paint department and alot of bakery depts have them used cheap.Good luck..
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 5:38pm |
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See links below for pictures and more details.
 Pooh Powder, obtainable from the manufacturer, allows you to get many more uses from a wag bag. Just toss a little extra powder into the wag bag after using it. I haven't done a test to see how long a person can use one wag bag, but contests might be in order. 
 PETT Portable Dry Toilet by Phillips Environmental
The PETT (Portable Environmental Toilet) is a real breakthrough in emergency portable toilets. Why? Because it is environmentally friendly, simple to use, folds to briefcase size but opens up to the same height and size as a standard toilet, and requires none of the messy emptying or clean out of a chemical toilet. Here are some of PETT's unique features: Made in the USA, no assembly required, sets up in seconds Utilizes WAG BAG degradable waste bags with Pooh Powder waste treatment that gels waste, neutralizes odor, and starts the decay process...system is spill proof, hygienic, and sanitary Waste can be thrown in any normal garbage receptacle Same height and size as a standard toilet Folds into briefcase size (19" x 14" x 5") Stable 3-leg design, weighs only 7 pounds The PETT's durable design of high impact UV stabilized thermoplastic exceeds US military requirements and is currently deployed in field operations throughout the world. Comes with 3 WAG BAG (Waste Alleviation & Gelling) waste kits, each containing an outer zip-close disposal bag, a waste bag preloaded with Pooh Powder waste treatment, toilet paper, and a hand sanitizer. (Note: Because of the excess weight of this item, there will be an additional shipping charge of $2.50 at checkout, and upgraded shipping is not available.) Retail Value: $95.95 HE-USA Price: $83.50 http://www.homeemergencyusa.com/PETT-Portable-Dry-Toilet_6_82_detail.html ======== The WagBag: Toilet in a Bag
50 or 100 Waste Kits From Phillips Environmental comes the world famous WagBag, Toilet in a Bag, comes this easy to use double-bag system that can be used with the PETT toilet, with any other toilet, a bucket, or simply laying it on the ground. Each waste bag has non-toxic powder that gels liquid, catalyzes decay and neutralizes odor. There are two bags, one funnel bag w/ powder to contain the waste, and a heavy gauge zip lock bag (12"x10") to secure and transport waste. They are approved for disposal w/ normal trash, as group II non-hazardous waste, biodegradeable and approved for landfill. The bags will work in any marine, R.V. or household toilet. Each kit comes with toilet paper and hand sanitizer. Whether you own/ plan to buy a PETT portable dry toilet or toilet system, or whether you simply want to prepare for emergencies at home, on the road, or in the field, the WagBag is indispensable. (Note: Because of the excess weight of this item, there will be an additional shipping charge of $5.00 at checkout, and upgraded shipping is not available.) WagBag 50 Waste Kits: Retail Value: $148.95 HE-USA Price: $101.50 Wag Bag 100 Waste Kits: Retail Value: $272.95 HE-USA Price: $185.50 http://www.homeemergencyusa.com/The-WagBag%3A-Toilet-in-a-Bag-%3Cbr%3E50-or-100-Waste-Kits_6_157_detail.html ===========  Portable Dry Toilet System by Phillips Environmental
Used by the National Forest Service, National Park Service, FBI, FEMA, United Nations, and our Armed Forces throughout the world, this environmentally friendly waste disposal system is extraordinary. Its many uses include emergency and disaster planning for corporations, public agencies, office buildings, construction sites, fire and police stations, even individual homes in times of emergency. The System, providing a sanitary and odorless method of disposing of liquid and solid waste, consists of: PETT (Portable Environmental Toilet) - unique three-legged, portable toilet that folds to briefcase size (19" x 14" x 5"), yet is the same height as a standard toilet and weighs only 7 pounds WAG Bag (Waste Alleviation & Gelling) - 15 special degradable, puncture resistant, landfill approved bags that contain a powder that gels liquids, catalyzes decay, and removes odor. Includes toilet paper, antiseptic wipe, and a zip close disposal bag that can then be placed in ordinary trash. PUP (Portable Utility Pop-Up Tent) - floorless, 6'6" x 4' x 4' privacy tent, 3 interior windows with screens, velcro flap in the ceiling to accommodate an outdoor showerhead (not included), zip close door. No assembly necessary, sets up in seconds, hinged reinforced fiberglass poles and connectors attached. Ground secure flaps on 3 sides. Includes carrying case. Weighs only 6 pounds TOTE Backpack - Carries the entire PETT Dry Toilet System. Made with sturdy black fabric and heavy duty zippers, padded straps. 25" x 15" x 6". Separate storage area for unused bags, expandable compartment to pack out used WAG bag waste kits. The complete System, made in the USA, weighs only 19 pounds and is fully portable. Additional supplies are available directly from the manufacturer. What else can we say? This is an amazing product at an amazing price. (Note: Because of the excess weight of this item, there will be an additional shipping charge of $6.00 at checkout, and upgraded shipping is not available.) Retail Value: $289.95 HE-USA Price: $239.95 http://www.homeemergencyusa.com/Portable-Dry-Toilet-System%3Cbr%3E_6_83_detail.html ============ We can help. Rocky |
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 5:47pm |
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Rocky,
Thanks for the great sources!
K.
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 11:26am |
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Rocky, I've looked at this toilet and have a question for you. Just how stable is it since it has only three legs? I'm thinking if a very sick person is using this, will they tip over?? TIA
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 1:35pm |
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I am wondering about toilet options. Can't we just dig a deep hole in our yard for a makeshift "outhouse"? I read on another thread that we're not supposed to do this, because it could contaminate groundwater. But our ancestors used outhouses. And when we do backcountry camping, we dig a small hole for the #2, or there are out-holes provided at campsites.
The only problem I can think of is that we can't dig a hole very easily in the winter, as the ground will be frozen.
We live in the suburbs, by the way.
Thoughts?
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 2:20pm |
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Green, Go ahead and dig a hole if need be. We are talking a
disaster here and survival . I would make a plan to dig a big enough
hole for a long use not each use. We plan on building a full
outhouse here on skids so easy to move. As its rock 3 ft down we
will have to move it on occasion. Just buy a few bags of lime to
use in it. That would be a lot better than bags of waste piling
up with no trash pickup. Unless you live in an apartment a porta
potty will be nothing but trouble. Imagine the summertime in the
city with piles of porta-potty bags piling up!
There has to be a better way. Liquids can go down a drain. A bag of gel will be hard to dispose of. I would think a Little Johnie and a Lady Johnie would be more practical. An external cath with a hose down your pants leg for privacy? In Taiwan where central sewers are not practical because of earthquakes everyting is gathered and cooked down to dried fertilizer. Of course in a high rise just drill a hole through your floor. Hi 2if- where You been? |
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Posted: July 15 2006 at 4:09pm |
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 10:51pm |
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Simple and cheap: http://tinyurl.com/z69gk Nice, clean, portable, flushable, and affordable: http://tinyurl.com/hlyn7 I'm going to make one of the first and we have one of the second at the cabin in the mountains for use by the wife who doesn't want to go to the outhouse in the middle of the night. we've had that one for 10+ years. It looks just like the one referenced but ours is green. Very easy (and clean) to dump. |
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 10:27am |
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This may be a bit off topic, but I am planning to set up my kids 1000 gallon pool in my garage as soon as I deem it necessary. This will give me plenty of potty water for flushing, and it will be out of sight to every one around me.
The pool was 49.00 at a local big box store. Its the type where you inflate a blue ring that is at the top of the sides and as the pool fills the ring rises. It seems a pretty cheap way to tuck away some serious (non drinking) waters. |
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 8:46pm |
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These pools do indeed hold a large ammount of water..It is the one we have been using this summer,. Came with a filter too..We had to take it down twice at first in order to get it stable since it collapsed both times while on a small slant. Be sure that your base is very level and there should not be a problem.. Good Luck |
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Posted: July 20 2006 at 7:58am |
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Everyone over to Mary's house to go skinny dippin!!!
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