Attention People with a medical backround

Anyone on here with a medical backround we need you. Someone on the family preps wrote that the drug used for allergies also helped to open the lungs for people to breathe. I tried it and it worked .Since physicians are not prescribing extra meds according to our posts. We need someone to tell us, other possible uses of otc meds. I recall years ago, when benadryl and allergy med was still prescription only, that my physician prescribed it for me as a mild sleep inducer. People will have a hard time sleeping and they may want to get a bit of that. Are their medications otc, that can help with breathing problems, anxiety, or any other malady you can think of. I also know that dramamine for motion sickness induces sleep. I know that you can double ibuprophin meds to get a prescription strength. Lets face it, we need to stock up and prep now. Dr.s are going to be too busy to mess with this stuff if this hits. If there is legal problems, change your SN and post under a different one. But Please Help us.  I know that everyone should check and see what is the under the counter drugs are that are legal in your state, that is something that pharmacies and DR.s dont advertise, in NC and Ill you can condiene cough meds with a signature. Let us know if otc inhalers work, that type of thing. Please medical folks help us out. All the food and water in the world is not going to help if people cant control common condidions because they cant get meds. Are there any meds out there that can lower blood pressure? Send us to websites whatever you can do will be appreciated. Our own docs are blowing this off and we need help.

I doubt it will help with bird flu, but it's worth noting for asthmatics -- COFFEE works well for some people to ease mild bronchiospasm. I'm a moderate to severe asthmatic & I started drinking coffee after I discovered this. I started out pinching my nose when I drank it -- at least until I discovered the wonders of hersheys syrup and a shot of real cream.

    PS...Osha root can be found relatively cheaply on ebay.

Follow these suggestions at your own risk....

 

meclizine (the active ingredient in non drowsy formula of dramamine) sleep aid, it makes you just drowsy enough to fall asleep without the "hungover" feeling of benadryl the next day.

 

The best OTC remedy I would suggest for High Blood Pressure is to LOSE weight!

 

Did I read your post correctly above about using neosporin for "pink eye"?  Not so sure I would try that........unless it was really bad and it was neosporin or nothing.

 

Epsom salts is good for sprains, strains and to help skin abcesses rupture and drain. 

 

When self diagnosing and treating PLEASE use commonsense.  I will just list some examples of what happened to people who did not.

 

A teenage girl who got pregnant heard herb XXXXXXXX would give her an abortion.  She went to a health food store and purchased a bottle of concentrated oil and ingested the whole bottle.  She aborted and then bled to death the amount of the active ingredient in the herb oil was the same as consuming a truckload of the herb.  Hospital staff was unable to keep her from bleeding out.

 

Heat can make the pain from an earache feel better so a couple decided to leave a hair dryer running in the crib all night long next to their baby's ear.  The baby was dead in the morning because it raised the baby's brain temperature to a lethal level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    I totaly agree with using your head! As far as the Osha rt goes though? I'll take that over tamiflu anyday. 2 local docs here told me that they did read ups on the osha root findings and it was unbelievable they said. Something growing benieth our feets. But isn't that just like Mother Nature to not only give us BF...but something as fantastic as Osha root? ;)

Hello. When my daughter had a fever the doctor told me to alternate the two, ibuprofen & tylonel. He said to use the tylonel every four hours, but if that didn't keep the fever down for the full 4 hours to give the ibuprofen in between. So tylonel...2 hours later ibuprofen...2 hours later tylonel...and so on. But only if necessary to control the fever. BUT I'm not a doctor so you'd need to check with your own doctor.

I have been told many times by a couple of doctors over the years, especially when higher fevers involved, to take tylenol and ibuprofen...one or the other every 2-4 hours. hmmm Hope I didn't get bad information.

ShaRenKa wrote:     Linda, this was suggested by a doctor who was speaking on the BF...how to treat the ill at home. I got the read up here... I'll see if I can retrieve it.

nadia007 wrote: I have been told many times by a couple of doctors over the years, especially when higher fevers involved, to take tylenol and ibuprofen...one or the other every 2-4 hours. hmmm Hope I didn't get bad information.

I agree on the tylenol issue.  I have not taken one in about 8 yrs. I use aspirin for myself and I used ibuprofen for my 2 kids when needed they are old enough for aspirin now.  BTW, in certain people ibuprofen can cause rebound headaches another good reason to get that $1 bottle of aspirin from the dollar store.  If you are going to have any type of surgical procedure done though you should completely stop the aspirin unless your physician recommends you continue it.

Choe-good point....aspirin is a blood thinner.

    Linda, it's on pg 24 of the PDF...he states..."Fever, body aches, chills, sore throat and headache: Ibuprofen and/or acetaminophen are used to lower fever and help the patient feel better. The above symptoms respond well to these drugs. Use these products for above symptoms of flu according to my instructions, not the bottle label. Don't under dose the patient. Many people take doses that are ineffective for fear of taking too much. Remember that acetaminophen can be used at the same time and in full doses as ibuprophen because they are in diffrent drug classes and have diffrent drug side affects. Combination treatment with both has an additive effect of benefit without increasing risk. The dose of ibuprophen I recommend you to use is 2 to 4 tablets (400 mg to 800 mg) every 4 hours. For acetaminophen, the dose is 2 500 mg tablets 4 times daily. Do not exceed these does for either drug. This is maxiumum for both. Too high a fever can cause seizures/brain damage. Try to keep a little fever, as this helps fight off the flu...but not over 101.

OKAY...I just called my neighborhood Pharmacist (Rite-Aid). Here is what he said...Advil, Motrin & Ibuprofen are all the same chemical. He also said they are more effective at controlling fevers.

Then there is Tylonel, who's active chemical is acetaminophen. You can also get generic brands.

He said ONLY IF NECESSARY to control fever to alternate every two hours. Advil/Motrin/Ibuprofen....then two hours later Tylonel/Acetaminophen....two hours later Advil/Motrin/Ibuprofen...and so on.

When dosing children be careful of the milligram (mg) strength because the liquid, chewables, infant drops, etc. are all different.

Okay to give Tylonel/Acetaminophen every 4 hours, but not more then 5 doses in 24 hours.

I don't know the exacts for the ibuprofen/advil/motrin.
   

I use a puffer for colds and use them to dry out the lungs when I have a cold to avoid going on antibiotics it worked the last two times

I use a nasel rinse for colds it works but I dont know about for the flu.
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Is this what you meant by a medication to help with the avain flu. Some antihistimines also dry out the nasel passages. What about decongestants. will they bne helpful .
I know coffee helps the lungs open up for breathing and sometime used when there is nothing else to help.

What drugs could we take when there is no medical support.

I know they used cortizone to help with Sars but they needed such high doses that It caused long term health problems   Asperian / advil like drugs would have the same effect in reducing imflamation .

could we have imformation on how they treated Sars . I read some imformation and I think it would be relevant imformation

Could we have a doctor answer these questions .

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 I posted a couple of days ago about an article that was in the Scientific American mag. It was on fighting cytokine storm with of all things, nicotine. It turns out that it is a powerful anti-inflammetory, specific in the downregulation of the cytokine storm effect. I have thought to myself that in a worst case scenario, that I would use nicoderm patches to try to save the life of my pregnant daughter, if (God forbid) it came to that.
  I am going out and buying the patches that are the "middle" step in milligram doseage, and will just have them on hand "in case". I don't smoke, and the only other way that I can justify the cost, is that in a pandemic situation, the smokers will pay dearly for them, if I don't need them.

    VSTR...look up the properties on the web for Osha root. I'm betting on it;)

vstr,
concerning my own experience with high blood pressure, my doctor asked me to restrict salt intake. No extra salt from the shaker , no boxed, canned, processed foods, said to eat everything as close to it's natural state as you can. Some people are salt sensitive . He also said to restrict red meat to once a week if at all. In my experience this worked. I check the sodium content on everything and I also take 1 baby aspirin every day in the AM.
I also have read that a 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon will help level off your blood sugar level. You can also add this to a food you will be eating.
I have some books by Dr. Andrew Weil, in one he tells that in China they recommend 4 stalks of celery a day day to start to try to control blood pressure that is a little high before they go to any medicine.
I am not a doctor but this is what I have experienced myself. If you feel your doctor is blowing you off I'd go see a new one. My doctor says the first thing a doctor should do is LISTEN to what his patient has to say.
Abbie

I spent two weeks in intensive care last year on a respirator... long story. 

I have heard that celery might help drop blood pressure but I would advocate eating celery as part of your weight loss measure.

ShaRenKa wrote:   But also a Natural root called Osha Root. It has been used by the Native Americans for ever for bronchitis and pneumonia. It has kick ass properties that our scientists are just now beginning to descover. It builds up the white blood cells in the lungs, making them stronger to help fight. What I do is take 1 lb of the root, add it to 1 qt of cold water...let this simmer on stove about one hour. After, strain root water thru cheese cloth ect..into another well cleansed bowl ect. Add to this root water as much Honey as you need for taste. Bottle and cap, refridgerate. When needed take 1 tbs as needed (aprox avery 2 hrs). I'd bump the amount up to 2 tbs if very ill. Very important! Make sure ALL vessels are well cleaned, boiled, or rinsed out with bleach,and water before filling.