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ImmuneConcerned
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Two recent purchases for for small, portable, easy to use ($100 - $150) water purifing products which I recently purchased on the net are:
MIOX PURIFIER Works by "creating brine out of untreaated fresh water & salt, then passing a small electrical charge through the solution, which resultss in a powerful dosse of mixed oxidants (MIOX). This 'cocktail' is poured into untreated water, inactivating all viruses, bacterial,glardia, cryptosporidum (which even iodine doesn't kill), and leaving you with safe purified water." All required that is required to use what seems to be this indestructable device salt in any form, water & sunshine. The marines use it so I thought it would be good to have on hand in case we need to end up using lake water . . . .
SteriPen which "uses short wave germicidal UV light to disinfect waater . . . destroy the DNA within bacterial, viruses . . . ." This seemed like a good way to make sure questionable (yet relatively clear) water is free of viruses. It uses baateries & the UV tube (which is suppose to last a while.)
Kr105 from this forum says there is a cheeper way to obtain something like a steripen. He says: The SteriPen is a great idea but way overpriced! I purchased a flourescent light from Walmart $15 then went to TopBulb.com and purchased the germicidal bulb to go in it $20. I now have a large uv/germicidal lamp that I turn on once a week for 30 mins in my water storage area. Make sure you purchase the right size bulb for the lamp (both pin size and length.) By the way, this only works if your containers are regular water bottles and the light can get thru to the water."
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Well everybody,I ifinally got my manual well installed Sat. I went out today to test the well, had to wait a couple of days for the conrete slab to dry arounf it. Guess what I need to take weight lifting classes, no kidding. We will be in serious trouble if I don't develop the strength to pump this thing if my husband gets sick. So off to the gym I go. I'm hope it gets easier as it gets broken in. Still glad to have it. At least it looks good. I like the color it hunter green.
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Don't forget to fill the washing machine. Check bath tub drain plugs now to be sure the seal will hold water long term. |
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If you lose power for more than five days the water sanitation is down. They go hand in hand , it might only be three days before the water is no longer safe to drink. What I expect is that it could be staggered power outages and delays in repairs lines. |
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I have my preps in the basement and run a dehumidifier near the prep shelves. Every day I empty out 1-2 gallons from the holding tank of the dehumidifier. Now the electricity would have to be on for this to work but I was thinking that a dehumidifier might be a good source for water.
Problem is I don't know if the water from the dehumidifier would be pure. |
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I have 6/55 gallon drums
70/1 gallon bottles of water
20/1 gallon bottles for cleaning
10/24 pks small bottles
20x4 ft. pool
2/55 gallon drums cut for rain water
NEVER enough water................
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PLEASE check with your water company...most only keep a 5 day supply of chemicals for water treatment. Sick truck drivers....no chemicals....... equals unsafe water
Someone mentioned adding bleach to water storages???? If you water is already treated you do not need to do this.
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I believe water from a dehumidifer is pure/distilled. Don't quote me on that, but that's what I seem to remember hearing.
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I am a biologist studying (amongst other things) the avian bird flu. There is an excellent video on my website for the forum readers pertaining to safety, handling and the virus itself. This is solid basic information all families should be aware of before the Avian Virus comes to America. And yes, I mean WHEN it comes.
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I'm going to increase water storage some, but I also live near a river, and could decontaminate that. Then there is rainwater; perhaps I'll get a barrel with filtration unit to fill off the drain pipes. Some might want to make solar water collectors. You could dig a hole, cover with a clear plastic sheet weighted in the center with a rock, water condensing would drip into a collecting vessel in the hole. Cumbersome and slow but would not run out (sorry if you are in a desert area).
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Pakistani water war ends after 14 killed
20 Jun 2006 11:45:12 GMT
Source: Reuters < = ="/bin/js/article.js"> < id=CurrentSize = value=13 name=CurrentSize> (Updates death toll, clashes over)
PARACHINAR, Pakistan, June 20 (Reuters) - Bloody clashes between rival Pakistani villagers over scarce water supplies ended on Tuesday when troops were sent to restore order in the region on the Afghan border after 14 people were killed.
Pakistan faces a serious water shortage this year after light rain and snow over the winter. Water rights are a divisive issue in many parts of the country but the clashes in the Kurrum region were the most serious this year over the resource.
Violence erupted on Monday when people of one clan tried to divert water from an irrigation canal to their fields and men from another clan resisted.
The rivals battled with rifles, mortars and rocket-propelled grenades, said the region's administrator, Mohammad Salim Khan.
The government said 14 people had been killed and 35 wounded. A military official who declined to be identified said 22 people had been killed.
"There's a lull now and the tribesmen have started withdrawing from their positions on the mountains," Khan told Reuters.
The ethnic Pashtun communities that lie on both sides of the Pakistani-Afghan border have been traditionally well-armed.
Pakistan has about one fifth less water this year than normal, said an official at the Indus River System Authority, and several crops including rice have been hit hard.
But shortages are only expected to get worse as populations and demand grow. Analysts say water disputes will become more common, not only within communities but between countries.
Pakistan is already in dispute with India over rivers that begin in Indian mountains and flow into Pakistan, and is nervous about possible Afghan plans to dam rivers that flow into Pakistan.
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Has anyone ordered calcium hypoch. online, is this a chemical that can legally be shipped? Sorry if this is a stupid question..
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We have the old fashion spring feed well with a hand pump. My concerns are that the surface water that sometimes runs into the well when we have a big "toad stranger" rain will bring in the virus. So I plan to boil the water to be sure we are not consuming anything bad. Springs are all over our farm so we are very blessed with water. We also have one pond and a lake to get water from if needed. |
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We have a well, but it went dry for a year afew years back during a draught. So, I will not count on it. I have acumulated 16 of 55 gallon food grade barrels and ordered 2 of 35 gallon barrels. We don't live too far from a river (YUK) so in a pinch, we could get water there. I have dry shock put away for later use, when bleach has expired.
Edited to add that I purchased a kids pool 10' x 16" on clearance for $7.00 to put out for rain water to wash clothing and what not also.
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Not a stupid question! I bought mine at the local spa dealer. It can probably only be shipped via UPS ground. Red |
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If all is not lost, where is it?
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we're on community water tank--22,000 gallons that supplies about 30 users. Also have a 1,500 gallon holding tank on our property. Our holding tank works on gravity, so we are set.
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That's 733 gallons per person. Do your neighbors have a good concept of water conservation? Is the tank always full? |
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If all is not lost, where is it?
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hoosiermom,
I had to go to a pool store, the spa people just laughed at me " we don't sell that because it doesn't go in spas. If it is a spa & pool supply, they may have it. I bought two 1 lb packages. I hope it's the right stuff as it says 65% calcium hypochlorite and 35% other. It doesnt say algeacides tho.
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You're 'good to go'!
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Ok so if the calcium hypo = 65% or higher and other ingred.=35% or greater ( obviously = 100%) and it does not say anything else about algecides that is what we need to make up the liquid mix to treat h2o with ? I have looked at the label and wasnt sure... What do you think the "other ingred" are-maybe stabilizers or something? Thanks all sorry I wanted this spelled out to me.
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2ifbyC
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The 35% is inert.
You first make a stock clorine solution. Then you use the SCS to disinfect your drinking water.
"Granular Calcium Hypochlorite. Add and dissolve one heaping teaspoon of high-test granular calcium hypochlorite (approximately 1/4 ounce) for each two gallons of water. The mixture will produce a stock chlorine solution of approximately 500 mg/L, since the calcium hypochlorite has an available chlorine equal to ~70 percent of its weight. To disinfect water, add the stock chlorine solution in the ratio of one part of chlorine solution to each 100 parts of water to be treated. This is roughly equal to adding 1 pint (16 oz.) of stock chlorine to each 12.5 gallons of water to be disinfected." |
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So, if my math isn't too bad, about 1 1/4 gal of scs to 55 gallons water to make potable?
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1 scs to 100 water
55 gal water / 100 = .55 gal scs
So a heaping tablespoon of calcium hypoclorite will make two gallons of scs which will treat almost 400 gallons of water! That's why I bought only 10 pounds of CH.
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