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Dicpunch
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redcloud
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Would you mind if I PM'ed you with some weapons questions?
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redcloud
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By the way, you asked about water test kits. Try here:
http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=689&itemType=PRODUCT&iProductID=689 There is also a UV water purifier that seems more robust than the Steripen, as well as lots of other water related stuff. Red |
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Dicpunch
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I am not a weapon specialist in the least bit, I work with JAG but I would be glad to help with anything that I could.
I'll check out the test strip site as well, thanks.
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redcloud
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Sorry. Didn't mean to presume.
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Dicpunch
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No reason to apologise. What was your question? I might be able to help and if not it might be something that I need to know as well.
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redcloud
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This is way off topic, but, well, I'm looking to add a larger caliber rifle (something in .243, I think) for defense, and hunting if the food runs out. I've been looking a the Weatherby Vanguard series, as it doesn't look so military. But on the other hand, there is the KelTec Sub16A that might be tougher and easier to use, which fires a 5.56 NATO bullet (or .223 Win).
I don't know. I feel the need for some form of aggressive self-defense, in light of the possible breakdown of social order in a pandemic. I grew up hunting dove and quail, and have two shotguns from that teenage pursuit. Also, there is the .22, which is great, but doesn't pack much punch. I feel the need for something more formidable, if for no other reason than to whizz a couple of heavy shots over the heads of possible intruders. I thought that guns were completely out of my life, after my early experiences with bird hunting, and shooting an M1 Garand in military school. Now there seems to be a need again. |
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RedCloud ... there is a 'protection/self defense' thread in this area ... there's a HUGE discussion/suggesions, if you check it out. -k
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Dicpunch
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I had a similar question and a person named 'loosecannon' was able to help out a lot. It was posted in the 'Are you packing heat with your preps' (without looking it up i believe that is the title) thread.
I think I am going to look at a shotgun as my primary and then a rifle as my secondary weapons. If there is a breakdown of society, and it's every man for himself, I think a CQ weapon would be the best choice. I don't think I am going to have the opp to shoot at the bad guys at great distances. Check that thread, the last couple of pages at least, he gives some good ideas and hints on what are some good choices to make.
I pray it doesn't come to this but it is better to be safte than sorry.
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redcloud
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Sorry for the hijacking of this thread folks. You'd think I know better by now.
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I have a question about garden hoses.I have read that they pose a lead hazard.I've been told to buy RV water hoses.If I opt for RV water hoses csn some one recommend a type and brand to me?Thanks in advance!
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2ifbyC
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Water that has sat in a garden hose can taste bad and may have some chemicals that has leeched from the hose material. I don't think it's lead but some of the manufacturing chemicals. If you purge the 'sitting water' you should be OK.
Taste the water. If it has an off taste, flush the hose some more. Once you've purged the hose the water will taste and be OK.
RV water hose is expen$ive. But if you're setting up a permanent system then that's the way to go.
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I bought a couple of kiddie pools that hold about 100 gallons each to use for water storage. I know the chemicals in the pools and garden hose used for filling aren't ideal. But this is a cheap solution. I'll cover them with tarps.
What would be a good, yet inexpensive, filter to use to filter out the contaminants from this non-food grade container?
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Thank you 2ifbyC, gave me some option.One other questions are RV hoses the same as garden hoses?Fittings and so forth? OR do I need an adaptor for my outdoor or indoor faucet?Thanks again!Have a great weekend.
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Nettie, I went with this one because it seemed so simple even I could use it: http://www.pwgazette.com/gravity.htm I bought "Style C." This does NOT kill virus, however. You still need to bleach the water for that. Hope this helps. Red |
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The fittings on my RV hose are the same as my garden hose. It should fit your outdoor faucet as is. I'm not sure if your indoor faucet has the same threading as an outdoor faucet. If so, you should be good. Otherwise you probably need an adapter for the indoor faucet to make it work with any hose.
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Thank you Bumpman,for clearing up that mystery.Its' really appreciated
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I've been washing out and saving all my empty one gallon plastic milk jugs.... and with 4 kids I end up with about two a week. After theyve dried out I put the tops on and string them together and put them in the attic over the garage. When I feel it's time I'll simply fill them all up. Cost is exactly zero. Also, in my neighborhood folks put out those recycle bins with milk jugs in them. I could get 100 in about an hour..... again free. For storing large quantities I have two inflatable swimming pools that I can put on the slab of my covered/screened patio and route my downspout into.... one for bathing/flushing (the first filled and therefore has more crap from the roof in it) and the other for drinking/cooking. Both purified with chlorine. Those pools are really cheap and hold a lot of water and they are very small to store (I couldn't figure out where to store a bunch of 55 gal drums!) If money is tight..... buy food... save the perrier water for the rich folks.... they need something to spend their money on.
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Be aware that plastic milk jugs are not air impermeable. That's why you can't store photo chemicals in them.
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I was told it is better to get the filtered/treated water. I get a few extra 5 gallon bottles (to store) everytime my Sparklets guy comes. I have about 150 gallons so far. He told me the Spring Water is fresh & untreated and will expire quicker than the filtered/treated water. However he did say the spring water will last about one year. He said the biggest problem with the spring water over time is bacteria. It seems that could be easily purified with bleach? I haven't verified any of this...just what my cutie water guy told me. This is also why I get Dasani water, it is one of the few that is filtered & treated. Or distilled water.
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I think so. In California they have the aqua ducts (concrete rivers) that are completely open and exposed. I don't know what other states have this system? Anyone else know?
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BasketCaseDiva
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Should we store our 55 gallon drums of water on pallets? What's the best way to keep it? Any ideas are greatly appreciated. |
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i have a question. i have bought 3, 55 gallon food grade water drums and i was planning on puttin g them in my backyard,,up against the house. problem is i now have read that with winter,,the water in the drums can freeze, expand and burst the drums.
does anyone know about this?
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Mine are made of food grade plastic and are on my concrete garage floor.
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We didn't really think it would matter, but I was wondering if just putting it on the garage floor (that's where we're storing it also) if there could be a possibility of the plastic in the drum absorbing anything from the concrete floor. I have cleaned the floor, etc... Maybe I'm being to paranoid, I don't know but just wanted to ask what others may be doing. Thanks |
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Those drums are an inert barrier to most anything they may be sitting on.
I have mine fully flat on the slab in my basement, as 55 gallons of water weighs 440 pounds, and placing full drums on anything not hard and flat will eventually distort the plastic. |
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Well, I've read that you shouldn't store directly on the concrete due to other things leaching right through the plasitc....then I've read it's ok to store them directly on the concrete.....getting more and more confused.....any solid ideas?
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You could put a plastic barrier between the drum and the floor, or something else inert. Plywood maybe?
The thing I'm most concerned about is stability and failure resistance. Anything that is not flat and hard is going to put stress on parts of the barrel. There was another thread here, or perhaps on fluwikie in which was described how someone had used those big plastic garbage cans on two wheels for storage, and one had failed entirely, and another was leaking. This after only a few weeks of holding a full load. Purpose-built water drums are going to be more robust, but I still would not place them on an uneven or pliable surface. That kind of narrows the choices to concrete, and what? Red |
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BasketCaseDiva
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Thank you! Ok one more question.....how full should the barrels be filled? Have read all the way to the top and others have said leave about an inch of space
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I've read 95% full, to leave space to add and stir bleach into the water, but I don't think it's critical. It might help to know how many gallons are in the barrel so you would know how much bleach to add. But then you could always remove drinking water from the barrel a gallon at a time, and treat it then.
Ask all the questions you want, Diva. Everyone is here to help. Red |
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I think I came up with a really good storage idea. Ziploc makes "big bags" that I found at Target the other day. I picked up several boxes of the XL size that store 10 gallons. I plan to fill them with water and store them upright in rubbermaid tubs, in case they leak.
They also make an XXL, but I thought that would be too large to deal with.
So If I filled 5 of these bags, stored upright in a 40 gallon tub, I'd have 40-50 gallons of water for about $15.
(Let me know if you think this won't work...)
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Nettie great idea ...a trip to Target for me!
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FYI the big Glad storage bags ARE FOOD GRADE, I callled the company a couple months ago. They said as long as they are not used in the microwave- that's one big microwave I thought !
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Ten gallons are 83.4526411 pounds! You may want to only half fill them for easy moving.
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You said Glad...did you mean Ziploc? Because when I called the gal seemed baffled by the question, but she did say you could baste a turkey in them, so I took that as a yes.
Just wondering if Glad makes them also.
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I apologize maybe it is Ziplock, I have been out of them a couple weeks, i will check when I get home, but I think you are correct , sorry.
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Who can we buy a siphon pump from? I've looked at a few companies, but want to make sure they are on the up and up, any suggestions?
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I bought a couple of these: http://www.bascousa.com/store/item.aspx?DEPARTMENT_ID=119&ITEM_ID=165 Great company to work with. I have bought water barrels and food storage buckets from them as well. Hope this helps. Red |
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Thanks Redcloud! Appreciate it, we have looked at that company.
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I live in Florida and will be using the water for Hurricane prep. How long can the water stay in the barrells without having to add bleach or the like.
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I've read several different approaches to that here. Most seem to say about six months, and then dump it out and refill. I've yet to make up my mind about it, but then I'm on well water, which is untreated of course. |
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It won't work unless it is stored in a DARK place. Light hitting the water will cause bacteria/alge to grow. If not in a COOL place the plastic from the bags will leach to the water. That is why the barels need to be food grade. They are designed to safely store water.
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This is fine if stored right before you need it. This is not for long term storage unless the bottles are in a COOL DARK place.
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Good point about the light and algae, I hadn't thought of that. Having fish tanks, I know that is true. Would adding a little bleach help?
Also I do believe these are food grade bags.
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