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   [ Only two countries came out of that war richer than they went into it. One of them was Switzerland, who supplied war materials to Germany. I can't remember the other one.[/QUOTE] 

oh my goodness,,can i just say you crack me up?  i love your sense of humor! 

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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 17 2006 at 11:50am
	[ Only two countries came out of that war richer than they went into it. One of them was Switzerland, who supplied war materials to Germany. I can't remember the other one.[/QUOTE] oh my goodness,,can i just say you crack me up? i love your sense of humor!

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 17 2006 at 6:18pm
	albert, this is a good forum. i found it on google. i was already prepping. i got plenty of new ideas from this forum. i appreciate that. when i found it, i checked it out for a while. then i registered. this was my asking to join. you accepted and let me in. i thank you for that. there are trouble makers everywhere. if i become a trouble maker and get kicked out, that is my fault. you run the show and it is a good one. that is the way the world works. if one does not like the show, one needs to find another show. that is pretty simple. i am a member, and i plan on staying a member. this is not just about the bf. it is survival. thank you albert and admin, tigger1

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	scotty, i thought they were neutral.

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	The situation in the UK both during and after the war was one of shortages. We are an island. The ships couldn't get to us, and the few that did had to have escorts from naval warships which were needed elsewhere. After the war there were fewer ships that had not got sunk. Trade took a while to pick up. Sugar, which came mostly from the West Indies was still scarce after the war. Rationing of sweets went on for somewhere areound 5-7 years after the war ended. For some reason eggs were very short and we had to use dried ones - our mothers and grandmothers had stories of how they had to learn to cook with them. There was no butter, no meat - much of that came from New Zealand. There was a "dig for victory" campaign,where people dug up their lawns and flower beds to grow veg, and the public parks were turned into allotments. The govt handed out recipes on how to make soup etc out of stinging nettles. No one actually starved, but it was miserable and difficult. Also all resources had to be devoted to making what was essential rather than what was considered a luxury. There were no building materials, and our cities had been bombed. There was no cloth to make clothes, people sewed bits of old dresses onto the bottoms of others to lengthen them; they unravelled old knitwear and re knittedit to make larger garment s for growing children becaue there was no wool; they cut the sheets down the middle and sewed them back together with the edges in the middle, because the outsides were less worn and would last longer. After BF we could well be ina similar situation. The ships will be there, but the sailors will be in shorter supply, and they will bring their supply ships to woever has something they want to trade. We shall have to compete with countries who can produce more, countries with more land per head. Probably no one in any country will have any eggs or poultry. And like after the war, resources (manpower and fuel) in factories and the like will be concentrating on producing essentials not luxuries. No fancy toiletries and gadgets. Most of our fresh fruit comes from abroad Most of the tinned as well). Tinned fruit will be a luxury, especially when there is no fresh except apples and pears, and not enough of those. Good to have in the stash for the aftermath, like tinned meat which we also can't produce much of ourselves. I also doubt whether the skills to cook from basic ingredients will still have survived. We shall need these during and after the pandemic. I can't see the factories producing instant "ready meals" when there are more important uses for their resources. I have said before that a young woman who was in a student house with my son was given a sack of potatoes by her parents. She gave them to him because she had no idea what to do wiith them! Things are going to have to change, especially in overpopulated countries like the UK! Beth

Scotty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: March 06 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 846	Post Options Post Reply Quote Scotty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 22 2006 at 5:17am
	Everyone is taught that Switzerland was neutral. The money trail tells a different story. History tells some interesting tales but you need to read every version to get anywhere near the facts. Ask yourself, where did Switzerland get the money from? If you really want to wade in the dirty stuff then ask yourself which community from which country ultimately financed Germany's war effort. Embarrassing. Too embarrassing to talk about. Best treat that one like a sleeping dog and let it be. Another interesting historical rumour is that Japan attacked the U.S.A. for no particular reason other than pure aggression. The money trail tells a different story on that one too. Who killed you know who? Just follow the money.

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	hi to all, there was a TV show from the Uk, shown here ,they put a family from today to back then in WW2, and had them live the life, food rations and all. amust see, very informative. roxy

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	krystal I have just returned from a two week holiday and have just read this thread. I have stocked up on a lot of preps from Lidl they are very cheap and the food is good. Fruit juices, oils, spices etc. You seem to be doing well having 6 months of preps. Hope you fixed the leak okay. I recently bought a Summit Freeplay Solar, wind up, mains, short wave fm radio online that is excellent.

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	Fluprepper - hi, I had the cheaper Freeplay 'Ranger' radio on my wishlist, but I notice that yours receives SW as well - do you think this is going to be important - does it justify the extra �25? I'm sorting my preps into storage boxes by a months worth of food, then as I rotate will just empty a box into the kitchen cupboards and refill box plus another each month. I'd love a solar panel but think that's going to be unlikely financially. I used to dream about travelling to far away places, now I day dream about solar and wood stoves, and keeping 1000 litres of water sweet. And I wonder why nobody understands me LOL The leak is fine now - I replaced the waste pipes - they were originally just pushed on - no sealant. Ceiling plasterwork is the next job. Hope you enjoyed a good holiday Fluprepper, and thanks for all your hard work on this site.

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	Hi Krystal The advantage of shortwave radios is that they will pick up from out of area sources should the local or regional stations be out of commission. I also have a small battery shortwave radio packed incase of an emergency along with masks, food,water etc. Most of the emergency preparedness sights recommend and sell shortwave radios so I think it would give you better coverage in an emergency situation. Glad you got your leak fixed. Yes I had a good holiday in Spain thanks. Checked in to this site a few times just in case though. Don't want to be caught off guard! This site has helped me immensely so if we can help others aswell by contributing then it makes it all worthwhile. I did look into solar security lights but have not purchased any yet. So much to think about.