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    Posted: June 26 2006 at 8:33pm
I've read a lot about storing ground wheat, dried beans, etc. on this forum.  Am I the only one who wouldn't have a clue what to do with these things?  I don't used gound wheat now so I'm not sure I'd want that to be my staple during the bird flu.  Anyone else out there who is not familiar with these?
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I don't know a thing about baking bread, myself. So, I'm not including flour or wheat in my preparations. If you're interested in doing something like this I would suggest buying a cookbook and practicing before you need to know how. I figure all the rice, beans, powdered eggs/milk, top ramen, canned & dehydrated vegetables, etc. I have stocked up on should sustain me. I would highly reccomend buying some multivitamins. Sam's Club has big bottles that contain over a years supply for under twenty dollars.
Focusing on the obvious will lead to disaster. It's what you don't aniticipate that gets you killed.
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Hi,
I didn't bake bread before getting on this forum, but since I like bread and it won't be available when TSHTF, I decided that one of my preparations would be to learn how to make it. That was a couple months ago and I now bake two loaves twice a week. My husband who never liked any homebaked bread even likes it. If I had known how simple it was before and how good it tastes (Makes white bread look like the imposter it is!) not to mention the health benefits. I got the recipe perfected and ordered wheat berries and a mill to make flour. I also learned how to can so I can have the meat ,vegetables and fruits of my choice then. If anyone wants to try, I'll be happy to give the recipe. Jo
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Howdy jo007athome.........      
 
I'm with you on making bread.......it's very simple once you get the hang of it and what you get is always worth the effort. 
 
I have only two small issues:
It's hard to make the time when you're working so I usually do it on long weekends.
And the most difficult..........I  E A T  IT.
 
Would love to give your Jo Bread a try....
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Hi,
 
As a real city dweller my entire life, I also had never baked bread until jumping on the forum.  Now I do it every weekend!  My preps include 50 lb of flour per person.  It's fairly simple to make bread and if you get a bread maker - it's idiot proof!  (Just add ingredients and walk away.)
 
Flour is not just for bread.  It's also a birthday cake, pancakes on Sunday morning,  cookies, muffins, danish, a pizza crust, taco's, pie crusts, cobbler, bread pudding, crepes etc.  It's one of my main preps. 
 
Bye the way - another forum member taught me how to freeze eggs (crack them into a bowl, using a fork mix them well, pour into ice cube trays and freeze.  I now spray the trays with pam first to help them pop out easily.  Then vac. seal them in bags and you'll have fresh eggs too.) 
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Hi Penguin,
I'll be happy to share the recipe, and for the newbies also the way to do it.
Jo
 
Bread recipe: Makes 3 loaves
 
4 cups white flour
2 cups wheat flour
1 packet yeast
1 teaspoon sugar
1 tablespoon olive oil
1/4 cup gluten
1 teaspoon salt
 
(You can play with the flours if your gang likes whole grain better than mine, try 1/2 white, 1/2 wheat or ?)
 
put yeast and sugar in 1/2 cup very warm but not hot water, add 1 tablespoon flour (either flour) let set for a few minutes. You will add to dry ingredients with water when it starts to foam up (this is called proofing the yeast)
 
put dry ingredients in large bowl & mix well, add olive oil and water (add yeast mix now) (a little at a time)
until dough forms (I let mine be a little loose-sticky)
grease another large non metal bowl (dough will raise to double or triple in size) to put dough in.
 
sprinkle flour liberally on large counter space, turn dough out onto floured area. Sprinkle more flour on top of dough.Knead dough (think of it as a pie in 4 quarters) by pulling edge up and in towards center, turn dough 1/4 turn an repeat. If dough is sticking to counter sprinkle more flour as needed.
 Knead until dough (adding flour a little at a time) becomes firmed up and has a smooth sort of shiny appearance. Place dough into greased bowl and rub a little oil on the top of dough then put a piece of plastic wrap (you can use a dish towel, I just prefer the plastic. It keeps the dough soft and ply-able) and put bowl in a warm place to raise.
you can turn your oven on for 15-20 seconds and shut it off. If it is too hot for you to touch the oven walls, it is too hot to raise bread (will kill the yeast) Will be twice to three times the dough ball size in an hour or two. Repeat kneading process briefly on lightly floured surface and back to bowl for second raising. When raised for the second time, knead into a length and cut into 3 equal pieces with a sharp knife and put into well greased (mine are old, so I flour them as well like a cake pan) bread pan and into warm (you have to be able to touch walls with your hands comfortably) oven for last raise.
When bread has risen and is above pan edges, should look about like a loaf at this point, turn oven on at 375 degrees and set timer for 35 minutes. You may need less time or more depending on your altitude and oven. Bread will start smelling good and brown on top. When done, turn bread out of pan onto wire rack (or anything that will let air circulate around loaf ) while it cools. 
After it is completely cool, wrap tightly in saran wrap between slicing.This has no preservatives so will mold in about 4 days. You can divide the ingredients if you want to make 1 or 2 loaves. I like this because of the 3 raisings I only use 1 pack of yeast for three loaves, rather than one. Enjoy!
Jo Ellen
 
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w0w    Thanks Jo!!!  This looks great and I can't wait to try it over the 4th holiday weekend.
 
Thanks very much for sending it out and I'll be thinking of you and your family as we enjoy this.
 
 
 
 
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Wheat berries can be soaked and cooked and eaten like a breakfast cereal.  If you don't have a grinder, then this is one way to use unground wheat.

Wheat will keep a very long time (decades) if properly stored.  The huge advantage of unground wheat is it's nutrition - it's retained far, far longer when it's unground.  But of course, you will need a grinder.

Wheat is used for more then baking bread, pancakes, biscuits, muffins, rolls, pastry, scones, etc.  By storing wheat instead of flour, you can be assured of long lasting high level of nutrition.

Protein values range in the 12% - 14% range, making wheat a good substitute for animal protein.

Almost everyone eats wheat (and prepares with it), even if you don't know it.  All the store-bought mixes (cakes, muffins, rolls, biscuit, pancake, etc.) mixes contain wheat of one type or another.  These products have a fairly limited shelf life in their supermarket packaging, but will do in a pinch if you have to eat stale food (figure a couple of years).

If your wheat intolerant, quinoa is an option for some, or you could try kamut.  These can help for those that have digestive issues with wheat.

There are two main types of wheat, hard red and hard white, also known as golden 86.  This latter type makes the lightest bread (or you can add gluten) for light bread.  Heavier breads are usually made with hard red wheat. 

Another option is Ezekial mix, a mixture containing several other grains (red wheat, spelt, pearl barley, millet, lentils, pinto, great northern, and kidney beans).  This can be ground up to make a wonderful bread mix.

Fresh ground wheat is "best" given the choice, but you have to be prepared to grind it for your baking needs, whatever they are.  We fresh  grind ours and store the remainder in the freezer for a short while.  It taste better and has a higher nutritional value then stored flour (or even "fresh flour" from the supermarket).

2 cups of wheat will make 3 cups of flour, so a pail of wheat actually expands if ground up for baking and goes pretty far.  This makes wheat a great source of concentrated food nutrition.
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Penguin,
Let me know what you think of the bread, my whole family loves it. I would like another opinion though, Jo
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