What to expect from H7N9

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   This is really disturbing.
We can expect the governments to do nothing while Big Pharma takes our money.

No quarantines - just business as usual and vaccinations and drugs for us to buy.

H7N9: Bird Flu - What to expect?
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The H7N9 Influenza outbreak in the People's Republic of China has been classified by the European Centres of Disease Control as a ...

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Kilt2 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: December 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 7414	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kilt2 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: What to expect from H7N9 Posted: January 26 2014 at 5:26pm
	This is really disturbing. We can expect the governments to do nothing while Big Pharma takes our money. No quarantines - just business as usual and vaccinations and drugs for us to buy. H7N9: Bird Flu - What to expect? Pravda-4 hours agoShare The H7N9 Influenza outbreak in the People's Republic of China has been classified by the European Centres of Disease Control as a ...
	And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

KiwiMum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Chief Moderator Joined: May 29 2013 Status: Offline Points: 29680	Post Options Post Reply Quote KiwiMum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 26 2014 at 7:07pm
	I guess the problem is knowing what to do, both on an individual and governmental level. Shutting borders (including all import / export trade) is tantamount to economic suicide. Imagine the situation in America. You are talking of 10's of millions of dollars every day and it's not just the money - the knock on effect includes job losses, bankruptcy, financial meltdown, increased prices for the end consumer etc etc. For industry there would be no guarantee of renewing contracts to the people that have been left in the lurch during the shutdown. If a company stops supplying from America, you can bet your life there'll be a rival company in India or elsewhere who will step up. Then you've got the idea of quarantine. Again a tricky one. At what point to you seize control of individuals who have not broken any laws and confine them? Would you need to impose martial law first? If I was running a country I would simply let the virus run it's course. I suspect it would be cheaper and simpler to lose 10% of the population than the ramifications of trying to implement the above. On a personal note, I'd rather take my chances than be rounded up and have restrictions in place. The sensible person will stay away from others and ride out the storm.
	Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.

Suzi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: September 02 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2769	Post Options Post Reply Quote Suzi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 26 2014 at 7:44pm
	Australia kept the Spanish Flu out for a good while, until it was just about over I think. When they opened the ports it went through the country just like everywhere else. They had their pandemic after everyone else. Then there's the encephalitis lethargia.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 26 2014 at 9:54pm
	Sounds good to SIP but kids still go to school, I still have to work, so people will die. You just have to hope that it is not your family. Unless H7N9 gets as bad as the 1918 Pandemic people will not SIP nor will the Government demand it. Unless there are millions dying we will all be in the flu stew!

jacksdad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Executive Admin Joined: September 08 2007 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 47251	Post Options Post Reply Quote jacksdad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 26 2014 at 11:38pm
	In my opinion, if a major pandemic were to hit there'd be very little any government could do that would soften the blow. Some things are just too big for us to fix and a flu outbreak with a CFR in double digits would be one of them. It would incapacitate us at every level, and we'd be powerless until it was finished with us. 30-50% absenteeism due to sickness, death and social distancing would be more than modern society could cope with and everything would grind to a halt.
	"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Offline Points: 95917	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 27 2014 at 12:21am
	Never expected to discuss an article from the Russian Pravda (=Thruth) on an "US"(mostly) website ! First, the article is mostly incorrect, H1N1 was the Spanish Flu not the H7N9-virus. Second; I expect my Government to govern. In case of a very severe pandemic I want my government to close borders, stop all travel, enforce social distancing as much as possible ! That would cause enormous economic damage but "sitting out the virus" would even do more damage ! The only good thing of that article is the point that governments, politics, are so in-active. They do not seem to recognize their responsibility ! But that lack of taking leadership is not new.
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

OriginalHappyCamper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote OriginalHappyCamper Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 27 2014 at 5:27am
	What makes you think the people in the government would not be in hiding avoiding the pandemic? They, in my opinion, would take care of themselves first before they would take care of the masses. We have current history to support this opinion, OBAMACARE

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Offline Points: 95917	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 27 2014 at 8:09am
	Happy Camper; in theory the government serves the public, I'm sorry to have to agree with you that in present day politicians seem to be working not for the general cause....
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

jacksdad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Executive Admin Joined: September 08 2007 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 47251	Post Options Post Reply Quote jacksdad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 27 2014 at 8:33am
	Yep, you know that medications and the first batches of vaccines would undoubtedly be reserved for politicians, military leaders and their families. The rest of us would be way down the list. The same would apply to any essentials. Nobody will be looking out for us and that's why we need to prep.
	"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.