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How Transmissible is EBOLA? |
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Satori
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Posted: September 04 2014 at 8:38pm |
yer not gonna like the answer How transmissible is Ebola? About the same as pandemic flu " September 04, 2014 " |
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onefluover
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Thanks Satori. Since it takes on average less than a month from exposure to death, then the average of one secondary exposure would take place in less days than that. My guess is RO 2 by 20 days. Again, uninterrupted, that emcompases the entire human race in 18 months. Granted, many parts of the world will give it Hell at their borders but anyone who thinks this thing will not soon escape Africa is a fool and a dangerous person. There are somewhere between 1 and 1.5 billion people there. They will escape in droves, mostly to neighboring countries where we all have ever closer connections and peculiarly interesting relations with. This virus alone could cause nuclear war like nothing else has.
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atheris
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and it probably will.. it has all the necessary premisses.... france, spain and italy are the gates of such coming in uncontrolled over the seas... with the migrations that already take place... surely even if airports are perfectly sealed ... there are always other roots too. *maybe it just will take a little bit longer .... it is still weird that it did not escape by plane to other countries
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onefluover
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It hasn't left by plane because one, it is still a reletively tiny fraction of the pop infected and two, because air travel has in fact been severely dampened. But make no mistake about it, when the number infected reach a boiling point, which is mathematically certain in the very near future, we will see MILLIONS of people fleeing for the borders in car, motorbike, bicycles, private aircraft, boats, and on foot, driven by the two things in life we fear the most, hunger and gruesome death. Border guards don't have enough ammo for the sheer amounts of people that are going to swell and over run them. They will flee with their lives knowing that not only are they outnumbered a thousand to one, but these people carry with them a DoomsDay Plague.
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coyote
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You guys are spot on!
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Long time lurker since day one to Member.
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Albert
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Infectious as the flu could be somewhat accurate, but maybe more similar to a summer flu in the way/rate it's spreading. That will probably change, and all things being considered, i agree in that there is probably not a lot that can be done to stop it.
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Elver
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They can stop this, but they are totally unwilling to do so.
1) Cancel all passenger flights in and out of W. Africa, except cargo flights carrying doctors, nurses, and needed supplies. 2) Block all roads leading in and out of the infected areas with the exception of health care workers or those delivering medical supplies. 3) Do what they can to stop this within the infected areas and let itself burn out there. Unless the WHO agrees to do these things, it could very likely become a world wide problem. Then everybody in the entire world will have perfect 20/20 hindsight! If this ends up circulating throughout the world, it will be like the H1N1 seasonal flu and keep circulating year after year after year until most of us are dead. |
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Johnray1
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Elver,there is not the political will to stop this.It will continue to spread until the smartest people in the world are over ruled by people who have seen to many bodies and to much spread.----But it might be to late by then.Johnray1
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Elver
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The WHO and the CDC are either brain dead or they want this to spread in order to reduce world population. There is absolutely no other way to look at this. By the way, I just saw on FOX News that a "study" determined that Ebola will likely end up in the U.S. via air travel.
ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT STUPID THAT THEY NEED A "STUDY" TO FIGURE THIS OUT??? |
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DANNYKELLEY
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The doctor on fox seems really concerned that it may become airborne.
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WHAT TO DO????
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sleusha
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Agreed.. ridiculous to do a "study" when you are face-to-face with the obvious. In other words, rapid spread, and it will catch many foolish people by surprise. They'll be wondering where it came from and wondering why no one took it seriously and wonder why no one is doing anything about it. Yet they didn't care to listen when it wasn't in their own backyards.
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Be the positive change that you want to see. Live it, be it, push for it.
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Elver
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Delta Airlines is the largest U.S. carrier into and out of W. Africa. So, the next time you fly Delta, ask yourself if that plane carried an infected ebola person.
Next time I fly, it will be a different carrier. http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/advisories/west-africa-health-situation.html Check out the graph of flights from carriers into Africa. Delta has the most flights, followed by Continental, and then United. http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/united-airlines-eager-to-tap-expected-growth-in-us-africa-market-65431 If these airlines won't stop flying out of there, then it is time to boycott them. They will only bring the virus into the U.S. given enough time. If the WHO believes that airlines still need to bring in doctors and supplies, then let them send in "dedicated" cargo planes instead of passenger planes! |
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