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Ohhh, you live in Kalifornia. Kalifornia is *VERY* not gun friendly, but there shouldn't be any real restrictions on that type of firearm, and definately not any further monetary charge for a free background check. You're not going to be getting your hands on a nice AK or AR as they have the whole detachable magazine deal, but a Mosin is well within the legal status in Kali.

Good luck, I hope you get a good one!
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turboguy, i started working a few months ago for the local metal recycler. a guy came in the other day with a feed sack of once fired brass. scaled in at 125 lbs. we buy cartridge brass at $1.60 per lb. can you read my mind? I'm like a kid in a candy store. when the guards from the prison across the road bring in their firing range brass, comes in by the 55 gal. drum, ( 5.56 & .40 s&w)...... powder & primers, can never have enough.
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Diego, I hate you...

Once fired? Probably federal brass too isn't it. God, if these guys had any idea exactly what they're giving away. With the price of ammo going through the roof I'm almost looking to maybe buy one of those really nice factory grade reloaders.
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turbo, Dillon progressive? nice stuff, do you get their blue press? I've got over 25 years on my Lyman turret press. also have a rockchucker. favorite cast bullet powders, reddot, unique and herco. speaking of cast, a local brought in a 450lb. block of wheel weights today. going to get some new blades for my sawsall, he,he,he.
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 I get the blue press, that's a good company.
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Just got back from the guns show here in Vegas. Picked up xd45 (13 rd) magazine for $20, one ak mag and one mag for my m4 for $14 each (new). I was suprised to see that 7.62x39 (1000 rds) Wolf ammo went for $189. In the local guns stores you see the stuff for $250. Some really good prices on the other ammo. Alot of the ammo was already gone so there were only a few to select from. I was suprised also that the show was half the size it was a year and a half ago. Last time I went it was wall to wall with all sorts of characters. I got that warm fuzzy feeling seeing all those gangsters types looking and buying. Anyway, I picked out what I am going to get my wife for her birthday. She doesn't know it yet but I think she will take a fancy to guns when I buy her that SOCOM II.
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Diego, that's exactly who I'm going to go through if I were going to do it. I buy most of my stuff from them as it stands, and haven't ever had a problem with any of their products.

Also the Blue Press has great articles. That one about Jim Zumbo's disgrace is a classic!

Tadeo, look into the standard M1A. Those SOCOM ones are LOUD! A regular M1A can be used as a fantastic hunting rifle which nears the accuracy potential of a boltgun. The SOCOM, if shot without hearing protection (like hunting) can cause permanant hearing damage with as little as a single shot. Further they're nowhere near as accurate as the full length M1A. Don't get me wrong, it's still a gun, and I'm glad that you're getting her a very nice rifle, just take a look at the standard length options before you buy the shorty.
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The SOCUM II just looks too cool.  You are right, the standard m1a is the way to go.  However, after looking at the price ($1500) plus optics ($???) i may wait til Christmas.  But the m1a is definitely my next gun..no..I meant her gun. 
Question:  What's everyones opinion for optics for the M4? I personally like the Eotech and the price is just about right at $400.  I want to try to stay below that. 
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I am a *HUGE* fan of the EOTech. I used the Aimpoint when I first got into Warrants because some of the other officers said it was what they used during their Ranger days. I fugured if it's good enough for that, it's good enough for me.

Then I tried the EOTech and haven't gone back, nor will I, even if Aimpoint sponsored me! The EOTech is just about unbeatable. The huge field of view and smaller pinpoint just works better than the Aimpoint, in my opinion of course.

Tadeo, do you get Shotgun News? There's an ad in there from Bachmann pawn and gun. They're a dealer out in Texas that sells new M1A's for right around $1000... I think they're in Texas. Anyway, you can get your rifle shipped to your local FFL and get it transferred. (following all local laws regarding ownership of a battle rifle)

You're not going to need optics on your M1A. They're one of the most accurate battle rifles, thanks to that extremely long sight radius. Two inch groups at 200 yards in the prone unsupported position are commonplace at the range I shoot at.
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I thumb through Shotgun news when at Walmart.  I'll check ou their ad next time I'm there.  I am some what wary of doing out of state gun sales via mail or web.  However I did google Bachmann pawn and gun and found them to be in Dallas, TX.  On their web site they had the Gerand m1 for $1100 but not the m1a.   Speaking of the Gerand, Big 5 had a sale a couple of years ago in which they sold the Gerand for $499.  I kick myself for not getting one then.

Aimpoint is rather expensive.  I can't imagine myself spending more on an Aimpoint than what I spent on my Bushmaster.   I also like the EOTech, but which one?  The less expensive one uses double A batteries and the other one uses the lithium batteries but the expensive one can also be used with night vision equipment (i believe).  Is it worth the $100 bucks more?
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There's four or five models. The ones that use the AA cells are typically $50 more expensive, but they're the only way I go. I can get AA batteries just about anywhere, I have no idea where you're going to get those CR2015 cells (Or whatever they take) Only get the Nightvision one if you have a level IV or better nightvision device, otherwise it's a waste. You can put it down at the lowest setting and it's perfect for the older generations nightvision.

Bachmann Pawn and Gun can be contacted through the phone. You just call them, tell them you want to order whatever rifle you desire and tell them where you want it sent (An FFL). It's usually a good idea to talk to your FFL dealer prior to ordering to see if they'll do a transfer. If they charge $25 or close per transfer with no markup, go for it and toss him/her a $20 or $50 tip for their trouble. If they won't do it, or charge you ten or twenty percent, well... I wouldn't personally do business with them unless there was nowhere else to go. Anyway, I am the same way you are, I don't order stuff over the internet, I want to talk to a person. I make my order and get the weapon sent to the FFL dealer I know. He does the form 4473 NICS check, and the gun is mine. I toss him a $50 and say bye.

Don't order stuff over the internet or by mail. If they don't have a phone number, don't buy from them.
    
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okay, so it's the double A one that cost more.  It makes more sense to have that one instead due to battery availability.
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found this article on Stevequayle.com.  Rifle Skills (part 1)
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Hey all, I'm wanting to add a rifle or shotgun, still not sure of which. Looking at 3 models, and wanting opinions, if ya please.
Henry Rifle AR-7, for camping/backpacking, and to keep in the truck on the long road trips...
Mossberg, maybe the 590 Special Purpose 9-shot or the Persuader 8-shot.
 
Finally, i have an opportuity to buy an M1A1 .30 carbine. I've looked over the rifle and it is in very good condition. Anyone know what they're going for these days?
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Big 5 sporting goods has that carbine for $999. 
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Fiction: http://www.odcmp.com/rifles/carbine.htm

As for your AR-7, only if you don't already have a Ruger 10-22. Though I hate Ruger and will never buy anything from that company due to their Second Amendment treason back in the 1990's, I do recognize that Ruger's 10-22 offering is a fantastic little .22LR, but only because of all teh aftermarket parts that various companies offer. You can get a 10-22, five or ten fifty round magazines, and 10,000 rounds of .22 on the cheap. You're probably not going to grab your 10-22 as your first choice for home defense, but it can get you a nice meal in a pinch if the situation warranted, and I suppose could be used as a defense weapon backing up someone with a larger weapon.

Any Mossburg or Remington pumpgun will serve you faithfully as long as you keep them maintained. Both are fantastic deals, and you really are getting far more gun for the money you spend on these shotguns. My dad's had an 870 for nearly forty years and it's still kicking.
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Don't have the 10/22. Was looking for something in a compact 22, which is what attracted me to the Henry AR-7, I tend to be a better shot with a rifle than a pistol.
 
I was under the impression that most dealers would either be at or below MSRP...Henry MSRP on that gun is about $225. Local dealer wants $300 for it. They want at least $200 abover MSRP on the mossberg and the M1 is over $1k.
 
I am shopping around though....anyone care to tell me what they've seen the guns go for? Trying to figure out what I should expect to pay plus/minus $100
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Fiction, The Ruger 10/22 is a rifle, is very compact, and is exactly in the price range you're talking about. The parts are ubiqutious and most of the time the 10/22 is rediculously accurate. I've got a 16 inch heavy barrel on mine with a scope that's designed for an AR15. At 50 yards I make happy faces on two inch diameter targets. Anything more than that and wind kind of screws up my smiley. I think you've got my recommendation confused with the Ruger Mk4.

You're a beter shot with a rifle because rifles are inherently more accurate than pistols. The sight radius is three to four times as long, they're far more steady, and usually two or three times as powerful even when in the same chambering as a pistol.

Follow the link I gave you for the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) the guy is screwing you on that price for that M1 Carbine. I bought one for $565.00 from CMP. If you're a member of a shooting club, military/ex-military, VFW, American Legion, or police officer you can buy direct from CMP, and they'll ship it to your house. No FFL necessary.
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Yeah, i figured the price was outrageous but I hadn't found anything less expensive. Thanks for the link, BTW.
 
I've seen and used a 10/22. As far as rifles go, it's pretty nice. I found the Henry attractive caue I could break it down and stow it in my pack, and like i said, i'm better with a rifle. My hands shake sometimes, and it makes holding a pistol steady a real challenge.
I have other rifles for large game, but i'd really hate to use a 308 on a rabbit...wanting the smaller caliber and inexpensive ammo option for small game animals, like rabbit, squirrel, etc.
 
Was looking at the 12 gauge more for home defense than anything else, though it might also be used a bit for quail or dove.
Thanks for the advice.
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fictionwriter, warning, you might catch m-1 carbineitis. turbo's right go with CMP. if you handload you can get that $25.00 a box factory ammo down to less than $3.00 with cast bullets. a buddie just called, scored me 1000 once fired brass for free, made my night.
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