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    Posted: September 21 2017 at 10:43am
If people would take a closer look they would find the Clinton's - especially Hillary Clinton had more than passing association with the Russians.

But, should the Democrats also be calling for deep investigations into the Hillary campaign thanks to Fareed’s interview?

Peskov told Fareed that Kislyak, the Russian ambassador who met with Trump campaign officials, also met with “people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”

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WHO CARES ???

if Hillary committed any crimes

PROSECUTE her

Hillary's real or  imagined crimes

DO NOT EXCUSE TRUMPS CRIMES


this is like a serial killer arguing that he is not as bad a person as another serial killer
because he only killed ten people and the other guy killed fifteen

the FACT remains

the Russians DESPERATELY wanted TRUMP in the White House NOT Hillary

ALL of their actions were designed to help TRUMP

and Trump and those around him have CONSISTENTLY LIED about their connections to the Russians
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

WHO CARES ???

if Hillary committed any crimes

PROSECUTE her

Hillary's real or  imagined crimes

DO NOT EXCUSE TRUMPS CRIMES


this is like a serial killer arguing that he is not as bad a person as another serial killer
because he only killed ten people and the other guy killed fifteen

the FACT remains

the Russians DESPERATELY wanted TRUMP in the White House NOT Hillary

ALL of their actions were designed to help TRUMP

and Trump and those around him have CONSISTENTLY LIED about their connections to the Russians


They are trying to get a second special prosecutor to investigate Hillary's crimes. So far, there has been and is not proof that Trump committed any sort of crime.  Whatever Russia may have done because they wanted Trump in, does not make Trump responsible for it. They hated Hillary. She would have been a real pain for them.

https://www.conservativefolks.com/2017/06/08/comey-russians-involved-hillary-clinton/


Comey has now come out with some shocking evidence against Hillary Clinton. It sounds like she was the one involved with the Russians and not President Trump. It has been reported that Hillary Clinton has received millions of dollars from the Russians into the Clinton Foundation.

This has been reported before but we are now seeing why it is such big deal. Why does someone like Hillary Clinton get away with this but President Donald Trump is attacked mercilessly. Some things need to change in this country before it is too late. Obviously Comey could have come out against Trump but he said the truth. Liberals are furious now. They have come out with lie after lie against the President and his administration. They are still trying to push their agenda.

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Satori has a point.  Just because Hilary behaves like a POS does not mean that Trump is innocent.

This news channel has a good reputation and oversight, so there is no reason to doubt this is true.  They are conservative/right wing, but not insanely so.

Conclusion: Stuff about Hilary  - irrelevant, as she is not in power, but correct.
                   Stuff about Trump - unresearched/not presented here, despite relevance.
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As if we had no idea.  It would appear that Bill and Hillary's Russia connections were far deeper and worse than the mainstream first admitted.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/18/grassley-probes-clinton-conflicts-interest-amid-new-questions-in-russia-uranium-deal.html

A top Senate Republican is probing potential “conflicts of interest” for Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration regarding the 2010 approval of a controversial uranium deal with a Russian company, amid new details about donations from “interested parties” and an FBI corruption probe involving employees of the same Russian firm.

“This committee has an obligation to get to the bottom of this issue,” Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said Wednesday, at the start of a hearing with Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

The Hill reported a day earlier that the FBI had evidence as early as 2009 that Russian operatives used bribes, kickbacks and other dirty tactics to expand Moscow’s atomic energy footprint in the U.S. -- but the Obama administration approved the uranium deal benefiting Moscow anyway.

Grassley on Wednesday released a series of letters he fired off last week to 10 federal agencies, addressing those issues in detail and raising the question of whether the committee that approved the transaction was aware of the FBI probe. The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) included then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

comment: So, it looks like not only Hillary, but the Obama administration and President Obama were dealing with Russia and there is far more to find here than any Trump collusion.

There is a pattern here and I would say sadly, but I do not feel it is sad, the press will turn on both Obama and Hillary - because they are not interested in helping anyone - just making money and headlines.

It has hit the fan and subsequent investigations will continue to release more facts about the corruption in both previous Democrat administrations. It's about time for the Real News.

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Satori has a point.  Just because Hilary behaves like a POS does not mean that Trump is innocent.

This news channel has a good reputation and oversight, so there is no reason to doubt this is true.  They are conservative/right wing, but not insanely so.

Conclusion: Stuff about Hilary  - irrelevant, as she is not in power, but correct.
                   Stuff about Trump - unresearched/not presented here, despite relevance.


Yes, but this thread is about Hillary. There already is a companion one to attack Trump. I find this far more interesting after hearing the same old rehashed no evidence versus the deep seated corruption in the Clinton Foundations with pay for play and big money put down to influence Hillary's policy and actions.

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The Real News about Hillary - Anonymous

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And now it hits the fan my AFT family. The Real News. Know what - I was right all along. It is one of the biggest scandals in American history.

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Fair enough, Med.  Although the question does arise: "Why bother?"  She is not in power.
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deflect, accuse ,misinform,lie about,belittle,cajole,then run for cover.......LET THE PRESS (and fox lies)DO THE REST....

anything to get the story off Chump..........

who is UNFIT for the post......

no amount of fooling will change that ,and you have been....................

                                          FOOLED

and why cant the USA have health cover for ALL,like we have downunder???????

no Chump supporter will answer THAT

selfish people thats why.................nasty selfish ,i' m ok St..f you ,

see you later just on my way to Church................Hypocrites

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NOT WITH CHUMP AS YOUR LEADER....................

 
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Well, Med began the thread and he says it is about Hilary.  That is OK............ But:

I have one question.  It has been awaiting an answer for some time now.  Absolutely Nothing said about Hilary will change my opinion by the tiniest soupcon until it gets a satisfactory answer.

If she is so guilty, why did Trump drop his promise to chase her until he could "Lock her up"?

I have a few possible theories:

1, It was all smoke and mirrors
2, She is hellishly guilty, but Trump does not give a sh1t, as it no longer affects his campaign.  Justice be dammed, he just wants the power.
3, They are almost all corrupt, on both sides and dropping all investigations stops more sh1t emerging.  (McCain exempt from that cohort).  So you only accuse the opposition when there are big gains to win.
4, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Well?  Still waiting......................................
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

deflect, accuse ,misinform,lie about,belittle,cajole,then run for cover.......LET THE PRESS (and fox lies)DO THE REST....

anything to get the story off Chump..........

who is UNFIT for the post......

no amount of fooling will change that ,and you have been....................

                                          FOOLED

and why cant the USA have health cover for ALL,like we have downunder???????

no Chump supporter will answer THAT

selfish people thats why.................nasty selfish ,i' m ok St..f you ,

see you later just on my way to Church................Hypocrites

                                       MAKE AMERICA GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT WITH CHUMP AS YOUR LEADER....................

 


God help us all if you were a real newscaster with a large audience. Why don't you just get a piece of paper, scrawl with a crayon, take a picture of it and post that?  It would appear you are on a mission and don't let reality or the facts confuse you.

It is time I posted a thread of why Bull is full of Bull on your prime minister. After all you have been going after my president quite a while now. Fair is fair.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-australia-out-of-step-on-gay-marriage-20131215-2zfbu.html

So let's get to it. Senior Liberal Malcolm Turnbull has increased pressure on his own colleagues to back gay marriage, saying Australia is getting out of step with similar countries.

Mr Turnbull, a prominent advocate for gay marriage on the conservative side of politics, also said he expected the Coalition eventually to allow a conscience vote - a key step in getting legislation through Federal Parliament.

https://urbanwronski.com/2017/02/12/turnbull-government-reveals-a-lump-of-coal-at-its-heart-in-a-disgraceful-week-of-name-calling/

“He has no respect for the taxpayer any more than he has respect for the members of the Australian Workers Union, he betrayed again and again. He sold them out. He sold them out.”

A volley of cheap shots rings out across the chamber this week as a beleaguered Malcolm Turnbull begins the new parliamentary year in a flat spin. He’s under attack on all sides, travel rorts, Trump’s dumping on him, Bernardi’s defection, Abbott’s sniping, a seven-month losing streak in the polls and what to do about George Brandis and his diary.

What do you do with an Attorney General, an officer in charge of freedom of information who refuses a court order to make his appointments public as Mark Dreyfus, a real QC, has requested? The London posting  can’t come soon enough.

Peta Credlin, Abbott’s all-powerful, all-seeing former chief of staff helpfully puts the skids under the PM she dubbed “Mr Harbourside Mansion” when she tells Sky viewers the Coalition is broken by “an unbridgeable ideological divide”.

Add in to the mix electricity blackouts, a failure to curb power sector emissions and an energy market crisis which has been simmering unattended for years. Luckily energy is all Labor’s fault. It’s their ideological belief in the future of the planet instead of doing whatever it takes to protect the wealth of the coal industry and its many rent-seekers.

The power crisis is caused by Labor because Labor is led by Bill Shorten, a Labor leader who has dinner with rich people!

Desperately, the PM who sold out to his right wing, aims to divert his critics and snatch back credibility by assassinating Hypocrite Bill’s character. Yet Turnbull aims so low he destroys any vestige of credibility; shoots himself in the foot.

The other foot is in his mouth. With nothing left to lose, a gung-ho meets gonzo PM Trumps up his invective; indulges his inner bully in an assault on the man, not his policies, complete with gratuitous, archly homophobic insults.

“This sycophant, blowing hard in the House of Representatives, sucking hard in the living rooms of Melbourne, what a hypocrite,” Turnbull sneers. The “simpering” “sycophant” “sucking up to Dick [Pratt]” “tucked his knees under… tables” jeers the PM. The dig is unlikely to boost his stocks in his inner-Sydney electorate of Wentworth, however many sniggers it gets from his party. Nor will his prejudice play well with his broader constituency.

comment: Are we having fun yet? We can go on with this as long as you keep attacking Trump.

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You are deflecting, Med.

I am neither American nor Australian.  I hope that gives me a more bipartisan viewpoint.

Trump is a joke internationally.  Sorry, but he is.  The only time other countries press/leadership/people stop laughing is when they are having nightmares about his finger being on the button or growling with anger that a people so good hearted could have elected such a monster.  Oh, and when hey are propping up his ego in the hope of a better trade deal.

Australia's leader, by comparison is almost invisible.  Not brilliant, not dreadful, just quietly and fairly efficiently getting on with the job.  

The really scary, tragic and possibly hilarious joke on you all is that half of you Americans can't see it.

Repeat after me:  "Seig Heil!" and "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!"  That is where the Trump path leads.


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Ps., Turnbull does not upset the widows of his honored war dead.
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"  It would appear you are on a mission and don't let reality or the facts confuse you."

Med YOU of all people actually said this ???ConfusedLOL

and Trey Gowdy,the literal king of USELESS INVESTIGATIONS is going to look into this
so sleep tightLOL

I'll be in favor of locking Hillary up ONLY if Trump gets the cell right next to hers
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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Well, Med began the thread and he says it is about Hilary.  That is OK............ But:

I have one question.  It has been awaiting an answer for some time now.  Absolutely Nothing said about Hilary will change my opinion by the tiniest soupcon until it gets a satisfactory answer.

If she is so guilty, why did Trump drop his promise to chase her until he could "Lock her up"?

I have a few possible theories:

1, It was all smoke and mirrors
2, She is hellishly guilty, but Trump does not give a sh1t, as it no longer affects his campaign.  Justice be dammed, he just wants the power.
3, They are almost all corrupt, on both sides and dropping all investigations stops more sh1t emerging.  (McCain exempt from that cohort).  So you only accuse the opposition when there are big gains to win.
4, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Well?  Still waiting......................................


It would appear there enough swamp guards on duty to bury this story of what was done with Russia by Hillary and Obama. It is no doubt a huge story and just because someone is out of office does not give them a get-out-of-jail free card. In fact, you can't go to jail while you are in office.

This does remind me of an unfaithful wife who says coldly - "yes I cheated on you and slept with your best friend - but that was last year and that is in the past".

These are the very same people that are hooting and hollering about Trump and Russia which we have clear and objective proof of bribery, collusion and pay for play with the Clinton Foundation.  20% of our nuclear uranium reserves.

What is hard to understand?  Over and over our enemies paid the Clinton Foundation while Hillary was in Office to get special treatment and special favors. 

This eclipses anything in Trump's past. This was done while in office and endangered the national security of our country.

However, the story has now disappeared from Fox within hours (did someone call in favors and kill it) and never did appear today in any of the other mainstream media.

Now Fox is filled with teacher's aides who slept with their 15 year old students, Northham has a 7 point lead over Gillespie in the Virginia race (like these polls matter- this is where the tampering in elections happens - with the media trying to poison an election) and Longtime Neo-Nazi leader is gay - (this is a page from CNN's book).

These acts of collusion with the Russians by the Clintons and President Obama were treason. As if sending Muslim terrorists in Iran billions of dollars - much of it in cash - to fund their nuclear research.

This is actual complete proof of what happened. They have requested the investigation be continued and people be sent to jail - no matter who they were.

A huge muzzle has just been put on the media. Don't expect to hear much more about this. It is off the page already. Once can hope they will continue to investigate - but both Obama and Hillary and Bill are too busy making money from their friends - many of them our enemies - and above the law.

So - would it matter if your husband or wife cheated a year later because he or she was careful you didn't find out. Yea, it would.

And does Trump care about what they discovered?  I would think yes - but  currently he under fire from another social justice warrior attack and trying to contain the damage. Damned if you do - damned if you don't.  It is like an argument with a person who can take either side - depending on which one you take and argue equally as well. They don't care what the truth is - they just like to argue and fight.

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Still waiting.................................
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I'll bring over a copy of War and Peace and a set of encyclopedias

it's gonna be a LONG waitLOL
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Hang on!  While I am waiting I thought you said this was about Hilary, Why are you suddenly talkking about Obama?

No, that was stupid of me, Answer the main question first.

If she is so guilty, why did Trump drop his promise to chase her until he could "Lock her up"?

Still waiting........................................
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