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Could it be that there is only extremely circumstantial and invented evidence.  Lies, Damn lies and Trump Tweets?


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very interesting that two of the MOST right wing KRazEEEE sites
have given little if any attention to the latest Hillary "scandal "
these two sites have lambasted Hillary fo ever and a day on anything and everything

things that make ya go hmmmmmm ???
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Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

If people would take a closer look they would find the Clinton's - especially Hillary Clinton had more than passing association with the Russians.

But, should the Democrats also be calling for deep investigations into the Hillary campaign thanks to Fareed’s interview?

Peskov told Fareed that Kislyak, the Russian ambassador who met with Trump campaign officials, also met with “people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”


The Russkies meet with everyone, and they pass influence (bribes) around as well.  

I was NOT a super-Clinton supporter and voted for Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the IL primaries, he would have been an honest choice for GOP President.  

Bill's meeting on the plane with Loretta Lynch disgusted me, it was so typical "Clinton" = we can do whatever the hell we want, screw the consequences.  I'll be happy to see that family in the rear view mirror of American history. 

That being said, I don't think there is a comparison between the Russkies dumping some cash on the Clintons vs. commanding the US election system and engineering a victory for Trump. 

Also, the coordination of Trump and Russia is pretty amazing, I'm waiting to see what Trump's tax returns show (Mueller has them).
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John Kasich
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I was very disappointed that he wasn't the Republican nominee
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Trumbull was right to have a vote on marriage equality,,it looks like it will pass easily,and has had a bigger return than your election, when you voted for a Fool,noone here listens to sky news it's as bad as fox news, in fact owned by the same fake news company,and as for the politics here they all a bunch of liars as well ,as for the facts I'm taking a leaf out of Chump the Liars book...

Ps,we have a nationalhealth scheme that looks after everyone,why dosnt the great USA have the same......
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THE latest same-sex marriage poll shows the Yes campaign is comfortably ahead, with overwhelming support among those who have already voted.

A special Newspoll survey shows a massive 59 per cent of those who have returned their postal ballots are in favour of legalising gay marriage. Just 38 per cent of the millions of Australians who have voted said they were against.

The poll conducted for The Australian comes just a day after the latest estimate from the Australian Bureau of Statistics revealed that 10.8 million survey forms had been returned as of Friday, October 13.

That means around 67.5 per cent of the 16 million forms sent out have been posted back.

The only way in which the No campaign could now succeed is by winning three out of every four remaining votes, according to the figures from Newspoll.

It also found a high level of support for same-sex marriage among those who have not yet voted, with 56 per cent of all respondents in favour of the legislative change and 37 per cent against.

Supporters of marriage equality are leading the way with three weeks to go until the vote closes. Picture: Danny Casey/AAP Image

Supporters of marriage equality are leading the way with three weeks to go until the vote closes. Picture: Danny Casey/AAP ImageSource:AAP

The No side has gained some ground since last year, but not enough to come anywhere near the support for Yes.

Support for same-sex marriage is strongest in the youngest demographic, aged 18-34, with 66 per cent in favour and just 28 per cent against. The ratio narrows as voters get older; people aged over 65 are the only group more likely to vote No, with 49 per cent against legalising gay marriage to 44 per cent in favour.

Older voters are more likely to return their ballots, but it is looking increasingly unlikely they can reverse the trend at this juncture.

Still, the votes continue to stream in, with 800,000 forms returned each week over the past fortnight. The poll found that 65 per cent of respondents had already voted, and just under 20 per cent said they still definitely would.

The figures have defied the expectations of both opponents and proponents of same-sex marriage, who did not predict such a significant voter turnout in a non-compulsory postal ballot.

The Equality Campaign’s Shirleene Robinson said it showed Australians hadn’t forgotten about LGBTI neighbours. “Australians have recognised how important this issue is to their family, friends and colleagues and are doubling down to ensure that when this campaign is over we are left with the fair, equitable and inclusive country that when this campaign is over we are left with the fair, equitable and inclusive country that we all want,” she said.

“This is a great result and confirms that Australians want to get this done and are returning their surveys in record numbers.”

And it seems the No side is beginning to accept defeat, with Immigration Minister Peter Dutton, who is against same-sex marriage, telling the audience at a Fairfax media event in Sydney last week he believed Yes would win.

The minister personally opposes changing the law but has pledged to vote for it in Parliament if the Yes campaign is successful.

Treasurer Scott Morrison, who also supports traditional marriage, said he would wait to see the results. “Australians are having their say at the moment. That’s what I wanted them to have,” he told the ABC.

With three weeks left until the survey closes on November 7, many Australians have indicated that they will keep voting right down to the wire. But 50 per cent of Australians who responded to the Newspoll said they opposed the Government undertaking a postal plebiscite at all, to 43 per cent in favour and seven per cent uncommitted.

The ABS has warned all surveys should be posted back by October 27 to ensure they arrive before the deadline.

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

• Requests for replacement forms close on 6pm, October 20. You can also pick up a form from certain locations or call 1800 572 113.

• There’s a paperless option for eligible Australians travelling or living overseas, people in aged care facilities, or those with an illness, injury or disability, to respond online or by phone.

• Survey forms must be received at the ABS by 6pm (local time) on November 7 to be included in the count.

• Survey results will be published on November 15.

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Hang on!  While I am waiting I thought you said this was about Hilary, Why are you suddenly talkking about Obama?

No, that was stupid of me, Answer the main question first.

If she is so guilty, why did Trump drop his promise to chase her until he could "Lock her up"?

Still waiting........................................


Apparently you aren't the only one reading my thread.

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Uranium deal to Russia, with Clinton help and Obama Administration knowledge, is the biggest story that Fake Media doesn't want to follow!



I don't think you have any idea of the severity or reality of how big this is. And contrary to remarks President Trump doesn't care - well obviously he does.

This may result in a re-opening of the Hillary mail issue which she lied about under oath which was covered up by Comey and forgiven before it was investigated. I have been on this Real News thing for almost 2 years with my fledgling News CWN I have been working on - and now 50% - at least - think the mainstream is publishing Fake News about Trump.

This is not about Bill Clinton in the oval office having sex - this is about possible racketeering charges for someone who got $145,000,000 dollars from Russia in a Uranium deal. This is what made them rich.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/clinton-foundation-caught-in-a-145-million-scandal-with-russia-after-all-the-talk-about-trump-and-russia-it-is-clinton-dealing-with-putin-oh-wow-eric-braverman-surfaces/


Yesterday I saw CNN, NBC, New York Times, and everyone but Fox try to bury this.  Mueller was in collusion as well in terms of all of this corruption and should be relieved immediately of his position in the investigations and replaced by someone else. Also, they need to reopen what was covered up on those emails.

The now not only need to drain the swamp - they need to flush it and close the lid - and send these people to jail with some other very corrupt people who were in on this. Some are already in jail over this uranium deal and today Sessions said - we are going to look at this ...

Hillary's Russian Connections - very real - very obvious - with much more evidence and intent.

A day earlier, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, vowed at a public hearing to “get to the bottom of this issue.” This was as The Hill reported that the FBI had evidence as early as 2009 that Russian operatives used bribes, kickbacks and other dirty tactics to expand Moscow’s atomic energy footprint in the U.S. -- yet the Obama administration approved the uranium deal benefiting Moscow anyway.

So not only just Hillary anymore, Obama as well.

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https://www.politicusdaily.com/2017/10/18/breaking-robert-mueller-involved-massive-fbi-scandal-resign-immediately/

October 18, 2017 - yesterday...

Special council Robert Mueller has been trying to find anything he can to use against President Donald Trump in the Russia collusion investigation. The fact that this man thinks he is in anyway helping the United States is laughable. There are many conservatives around the country who find this investigation totally unacceptable. It is quickly turning into nothing more than a witch hunt.

Now there are new details coming in that show that Robert Mueller might not be such a good fit for the job as he says he is. During the reign of Obama and his administration, Mueller was largely involved with the FBI. He served as the director of the FBI until 2013. During this time, he was involved in several different scandals. But this Russian bribery scandal might be the biggest one yet.

Before the Obama administration approved a deal that would give a Russian company 20% of the American supply of uranium., the FBI collected details on this company and any Russian involvement. They found evidence that showed bribes among other things.

But magically this evidence was hidden by Mueller’s FBI. How can he get away with this. That means that they knew this was going on and they still did nothing to stop it.

“The Russians were compromising American contractors in the nuclear industry with kickbacks and extortion threats, all of which raised legitimate national security concerns,” a source who worked on the case explained. “And none of that evidence got aired before the Obama administration made those decisions.”

Why would they refuse to release any evidence of their findings? This is a very big story that needs to get out. The FBI should have come out with details of the evidence beforehand in order to warn the government.

Now this is not to say that the Obama administration did not know about the bribes. In fact, most evidence is pointing towards then knowing well before the approval of the move. But this shows that Robert Mueller is in no position to be investigating Russian involvement with the presidential election.

What do you think about this evidence?

comment: Those who start witch hunts may find a crowd who suddenly turns on them and they wind up on the stake as well.

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Stop changing the subject, Med. Answer the question for once!

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Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

[QUOTE=Technophobe]Hang on!  While I am waiting I thought you said this was about Hilary, Why are you suddenly talkking about Obama?

No, that was stupid of me, Answer the main question first.

If she is so guilty, why did Trump drop his promise to chase her until he could "Lock her up"?

Still waiting........................................


Obviously he has not dropped his promise, but it is up to Judicial branch to do the investigation and final resolution on this. 

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Ps. As you asked a question I will answer it. Not that you will pay any attention.  You continue to repeat things that have been answered and disproven.  So either you do not read other's posts or do not understand them.

There is a third possibility, that you just ignore them.  If you can ignore a tide of human disease and misery http://www.avianflutalk.com/chump-drives-health-premiums-up-40_topic36762_post266588.html?KW=#266588 then maybe the truth is as easy to ignore.

However, what I thought of your evidence: from untrustworthy sources, irrelevant and two wrongs do not make a right.

Honestly, it could be true, not at all likely, but possible.  If Trump was to prosecute Hilary I would believe it then.  After all she is a politician - and that is automatically suspect.  But, without an active prosecution, from a President (most powerful guy) FROM THE OPPOSING SIDE, WHO APPARENTLY HATES HER, I can only conclude that it is very, very, very probably (7sigma for the mathematicians) untrue.

Which leads me back to my own question.  I'm still waiting..............
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recycled rehashed story ???

Trump tries to change the subject from 'he knew what he signed up for' to uranium
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/19/1708104/-Trump-tries-to-change-the-subject-from-he-knew-what-he-signed-up-for-to-uranium

Yes, it’s a recycled story from early 2015 that was too weak for its author to successfully defend on Fox News but which The Hill has semi-revived with a story having absolutely zero to do with Hillary Clinton and which Fox News was, of course, talking about this morning. What we’ve known all along is that the big scandalous uranium deal that Trump is desperate to keep talking about was signed off on by nine U.S. agencies and the Canadian government, and that while the State Department was one of the nine U.S. agencies, Clinton wasn’t personally involved in the decision.

Trump's Presidency is FAILING at virtually every turn
he DESPERATELY needs DISTRACTIONS
this isn't the first and won't be the last

and still two of the MOST prominent right wing sites still have little if anything to say on
this "scandal"
VERY curious indeed
you would think they would be tearing into Clinton big time
but nothing but crickets chirping.....
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If there were any real evidence, the judiciary would be prosecuting the Clintons.  Unless, of course, the-man-in-charge told them not to, especially as he appointed several new top brass in that field.  As the-man-in-charge hates Hilary, there must be none.  He did say he would not be prosecuting her.  If you know more than that, prove it by answering the question.








.............................  Still waiting.............................


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Putting it another way, If Trump goes on and on in the media, accusing Hilary of dodgy dealings , it is a great and apparently very effective, smoke screen for his own dirty dealings.  "A great way to change the subject."  It does not have to be true, it just has to draw attention away.
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Still waiting........................................

While we are on this subject:

Technology is now emerging that can produce increasingly convincing digital mimicry of world leaders—just type in the words you want Obama, Trump, or the emir of Qatar to say, and they appear in a convincing-looking video. That would make fake news much more potent and harder to debunk.


How else do you think Disney make the animals talk?  They don't do it in real life..

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Putting it another way, If Trump goes on and on in the media, accusing Hilary of dodgy dealings , it is a great and apparently very effective, smoke screen for his own dirty dealings.  "A great way to change the subject."  It does not have to be true, it just has to draw attention away.

He's freakin' President now!  If he wanted to prove Obama was born in Kenya, or wire-tapped him, or that Obama teamed up with Hillary to jigger bids for Russian uranium, he has unlimited power to do so. 

There ain't no "there" there as we Yanks say.  He should STFU. 
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More and more I am hearing what I posted earlier on this restated - sometimes the exact phrases - "pay for play" and this is too significant to be shoved under the rug. Judge Jeanine says so clearly what I have been saying all along.

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Uranium is NOT the base ingredient of a nuclear bomb.  Enriched uranium is.  


That might sound like a splitting of hairs, but it is just not so.  Enriching uranium is a very specialist process involving complex and deeply technical/scientific knowledge requiring specialist billion dollar centrifuges.  Unenriched uranium is just the metal extracted from the natural ore pitchblende.

These newscasters can be forgiven for not understanding the difference; you do need a modicum of scientific knowledge for that.

To be honest, I have watched 35 seconds so far and I can't be bothered to watch the rest of the video.  They can't be expected to get the science right if they are not scientists................... or can they?  Isn't it a journalist's job to check their facts?  Well, apparently not, if you just want to convince people of untruths, or half truths.  It does convince me that the rest of the video will be as inaccurate.

So back to my original question, Med.  I am still waiting for an answer.


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this show is well worth watching, 

where is the most pure form of uranium found..........

yes folks down here in Sunny Australia...............

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I cant get that link, Carbon.  Is this it?   http://www.pbs.org/show/uranium-twisting-dragons-tail/
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