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meewee
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How's your corner on the market of TP doing Albert?
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God Bless us all!
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I think I might be done.
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trisharp
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Albert,
I catching up to you....@ 7.25 months of TP.
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MRE's for 4 people for a year. A bit light on TP, though. I have been wiping twice each day, in case I'm unable to later. |
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RicheeRich
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I'm very pleased with the outcome of the above survey up to now. 90 Days of supplies is quite a feat, especially for first-time survivalists. I would attribute the nice high level to this board. Nice work at providing peer pressure that is stronger than that of the non-believers !!!! |
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Steve
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I just went to Smart & Final and bought all the TP they had. Plus I also bought lot's of canned goods. I think I'm at about 2,000 rolls of TP now for me and my family. LOL Albert what are you going to do to generate energy or heat?
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Trigger
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WOW!!! Someone has aotdone Albert on TP. I thought that would never happen.
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HI there to everyone, I live in the UK,in Wales.Have a partner,Sean and a 2 year old son,Jake.Just wanted to introduce myself and let you know i'll be on this board daily now! I've been checking news several times a day for the past few weeks re. bird flu-my partner and i first had "warning bells" when i read an article about it over a year ago.Ever since it's been picking up pace the last few weeks,we have started dicussing the likely outcome and after a long talk yesterday I today started bulk buying shopping.I'm thinking of getting in about 6 months supply of food and household goods,and then there are things like torches,radio,batteries,blankets etc etc.I did feel a tad silly furtively racing around Lidl's and Tesco buying 100 cans of food,but i know it is worth being prepared instead of sitting here with bare cupboars while the supermarkets have been emptied due to mass panic the same day we first hear official news of one human being having caught it off another. this a fantastic,comprehensive site,can't wait to get reading. |
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I'm glad you found your way here pixie! |
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merrittjohn
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With four hungry kids to feed I bought lots of peanut butter. Easy to eat and lots of calories and protein. For Jam I went and bought a case of quart mason jars, lots of sugar and Surejell and several big bags of frozen berries (good price at Gordon Food Service)... and made my own. Don't need to pressure can jams... water bath is good enough. There are directions inside the box of Surejell.... follow them exactly if you want jam... otherwise you get a quart of berry pancake syrup.... which is good too. I ordered my powdered eggs from GFS also. Toilet paper can be easily stored in the attic or on a board across the garage rafters. I wasn't sure what to collect rainwater in if the water fails (which I don't think will happen)... but for $20 I bought an inflatable kids pool. I will run the downspout of my gutters into it and treat it with Clorox overnight before transfering it to gallon milk jugs that I've been saving. My local Costco has tinned corn beef from Brazil for .99 / pound. I bought all 135# they had on the shelf. I think it's important to understand that with our "just in time" economic system that stores really don't have any built in excess capacity. The whole system is arranged so that on average a days food is delivered to the store every day (logical as otherwise they'd either run out or have too much inventory. But what this means is that there is NO WAY that alot of people can stock up at once. The whole (very long) supply chain is designed for perfect efficiency.... which is great for the stores bottom line... but is fundamentally incapable of handling any kind of surge. Bottom line: don't wait till everyone suddenly has the same idea as you..... you won't be able to find a parking place much less any food on the shelf. John.
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Hi what use is cooking oil? Ok I know you fry stuff with it.. like chicken. Well w/ no ref and no power I am having a hard time justifing the purchase to "she who must be obeyed" Help!
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AmMan
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Here where I live, no one is prepping as far as I know. It seems that
disaster planning is a western thing and not something anyone here even
thinks about. I guess it's the fatalism or maybe just the economy or
both. I applaude your diligence in this area and I think it's like one
man said, "I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not
have it." Good prepping to you all from Bulgaria!
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libbyalex
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AmMan -- Glad to hear your voice from Bulgaria. We'll be glad to hear any news you might have. -- Libby
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Angel
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My advice would be to go out asap and buy as much Clorox and Clorox wipe that you can afford. I feel that once birds start dying here in the US these items will be the first thing to go. I think people at first will disinfect before stocking up on food if the pandemic hasn't started. Once the migration begins and the birds come up from the south the bird deaths will happen very quickly and people will panic and begin to disinfect everything outside of their homes. |
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KatDoe67
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Stormriderfla, I use corn oil in almost ALL my baking. I make bread, biscuits, pancakes, cake, pie crust and just about everything except for cookies with it. I buy it by the jug, and just a little margerine or butter, and no other fats. I can't afford a little of this and a little of that. I can only afford to buy food in bulk at the cheapest prices possible and then have to adapt my cooking to what I have.
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KatDoe67
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You are greasing the pan with pam, right, not using it as an ingredient? What fats are you using as an INGREDIENT in your baking. Are you just using mixes or frozen baked goods? Cookies need to be made with a solid fat like shortening, lard, butter or margerine. Pie crusts can be made with oil if you add a little baking powder. Cakes and breads can usually just have the solid fat replaced with oil without any other adjustments to the recipe. As I said all our foods are cooked from scratch from the most basic of ingredients. I'm assuming you don't do that :-) Who is "she who must be obeyed"? Unless you make the big bucks, stocking up on food will require you to change the way you cook and eat, unless you intend to throw it all away if you don't need it. I originally had to change the way we eat because hubby wanted to hold onto his business LONG after he should have folded up. I had to learn to feed us on less than $50.00 a week. Stocking up at this point requires little more han buying more of what we have already been eating. Kat |
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Hi. She who must be obeyed is my wife, after 17 yrs I finally realized that I'm only the grand figurehead of the family. She uses butter in the cooking, yes your assumption of my cooking skills was corrrect.... And I am having a hard time justifing 10 gallons of cooking oil. I won't buy that much but I want enough for 6 mos. So I need a rough estimate of what might be used so when I plead my case I sound smart. -Kevin Edited by stormriderfla |
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KatDoe67
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Well, cooking oil and shortening are your best bets for long storage without refrigeration. Shortening last longer and produces better baked goods, but will clog your arteries and is more expensive. I prefer to use corn oil whenever possible, and when I have refrigeration and can afford it, I try to keep a little butter for the occasional cookie. I usually make biscotti cookies that use 3 eggs and just 1/4 cup of butter for the fat, as our main cookie. Sometimes I'll buy some inexpensive margerine on sale and make a big batch of cookies, but generally desserts are simple snack cakes made with corn oil or cinnamon rolls. If BF hits, I might buy some shortening, as biscotti will no longer be practical :-0 I won't add that into our daily diet though, unless something DEFINATE happens close to home. It's a LOT harder for people who are used to extravagent and quick meals to prep. I haven't had to make that many changes :-0 I've made a few, but mostly if BF (or any other emergency hits) we will be eating a lot of the same stuff. We'll miss the hamburg, chicken and eggs and eat more tuna, vienna sausages and ham...and start eating shortening...but that's about it :-0 Good luck!!! |
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fritz
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HI St.R.Fl. & KD, Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in...... I don't buy shortning bc I think it's just a gross blob of cholesterol. I do have several cans of Pam stored b/c we use it all the time. I think Canola oil is a much better choice of oil than Corn oil from a cardiovascular point of view and many times it's on sale for exactly the same price as the corn oil. I have several gallons stored to date. Some in my basement and some in the cold garage and some in my fridge in the garage. The problem with oil is that it doesn't store well for very long periods of time.(making it a very good item to put on your last minute prep list) If you can put it in the freezer or fridge that is the only way to slow down the spoiling process that I know. Ofcourse it will be sealed up and if not in a can, you can wrap w/ allum foil to keep out the light. I store my everyday olive & canola oil in the fridge. Olive becomes solid but will become liquid in 10-15 minutes if left out on the counter or you can put the bottle in some warm water to speed the process to use quicker. In the books I've read cooking oil is a very prized pocession and probably an item that most last minute preppers will overlook. The deal is that you can't really cook anything w/o burning it w/o at least a little bit of grease. I like popcorn so I would need it for that and how would you cook your newly acquired powdered eggs w/o pam or a little oil? BTW, you might want to get the book Cookin' with Powdered Eggs by Peggy Layton b/c I think they are a little tricky to work with. I have 'em but I haven't wanted to open . I a can - too expensive . I opened a can of FD broccoli and it's kind of like tiny tiny florets in green powder. But it is broccoli. The first book I got by Peggy Layton was Cookin' with Home Storage. I think it's a very good first book to get if your new to dealing with FD & dehyd. food. In her book she states under Gen. Pre. Tips........"Cookiing oil is an extremely important item to have in your storage program. It adds calories and flavor and it is very hard to cook without. Oil makes a great barter item." Hope this helps. Dont mean to come off as a know it all. Far from it. ps Olive oil is a geat heart healthy choice too. but it does add a flavor that I think can overpower some foods. A good choice with savory or Italian cooking but not for baking or making eggs. IMHO. |
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"I am only one; but still I am one, I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do." -- Hellen Keller
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My 2 cents regarding Canola oil. From what I have learned Canola oil "bad for you", if you know what it is. There is no such thing as a canola plant. Canola oil was used as an manufacturing lubricant in Canada. All Canola means is Canada Oil. It is made from Rape seed /Rape Plant pronounced "rap". You will also find it in peanut butter. It's poison as far as i'm concerned. I eat a little as possible. Do some research for yourself. You decide. If you can find info to prove me wrong please let me know as I only assume ,opps, my source was correct. |
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KatDoe67
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I've heard lots of bad stuff about Canola oil too, but am not sure what to believe. I know I tolerate corn well, so feel fairly safe with corn oil. I used to only eat butter and cold pressed olive and nut oils, but when finances got REALLY bad for awhile, I decided corn oil was our best option. I believe corn is the oil that is sent to famine ridden countries as their only source of fat, and that played into my decision as it is the main source of fat for my family. We eat very little prepared foods or take out. Doctors tell me my cholesterol levels are unusual. My bad cholesterol is normal, but my good cholesterol is SKY high :-0 I think it's from all the corn oil :-0 THey tell me it's fantastic, but I don't think they know for sure, since only a significantly insignificant percentage of people have cholesterol levels like mine :-0 It's certainly true that we are what we eat! Fritz you did not come off as a know it all! We all need to post what we know. I'm sure there are as many lurkers as there are signed up members. We need to post info for those silent people not asking questions, but who are reading! Fat is EXTREMELY important. Americans who are battling obesity are quite uninformed about the need for fat to prevent starvation. I was born into a wealthy family, but my parents battled substance abuse and I spent part of my childhood dealing with homelessness and hunger. Believe me, children especially NEED fat!! My brother and I are both in our late 30s and we still talk about a meal of cabbage fried in Crisco and how it kept us going till the next morning and how thankful we were for that Crisco that was added to the otherwise fairly useless cabbage. This was in 1980 and it's one of our clearest childhood memories. We were SO hungry that summer :-( And Fritz, I LOVE popcorn! I bought two jars of Orville's today :-) Yup need oil for the popcorn :-) |
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fritz
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Albert, so what is it that made you smile today?? Hit a big sale? or do you like popcorn too? :>} |
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"I am only one; but still I am one, I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do." -- Hellen Keller
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I'm pretty sure we have about three months of food for two people. I've been buying extra food every week. DH doesn't like beans but he's gonna learn to eat them before this is all over. He cringes everytime I come home from the store with another bag of beans. I'm sure he'll thank me one day.
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Don't put off tomorrow what you can PREP today
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fritz
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If you're buying lots of bags of beans I hope you're buying alot of water too to soak and cook'em in, you'll need it!! Stock up on some cans too, they are ready to eat, nice and easy. Best of luck. :>} |
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"I am only one; but still I am one, I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do." -- Hellen Keller
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Albert, Can the pole be reset - probably most people's vote is obsolete per what they originally voted as people continue to prep. |
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A solid six months on most everything. It will keep growing untill it can't be done any more. Some things we have a years worth and somethings not enough. I just think through what I would need for my family. Planning on sharing with some friends and neighbors. Networked with half a dozen people in my area. The ones that were Y2K'ers ( is that a word?) are close to being ready. We have scanners, 2 meter 440s radios solar power for just the electronics and led lights. don't forget comfort foods. A little chocolate can really help your mood! I think alot of what is going to happen will fall in the catagory of unintended consequences. Supplies might not be in such short supply if half the population dies. Just a thought. |
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A Bible verse that is just perfect...... for the situation. |
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Yesterday
I was in WalMart and I noticed there was only a few bottle of
Clorox...the shelf was empty. Odd of WalMart, their shelves are
never empty. Maybe just a consequence.
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I saw the same thing at dollar store, but not at freds, 1/2 mile from it??????
But fred is 14 cents higher on it. |
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I was at Walmart last night And what I noticed was that there was hardly any bottled water! I think people might be starting to stock up. They were also low on TP and airbourne.
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I have a question. Today I was watching ABC's Today show and they were suggesting that American's stock up on canned tuna and powdered milk. I never thought about powdered milk until now. Does anyone know how much powdered milk cost and how long the shelf life is on it?
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Hi. There are two types of powdered milk I have found. 1. no fat carnation, 2. Albertsons (Fl grocery store chain) regular powdered milk. They both have shelf lives of about 6 mos. it's on the box. I'm freezing some of the boxes as a "just in case" The wife doesn't like the idea of freezer use for non food items we have really good discusions. -Kevin
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Stormriderfla, How long is the powedered milk good for if you freeze it? I think thats a good idea but won't the powder get moist? |
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Hi Keegs2 http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/foods/348-960/348-960.html http://www.moomilk.com/archive/tech_34.htm Good point. Here are 2l inks on milk storage. The .edu I give more value to, as I am a teacher, and we do stuff like this to survive in the teaching world.. -K
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Stormriderfla, Wouldn't it cut the shelf life if you stuck the dry milk in the freezer? I am just thinking that because it shortened it when put in the refrigerator. |
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Why not? I freeze milk all the time, just make sure you give it a good shaking once it's thawed. I am now doing eggs. Works good too.
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Hi I spoke with the folks at carnation and their recomendations for freezing powdered milk, here's what I got....don't freeze it. The shelf life is a year from mfg to maintain the highest quality. Go figure. I will still freeze several boxes because I'm just darn stubborn, it's a guy thing. |
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