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WTF? Texas is underwater and GOP eyeing nearly $1B disaster funds cut to help build Trump's wall

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/30/1694650/-WTF-Texas-is-underwater-and-GOP-eyeing-nearly-1B-disaster-funds-cut-to-help-build-Trump-s-wall

maybe we should make the Mexicans pay for hurricane clean up ?
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after they finish paying for "the wall "LOL
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Pete Souza's latest Instagram reminds Donald Trump how presidents should act during disasters


https://www.yahoo.com/news/pete-souza-apos-latest-instagram-143250504.html

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unlike all the other prez's, Trump came with ALL the needed heads of the depts that would be needed to get the info from the "on the ground" guys/gals so they could get to work ASAP.  He's been lauded by the governor of Texas over and over for being so prepared and having everything in place and ready to go BEFORE Harvey hit AND for the coordination and communication between local, state and federal groups.

Did he inherit some of this from those who came before him, probably, but not ALL of it.  Just give him credit for what he does right and stop nit picking and trying to find everything wrong with him.

I hated Bill Clinton and Obama but I did give them credit when it was due.  ie Bill Clinton actually worked with the GOP in congress to pass Newt's Contract with America. 

I can't think of anything positive that Obama did however... the whole eight years... not one thing.

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"I can't think of anything positive that Obama did however... the whole eight years... not one thing."

well he fixed FEMA for one thingLOL
and when Obama took office
the economy had slid into the greatest financial collapse since the Great Depression
we were losing HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of jobs EVERY month
when he left the economy was producing 150,00-225,000 jobs every month on average
the stock market was at 8,000 give or take
when he left it was hovering around 20,000
and theres more.........................................................................................................................
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Trumps failed environmental policies are going to make things like this even more common

'No way to prevent' potential chemical plant explosion near Houston, Arkema CEO says

http://abcnews.go.com/US/risk-chemical-plant-explosion-houston-prompts-evacuation-harvey/story?id=49521170

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I am glad to hear that Trump and his administration set plans in place to help Houston before the Hurricane hit. 

Looking at the disaster images it does not seem to have worked very well.  I could be wrong, it might have been even worse had he not prepared beforehand.  I don't think I have misread it but, who knows?

As for the comments of Houston's Governor....  You don't insult the guy you are asking for help, even if you want to strangle him for being so slow, callous and miserly.
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Hurricane WILMA
Trump Scores a WinLOL

Trump Bilked The Government For $17 Million In ‘Repairs’ During Hurricane Wilma

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/trump-bilked-government-17-million-repairs



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Trump order undermines rebuilding better for future floods

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-actions-undermine-building-stronger-203259306.html


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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Two weeks before Harvey's flood waters engulfed much of Houston, President Donald Trump quietly rolled back an order by his predecessor that would have made it easier for storm-ravaged communities to use federal emergency aid to rebuild bridges, roads and other structures so they can better withstand future disasters.

Now, with much of the nation's fourth-largest city underwater, Trump's move has new resonance. Critics note the president's order could force Houston and other cities to rebuild hospitals and highways in the same way and in the same flood-prone areas."


I've got to stop

I could literally do this ALL day

shooting fish in a barrel would be more of a challenge

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I guess you could call me a "Friend of the Swamp"....I'm not an employee of the federal bureaucracy, but I serve as their subject matter expert on all sorts of bioterrorism and cybersecurity stuff.  

The simple fact is that Trump's border wall is dead....Congress will never, ever appropriate that kind of money when the Flood Insurance program is broke, Texas is on its knees begging for reconstruction aid, and other needs are pressing. 

Pres. Trump didn't cause Houston to happen, that was the result of decades of poor urban planning, ignoring the inevitable climate change consequences (get ready for more of the same), and stonewalling on infrastructure while pursuing political goals from both sides.  

Given all of this, I'd enjoy Pres. Trump acknowledging that climate change is NOT a Chinese plot, and see him take some leadership on the issue.  I don't have high hopes for this however.  
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Love. Fact#2....lol
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Sadly, referring to fact #2, life is even harder when your President is stupid.
"Climate change is a myth."


Our wonderful Chuck has pointed out that there are several high-level biosecurity labs in the flood zone, 

A peroxide manufacturing plant has just exploded, destroyed by the flood waters.

 That level of flooding across two states has to be followed by disease,  The vast majority of Americans are not stupid enough to drink flood waters, so any chance of cholera is both slight and limited in scope. but what about zika, malaria and a host of other water-borne insect/paracitic stuff?  Most of those don't need to be injested.  

If that is not scary enough, the climate change, which is claimed to be "a hoax" by Trump and his entourage of science denying idiots, will bring weather like this and worse more and more frequently.*  

Once upon a time "Darwin awards"** were a personal thing.  Sadly this may grow over the years to be the biggest case of death-through-stupidity in human history.

*Hot air moves more quickly and holds more water.
**Darwin awards are given to those who improve the overall intelligence of the human race by removing themselves from the gene pool.
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Satori - One of our biggest problems is "you can't fix stupid"!
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Boy aint that the truth, Arirish!!!!  Wouldn't it be great if we could?  I would end up posting a lot less often.


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hmmm
I'm starting to think  that Texas is "home to teh stoopid" ???
(and people think its California ?LOL )

don't like all those pesky regulations ?

fine

NOW

its time to pay the piper

and pay and pay and PAY

The Texas Time Bomb has Detonated: Business Friendly = People Expendable.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/31/1694958/-The-Texas-Time-Bomb-has-Detonated-Business-Friendly-People-Expendable
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It sometimes amazes me how a day after I post things and rant - the same rants appear on the mainstream in places.  I thought to myself watching Fox News this morning and Hannity - well good - someone read what I said.

Also through my mind went the phrase - God help me to change the things I can, accept the things I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference.

There have been moments I have considered not even reading the mainstream media at all and wondered if people could get by with alternate sources to keep up on what is happening. I have to admit Hannity - you being a professional - you did this much better than I ever could - and the dings as the left continued to make truly stupid statements in the face of the reality of a Trump whose basis of getting elected was that he cared for the common people and workers that had been forgotten by special interest groups and congress people. Forget Fox's made up poll of over 50% whining about Trump. We saw their polls all during the election taken by clearly not an accurate sample of the voters.  They were wrong. When they kind find a poll that agrees with them, they do one.

Even so, a moment of respect for Fox for putting out the Real News this morning.

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Just because he says he cares about people does not mean Trump actually does, Med.  

I'm sorry there were three two syllable words in that sentence and one three syllable one.  I will try again.  

Trump lies. He loves cash not folk.  There is proof of this, but I need to use long words to tell how,

Long words:  bankruptcy = not got to pay debts
                   medicaid = treat poor sick folks who have no cash
Diverting funds = take cash from aid for floods and put it in to wall to keep some folk out
Zenophobia = folk like me good, folk not look like me bad.
publicity = Say what makes me look good
humanitarian = what Trump wants to look like
Christian = follows Christ, tries to love all folk
Hypocrite = says one thing means or does other things
Propaganda = tell lies to fool folk like tweets, or twist truth to fool folk like Fox news.

Now you know what the words mean, you can work out what I said in other posts.  

Does it help to have it in small words?
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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Just because he says he cares about people does not mean Trump actually does, Med.  

I'm sorry there were three two syllable words in that sentence and one three syllable one.  I will try again.  

Trump lies. He loves cash not folk.  There is proof of this, but I need to use long words to tell how,

Long words:  bankruptcy = not got to pay debts
                   medicaid = treat poor sick folks who have no cash
Diverting funds = take cash from aid for floods and put it in to wall to keep some folk out
Zenophobia = folk like me good, folk not look like me bad.
publicity = Say what makes me look good
humanitarian = what Trump wants to look like
Christian = follows Christ, tries to love all folk
Hypocrite = says one thing means or does other things
Propaganda = tell lies to fool folk like tweets, or twist truth to fool folk like Fox news.

Now you know what the words mean, you can work out what I said in other posts.  

Does it help to have it in small words?


Small words are always good as in "Actions speak louder than words".

or "head in the sand" as in ostrich.

For eight years we have endured millions of words and very little help for the American people. Despite the continued ramblings, the approval rate for Congress is 15%.  This is where the problem lies and where it needs to be solved. This takes money and yet we need a reduction in taxes for the middle class. We have a media who is giving us false information and selectively ignoring significant reality.

What has happened is people have gotten elected on the platform of being champions for special interest groups, certain races, gender, and alternate life styles. This got them votes and promoted them to their level of incompetence.  We have congress people and senators who are not qualified to run a business, are not well educated, and shameless represent minorities and immigrants versus the American people as a whole. Government is a business and if not well run - people suffer.

We can drain the swamp but still the critters won't leave. At least we can put them to work and shame them into doing what is right for Americans or they will gain zero seats in Congress next year. 

50% of Americans voted for Trump.  All the Trump bashing which will never end and accusations of how he is this or that is not of any use or value to our country. This endless personal vendetta is futile. He is our president. We can support him and ask congress to work with him to better our country or the Democrats can lose all credibility, promote violence, ignorance, and anarchy and pout - or we can move on.

I would like to see us move on. For Congress to roll up their sleeves, pass bills to fix our medical system, taxes, immigration, and lighten up on businesses so they can hire more people. Wall Street is at all time high and even our jobless rate is down.

The press is oblivious as are the far left whose purpose in life is to hunt and destroy our President.

Despite the news and continuing efforts by people to destroy our country, it will get better. People will go back to work and make a living and get off welfare and food stamps. They will have pride in themselves, and their families, and have less time to rant and more money to spend and a better life.

The points that were made on the video I just posted were rock solid. The minds of people have been so manipulated and poisoned many will never see reality or know what is going on.

America was a disaster for 8 years. It is time that changed and we once more assumed the position of the greatest most powerful country on Earth. Obviously many other countries don't want that and will do anything they can to stir rebellion and dissent.

It isn't going to work.

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The ostrich point is well taken.  Did the plank hurt coming out?

As for the eight years, it really is that awful, but America's decline has been going on for far, far longer than that.  May I point out that congress is in the majority Republican currently.  Reducing middle class taxes would probably help the majority of Americans a bit.  Lowering the taxes of the super rich just benefits them and if you lower taxes across the board you have less money for social projects, disaster relief and, yes, wall building.  You do not have to be a Democrat to think Trump is wrong in much of his policies

Minority groups do try to influence government; so do any other groups.  Minority groups have a minor effect because they are in the minority.  That is how democracy works.  For what it is worth I personally hope they do even better in the influencing of government, as they are often picked on, being in the minority.  That bullying has been going on for more than 8 HUNDRED years, never mind just eight. It has probably gone on as long as there have been people.

I could not agree more about the swamp.  But, Trump will keep filling it up with more slimy creeps.  

50% of Americans did vote for Trump.  But all Americans have a constitutional right to free speech.  If they see through Trump, they have both a right and a moral duty to say so.  Many, many brave souls died to enshrine that right.  I could not disagree more with you on this point.  I understand that you can't or won't see it, but Trump is seriously damaging the country.  The Republican party has the majority in Congress, they do in all three houses.  The reason they block Trump's policies is because the majority, involving BOTH SIDES, can see the damage the policies would do.  Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are losing face here...............................  Guess who is.  The violence is wrong, no argument there, but it is not one sided.

Wish for what you want, Congress is democratic (I do not mean Democrat driven, but majority ruled)  they block only those policies the majority see as a retrograde step.  These are mostly experienced politicians, not businessmen with no grasp of the subtelties.  Everyone wants the medical system fixed and the economy boosted, the disagreements come from the understanding of how to do it.  it is only too easy to make matters worse.

The far left almost certainly wants to tear America down.  The moderate left and the centrists, even the moderate right should not be confused with them.  That is either stupid or disingenuous.

Ranting is happening on both sides.  Most Presidents have managed to appease it by this point in their presidency.  Under Trump both sides are becoming louder and increasingly violent.  I do not believe that to be a coincidence, but a symptom of the dysfunction of his government.

All the media is biased.  INCLUDING FOX NEWS.  None of it, even the FOX news stuff is an outright lie or fabrication, unlike some of Trump's tweeting, but just like their opposite numbers on the anti-Trump side they will cherry-pick what they report.  Can you not see that the right-leaning watchers are being brainwashed too?  I am getting very tired of repeating this but: "IF YOU ONLY LOOK AT ONE SIDE, YOU CAN ONLY SEE ONE SIDE."

A few other countries, like North Korea for example, want to see America fall.  The vast majority want it to succeed, as it is a stabilizing force in the world. We worry that Trump is going to destroy it from within.
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some people think its just a matter of getting a job that gets you off welfare,

well its NOT, 

the cycle of welfare dependancey, starts with a good education and a good well balanced diet,

if your parents had non of that,and you are born into thats cycle then you have very lttle chance of

 ever being abe to learn,because with out good food and a heathy diet from

                                  BIRTH !!!!!!!!!!!!

brains and bodies dont develop the way they do with  a healthy DIET,

thats why a good FREE EDUCATION ,and a top notch WELFARE system are the only way a 

A country can move their population FORWARD,

AMERICA has nether of those and for a weathy "1st world country "that is a discrace

                               REAP  WHAT YOU SOW




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