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Great Free education system,

(UNTIL UNIVERSITY,after that the goverment gives you a loan (HECs)that you start paying back when your salalery reaches a set amount) ,

 a Free Medicare system that has NOTHING to do with "socialism",where does that exist ??

 AUSTRALIA .....the great south land.

my Mother lives in the UK , just had her 2nd set of New Knees, plus a new HIP , 

all done on the NATIONAL HEALTH system all done within 6 months of being diagnosed,

the National health system of UK has its faults, but if does look after its CITIZENS 

unlike CHRISTIAN AMERICA who seems to have forgotten the parable of 

                                           THE GOOD SAMARITIAN

I am an ATHIEST , but will ALWAYS HELP thoses less forfunate than I.............

and am happy to pay taxes to enable others to GET WELL , AND GET AN EDUCATION

but then i dont watch FOX NEWS......

and most of the problems in Texas and that will keep happening is the totally insane view that Climate Change isnt happening..........


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Australia has hottest winter on record as climate change drives long-term warming trend

The danger period for bushfires has moved a month forward into September because of the more arid conditions

australia-hottest-winter.jpgOver 200 weather records were broken in Australia during the summer of 2016, with extreme bushfires and heatwaves Reuters

The hottest winter ever has been recorded in Australia amid a "long-term warming trend" mostly caused by climate change, according to the country's Bureau of Meteorology.

Peak temperatures during the day were up by 1.9 degrees Celsius (3.4 Fahrenheit) on the long-term national average of 21.8C during the period between June and August.

Winter rainfall was also down to the least amount since 2002 and the ninth-lowest on record. Australia started charting the statistics in 1900 for rainfall and 1910 for temperatures.

"You have a long-term warming trend which is largely attributed to changing levels of greenhouse gases," the bureau's senior climatologist Blair Trewin told AFP.

"On top of that, to get an individual extreme year like this one, you also need the more general weather pattern to be favourable to warm conditions as well, as this year was."

The bureau also noted that 19 of Australia’s last 20 winters had seasonal top temperatures that averaged above the long-term national average.

Meteorologist Greg Browning said it was "basically this background warming signal that we're seeing right across the globe associated with global warming".

Victoria was faced with the driest winter in more than 10 years, with rainfall “significantly below average,” Mr Trewin told the Herald Sun.

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      More than 200 weather records were broken during the summer of 2016, with extreme bushfires, heatwaves and flooding.

      Australia has warmed by around one degree Celsius since 1910, weather bureau and national science body CSIRO reported.

      New South Wales’s Rural Fire Service is bringing forward its bushfire danger period to September, a month earlier because of the hotter and more arid conditions.

      Research published in Nature Climate Change last week stated that hotter, drier conditions would increase in frequency even if global warming was kept to the Paris Climate Summit target of 1.5C.

      The study warned it would be harder to tackle drought events and wildfires.

      The highest-ever recorded temperature in Australia was 50.7C (123.3 F) in Oodnadatta on 2 January 1960.

      A firefighting Hercules C-130 plane, dubbed ‘Thor’, has returned to Richmond airbase in Sydney from the United States, to prepare for the country's bushfire season. The aircraft is capable of dropping 15,000 litres of water or fire retardant. 

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      Speaking of heat, it topped out at 108 where I'm working, and it's still 102 at seven o'clock at night. The sun went down already - really?
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      "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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      the Whole world is experencing once in 500/1000 years extreme weather events,

      i suppose when these EVENTS are every month then people will get the idea  that the Planet is in trouble and we are the cause........

       its to late Now,

       never mind when the deniers get their heads out sand........
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      Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

      Speaking of heat, it topped out at 108 where I'm working, and it's still 102 at seven o'clock at night. The sun went down already - really?

      JD, are you in the San Francisco area?  I've read about their heat wave! 

      This is a sobering map:


      The setting sun in the Chicago area is an erie red due to the atmospheric particulates from fires in Canada and Alaska.  

      We are pretty well screwed all around, folks. 
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      Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Technophobe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2017 at 1:39am
      NC Girl, I agree that socialism does not work.  The far left never does.  Neither does the far right.  The left lets its heart rule its head and the right lets its head rule its heart.  The left bankrupts the country and the right bankrupts the little guy.  The muddled, moderate, mediocre middle is the path of least damage.

      Trump is no centrist.  I would place him somewhat right of Genghis Khan.  He is manipulative, bullying, and dishonest.  He demonstrates many of the character traits associated with the psychopath.  (The definition is not black and white but comes in a sliding scale.  Many CEOs classify as one on points average.  It makes them winners; it does not make them nice people.)  His publicity, or propaganda, is reminiscent of Goebbels' propaganda both before and during the formation of the Third Reich.  His media manipulation reminds me of Nixon (not the stuff they tried to impeach Nixon for, but his election winning media hype).  He has an ego so fragile he reacts with all the diplomacy of a charging bull if anyone crosses him.  Both his apparent racism and his obvious racial intolerance are disgusting and his lack of self control, considering the power of his position, is frankly terrifying.

      I live in a country which tries to occupy the center ground politically.  It is a tightrope and we tend to fall over one side or the other, but we spring back to the middle.  We are Smaller than one of America's states and yet we are one of the G8 (and the 5 eyes).  The American middle class is richer than the British one, but appears to live in perpetual fear of losing everything.  We live longer than you do on average and our medicine is free at the point of need for everyone.  

      When I was young and adventurous I contemplated living in several other Countries. America was on my research list.  I ended up staying here as our way of life  was preferable.  Now I am older, weaker and have a disabled son, I am profoundly glad I stayed.  I believe in the right to bear arms, but am very happy I did not chose to pay the price of living there to get it.  I understand and share the American love of freedom and know that rampant socialism removes it from the people.  It may surprise you to learn that rampant right wing politics does too, it just does it by reducing people to poverty instead of legislating their rights away.  Poverty is more restrictive of freedom than prison or a gulag.  Both are effectively nasty for the people.  If you are one of the super-rich then right wing politics probably does work for you.  If your conscience can take milking so  much from those who are poorer, a typical CEO approach. But, there are precious few super-rich and many, many much poorer.  Taking a strongly right wing approach stems from either a lack of care for your fellow man, or a failure to understand the consequences of one's actions.  'And Trump is lying about those consequences.

      I can't comment on Canada.  I have never been there and the one Canadian I used to talk to (Germ Nerd) has disappeared off of the radar.
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      San Diego, Chuck. East County specifically. It does get pretty hot out there, but this heatwave is particularly brutal and expected to last a while. It's pretty windy too, which is making the risk of wildfires that much greater.
      NorCal is getting it pretty bad too. When we drove to Oregon for the solar eclipse, it was hovering around the high 90s as we got to the northern end of the Central Valley, and the forecast was for even warmer weather.


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      After a devastating hurricane, Trump still picks a climate science denier to head NASA


      http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2017/09/after-devastating-hurricane-trump-still.html


      Trump scores a "win" ???


      the country scores a LOSS

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      Wonder what Chump will do,/say about Irma...........
      no such thing as Climate Change....
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      Wake up fool.....its real and happening NOW!!!!
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      Hurricane Irma Is Now The Most Powerful Hurricane Ever Measured By Satellite In The Atlantic Ocean

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/5/1696283/-Hurricane-Irma-Is-Now-The-Most-Powerful-Hurricane-Ever-Measured-By-Satellite-In-The-Atlantic-Ocean

      "Irma has intensified to a “potentially catastrophic” Category 5 storm. The hurricane is packing winds of a whopping 185 miles per hour, making it the most powerful hurricane to form in the Atlantic Ocean since satellite observations began."


      winds of 185 MPH ??? Ouch

      yeah climate change deniers
      there's nothing going on

      "unprecedented" this
      "record setting" that
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      Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

      Hurricane Irma Is Now The Most Powerful Hurricane Ever Measured By Satellite In The Atlantic Ocean

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/5/1696283/-Hurricane-Irma-Is-Now-The-Most-Powerful-Hurricane-Ever-Measured-By-Satellite-In-The-Atlantic-Ocean

      "Irma has intensified to a “potentially catastrophic” Category 5 storm. The hurricane is packing winds of a whopping 185 miles per hour, making it the most powerful hurricane to form in the Atlantic Ocean since satellite observations began."


      winds of 185 MPH ??? Ouch

      yeah climate change deniers
      there's nothing going on

      "unprecedented" this
      "record setting" that

      Thanks, I've been watching it closely!!  

      I could easily see Irma snaking around past or over Florida into the Gulf of Mexico....and back into Houston!!  That is usually how Gulf hurricanes evolve (Harvey did that as well). 

      If Houston were to get nailed again, the effect would be as if the place were hit with a nuclear weapon - widespread and permanent destruction of infrastructure.  People would probably be smart enough to evacuate, but you never know. 

      Keep an eye on it!  
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      Thing is, what's around the corne......
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      for a while there it looked like Irma was definitely headed for the Gulf
      but in the past few hours it is now turning more northeastward
      at any rate looks like Florida is gonna get hit HARD

      http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/085048.shtml?cone
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      Hurricane Irma is HOW Big??


      https://www.redstate.com/terichristoph/2017/09/05/hurricane-irma-big/


      basically the size of the entire state of Ohio


      winds sustaining at 175mph

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      gusts up to 200 mph now

      AND

      a new tropical storm JOSE is following in the track of IRMA
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      Climate change.....nah....not happening!!!!!!
      ,once in a thousand year storms every year.....Mmmmm
      Maybe the science is RIGHT after all....
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      After Mexico experiences quake, hurricane, Trump offers no U.S. aid—or even condolences

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/13/1698016/-After-Mexico-experiences-quake-hurricane-Trump-offers-no-U-S-aid-or-even-condolences

      another FAILURE of leadership
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