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The difference between the Chinese and the rest of the world is they have long term strategies and we all don't. I heard a British radio show talking about China needing to import food because they now have too many people to feed, and they are so clever about it.

The Chinese have gone to some of the big farms in the UK and have said "we'll buy all you produce for the next 10 (15, 20 etc) years, and we'll pay you x amount (which is always a good price compared with the supermarkets) and all you have to do is grow and harvest it, we'll pick it up from your farm and take it from there. "

The farmers are delighted. It cuts their workload down, it increases their profits and takes away the worry of the price being altered by the supermarket at the last minute, and it guarantees them sales at a good price for years. 

The trouble is that the British have only just noticed and all of a sudden the farms that supermarkets bullied and relied on are saying "no thanks, we've sold elsewhere". It's predicted to cause a huge rise in the cost of food in the UK. 

The Chinese have formed similar trade agreements over here in NZ. As I say, the Chinese have long term strategies. In the Western world our politicians only think to the end of their term in office, and no further. 
Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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Quite apart from their economy riding high on a housing boom they've manufactured by building cities just to keep their construction industry busy, the Chinese are facing some major problems when their one child policy catches up with them. Even though two children was the norm in rural areas, enough families went with one child (and continue to do so despite the change in the law) that they'll be facing the prospect of a large retired population being supported by a much smaller workforce in a few years.
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http://video.foxnews.com/v/2995270399001/will-2014-end-wall-streets-party/?playlist_id=921261890001

Bust predicted despite Wall Street boom. 
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http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/futures-higher-2014s-full-trading-week-21431833

Now that the hype is cooling, real numbers are starting to appear.  The vote for extension of unemployment has been put off.

The Standard & Poor's 500 index notched its worst start to a year in almost a decade Monday, closing lower for the third straight trading day.

Although the declines for stocks in the New Year have been modest, the direction has been consistently down. The Standard & Poor's 500 index has fallen 1.2 percent from its most recent record close on Dec. 31.

The performance is a contrast to last year, when the S&P 500 surged almost 30 percent, its best annual gain since 1997. The banner year ended with the stock market climbing to record levels amid signs that the economy was strengthening.

"The market is basically looking for additional confirmation of economic strength and maybe marking time as it catches its breath from a pretty strong run at year-end," said Jim Russell, a regional investment director at US Bank.

The Standard & Poor's 500 fell 4.60 points, or 0.3 percent, to 1,826.77. The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 44.89, or 0.3 percent, to 16,425.10. The Nasdaq composite fell 18.23, or 0.4 percent, to 4,113.68.


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John Williams of Shadowstats.com predicts hyperinflation to start in 2014 and probably sooner rather than later in the year.

The 10 year bond yield has been hovering around 3% which I understand to be a bad sign as well. I've been more interested in this 10 year bond yield than I have the DOW lately.
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http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/01/24/stock-market-live-blog-another-triple-digit-dive-for-dow-emerging-markets-in-pain/

Stock market live blog: Dow drops over 250 points, S&P 500 below key level, Vix climbs



http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-wall-street-stock-market-down-20140124,0,5058890.story#axzz2rLZOvTNj

January 24, 2014, 10:13 a.m.

NEW YORK -- Stocks faced another broad selloff Friday as investors feared a slowdown in emerging markets and the Federal Reserve's move to scale back its easy-money policies.

The Dow Jones industrial average was down about 200 points in midday trading on Wall Street, following sharp drops in other major stock markets in Europe and Asia. 

The Dow at one point fell 203.56 points, or 1.3%, to 15,993.79 -- below the psychological milestone of 16,000 the index burst through during an epic rally last year.

The broader Standard & Poor's 500 index was off 25 points, or 1.4%, to 1,803.46. The technology-focused Nasdaq composite index was down 65.07, or 1.5%, to 4,153.80.

Investors, meanwhile, plowed into U.S. Treasury bonds. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury fell to 2.74%, off recent highs of around 3%.


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what does this thread have to do
with the flu?
Ouch

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The DOW closed down 318 points or 1.96%

Lots of people have been forecasting a big drop in the stock market for the first half of 2014. We've tapered down each month for the past 5 months and am glad we did.
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Originally posted by confused confused wrote:

what does this thread have to do
with the flu?
Ouch

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Confused - the general discussion section is usually more off topic that the news section, and covers a lot more than just influenza. You have to pick your way through the articles to the ones that interest you.
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Originally posted by confused confused wrote:

what does this thread have to do
with the flu?
Ouch

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Don't be confused, confused. The economy can have a huge effect on our ability to respond or prepare for a Pandemic. Preparation is a key part of dealing with the Flu. If we have a depression in the midst of a Flu spike, people won''t be able to get adequate health care, they won't have enough money to buy food, and they will become homeless placing them out in the streets during the Flu season.

This is like saying - what does an Ice Age or severe cold have to do with the Flu. A lot. This becomes very relevant if you become homeless and the outside temperature with wind chill -30 and you have no job because there are no jobs and companies fail and lay off their employees.

No money to pay the rent will make you homeless and no money to buy food will not help if you are infected with a high fever and need liquids and juice to fight the disease.

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I do not know how much it still goes on, but in America's past I believe that hoboes travelled widely across the continent, looking for work. This was largely ignored by the railroad companies who used the mobile labour very cheaply.

From the perspective of the virus, those behaviours would be an ideal method of spread.  Not only do the disenfranchised need to travel, but the hardships they suffer weaken their imune systems and create superb viral environments.  They become a collection of aerosolised petri dishes. 

The virus does not really care that the hosts have a short lifespan.  They are disposable, quickly replaced.
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Major Viruses and economic collapse go hand in hand. 

If the economy collapses people get sick. IE People can't access health care, feed themselves and are generally unhealthy etc.

If a virus strikes it can have a big effect on the markets. It happened with SARS, Bubonic plague etc 

This has been debated in the past and its relevant 
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Med, This may be it!!?? Dow futures tanking! Down 170...
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Business Insider ‏@businessinsider · 2 min
The global rally has completely collapsed [link to read.bi]


Zerohedge: We can't help but see the irony of this tumult and the possibility of a global financial meltdown occurring on the day of Bernanke's last FOMC meeting...


Which is today!

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OBAMA STEP CLOSER TO SEIZING RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS
Proposes in SOTU address T-bills for IRA, 401(k)

NEW YORK – When you hear, “Hello, I’m from the federal government and I want to help you manage your retirement savings,” the best advice is to run away, as fast as you can.



Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
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We are in a Post Bubble Economy - it is at this time when markets crash and crash and crash.

Read Irrational Exuberance by Robert Shiller.


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http://news.yahoo.com/treasury-39-lew-warns-u-default-could-happen-140809355--business.html

Treasury's Lew warns that U.S. default could happen quickly


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Obama administration warned on Monday it could start defaulting on the government's obligations "very soon" after it runs out of room to borrow under a legal cap on public debt.

Washington is due to reinstate a limit on its borrowing at the end of this week and Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said the administration can use accounting measures to stay under the new cap until the end of February.

After that time, "very soon it would not be possible to meet all of the obligations of the federal government," Lew said at an event hosted by the Bipartisan Policy Center, a prominent Washington think tank.

U.S. politicians now partake in a regular dance around the country's so-called debt limit. First, Congress authorizes spending that outstrips tax receipts. Then lawmakers balk over whether to OK enough borrowing to pay the bills. A rancorous debate ensues over putting public finances on a stable path.

Washington has danced perilously close to the edge of default several times since 2011, and this year some Republicans pledge to extract policy concessions from Democrats before they allow the debt limit to rise.

The administration has vowed not to negotiate on the matter, and Lew said public finances are in good enough shape that long-term fiscal problems don't have to be solved this year anyway.

Federal debt ballooned during the 2007-09 recession and most analysts think Washington's obligations to pay for health care for the elderly will stress the budget more as U.S. society ages.

But Lew said the sharp reduction in budget deficits over the last few years has bought America time to improve its fiscal outlook.

"I'm not sure this is the year for the long-term fiscal challenge to be dealt with," Lew said. "We have a little time to deal with the longer term."

It is unclear if Republicans, who are pressing for an overhaul of the government's health care obligations, will put up much of a fight over the debt ceiling. U.S. House Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, said last month American "shouldn't even get close to" default.

TAX REFUNDS

In October, Congress and the administration suspended a $16.7 trillion cap on borrowing until February 7. If the debt ceiling isn't raised by then, Treasury can juggle money between government accounts for a few weeks to keep just under the new limit.

Once it loses the ability to borrow, Treasury would pay its bills by relying on incoming revenue and any cash left in public coffers.

No one is sure when the money would run out and lead to missed payments on everything from Social Security pensions to interest on the national debt. Lew said the end of February is a particularly bad time to start relying on a cash cushion. This is because the government at that time is mailing out tax refunds, so the Treasury thinks it would burn through its remaining cash more quickly than it would at other times of the year.

Many economists think a U.S. default could trigger a financial panic and perhaps even an economic depression, and Lew urged lawmakers to act swiftly to raise the debt ceiling.

"Unnecessary delays or political posturing ... could snowball into a manufactured crisis," he said.

(Reporting by Jason Lange; Editing by Andrea Ricci)





What exactly does a default do? Aside from the short list of things mentioned near the end of the article?
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Perhaps through a great deal of manipulation the stock market has survived - but it appears there may be a major crisis coming.

https://joecruzmn.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/russian-stocks-crash-as-central-bank-scrambles-war-in-ukraine-a-global-financial-meltdown-and-obamas-planed-economic-war-on-russia/

THE DAILY BEAST: UPDATE: The Associated Press reported Monday that Russia is already suffering some economic consequences of its aggression in Ukraine. The Russian stock market is down 12 percent, the ruble is falling, and the Russian central bank has hiked interest rates in an attempt to shore up the value of its currency.

Behind the scenes, Obama administration officials are preparing a series of possible battle plans for a potential economic assault on Russia in response to its invasion of Ukraine, an administration source close to the issue told The Daily Beast. Among the possible targets for these financial attacks: everyone from high-ranking Russian military officials to government leaders to top businessmen to Russian

speaking separatists in Ukraine. It’s all part of the work to prepare an executive order now under consideration at the Obama administration’s highest levels

The question is- if we freeze Russian asset in American or implement harsh sanctions how will that effect the U.S. stock market? 

A SCARY 1929 PARALLEL, UKRAINE ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPSE, AND YELLEN SAYS THAT CONDITIONS FACING ECONOMY EXTREMELY UNUSUAL.

MARKETWATCH.COM: There are eerie parallels between the stock market’s recent behavior and how it behaved right before the 1929 crash.
That at least is the conclusion reached by a frightening chart that has been making the rounds on Wall Street. The chart superimposes the market’s recent performance on top of a plot of its gyrations in 1928 and 1929.
The picture isn’t pretty. And it’s not as easy as you might think to wriggle out from underneath the bearish significance of this chart READ MORE: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/scary-1929-market-chart-gains-traction-2014-02-11
RT.COM: The worsening political and economic circumstances in Ukraine has prompted the Fitch Ratings agency to downgrade Ukrainian debt from B to a pre–default level CCC. This is lower than Greece, and Fitch warns of future financial instability.
“Intensification of political and economic stress is such that default on government debt becomes probable,” Fitch said in an e-mail.
On the brink of default, the Ukrainian economy has taken a further beating as protests drag on in the capital Kiev. Foreign debt is $140 billion, nearly 80 percent of the country’s gross domestic product READ MORE: http://rt.com/business/ukraine-default-fitch-downgrade-386/



comment: creepy wouldn't you say?  The pattern which proceeded the crash of 1929 seems to be running a mirror image of what is happening now.


conclusion: The economy is like a fine watch with intricate gears and something that should be protected.  The current administration seems to have an approach of gathering a handful of dust and slowly putting it in the open watch just to see what happens.

A desperate Russia is not a compliant Russia. First we say that Putin is a foreign policy guru and to help us in Syria and now as we appear to be so weak in foreign policy that that China is making land grabs, and Russia is going the same.  Our response - sanctions are unlikely to do it - and if they do, the backlash may cause our own economy to stumble and follow that nasty curve above downward.

We are floating in the air on a bubble of nothing and if any large bank crashes, 300 others may follow.

This is not going to take months. 

Is a crash imminent? It is a lot more imminent than when I started this thread. Watching and waiting.


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http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2014/10/09/wall-street-follows-rally-with-steep-selloff/

Stocks continued a volatile run Thursday as concerns over global growth ignited a sharp selloff.

Today’s Markets

The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed 334 points, or 2%, to 16659, the S&P 500 dropped 40.7 points, or 2.1%, to 1928, and the Nasdaq Composite fell 90.3 points, or 2%, to 4378.

Wall Street has been on a see-saw in recent weeks. On Tuesday, the Dow lost 272 points amid jitters over economic growth in Europe and elsewhere. The market bounced back a day later, with the Dow posting its biggest gain of the year, when the Federal Reserve indicated it would take global struggles into account when setting a timeline to raise interest rates.

On Thursday, concerns over global growth again cast a shadow over stocks. The Dow was down 345 points at its lowest level, the biggest intraday decline in 16 months.

“The fear factor is beginning to hit panic levels as worries about a worldwide economic slowdown become real, despite round after round of stimulus and central bank intervention,” Todd M. Schoenberger, president of J. Streicher Asset Management, said in an email.

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comment: although the Stock Market is nearly rigged not to fail and with so many reporting loopholes there will be a hit if this Ebola thing and the conflicts in the Middle East escalate any more.

Perhaps no as imminent as some once thought- it is unlikely either a Pandemic or War is going to do much for the stock market.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-09/last-time-it-was-crazy-stock-market-crashed I understand that central banks are running out of tricks to keep the stock-markets going. Q.E. Abenomics have made shares to bubbles. What goes up must come down, and not only in the US !
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This is not a new theme - and the possible collapse of the U.S. stock market has been coming for a long time. When I first predicted this I was told it could not happen but as the world economy looks bad and wall street is not at all healthy- it is possible.
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http://thesovereigninvestor.com/exclusives/stocks-economy-on-verge-of-collapse/?z=389596

August 14, 2015

Several noted economists and distinguished investors are warning of a 50% stock market crash.

Billionaire Carl Icahn, for example, recently threw up a red flag on national broadcast when he declared, “The public is walking into a trap again as they did in 2007.”

Unfortunately, Icahn’s warning is tame compared to his peers.

“U.S. stocks are now about 80% overvalued,” says Andrew Smithers, the chairman of Smithers & Co. He backs up his prediction using a ratio which proves that the only time in history stocks were this risky was 1929 and 1999. And we all know what happened next. Stocks fell by 89% and 50%, respectively.

Former congressman Ron Paul didn’t mince words either. He warns that the stock market’s “day of reckoning” is fast-approaching. When that day comes, he doesn’t think it’s just going to be a correction, it will be “stock market chaos.”

But there is one distinct warning that should send chills down your spine … that of James Dale Davidson.

As a renowned economist, best-selling author, and founder of Strategic Investment, Davidson makes the strongest case for a looming crisis — “Right now, there are three key economic indicators screaming SELL. They don’t imply that a 50% collapse is looming, it’s already at our doorstep.”

However, it’s not just a 50% stock market collapse that Davidson is warning about. He also predicts that “real estate will plummet by 40%, savings accounts will lose 30%, and unemployment will triple.” (To see Davidson’s research behind these predictions, click here.)

comment: We currently are approaching a new "head in the sand" awareness as we are seeing a sick market effect rippling through the world.  It is very bad in China and has been for some time. Greece is tottering on the wave of financial crisis and Japan is having real problems.

People are not confident in the way things are and are not prepared for this. Our money is invested heavily outside the U.S. and in ways with the current trade deficit and debt ceiling high above what it should be, we are living on a dollar that is floating in the air.

Eventually, things must correct themselves. We cannot continue to support all of the social programs, retirement, social security, and the huge drain as our borders have failed to control immigration.

Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it.

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http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy-policy/2015/08/20/futures-slump-as-investors-continue-to-parse-fed-minutes/?intcmp=hplnws

Global-growth concerns with the backdrop of the Fed’s latest meeting minutes ignited a selloff on Wall Street Thursday as U.S. stocks followed global markets lower.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average sank 358 points, or 2.06% to 169901. The S&P 500 shed 43 points, or 2.10% to 2035, while the Nasdaq Composite plunged 141 points, or 2.82% to 4877.

All ten S&P 500 sectors were in negative territory as consumer discretionary lead the way. The sector plunged 2.80% to close the session.

Today’s Markets

Wall Street suffered steep losses amid a global market selloff as the Dow fell below the psychologically-significant 17000 mark, and the lowest level since October 30. Traders in the U.S. fretted about global growth and what a slowdown could mean for the Federal Reserve’s decision about when to begin hiking short-term interest rates.

Media and social stocks were slammed during the session as big names in the space including Disney (DIS), Time Warner (TWX), and Twitter (TWTR) came under intense selling pressure on the back of a downgrade for Disney and Time Warner to “market perform” from “outperform” from Bernstein thanks to a decline in ad revenue.

Twitter shares plunged 6%, falling to a new all-time low of $25.92, that’s below the company’s $26 IPO price.

Volume on the session was about 7% above the one-month average.

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Wall Street plunged for a second-straight day, forcing all three major U.S. averages to give up their 2015 gains and causing the Dow to easily enter correction territory.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled 530 points, or 3.11% to 16462. The S&P 500 shed 64 points, or 3.17% to 1971, while the Nasdaq plunged 171 points, or 3.52% to 4706.

Technology and energy stocks took the biggest hit during the session, with the respective sectors dropping 4.21% and 3.48%.

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comment: One can hope this is only a correctional slide that will stop and right itself as stocks have become over valued and also are reacting to the impact of a possible world economic crash including China and Japan. We are so immersed with a huge trade deficit, a soaring unbalanced national debt, and political instability, that regulating and protecting the market is outdistancing simply raising or lowering  interest rates.


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http://www.profitconfidential.com/stock-market/stock-market-crash/

Remember, stock markets are only as strong as the companies within them. On the surface, all looks well, but it isn’t. That’s because the U.S. economy, while improving, is extremely vulnerable. So maybe the idea of a major stock market collapse or correction in 2015 isn’t that big of a stretch.

The U.S. unemployment rate may have slipped below the six-percent threshold, but a large number of Americans—roughly 12%—remain underemployed.(1) Wages have been flat and, perhaps not coincidently, approximately 15% of the U.S. population is on food stamps.(2)

Personal spending may be accelerating, but so too are debt levels. We may be spending, but we aren’t paying with cash. As the world’s biggest economy and largest consumer market, 71% of the country’s gross domestic product (GDP) came from consumer spending in 2013. All things considered, this is not a recipe for sustainable growth.

http://www.profitconfidential.com/economic-analysis/upcoming-stock-market-crash/

Despite the stock market’s record run and Washington’s assurances that the economy is getting better, some of America’s wealthiest billionaires aren’t convinced. In fact, their recent actions suggest some sort of market crash is on its way. Do they know something you don’t? Not really. The data is out there for everyone to see. Unfortunately, Wall Street is too busy ignoring the warning signs.

The stock market is supposed to be a reflection of the economy, but right now, it isn’t. That’s because most Americans aren’t even aware we’re in the midst of a recovery.

Not unlike the stock market, the U.S. economy looks good on paper. The U.S. unemployment rate is under six percent, interest rates are low, and the economy is picking up steam.(4)

Dig a little deeper, though, and you’ll discover that the underemployment rate is still at an unacceptable 12%, wages are stagnant, personal debt levels are high, and 15% of Americans are on food stamps. Plus, most Americans (76%) are still living paycheck to paycheck.(5)

For the world’s biggest economy, these are not the makings of an economic recovery. Nor are they the foundation for sustainable economic growth, especially when you consider the fact that the U.S. gets more than 70% of its gross domestic product (GDP) from consumer spending. This might explain why some of the country’s wealthiest investors are dumping certain U.S. stocks.

comment: I know Albert is on this and making a prediction of a world wide economic crash. I have been at this for more than a year watching a struggling and sick economy in which reports are heavily weighed to continue to predict improvement while behind the scenes many danger signals are present.

No one wants this to happen - especially globally.  We simple do not have the executive or congressional power in place to deal with it. This Monday will tell us a lot.

Past being present - there will be a massive correction and the media will be flooded with "how very wrong" it was to predict trouble and now things are fine.

Whatever happens - they are not fine. The unemployment rates in no way reflects the real unemployment which may be double since they don't even count non-voters or people not looking for work. Most of all this is not a time to be right about this.

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Global economic-growth fears slammed Wall Street on Monday as U.S. equity markets plunged.

As of 9:30 a.m. ET, Dow Jones Industrial Average futures tumbled 657 points, or 3.99 % to 15808. S&P 500 futures dropped 74 points, or 3.78 % to 1897, while Nasdaq 100 futures plunged 208 points, or 4.96% to 3992.

Today’s Markets

The Dow saw its biggest-ever intraday point drop on Monday at the opening bell as it plunged 1,089 points. At the start of trading, all three major U.S. averages fell deep into correction territory.

A weekend to digest growing global economic-growth concerns failed to settle nerves on Wall Street as U.S. equities took a nosedive one session after the Dow officially entered a correction. Wall Street extended a selloff in global equity markets as worries about significant deterioration in China sparked fear in the minds of investors around the world.

comment: We are seeing a meltdown on Wall Street. The Dow dropped 1,089 points today.

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Panic!! All Major US Equity Indices Halted

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-24/panic-all-major-us-equity-indices-halted


"Nasdaq was the first to be halted at 0758ET.

The Dow is now down 850 points from Friday's close and halted...

The S&P 500 Futures is halted for the first time in history."



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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:


Panic!! All Major US Equity Indices Halted

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-24/panic-all-major-us-equity-indices-halted


"Nasdaq was the first to be halted at 0758ET.

The Dow is now down 850 points from Friday's close and halted...

The S&P 500 Futures is halted for the first time in history."

Satori - I have been watching the Dow real time and it still is all over. The market is very shaky after the 8.5% drop in one day that hit the Chinese market and wiped many investors out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/11764708/Chinese-stocks-suffer-biggest-one-day-drop-in-eight-years.html

There have been glitches with the equipment today at Wall Street with some stocks not accessible. 

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Most of my focus has been tracking a possible United States market crash for the last two years.  The ripple effect from a dismal Chinese stock market and other world economy issues are making it worse.

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...my investments in Smith & Wesson look better all the time! LOL
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Things are not better.

A 442-point surge for the Dow vanished at the end of the trading session Tuesday, the latest sign of how anxious markets have become about the health of the global economy.

At the end of yet another wild day of trading, the Dow actually ended with a loss of 205 points as fears continued to mount over China's slowing economy and its contagion effect on the rest of the world. Just in the last six trading days, the Dow has lost a total of nearly 1,900 points, or 11%.

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Thursday 27 August 2015

Bank lending in the US has contracted so far this year at the fastest rate in recorded history, raising concerns that the Federal Reserve may have jumped the gun by withdrawing emergency stimulus.

Fed chair Ben Bernanke first made his name as an expert on the "credit channel" causes of slumps. It is unclear why he has been so relaxed about declining bank loans this time.

"The reason the Great Depression became 'great' was the contraction of credit. You would have thought that a student of the Depression like Bernanke would be alarmed by this," said Mr Ashworth.

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note: No problems have been solved in the U.S. economy or in the basic over-valuing of stock at 1/70. We approach a likely meltdown of not only the U.S. but world economy in either September or October. Fault or blame is not an issue but rather the reality of a situation which demands correction and it will happen.


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Wall Street kicked off September on a sharply negative note as China growth worries slammed global markets yet again.

As of 9:30 a.m. ET, the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged 324 points, or 1.92% to 16196. The S&P 500 sank 36 points, or 1.85% to 1935, while the Nasdaq Composite dropped 94 points, or 1.96% to 4683.

All ten S&P 500 sectors were in negative territory, with technology falling the most, 2.20% in recent action.

Today’s Markets

It’s déjà vu all over again for global financial markets as manufacturing data rule the day.

Overnight, data from China showed the nation’s manufacturing sector slipped to a three-year low and back into contraction territory for the first time in six months, though mostly in-line with expectations, while the services sector also showed weakness.  

comment: After tracking this for years it is continuing to play out and could lead to a stock market crash.


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comment: It is possible that the U.S. stock market will crash in September - October 2015.
Some are predicting a global collapse of stocks beginning on October 7, 2015.

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The stock market continues to be bad. Most of the people I have talked to predict a major correction or collapse in September - October.

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16,384.58 -289.95 (-1.74%)
4:20 PM ET 09/18/15
Get the latest stock market news and analysis from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.

It is possible we will see a 15,000 DJIA? 

Moves on stock markets were erratic after Thursday's announcement. The S&P 500 dipped into negative territory, then soared 1%, before returning to the red. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 0.13%, and the Nasdaq gained 0.18%. The Volatility S&P 500 (VIX.X)  fell 7.2% to 19.86.

comment: Could get very bad as we near the end of September. October is likely a time when things could get bad.

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Stocks keep heading downwards. We may be headed for a 15,000 DOW before this is over or worse.

http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/

  • Dow -312.78 16,001.89 -1.92%
  • Nasdaq -142.53 4,543.97 -3.04%
  • S&P -49.57 1,881.77 -2.57%

https://secure.marketwatch.com/tools/marketsummary/

There could be some real upsets during October as there are more bad announcement on lending rates and also the national deficit and debt.


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I brought this thread back up and am getting ready to start new one for 2016. The market is looking worse.

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