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    Posted: January 01 2014 at 11:00pm
A new year, a new start! Does anyone have any new years resolutions involving prepping? For the month of January I would like to get my pantry and kitchen cabinets organized. My pantry is a huge mess, I have tons of food, but it is just stacked in there, no organization at all. It would be beneficial for it to be sorted and organized. So that is my goal for this month. Organization! What about everyone else?
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Strategising here.  Would like to be able to be 100 % self sufficient for a year or so but on my budget it won't happen.  So, my objective is to do what I can.  That includes having enough "stuff" to support my wife and myself through the bad times of H1N1 pandemic to the max extent possible.  That's what I see as the immediate need.  My thinking is to minimize trips I make away from home.  To support that objective I will stock what food, fuel  and all of the medications (OTC and Scripts) that I can muster and put it on the shelf.  When the SHTF I will start immediately to improvise, adapt, overcome, seek alternatives and lead life on a day to day basis.  Times will be hard so I think the challenge will be keeping a good mental attitude which will require a sound spiritual base.  

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I'm not one to make resolutions, but what I am doing this month, is resupplying otcs, and meats. Also, doing some rotations and reorganizations.  Since I just graduated, until I either get into grad school, or a job, whatever occurs first, I will be working on that since I have the free time.
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Seawolfe, two books that might interest you: Animal, vegetable, miracle by Barbara Kingsolver is a book about the author's attempt to only eat food they produce themselves or that is produced locally and to live without everything else. The second book is an Australian title called Choosing Eden by Adrienne Langman. This is about the authors sudden realisation that peak oil could cause them no end of trouble if they remained in the city and so they relocate and try to set themselves up to be self sufficient. 

I haven't made any resolutions this year but January is a busy month for me. 

At the moment I'm busy making cassis. We've just distilled another 5 litres of 90% proof alcohol. I've diluted this down to 40% and flavoured it to white rum. Our blackcurrant crop is mid crop at the moment and so I'm picking a basket a day. These I'm washing and  picking over and then freezing overnight. The next day I put them into a 2 quart jar so it's half full. Then I pour white rum over the top so the jar is 3/4 full.

These jars sit on our kitchen table and for the next 40 days I'll shake them daily. After 40 days, I'll strain off the blackcurrants (and store in a different jar with lots of sugar and just enough rum to cover them and we'll eat them with ice cream at a later date - adults only!).

To the now almost black rum I add enough sugar to make it sweet, and then continue shaking daily for about a week so the sugar dissolves. Then I decant it into bottles and put it away for the winter. Apart from being a delicious drink in small measures, it is also packed full with vitamin c which transfers from the black currants to the rum.

Last year I made 4 bottles, but this year I've got the hang of distilling and will make 10 bottles. If we don't drink it, it'll keep indefinitely. 

I also make a very effective cough syrup from some of the strained out blackcurrants. I crush them and strain the juice. When they come out of the rum they are still whole, the juice has left them due to osmosis but there's still some left. If I crushed them in the rum then the rum would be cloudy and I like it clear. So to make the cough syrup I crush them  and then measure out the juice/rum that comes from the berries and to that I add an equal measure of our own runny honey. 

This mixture has to be stirred for a few days to fully integrate, and then I bottle it into sterile small bottles (I use old maple syrup glass bottles that I pick out from the dump). I do not heat treat the syrup because I want it to be raw and full of enzymes. Our honey is raw and so are the blackcurrants and I'm sure this is better for you.

The cough syrup is fine on the shelf and lasts forever. I find 3 bottles are enough to go through the year but I always make 6 just in case. I give this to our family, including the children, at 2 teaspoons at a time. It's great for tickly coughs and makes everyone feel better. The very small amount of alcohol in it also helps children get to sleep.

When I've finished the blackcurrants (in about 2 days time) I'm starting on the worcester berry crop and I'll make most of that into jam.

The other thing I'm doing is making a list of outdoor jobs to be done before winter. Unfortunately it's a long list. We had a very wet winter last year and our land became very water logged and impassable in some places so we mapped it at the height of the flooding and intend to put in some dutch drains so it won't happen again. We live on clay but thankfully we have hilly land so plenty of gullies to drain water into. 
















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I want some of that cough syrup Wink
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You should try the cassis on a cold winters night, not only does it taste great but it's actually a health drink - at least that's what we tell ourselves!
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I always made honey lemon drink, by slicing up two or three lemons and layering them in a jar alternating between thin lemon slices and honey, then i let it sit in the fridge for about two days, shaking on occasion, and then when the juice of the lemon has combined with the honey in the mixture, I remove the slices of lemon and freeze them to use for later (or eat them like a snack) and then mix a couple spoonfuls of the combination of lemon juice and honey with either hot or cold water to drink. It's a common thing in Japan, you see it a lot in manga lol. My Japanese family did it for me in the summer when I had a cold while living there, it's refreshing. :)
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KiwiMum, I copied and printed your blackcurrant recipes and saved them for bad times. Now I am going to see if I can grow Blackcurrants in Colorado!

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Flumom you should have no problem growing them in Colorado according to the Colorado State University. Our bushes are about 4 years old and 3 ft in every direction and growing well. I do not irrigate them but we live on water retentive clay soil. I have successfully grown them on free draining stoney soil as well but they needed irrigation. You could try making cassis with frozen bought blackcurrants. 

The reason I freeze them is that it causes their skins to split and so the juice flows more freely. If you don't freeze them then you have to prick each one with a pin 2 or 3 times. We have shot each every evening during the winter months and at the first hint of a cold. 
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Blackcurrants grow wild in the UK so you should be okay, FluMom. I remember my first ever paying job was picking them with my best friend while we were out of school one summer. Back breaking work, and when we found out how hard it was to make any decent amount of money, we never went back.
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Thanks guys, I will incorporated a blackcurrant bush in my backyard. I have a spot the bush may just like! Next spring I am redoing all my front and part of my back yard so I will include this bush in the plan.
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Jacksdad, commercially they harvest blackcurrants in NZ by shaking the bush. A special machine does it and they spread something beneath the bushes to catch the berries. I don't think this is a very effective way to harvest, but it's quick.

Flumom, I was given a great book a few years ago called Edible Landscaping and it was all about incorporating edibles into a suburban garden without it being obvious to passerbys. Certainly blackcurrants make a great hedge. I have about 12 bushes in a straight line and they look great.
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KiwiMum - these were low lying bushes in rows across a large field. I'm just glad I was young, because I probably wouldn't have been able to bend that low for hours on end now. Not if I ever wanted to straighten back up anyway LOL
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yet another warning as to what can happen when "the system" breaks down


PHOTOS: What It Looks Like When A Massive Chemical Spill Contaminates The Water Supply


http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/01/11/3150431/photos-chemical-spill/


Crisis In West Virginia: Wal-Mart Calls In Police To Guard Bottled Water Delivery


http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/01/10/3149971/crisis-wal-mart-west-virginia-water-delivery/

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I will need to restock my OTC meds after having the flu. I have almost gone through an entire bottle of cough syrup in 36 hours, that is just one person. I have more, but imagining if it was more than one person plus need to replace what I have used. Plus ibuprofen. I also realized I only have half a bottle of generic benadryl when I was looking for an antihistamine.
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Satori, I live near where this happened. It a total of about 30 minutes to 1 hour for civilized society to go down the tubes. People were not even thirsty yet. Johnray1
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Excellent point Penham. We wiped out our supply of mucinex (actually...I did), so we need to restock. It was a useful dry run because it made me realize that the amount I thought would be adequate for my family was just enough for one person.
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Though I respect your contributions here, I respectfully submit that viruses and bacteria are very different and universal procedures of masking, limiting exposure to body excretions and fluids, and disinfection are less effective when dealing with viral infections.

"Virus - Bacteria Differences
Viruses are the smallest and simplest life form known. They are 10 to 100 times smaller than bacteria.
The biggest difference between viruses and bacteria is that viruses must have a living host - like a plant or animal - to multiply, while most bacteria can grow on non-living surfaces.
Bacteria are intercellular organisms (i.e. they live in-between cells); whereas viruses are intracellular organisms (they infiltrate the host cell and live inside the cell). They change the host cell's genetic material from its normal function to producing the virus itself.
There are some useful bacteria but all viruses are harmful.
Antibiotics can kill bacteria but not viruses.
An example of a disease caused by bacteria is strep throat and an example of an affliction caused by a virus is the flu."
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I just bought three pairs of reading glasses. Can't read a thing without them. I won't miss the TV much but I'd rather die than not read. I guess I need to buy more books too!
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Talking about glasses...I purchased some of those HD yellow glasses and for me they REALLY work. I am in my mid 60's and the glare of on coming cars blinds a person of my age. I know because all my friends hate night driving because of the same problems. You just do not see well at night and driving is just hard.

These glasses somehow cut the glare or do something and I can see better at dusk and night. Dusk is a real difference and night I can still see the lines after bright car lights pass.

So try them and see if they work for you also.
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