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Two-Thirds of Companies Will Scale Back Hiring in Next Six Months, According to a Dice Holdings, Inc. Survey

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NEW YORK, Dec. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Two-thirds of U.S. employersand recruiters plan to scale back hiring plans over the next six months,according to a new survey. One-third of companies believe that layoffs arelikely.

Those are some of the results of a survey from Dice Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:DHX) of hiring companies and recruiters. The more-than 1,000 respondents,drawn from a wide variety of industries, paint a picture of a job market forprofessionals that has deteriorated since the summer, when the economy wasalready in turmoil. Companies expecting layoffs represented diverse industriesincluding gaming and hotels, pharmaceuticals, technology, manufacturing andadvertising.

Dice Holdings surveyed an equivalent group in June, and their responseswere not as severe, with 20% expecting layoffs and 52% planning to scale backhiring. The shift in outlook underscores how quickly companies are adjustingtheir plans to the current economy.

"Companies were uncertain about the economy back in June, and wereadjusting hiring plans," said Scot Melland, Chairman, President & CEO, DiceHoldings, Inc. "Now we're seeing more companies express the need to cut backon hiring or discuss layoffs, preparing for what they see as a difficult yearin 2009."

In fact, 29 percent of respondents indicated hiring reductions would besubstantial -- double the number expecting that level of cutbacks whensurveyed in June. Some 27 percent reported no change to their hiring plansand six percent were unsure.

When will hiring return to normal? A plurality of respondents (44%) saythey are not sure and are waiting to see how the economy evolves. Of thosewilling to take a calendar guess, the largest percentage, 33 percent, areexpecting hiring to normalize in the second half of 2009.

"Companies need clarity on their own businesses and are reassessing theirstaffing needs on a case by case basis," said Melland. "At the same time,there are companies that are indeed hiring, and they may be able to acquiretalented professionals at advantageous salary levels."

Companies with open positions are benefiting from an increase incandidates applying for positions, as seven in ten are reporting an increasein the number of candidates applying for jobs. In addition, there appears tobe a flight to safety as larger companies, those with more than 500 employees,are finding an even larger candidate pool to choose from.

With more qualified professionals looking for an opportunity, companiesare holding the line on salaries with the majority of respondents -- 62percent -- indicating no increases in starting salaries from the previousyear. Fifteen percent expect to be able to offer less compensation -- up fromjust 3 percent in June. Nearly a quarter (22%) of the respondents expectsalaries to be slightly higher.

About the survey

In November 2008, Dice Holdings surveyed U.S. companies and recruitingfirms from every region of the country who hire or recruit a variety ofprofessionals. More than 1,000 responded to the email survey, with 79 percentidentified as companies that recruit for their own needs. Of that group, 41percent had more than 500 employees.

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Table 1: Has the current economic environment caused you or your clientsto scale back hiring plans for the next six months?

November 2008 June 2008 Yes, substantially 29% 15% Yes, slightly 38% 37% No 27% 43% I'm not sure 6% 5% Table 2: How likely do you think layoffs are in the next six months atyour organization, or if you are a recruiter at your clients' organizations?

November 2008 June 2008 Very likely 13% 7% Likely 21% 13% Not likely 47% 64% I don't know 19% 16% Table 3: When do you envision that your hiring or your clients' hiringwill return to normal levels? First half of 2009 12% Second half of 2009 33% First half of 2010 9% Second half of 2010 2% Not sure - we'll have to wait and see how the economy evolves 44% Table 4: Are you seeing an increase in the number of candidates applyingfor positions? November 2008 June 2008 Yes, significantly 35% 17% Yes, but slightly 36% 34% No 29% 49% Table 5: What trend do you see in salaries for new hires? November 2008 June 2008 They are significantly higher than last year 1% 4% They are slightly higher than last year 22% 48% They are the same as last year 62% 45% They are slightly less than last year 13% 3% They are significantly less than last year 2% 0% About Dice Holdings, Inc.

Dice Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: DHX) is a leading provider of specializedcareer websites for professional communities, including technology andengineering, capital markets and financial services, accounting and finance,and security clearance. Our mission is to help our customers source and hirethe most qualified professionals in select and highly skilled occupations, andto help those professionals find the best job opportunities in theirrespective fields and further their careers. For more than 18 years, we havebuilt our company by providing our customers with quick and easy access tohigh-quality, unique professional communities and offering those communitiesaccess to highly relevant career opportunities and information. Today, weserve multiple markets primarily in North America, Europe, the Middle East,Asia and Australia.

Media Contact: Jennifer Bewley Dice Holdings, Inc. 212-448-8288 dicemedia@dice.comSOURCE Dice Holdings, Inc.
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I think Obama should institute a four day work week, this would help people who a currently out of work, and gave the working people one extra day to spend their money on shopping, plus just like with minim wage we need a minim number of vacation days, I would say 30
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A four day work week? Wouldn't that be a 20% pay cut for those working 5 days a week?

Where does the money come from to pay for a 30 day vacation for everyone?
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SAN JOSE -- South Bay software giant Adobe Systems announced Wednesday it plans to lay-off 600 employees. The San Jose company says the economic crisis has hurt its revenue, forcing the company to tighten its belt. "We are experiencing what the whole world is experiencing," said Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen.

An Adobe spokeswoman says the layoffs already are taking place and will involve 8% of the company's global workforce. More details about the job cuts are expected to come out in two weeks.

In after hours trading, Adobe's stock dropped more than 7%. It lowered its revenue forecast for the fourth fiscal quarter. But earnings for each share are expected to increase.

Adobe is known for its popular graphic design, video editing, and web building software programs.
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GARY » U.S. Steel Corp. will cut output at three facilities because of a slump in demand, leaving about 3,500 workers temporarily laid off. Capacity will be idled at an iron-ore plant in Minnesota and at steel facilities near Detroit and St. Louis, the Pittsburgh-based company said in a statement. The company will temporarily concentrate production at four other plants, including one in Gary, U.S. Steel said. (Bloomberg)

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At&t will layoff 12,000!
I hope we are all looking at our homes.
De-clutter now while there are folks who will buy at a yard sale.
Pay off ALL your debts. Get some savings.
 
Plant those fruit trees. Learn how to garden in small areas.
I really believe in the next 12-18 months things are going to start getting REALLY tough. Yes, I know many of us have cut back and things seem tough.
I'm afraid I cannot imagine what we are headed into.
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Originally posted by endman endman wrote:

I think Obama should institute a four day work week, this would help people who a currently out of work, and gave the working people one extra day to spend their money on shopping, plus just like with minimum wage we need a minimum number of vacation days, I would say 30
Four day work week is four days at ten hours a day.
That cuts down on overtime. It increases daycare.
Military gets a thirty day paid vacation (leave) each year.
Would your proposed thirty day civilian vacation be paid or unpaid such as what our teacher endure three months years? 
Your proposal albeit perhaps in jest may have some merit.
What would happen if we did go to a 4/10 work week for only nine months a year and NO paid time off for the remaining three months. This would seem to open up lots of job opportunities. Kind of like splitting a job. Very interesting idea. I need to put some pencil to this thought.
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I would take a 20% cut in pay and be employed instead off looking at the unemployment line. Plus if company would need extra people to work other 3 days of the week
They would hire people. Plus more holidays and vacation days OK maybe non payable but it will help. I think France was looking into this kind of the work week solution 
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/93a5d1e6-c230-11dd-a350-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1


Australia instructs workers to take a break

By Peter Smith in Sydney

Published: December 4 2008 18:33 | Last updated: December 4 2008 18:33

Australia's 11m workers can hardly believe their luck.

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A day after official figures signaled that the country was moving perilously close to recession, the Australian government on Thursday instructed its workforce to take a break.

Launching an official campaign dubbed "No Leave, No Life", Martin Ferguson, the tourism minister, urged Australians to use up the average of 11 days of paid but untaken leave that each has accumulated. Total accrued leave amounts to 121m days, valued at A$31bn ($20bn).

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Why you Greedy Global Twits...Enough Already...
 
Kicking the American people when they are down.
 
This is why Corps need to kick in a goodly share of taxes, because there ia absolutely no
 
insentive for them to do what's right otherwise.  They have proven that by the immense
 
greed and lack of ethics we have seen these last 15 yrs....
 
 
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December 4th, 2008

Diller to profitable companies: Lay off the layoffs

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IAC Chief Executive Barry Diller took several groups to task at the Reuters Media Summit, but he reserved special disgust for CEOs at profitable companies who add to the country’s rising unemployment rate.
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Also targeted by the former Hollywood executive were “incredibly, shockingly stupid” Big 3 auto executives, the Internet’s strange and growing dictionary, and Hollywood’s lack of creativity.
 
Diller said companies had a higher obligation, especially in tough times like these:
"The idea of a company that's earning money, not losing money, that's not, let's say 'industrially endangered,' to have just cutbacks so they can earn another $12 million or $20 million or $40 million in a year where no one's counting is really a horrible act when you think about it on every level.
 
First of all, it's certainly not necessary. It's doing it at the worst time. It's throwing people out to a larger, what is inevitably a larger unemployment heap for frankly no good reason."










 
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533,000 jobs lost in November -- most in more than 30 years

Labor Department statistics show that U.S. employers have cut 1.2 million jobs in the last three months. 'This was much worse than was expected,' one analyst says.

By Maura Reynolds |LA Times
11:20 AM EST, December 5, 2008
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Alex Silverman of Great Neck, NY, who lost his job 14 months ago at WaMu Capital Corp., speaks with recruiter Julia Kaufmann-Yu. (Craig Ruttle / Associated Press / November 18, 2008)


Reporting from Washington - The bottom fell out of the job market last month, with businesses laying off a staggering 533,000 workers -- many more than even gloomy economists predicted. It was the worst one-month decline in more than 30 years, the government reported today.

And the bad news didn't stop there. The Labor Department also revised upward its previous estimates of jobs losses in the last two months to 403,000 in September and 320,000 in October.

Altogether, the economy has bled more than 1.2 million jobs in the last three months alone, and nearly 2 million since the start of the year. Normally, the economy has to create 100,000 jobs a month, or about 1.2 million a year, just to keep pace with population growth.

"This was much worse than was expected and represents wholesale capitulation," said Peter Morici, an economist at the University of Maryland. "The threat of a widespread depression is now real and present."


The unemployment rate also rose in November, although not as dramatically -- from 6.5% to 6.7%. Economists say that's because the Labor Department doesn't count "discouraged" workers, only those who are actively applying for new jobs.

Jared Bernstein, a labor economist at the Economic Policy Institute, said that when discouraged workers are added into the rate, along with people involuntarily working part-time, the unemployment rate rises to 12.5%.

"At this point, almost 20 million people are unemployed or underemployed," said Bernstein, who has been named economic advisor to incoming Vice President Joe Biden. "That's almost 1 out of 8 people in the labor force."

The economy officially entered a recession a year ago, economists say, but the downturn deepened sharply when financial markets crashed in September. Bernstein noted that from January to August, job cuts averaged 82,000 a month. Since September, the average has been 419,000 jobs a month.

For most of this year, the losses have been concentrated in the hard-hit manufacturing and construction sectors, but last month no part of the economy was spared. Even stores who normally add holiday workers this time of year appeared to hire fewer than they did last year.

"History tells that once the labor market weakens as much as it has in the past several months, job-shedding takes on a life of its own and tends to persist for a long while," said Joshua Shapiro, chief U.S. economist at MFR Inc., a New York-based forecasting firm. "We expect labor market conditions to be dreadful for many months to come and consequently for consumer spending to continue to decline."

Joel Prakken, chairman of Macroeconomic Advisers, an economic research firm in St. Louis, Mo., said that recent data suggest that small and medium-sized business -- historically more reluctant to lay off trained employees -- have begun to bow to the economic pressure.

"The fact that you are now seeing job losses in small companies tells you that this has now spread well beyond the manufacturing and housing sectors," Prakken said.

Small businesses will often cut back workers' hours before laying them off, in part because it is harder for them to find and train new workers. That's one way that workers become "involuntary part-timers" -- their employer would rather reduce their hours from full-time to part-time than fire them outright.

"Small business owners are facing the grim reality that they're having to part with people they consider their extended family," said John Kabateck, executive director of the California chapter of the National Federation of Independent Business. "Unlike medium and large scale businesses, these are close-knit families. Telling an employee they have to leave is like evicting a close loved member of your family from your home. It's tough."

The only silver lining to the jobs report is that perhaps the steep job cuts will accelerate not only the downturn but the recovery, said Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Associates in Holland, Pa.

Naroff said that the faster pace of technology and communications means that businesses appear to react more quickly now to bad economic news than they did in previous downturns. The first stage of adjustment is slowing production and reducing workers' hours; the second one is layoffs.

"We are heavily into the second stage of the adjustment process already," Naroff said. "In the past, the unemployment rate would rise well past a year or more of the end of a recession. Now we see businesses move immediately to cut out workers to reduce their costs so they can survive the recession."

"So, instead of a protracted period of moderate layoffs, it's possible we'll have a shorter period of very, very large layoffs," Naroff said.

In California, many small businesses are trying desperately to hang onto their close-knit group of employees, especially as the holidays creep closer.

Maria Sobrino, founder and CEO of Lulu's Dessert Corp. in Anaheim, said she's managed to avoid layoffs so far, but only by cutting many of her 60 employees' shifts from 10 to eight hours, opening four days a week instead of five, and eliminating an entire shift altogether.

Lulu's distributes baked goods to about 5,000 supermarkets in California, Nevada, Arizona and Texas, including Ralphs, Food4Less and Wal-Mart.

Sobrino said she may have to lay off workers in January if the holidays don't bring in enough business. "Sales are very soft right now," she said. "It'll depend on how the holidays go. Buyers are postponing their appointments until January. They don't want to see any new products until next year. I'm looking for a miracle to happen."

Spectrum Benefits Group, a Woodland Hills-based benefits consulting firm, works with about 200 small businesses, many of which have been contacting the agency for ways to cut back on benefits costs in order to avoid layoffs.

"The phone rings off the hook daily for this," said Vice President Marth Lugo-Aguayo. "Clients will call us saying they're going through layoffs. . . . we'll try to find them a different medical plan to save the company money so they can retain a couple more employees."

Reynolds is a reporter in our Washington bureau. Times staff writer Catherine Ho contributed to this report.

maura.reynolds@latimes.com

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Please read here-

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/93a5d1e6-c230-11dd-a350-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1


Australia instructs workers to take a break

By Peter Smith in Sydney

Published: December 4 2008 18:33 | Last updated: December 4 2008 18:33

Australia's 11m workers can hardly believe their luck.

excerpt-

A day after official figures signaled that the country was moving perilously close to recession, the Australian government on Thursday instructed its workforce to take a break.

Launching an official campaign dubbed "No Leave, No Life", Martin Ferguson, the tourism minister, urged Australians to use up the average of 11 days of paid but untaken leave that each has accumulated. Total accrued leave amounts to 121m days, valued at A$31bn ($20bn).

............................................................................................................................................
 
 
 
And...
 
Finally someone says what we all think-
 
Why you Greedy Global Twits...Enough Already...
 
Kicking the American people when they are down.
 
This is why Corps need to kick in a goodly share of taxes, because there ia absolutely no
 
insentive for them to do what's right otherwise.  They have proven that by the immense
 
greed and lack of ethics we have seen these last 15 yrs....
 
 
.........................................................................................
 
 
 
 
December 4th, 2008

Diller to profitable companies: Lay off the layoffs

Tags: Uncategorized, Chairman Barry Diller, Hollywood, IAC, Summit
IAC Chief Executive Barry Diller took several groups to task at the Reuters Media Summit, but he reserved special disgust for CEOs at profitable companies who add to the country’s rising unemployment rate.
excerpt-
Also targeted by the former Hollywood executive were “incredibly, shockingly stupid” Big 3 auto executives, the Internet’s strange and growing dictionary, and Hollywood’s lack of creativity.
 
Diller said companies had a higher obligation, especially in tough times like these:
"The idea of a company that's earning money, not losing money, that's not, let's say 'industrially endangered,' to have just cutbacks so they can earn another $12 million or $20 million or $40 million in a year where no one's counting is really a horrible act when you think about it on every level.
 
First of all, it's certainly not necessary. It's doing it at the worst time. It's throwing people out to a larger, what is inevitably a larger unemployment heap for frankly no good reason."










 

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Layoffs expected to decimate Wall Street ranks

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NEW YORK (AP) — The U.S. financial services industry is witnessing the bursting of yet another bubble. This time, it's the industry itself.

Bloated by years of frenzied growth, Wall Street banks and other firms are shedding tens of thousands of jobs and slashing entire divisions in their most drastic downsizing since the Great Depression. The moves promise to upend financial services and investment options for Americans from Wall Street to Main Street.

Those layoffs will drain New York and other cities of vital tax dollars while swelling the fast-growing ranks of the nation's unemployed. U.S. employers cut 533,000 jobs in November — the most in 34 years — including 32,000 in the financial-services sector, the government said Friday.

Saddled with heavy losses and a shriveled stock price, Citigroup Inc. last month said it would eliminate 53,000 jobs, the second-largest job cut by a U.S. company on record. Other firms plan to drop the ax on tens of thousands more, especially in areas that specialize in the risky investment products that helped ignite the financial meltdown.

"I think it's pretty clear that the whole financial sector is going to be smaller than it was," said Kevin Logan, chief U.S. economist at investment bank Dresdner Kleinwort. "It's not going to just consolidate; it's going to shrink."

Whether the bloodletting brings permanent changes to the economy is a matter of debate. But consumers will be deeply affected regardless. A leaner financial sector should lead to simpler, safer investment options as Wall Street reduces risk. But a smaller, more conservative financial sector also means smaller, more conservative lending. And that would lead to less available credit.

"We're going back to the basics," said Robert Howell, a finance professor at Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. "The financial system was behaving like a bunch of drunks, and now it's back to sobriety. Things got totally carried away."

Through October, 130,000 financial jobs had been eliminated throughout the industry this year, according to employment firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas.

The elimination of 53,000 jobs at Citigroup — part of a 20 percent downsizing at the firm — will raise the number to around 180,000. That would be the industry's biggest yearly contraction ever.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. is shedding 10 percent of workers at its investment bank, matching planned cuts at rivals Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley. State Street Corp. said it will cut 1,600 to 1,800 jobs, or 6 percent of the investment services company's global work force.

The credit crisis is partly to blame. But so is the sector's rampant overcapacity. The U.S. financial industry historically has roughly doubled in size during each major technological innovation — railroads in the late 1800s, autos in the 1920s and the tech boom of the 1990s, for example.

As the boom years faded and financing needs fell, the size of the financial industry contracted accordingly. But when the Internet bubble burst in 2000, the sector never stopped growing. Instead, it ballooned over the past eight years to around 10 percent of the U.S. economy, puzzling economists.

"There was no reason for the industry to grow as fast as it did," said Thomas Philippon, a finance professor at New York University who has studied the financial industry's growth cycles. "The fundamentals just weren't there."

His models predict the financial sector will shrink to around 7 percent of gross domestic product, shedding $100 billion in annual wage costs. That would be Wall Street's first contraction in GDP terms since 1933, according to Philippon.

The pullback comes at a heavy cost. New York state Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli has said that over the next two years, the financial crisis could cost the state and New York City 225,000 private-sector jobs and the state and city $6.5 billion in tax revenue from the securities industry.

For financial workers caught in the whirlwind, anxiety runs high.

"Everybody's talking about it, of course," said Oliver Bouchard, a New York-based technology specialist for Citigroup, whose stock dipped below $4 last month, before federal regulators unveiled a plan to guarantee hundreds of billions of dollars in possible losses by Citi and inject more money into the struggling bank. "People are fearful for their jobs."

Bouchard, speaking for himself and not his employer, doesn't think he'll be among those laid off but said "nobody at this moment knows what's going on."

"Everybody hopes that it will just resolve itself," Bouchard said.

So where will the next round of layoffs hit the hardest?

The sectors of the industry that deal with mortgage mortgage-related asset-backed securities and other risky investments are expected to be among the most battered. The subprime fiasco has left investors wary of holding such investments. As a result, many financial firms have closed mortgage-related divisions. Experts expect that trend to accelerate next year.

"Any sector related to mortgages will contract significantly, probably by as much as half," said Sung Won Sohn, an economics professor at California State University, Channel Islands. "Many of those people simply aren't going to be needed."

Another group whose ranks are being thinned are financial engineers. Those are the math whizzes, lured from top schools to build complex computer trading models at hedge funds and big Wall Street firms. The so-called "quants" have been blamed for underestimating the risks of mortgage-related securities, derivatives and other exotic assets that helped trigger the financial crisis.

Many already have been let go. And firms say few will be replaced any time soon. That somber reality cast a pall over a financial engineering career fair at New York University this month. The annual event used to attract all the big names on Wall Street; this year, there were numerous cancellations.

"They said, 'Look, we're not hiring right now,'" said Steven Allen, board member of the International Association of Financial Engineers, which co-sponsored the event. "This was the first year you felt that people think it's worse than it was. There are jobs, but it's going to be much harder."

One prospective quant faced with dwindling job prospects is Zaw Myo Thant, who is pursuing a master's in financial engineering at NYU's Polytechnic Institute. He described the mood among his classmates as "pretty grim."

"Most students are already having difficulties finding an intern position, let alone full-time positions," said Thant, 32.

Amid the gloom, there could be a silver lining, at least for consumers. Fewer high-risk assets being traded should provide a more orderly marketplace. Ideally, that would safeguard against further market spasms like those that have wiped out billions in investors' retirement savings and other holdings.

"We can't have Wall Street producing defective products again," said Edward Yardeni, an independent market analyst. "They don't necessarily kill, but they do a lot of damage."

He said the industry will likely go back to the basics of the capital markets — "stocks, bonds ... things normal people can understand."

Yet if banks remain stingy with their money, the credit pinch that has squeezed consumers and small businesses in need of loans could worsen.

"Banks won't be lending as much, and that's going to cause some pain," said Howell of Dartmouth's Tuck School of Business.

Opinion is mixed, though, on whether a slimmed-down financial industry will really become more prudent or whether the pursuit of profits will inevitably restore the kind of freewheeling days the led to the meltdown.

Much will depend on what new regulations stem from the crisis, NYU's Philippon said.

Some lawmakers have called for tighter limits on how much leverage financial firms can assume, among other restrictions. Free-market advocates, though, warn that burdensome rules could stifle innovation and undercut the industry.

"My best guess is that the U.S. economy remains vibrant and efficient," Philippon said. But the shape and scope of any new regulation "will be the biggest factor" for the financial sector's future success.

"That's going to determine whether it's a dynamic sector or a dead one," he said.


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I know that we have been cutting back as much as possible on a personal level. My job is not secure at all, in fact one week I worked only 5 hours, we don't get our schedule until the Saturday night before the week we work, most of the time I work around 15 hours, sometimes a little more (which is around what I expect). We don't rely on my income. We are trying to save as much as possible and buy as little as possible. We did breakdown and buy a new stove, but our dryer broke a couple of weeks after that and I bought a used one off Craigslist for $25, then the next week our TV went, I also got a used one off Craigslist for $50. I had tried to find a stove off Craigslist but after a month of looking there was nothing that would work.  I am hoping that hubby's job is secure, I figure as long as there are addicts and alcoholics that he will be needed, he might have to move around within the facility he works, maybe more/different than what he is doing now, but I am hoping. So far our state has not even gone to a hiring freeze as of yet and I know from beng a former state employee that is the first step at cutting back. So we are not there yet. Every time I watch the news I see another company laying people off, it is sad, especially at the holidays.
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Penham, my husband was in upper management for years and early to mid December is traditionally the time to lay people off. I never knew this until he told me. It is because of the bottom line for the end of the year and to have a better budget for the new year.

It is the worst time to lay people off!! Wish it was different.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Penham, my husband was in upper management for years and early to mid December is traditionally the time to lay people off. I never knew this until he told me. It is because of the bottom line for the end of the year and to have a better budget for the new year.

It is the worst time to lay people off!! Wish it was different.
 
I guess that makes alot of sense, I never really thought about it before.
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Sony layoffs could portend wave of Asia tech job cuts

Tue Dec 9, 2008 4:14am EST

By Doug Young

TAIPEI, Dec 9 (Reuters) - Massive job cuts at Sony Corp (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and a bleak outlook from Samsung Electronics (005930.KS: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) mark what may be the beginning of a long winter for one Asia's key sectors, with more bad news likely to follow in coming weeks.

Sony became the region's highest profile technology company to announce major layoffs on Tuesday, saying it will slash 8,000 jobs and cut production to shave $1.1 billion in costs. [ID:nT7887]

Hours earlier, rival tech heavyweight Samsung said it was cutting its targets for sales, capital spending and profit, reflecting a tough worldwide economy. [ID:nSEO366917]

The Sony layoffs could be just the beginning of a regional wave of job cuts if the global economy continues to slump, hitting demand for TVs, computers and other electronic goods.

"It's only really getting underway right now," said Credit Suisse economist Joseph Lau. "It's not likely to bottom out anytime within the next two to three quarters, so we'll probably look at at least that much time in terms of further corporations restructuring their workforce and overall financial health."

The Sony and Samsung woes mark some of the biggest ripples to date in a steady stream profit warnings and other cost-cutting moves by global technology companies including Intel (INTC.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), Infineon (IFXGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), STMicroelectonrics (STM.PA: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and Texas Instruments (TXN.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz).

Most have avoided massive layoffs so far, often by taking other cost-cutting measures. But many may soon run out of options and have to follow suit as demand for their products dives in the critical U.S. and European markets.

"If there's no recovery in demand during Christmas and the Chinese New Year holiday, technology companies will really have to think how they can survive," said Karen Lin, a fund manager at Taiwan's Paradigm Asset Management Co Ltd.

"Chances are high companies would start to lay off people to further cut costs. It makes sense for chip companies, especially those have production lines, to cut workforce if their capacity utilisation rates keep falling."

Up until now, tech firms up and down the supply chain -- many of them losing money -- have avoided actual job cuts in places like South Korea, Japan and Taiwan, where such cuts are sensitive and often go unpublicised even when they happen.

Taiwanese DRAM memory chip makers, struggling in their industry's worse-ever downturn, have quietly been forcing their employees to take unpaid leave for the last few months. They are being joined in that practice by TSMC (2330.TW: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and UMC (2303.TW: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), the world's two biggest contract chipmakers.

South Korean memory chip giant Hynix (000660.KS: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) is also taking steps to cut labour costs, including forced unpaid leave, while Samsung and LG Electronics (066570.KS: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) are idling some of their capacity longer than usual at the year-end season.

In Japan, some firms have laid off temporary workers but also have yet to cut full-time staff.

"Samsung and LG are avoiding job cuts and for now just have some employees on longer year-end holidays," said Kim Ik-sang, an analyst at HI Investment & Securities in Seoul.

"It would cost them more if they cut jobs and try to hire back later. Korean companies can wait and see for the time being before they consider more measures," he said.

For a FACTBOX on global job cuts, click [ID:nLR45752]

(Additional reporting by Baker Li, Kelvin Soh, Gina Chang and Lee Chyen Yee in TAIPEI and So-eui Rhee in SEOUL; Editing by Lincoln Feast)

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Job cuts mount across sectors in U.S.

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - The United States suffered a grim roll call of job losses on Monday, as a number of major manufacturing and service companies are forced to slash costs to cope with the deepening economic crisis.

The cuts come only three days after government figures showed that U.S. employers axed 533,000 jobs from payrolls in November, the most in 34 years, and that the nation's unemployment rate hit 6.7 percent, the highest since 1993.

Economists expect the unemployment rate to rise to as much as 8 percent of the workforce by late next year.

Jobs data for December also looks to be bleak as Dow Chemical Co. <DOW.N>, the largest U.S. chemical maker, said it will close 20 facilities, divest several businesses, and cut 5,000 jobs. It is also planning to drop the number of outside contractors by 6,000 and temporarily idle 180 plants.

Meanwhile, hotels and timeshare company Wyndham Worldwide Corp <WYN.N> announced 4,000 job losses as it shrinks its timeshare business.

Others taking the scythe to their workforces included diversified manufacturer 3M Co <MMM.N>, which said it would cut a total of 2,300 jobs in the fourth quarter, 1,800 of which have already been cut, mainly in the United States, Western Europe and Japan, and the world's largest brewer, Anheuser-Busch InBev <INTB.BR>, cutting 1,400 job losses, or six percent of its workforce in the U.S. following Inbev's takeover of Anheuser-Busch earlier this year.

In the telecoms sector, Level 3 Communications Inc <LVLT.O> said it would cut about 450 jobs in North America, and Sprint Nextel Corp <S.N> said it plans to cut costs and warned that it could include layoffs.

Tribune Co, the privately held publisher of newspapers including the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection as it struggles with its debt load and large losses, including a $124 million third quarter loss posted in November. The move is expected to lead to job cuts at the media company.

President-elect Barack Obama, who takes office on January 20, said last week the downturn demanded action to create new jobs, which economists say means a spending and tax plan of $500 billion to $700 billion.

Job losses in November were the steepest since December 1974, when 602,000 jobs were shed, and much worse than the consensus on Wall Street for a 340,000 reduction.

(Reporting by Phil Wahba; Editing by Bernard Orr)

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This has nothing to do with company layoffs, but I was in the grocery store today and I was behind a younger man, maybe in his 20's, he was buying a jar of spaghetti sauce and a package of noodles that was all. He was using his Access Oklahoma card, which is Foodstamps here, he didn't know how to use it, he had to have the clerk help him, he said he had never used one before. He also talked to the store manager who had passed by and asked if he had any jobs, he said he would do ANYTHING, he just needed a job. I am guessing he must have recently lost his job, since he had never used Foodstamps before and was searching for any type job.  It was sad. I think people in this area are just now starting to be affected with job losses, as they say that our area has NOT been affected like the rest of the country with job losses as well as the housing mess, we still have houses selling and people buying. But for how long?
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I would like to know when all these people that have been laid off are going to start steeling for a living to support their family.When people are laid off, fired, forced from their home and cannot feed their family and are living on the street they will turn to violence. This includes steeling, mugging, robbing, and comitting any crime neccesary to survive. I cant say that I would not do the same if I was in their shoes. Someday I think this will happen in this country and I am glad I have prepared for any disaster that could come about. Including loosing my job.
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I think most people are basically good and before they start committing crimes they will try the foodstamps, foodbanks, etc...but when that runs out I can see steeling food first before doing something like "hurting" someone...of course there are those out there already that will hurt and kill people just because....they don't even need a reason like hunger...so I believe in being prepared for the "evil doers" no matter what the economy is doing.
 
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I know that things are starting to get bad here, in the same grocvery store I was in yesterday (small town near my town) I was shopping and overheard the manager talking to several emplyees that they could have any food that was to be thrown away or normally donated to the farmers for animal feeding (which is the norm around here farmers get any damaged items or those items that cannot sell to feed to their pigs) but their manager was saying to the employees that he knew they needed it more than the farmers and they could take what they needed. That is good, of course the farmers will then be short.
 
As far as food stamps are concerned, my oldest daughter is a food stamp worker. If you have kids you're ok to get food stamps indefinately, but if you're single and able bodied you can only get food stamps food for 2 months (here in OK). So single people will be in worse shape first as far as food is concerned. If everyone goes on food stamps, how long will the federal and state funds last for food stamps?  This whole scenario does not look good.
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You are right Penham...it doesn't look good. Just a matter of time I suuppose. My husband's factory is closing another one of their plants...600 people on Dec. 23...So far we have been lucky...of course no bonuses, no pay raise, hours cut, and in January we start paying for a portion of our health insurance and will have co-pays...we've been lucky until now we didn't have to pay for it at all or had upfront co-pays....things are changing quickly.
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Yahoo slashes 1,500 jobs

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Yahoo, struggling to chart a new course in a troubled economy, initiated layoffs of 1,500 employees worldwide Wednesday while reports circulated about potential successors to chief executive Jerry Yang and a major investor expressed hope for reviving talks with Microsoft.

Yahoo also disclosed in a regulatory filing that it had amended a controversial employee severance agreement it adopted last February less than two weeks after Microsoft made its unsolicited offer to buy the Internet giant.

The amendments, which settled a lawsuit filed by investors, curbed severance payments that were assured to all Yahoo employees if they were fired or quit after being reassigned to a new job within two years after a Microsoft takeover. In some quarters, the changes were seen as a invitation to Microsoft to renew overtures.

The flurry of news got a rousing reception on Wall Street, as Yahoo shares shot up 9.93 percent. Yahoo's performance helped lift the Nasdaq index up 1.18 percent.

But Yahoo's share price, closing at $13.40, still paled against the unsolicited, premium offer of $31 a share that Microsoft offered to acquire the company Feb. 1 — an offer Yang rejected as insufficient. The Microsoft bid, long since rescinded, has cast a cold shadow over Yahoo and Yang's tenure as its leader as the economy has worsened.

Yahoo, which is based in Sunnyvale and employs about 5,000 people in Silicon Valley, had announced plans to terminate 10 percent of 15,000-member global work force in October, when the economic outlook was slightly less gloomy. On Nov. 17, Yang announced his intention to step down as CEO as complaints grew about his ability to lead the company he co-founded.

"The reductions we're making are very hard, but very necessary," Yang said in a memo to Yahoo employees on Wednesday. Calling it "a tough time for all of us," he emphasized the need ''to better align costs with revenues — something businesses in virtually every sector are also having to do."

New names have surfaced as Yang's potential successor. In recent days, former Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen was cited by Bloomberg News, and former Vodafone boss Arun Sarin was named by the Wall Street Journal.

The company declined to comment on outside candidates while confirming that Yahoo President Sue Decker is under consideration. Chizen, highly regarded for his leadership of Adobe, is also said to be considering a role with a private equity firm.

Yahoo declined to specify how many valley workers were targeted by the layoffs. One unit shuttered was Yahoo's San Francisco-based "Brickhouse,'' once ballyhooed as an idea incubator. Some of its teams were being reassigned within Yahoo, spokeswoman Kim Rubey said.

One former Yahoo executive said Silicon Valley-based engineering jobs were thought to be more vulnerable in the new layoffs as the company pushes more work to its offices in Bangalore, India. Rubey declined to comment directly on that issue but noted that in a recent quarterly earnings call, Yahoo executives said they were evaluating relocating some operations to "lower-cost geographies."

Yahoo has long been regarded as one of the Web's leading brands and remains one of the world's most popular sites, but its fortunes have flagged with the rise of Google. Microsoft's rivalry with Google and its desire for a stronger presence on the Web led to its unsolicited, ill-fated bid for Yahoo.

Yahoo was struggling when Yang was named CEO in June, 2007 to try to reclaim some of its luster. His tenure was marked by his opposition to Microsoft's entreaties, which led to criticism from activist shareholders led by billionaire Carl Icahn. Icahn denounced as "obscene" the employee-severance policy that would have made a Microsoft takeover of the Internet company more costly.

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Office Depot to Close 112 Stores, Cut 2,200 Jobs (Update3)

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Dec. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Office Depot Inc. said it will close almost 10 percent of its North American stores and cut 2,200 jobs as the U.S. recession saps demand for business furniture, sending the shares up 9.1 percent.

The world’s second-largest office-supplies retailer said today in a filing that it will shutter 112 underperforming locations and six distribution centers in the next three months as it eliminates 4.5 percent of its workforce. The closings will reduce Office Depot’s North American sites to 1,163 from 1,275. Fourteen more stores will close in 2009 when their leases expire.

Office Depot posted losses or profit declines for the past six quarters as businesses stopped buying desk chairs and computers. Its sales and profit margins trail larger rival Staples Inc. Some investors have been concerned about the company’s future, said Dan Poole, senior vice president of equity research at National City Bank in Cleveland.

“Today’s announcement boosts cash flow in year one, which improves the company’s prospects for survival,” said Poole. His firm manages $34 billion, including Office Depot shares.

Planned new store openings for next year will be slashed in half to 20, reducing capital spending to less than $200 million in 2009, the company said. In October, Boca Raton, Florida-based Office Depot projected that it would spend $225 million in 2009. The moves will boost cash flow next year by $70 million.

Office Depot rose 22 cents to $2.65 at 4:06 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. The shares have lost 81 percent this year, while Staples has fallen 22 percent.

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The actions will trigger costs of $270 million to $300 million in the fourth quarter and in 2009 for continuing lease payments on closed stores, severance and liquidated inventory, Office Depot said. Other restructuring may take place, it said.

Forty-five locations will be closed in the central U.S., 19 in the West, eight in the South and 40 in the northeastern U.S. and Canada. Office Depot declined to release a list of specific store closures.

Staples eliminated 1,000 jobs in the third quarter at the unit that sells to companies as part of integrating Corporate Express, a Dutch office-supplies distributor, Chief Operating Officer Michael Miles said during a Dec. 2 conference call with analysts and investors.

Staples, which runs more than 2,000 locations worldwide, said it will open 60 stores in the U.S. and 15 in Canada next year, down from 107 in North America this year. It plans $400 million in capital spending in 2009, down from the $400 million to $500 million forecast in October.

-- Editors: Brad Skillman, Stefanie Batcho-Lino

To contact the reporter on this story: Heather Burke in New York at hburke2@bloomberg.net.

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Companies That Won’t Make It Through 2009 (HMC)(SIRI)(AIG)(FRE)(FNM)(RAD)(NYT)(NT)(PIR)(CHTR)(HOV)

AngrybearA lot of fairly well-known public companies either disappeared or went bankrupt this year. Circuit City is on the list. Based on the most recent news GM may get added soon.

24/7 Wall St. looked at some of the largest and most well-known companies, reviewed their SEC filings if they are public, analyst reports, and media observations about their businesses and picked ten that probably won’t be around at the end of next year. That does not mean that their brands will disappear, but these companies will have been dissolved as the world knows them now or working though the court system in the hopes of getting Chapter 11 protection and a chance at survival.

1) Chrysler already says it will be out of business by early next year. But, what does that mean. It is unlikely that its largest shareholder, hedge fund Cerberus, is going to throw good money after bad in an economy where US car sales are dropping 30% compared with 2007 figures. But, the Chrysler brand could be around. So could the brand of its Jeep division. Foreign car companies like VW and Honda (HMC) would love to get well-known operations without the baggage of debt, UAW contracts, and dealer networks. Chrysler still has some popular models including it 300 series cars and it created the minivan. Jeep is regarded as the grandfather of four-wheel drive. Watch Chrysler Motors LLC go away and some of its products move into other hands.

2) Sirius XM (SIRI) has traded under $.10 down from a 52-week high of $3.89. Reuters has reported that "Sirius XM faces some $1.1 billion in debt in 2009. Of that, about $300 million comes due in February." In the current credit environment, that probably won’t happen. There is a theory that falling car sales will undermine the sale of Sirius subscriptions. The company says that it does no better than break-even in the first year it gets a new customer though GM. But, a shrinking subscriber based is not good news for the satellite radio company’s future. Sirius will be out of business, perhaps before mid-year. Who picks up the pieces? The logical choices are a healthy car company like Toyota or a satellite firm like DirecTV.

3) AIG (AIG) may be the biggest mess of all the financial firms that the federal government has bailed out. Uncle Sam has given AIG $153 billion in loans. The theory is that the money gets paid back by the huge insurance company selling assets. Investors don’t seem very sanguine about that. AIG shares trade at $1.60, down from a 52-week high of $60.04. Congress seems less and less enamored of having a lot of money sitting in troubled companies. Watch for the new administration to get frustrated quickly and appoint its own people to auction off AIG divisions. Better to get something back than keep writing AIG checks.

4) Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) is two for one. They are both penny stocks, reflecting the fact that the Treasury has essentially taken them over, putting them into a conservatorship and pledging up to $200 billion to back their assets. With mortgage defaults rising, and home prices falling, that is not the end of the amount of money that the government will have to sink into the firms. Within a few months, the value of the common shares in the firms will be gone. The new administration may even decide that it does not need both companies. They can be replaced with some of their role going to the FDIC and the rest to one consolidated entity controlled by The Treasury Department which is already funding them.

5) Rite Aid (RAD) trades at $.35 down from at 52-week high of $4.16. The pharmacy company has over 5,000 stores and Wall St. does not expect it to be profitable in the foreseeable future. The chain is a roll-up of the original company and Brooks and Eckerd stores which it acquired. With a debt load of over $6 billion, the firm is likely to falter. Competitors CVS Caremark (CVS) and Walgreen (WAG) would be happy to pick up the pieces. Rite Aid recently announced poor quarterly numbers and cut forecasts.

6) The New York Times (NYT) has to repay $400 million in debt in the first half of 2009. It does not have the money. It plans to mortgage its headquarters, but it is uncertain what that will bring in an uncertain real estate market. The firm’s Boston Globe and regional newspaper operations lose money, so they will be hard to sell. NYT is controlled by the Sulzberger family which has super-majority voting shares. That won’t matter much when the company runs out of money. Another big media operation, perhaps News Corp (NWS) which owns The Wall Street Journal and The New York Post, will come in and auction off what it can and keep the flagship New York Times newspaper and NYTimes.com website.

7) Nortel (NT), the huge telecom equipment company, has already been mentioned as a firm which could file for bankruptcy. That may be a game to get creditors to cut down their demands. It could be that  a huge contraction in the industry which is also undermining the fortunes of competitor Alcatel-Lucent (ALU) is pulling Nortel under. Nortel keeps losing money and has cut about as many people as it can and still stay in business. With the need for its products and services falling as the recession grows. Nortel has a pension obligation which may approach $3 billion. Selling divisions in a poor credit market will be hard. A bankruptcy filing would let a court run an auction.

8) Pier 1 (PIR) trades down at $.32 from a 52-week high of $8.25. This holiday season will determine its fate. UBS recently made the comment that "We are increasingly concerned that a weakening macro environment will continue to weigh significantly upon sales at Pier 1 Imports and further undermine turnaround efforts at the chain.”  The retailer recently said that its same-store sales could fall as much as 18% during the current quarter. Long-term debt is $184 million. More losses mean debt service becomes a huge issue. No other retailer is likely to want the stores, so this is probably liquidation. The retailer's latest earnings showed a widening loss and the company said it could be delisted.

9) Charter Communications (CHTR) has over $20 billion in debt. The cable business usually drives reasonable cash flow, but Charter has to upgrade its system to better compete with telecom companies. It does not have that money. Debt service is overwhelming operating income. Billionaire Paul Allen controls that company. The stock is down to $.15. Eighteen month ago, it was close to $5. Allen will get out while he can and sell to one of the other large cable companies. Charter recently said it is "exploring financial alternatives."

10) Hovnanian (HOV) shares are down by 70% over the last year. Recently, the shares have been as low as $1.70, putting the company’s market cap at $171 million. The housing downturn may actually get worse as unemployment and foreclosures rise. The costs of credit default swaps on the homebuilder are way. JMP Securities recently commented that HOV is a ``bankruptcy risk” due to debt and exposure in the hardest hit real estate markets. A liquidation with Hovnanian would probably be an auction of land and unsold homes.

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Too many NY taxi drivers, not enough cabs for them

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NEW YORK (AP) — Many of the thousands of New Yorkers laid off in the financial crisis have turned to driving taxis, but now there are too many drivers and not enough cabs.

Garage owners say they're turning away drivers. Harlem Yellow Cab manager Syed Zahoori says on every shift people get sent home without cabs.

City officials say the number of hack licenses is at an all-time high of nearly 46,000. The number of new licenses is up 19 percent over the last three months compared with the same period last year.

There are about 13,000 taxis.

Taxi and Limousine Commission Chairman Matthew Daus says there's always an influx of drivers when the economy is bad but this period "appears to be setting some records."

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I really think in January after the new year...we are going to see LOTS of retail stores/restaraunts close...leading to lots more layoffs. I hear Lonestar Steakhouse is closing down in Akron Ohio...wonder if all of them are closing. We have 2 big stores in our mall close and it's already half empty as it is. If Sears or JC Penny's goes then that will be the end of it. I hope not.
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I talked to my sister last night, she lives in CA, works for the post office, she says people are scared with the layoffs coming. They are already laying off the seasonal workers and partime, next comes those employed less than a year. My nephew,  got laid off this week, he is a parts-runner for an auto body shop in CA.
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WASHINGTON -A staggering 2.6 million jobs disappeared in 2008, the most since World War II, and the pain is only getting worse with 11 million Americans out of work and searching. Unemployment hit a 16-year high of 7.2 percent in December and could be headed for 10 percent or even higher by year's end.
Friday's government figures were "a stark reminder," said President-elect Barack Obama, that bold and immediate government action is needed to revive a national economy that's deep in recession and still sinking.
More than a half million jobs melted away as winter took hold in December — 524,000 in all, the government estimated — and the true carnage will almost certainly turn out to be even worse when the figures are nailed down more clearly a month from now.
"Behind the statistics that we see flashing on the screens are real lives, real suffering, real fears," said Obama, already moving full-speed with Congress to put together an emergency revival plan a week and a half before taking office.
It's real, indeed, for 38-year-old Rachel Davis of St. Louis.
"If you get laid off right now, God help your soul," she said. "You better hope you've got savings or someone backing you." In fact, she was laid off three months ago after working as a dental technician for 20 years. While Congress and the new president struggle to find answers, she says, "I have no faith in this system" and plans to move out of the country in hopes of finding better luck.
The severe recession, which just entered its second year, is already the longest in a quarter-century and is likely to stretch well into this year. The fact that the country is battling a housing collapse, a lockup in lending and the worst financial crisis since the 1930s makes the downturn especially dangerous.
All the problems have forced consumers and companies alike to retrench, feeding into a vicious cycle that Washington policymakers are finding difficult to break.
Investors, too. The Dow Jones industrial average fell 143 points Friday to end the week down nearly 5 percent, the worst week since November.
The Labor Department's unemployment report showed widespread damage across U.S. industries and workers — hitting blue-collar and white-collar workers, people without high school diplomas and those with college degrees.
"One word comes to mind — dreadful," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group.
And, there's no relief in sight. The new year got off to a rough start with a flurry of big corporate layoffs, and there were more on Friday. Airplane maker Boeing  Co. said it plans to cut about 4,500 jobs this year, and uniform maker G&K Services Inc. is eliminating 460 jobs.
Employers also are cutting workers' hours and forcing some to go part-time. The average work week in December fell to 33.3 hours, the lowest in records dating to 1964 — and a sign of more job reductions in the months ahead since businesses tend to cut hours before eliminating positions entirely.
"There is no indication that the job situation would stabilize anytime soon," said Sung Won Sohn, economist at the Martin Smith School of Business at California State University. "This could turn out to be one of the worst economic setbacks since the Great Depression."
Economists predict a net total of 1.5 million to 2 million or more jobs will vanish in 2009, and the unemployment rate could hit 9 or 10 percent, underscoring the challenges Obama will face and the tough road ahead for job seekers.
All told, 11.1 million people were unemployed in December. An additional 8 million people were working part time — a category that includes those who would like to work full time but whose hours were cut back or those who were unable to find full-time work. That was up sharply from 7.3 million in November.
If those part-time employees, discouraged workers and others are factored in, the unemployment rate would have been much higher — 13.5 percent in December. That was the highest for that broader category in records going back to 1994.
Worried about the sinking economy and their own financial fortunes, companies are trimming payrolls as a way to cut costs. Government revisions showed losses in both October and November to be much deeper than previously reported.
"Clearly, the situation is dire, it is deteriorating, and it demands urgent action," Obama said Friday. "For the sake of our economy and our people, this is the moment to act, and to act without delay."
Obama, who takes over Jan. 20, is promoting a huge package of tax cuts and government spending that could total nearly $800 billion over two years. With add-ons by lawmakers, the package could swell to $850 billion or higher.
The unemployment rate zoomed from 6.8 percent in November, to 7.2 percent last month, the highest since January 1993.
The rate for blacks climbed to 11.9 percent, the highest since the spring of 1994. The rate for Hispanics rose to 9.2 percent, the highest since May 1996. The rate for teenagers rose to 20.8 percent, the highest since September 1992.
Last year was the first that payrolls had fallen for a full year since 2002, and the loss was the most since 1945, when nearly 2.8 million jobs disappeared. Though the number of payroll jobs in the U.S. has more than tripled since then, losses of this magnitude are still brutal.
The nation's jobless rate averaged 5.8 percent for the year — up sharply from 4.6 percent in 2007 and the highest since 2003.
During President George W. Bush 's nearly eight years in office, a net total of 3 million jobs were created. In President Clinton's two terms, roughly 21 million jobs were generated.
Employment last month shrank in virtually every part of the economy — construction companies, factories, mortgage brokers, banks, real-estate firms, accountants and bookkeepers, computer designers, architects and engineers, retailers, food services, temporary help firms, transportation, publishing and waste management. The few fields spared included education, health care and government.
The lost-job total for December probably understated the reality since some companies probably held off on layoffs around the holidays, economists said. Moreover, the government collects the payroll information around mid-month. So the full extent of the layoffs probably wasn't captured, making it even more likely there will be big reductions in January and that December's cuts will be revised upward.
Workers with jobs saw modest wage gains. Average hourly earnings rose to $18.36 in December, a 3.7 percent increase over the year. But high prices for energy and food through much of 2008 made people feel that their paychecks weren't stretching that far.
Corporate layoffs continue to pile up. Earlier this week, drugstore operator Walgreen  Co., managed care provider Cigna Corp., aluminum producer Alcoa  Inc., data-storage company EMC  Corp., Intermec Inc., which makes electronic devices for tracking inventory, and computer products maker Logitech International announced major layoffs to cope with the recession.
AP Business Writer Christopher Leonard in St. Louis contributed to this report.
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I think they can back off the gloom just a bit...the companies as we know toss people off like crazy in December for the books...then we see a rather good size hiring again in April.  Seems to happen every year.
 
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It was actually said that...
 
 
Held in a room and terrified... the shivering congress agreed to everything.
 
 AIG (AIG) may be the biggest mess
 
of all the financial firms that the federal government has bailed out. Uncle Sam has given AIG $153 billion in loans. The theory is that the money gets paid back by the huge insurance company selling assets. Investors don’t seem very sanguine about that. AIG shares trade at $1.60, down from a 52-week high of $60.04.
 
Congress seems less and less enamored of having a lot of money sitting in troubled companies.
 
Watch for the new administration to get frustrated quickly and appoint its own people to auction off AIG divisions. Better to get something back than keep writing AIG checks.
 
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I agree but I think most of us would agree they shouldnt have bailed them out in the first place. 
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Originally posted by July July wrote:


WASHINGTON -A staggering 2.6 million jobs disappeared in 2008, the most since World War II, and the pain is only getting worse with 11 million Americans out of work and searching. Unemployment hit a 16-year high of 7.2 percent in December and could be headed for 10 percent or even higher by year's end.
Friday's government figures were "a stark reminder," said President-elect Barack Obama, that bold and immediate government action is needed to revive a national economy that's deep in recession and still sinking.


Unemployment rates naturally fluctuate from the low 2' to the 10's all the time and this is nothing new. Looking at this graph we can easily see that it does not even seem to be related to who is president or many other factors:

http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp

And PE Obama is completely in error when he says we are deep in recession. We are not in a recession as the economy has not had two consecutive quarters of negative growth. Even if we pretend that the data says we are in a recession it is certainly not deep.

Lastly, the last thing we need is government action to try to fix this. another time they tried to fix a recession the fix caused the great depression.

The first thing we need to do is to stop listening to people who are trying to convince of something that just is not that bad or just not true.
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Times are only bad if it affects you. Just found out my next door neighbor lost her job. If she does not find one by March her house is in jeapordy.

Have neighbors across the street, he has been working at the local hardware store instead of doing mortgage business for a year and now his wife's work has slowed and she is not sure she will have any work...they have three kids.

Times are really bad because all of these people were doing really well over a year ago now all are worried they will lose their homes.

Times are bad it is all local!
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Times are only bad if it affects you. Just found out my next door neighbor lost her job. If she does not find one by March her house is in jeapordy.

Have neighbors across the street, he has been working at the local hardware store instead of doing mortgage business for a year and now his wife's work has slowed and she is not sure she will have any work...they have three kids.

Times are really bad because all of these people were doing really well over a year ago now all are worried they will lose their homes.

Times are bad it is all local!


I used to do mortgages a few years ago too. So yes that is not the field to be in now. But I am glad to hear that these people were doing well over a year ago.

Did they listen to Suze Ormon (sp?) or countless others five or more years ago when she told them to save 20% of their incomes and to accumulate 8 months of money in the bank? They would have had a full years salary in the bank and it would probably have doubled with interest if they had. If they had saved 10% of their incomes and it doubled they would still have had a full years income in the bank. Even if they had saved 5% of their incomes they would still have a comfortable amount of money.

Don't we talk about prepping constantly on this site? This can be a lesson to all of us on the importance of prepping money as well as food.
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I think it is happening everywhere around us, so it is not just your area. Our area we are being told, has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country, so far the "housing crisis" has not hit here yet, houses are still being built, bought and sold. Hard times are just starting here in this area, with the higher price of groceries our food banks are being utilized at higher rates. Our restuarants are half empty. We did not see any great sales at Christmas here in our area like I was seeing on the news on tv, here people were buying like crazy, the stores were packed, register lines were long. Things have slacked off since Christmas though.
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same here in nys.  Jan is the month all the shop owners and small rest. take off. Then they are back to gear up for Valentines Day. 
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Gee, Dr. Who I am not rude enough to ask people who are hurting those questions and how much people save is really none of my business. I have had very hard times in my life and I can tell you that sometimes it is not possible to save any income.

I know what you are trying to say that people did not plan for a rainy day and I am sure many people did not but life sucks sometimes. Having been through some very bad times myself, I really feel for people who are having very hard times.

Telling people they screwed up because they were lax,or stupid, or dumb, people and did not save is no help. I pray for them and ask God to help these people and help these people in any way I can. Sometimes it is just a kind word.

My point is that times are bad for those that are directly hit and the more people that get hit the worse it gets for the whole country.
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Did they listen to Suze Ormon (sp?) or countless others five or more years ago when she told them to save 20% of their incomes and to accumulate 8 months of money in the bank? They would have had a full years salary in the bank and it would probably have doubled with interest if they had. If they had saved 10% of their incomes and it doubled they would still have had a full years income in the bank. Even if they had saved 5% of their incomes they would still have a comfortable amount of money.

Don't we talk about prepping constantly on this site? This can be a lesson to all of us on the importance of prepping money as well as food.
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DR Who..ClapClapClapdon't we like to quote that old chestnut about being a foolish grasshopper in the summer around here. Well it's WINTER!!!!!These people did not plan to fail....they failed to plan.Tough olll world" keep your stick on the ice"  Canadian expression for GET IN THE GAME....RC 
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Well maybe you should have saved for a rainy day and may be not.  If we have high inflation, it will eat all your savings so maybe not to saving.  And I do believe the quantitive easing will do just that.
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Good post Flumom.Thumbs%20Up
 
Be careful Dr. Who...That's a mighty high pedestal to fall off of.
 
Six years ago our home was worth $120,000.00 more than it is now.  Our mortgage came in well under the 30% suggested.  We had a small savings, yet put as much as we could into preparing our homestead so that in bad times we'd be better off.  That meant we added livestock, poultry, a large garden and so on. 
 
A year ago animal feed skyrocketed along with everything else.  Our meat supply is still much cheaper than what can be bought in the stores.  However, there's alot of money invested out there on the hoof. 
 
Now, say my husband gets laid off.  And we can pay all of our bills for three months.  Then what?  If we needed to sell our home we're going to owe back on the mortgage.  Renting in our area would cost us more than our monthly mortgage.  And what about the gardens that we have prepped?  Or the livestock?  Can't have any of that either.
 
In times like these everyone can be hit and hit hard.  Preppers and non preppers alike.  And what's worse is the people who aren't terribly bad off can't receive any benefits, even though they are usually the ones that paid the most into the "system." 
 
I'm with Flumom, pray for all people, including the ones that judge everyone else.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Gee, Dr. Who I am not rude enough to ask people who are hurting those questions and how much people save is really none of my business. I have had very hard times in my life and I can tell you that sometimes it is not possible to save any income.

I know what you are trying to say that people did not plan for a rainy day and I am sure many people did not but life sucks sometimes. Having been through some very bad times myself, I really feel for people who are having very hard times.

Telling people they screwed up because they were lax,or stupid, or dumb, people and did not save is no help. I pray for them and ask God to help these people and help these people in any way I can. Sometimes it is just a kind word.

My point is that times are bad for those that are directly hit and the more people that get hit the worse it gets for the whole country.


I don't lack compassion for them. I simply know that they are not here and I was speaking to those who are here about the lesson we can learn. I did not ask them any questions I asked questions for those of us who are here. I was not rude to them because I was speaking to those of us here.  And I never said they screwed up or were stupid. I would point out that the person who posted the info said they were doing well a year ago - so they were not caught in a situation beyond their control.



I too pray and give generously.
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I think it's important that we're always aware of who may be reading our posts.  Anyone of us could be in a really bad situation.  Just assuming all of us here aren't those other people is never a good idea.
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Originally posted by ParanoidMom ParanoidMom wrote:

I think it's important that we're always aware of who may be reading our posts.  Anyone of us could be in a really bad situation.  Just assuming all of us here aren't those other people is never a good idea.


Singling people out for unsolicited advise would be rude.

Using a common situation, that any of us could experience, as a basis for a learning experience, when the persons being discussed are not present, is not rude.

Discussing pitfalls that any of us could fall into and that someone may read and decide that the shoe fits is not rude.

I assume most of us are here to learn primarily about bird flue and prepping. talking about the importance of prepping is a valuable part of the forum

I suspect the misunderstanding here is one of perspective. I viewed Flumom's post as one contributing to the overall topic in a way that we could all learn from and add our own insights. Perhaps she was just sharing from her personal experiences albeit vicariously and did not want the situation to be used as a starting point for anything else.

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In the paper they announced they wre laying off another  800 people at Cummins which is a big supplier of diesel engines . i think it was around  the world in Indiana it has the one of the largest employments here and if they layoff  alot of employees here the whole city would be hurting.
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Originally posted by Dr.Who Dr.Who wrote:

the misunderstanding here is one of perspective. I viewed Flumom's post as one contributing to the overall topic in a way that we could all learn from and add our own insights. Perhaps she was just sharing from her personal experiences albeit vicariously and did not want the situation to be used as a starting point for anything else.

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What he said!!!"albeit vicariously"...thanks I will make good  use of that terminology at my next meeting when dealing with simular circumstancesWink
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