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My wonderful 21 jars of Manuka honey were delivered today. The sellers added a gift of 2 jars that are 1kg each. Very generous.
Also received 5 - 1# bags of tomato powder and 5 - 1/2# bags of diced, dried tomatoes as well as some seasonings. The 4# cans of ghee that I ordered (4 of them) arrived today too. The cans are dented, but I will probably open them and can the contents in smaller jars for storage. Guess I didn't realize how large a 4.4# can was. |
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Today I bought plastic silerware, paperplates, more water, and lots of plastic garbage bags.I have a feeling that the first thing that they cut would be weekly garbage pickup. I remember when they were on strike and we had to double bag everything. It was only a week or so, but not fun.
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I'm sure this has been asked somewhere but, has anyone ordered from Honeyville? I was looking at the powdered eggs and milk.
I have...I order 2 #10 cans of eggs and 3# 10 cans of milk and they were great...I had my order in about 8 days...the box was packed prefectly with peanuts and you can't beat the shipping
Hope this helps...I need to order more milk
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May 19 Went to sam for a few item... $600.00 dollars later Ouch. Some was for house some for camping next week. so about 300.00 preps.
I filled my cart up went out to the car and went back in for a few more things...Yeah right...My suburban was filled.. 25 lbs flour, 10 lbs sugar, 2 brick of Yeast(3.51). Which is so much cheaper than buying those packets of 3...for $1.00 Peas
chicken to can lots of chicken thighs breast whole chicken...
pork
hamburger meat.
10 pk mushroom soup
12 pk chicken noodle soup
oil
oat meal
cereal
1 bottle purell Hand sanitizer
cheese doodles long shelf life.
string beans
2 more cases juice
1 large bottle of cranberry apple
2 more lg bottle of apple juice
gram crackers
nuts
bread crumbs (3) more cans
6 jars spaghetti sauce
2 6 lb bags of egg noddles
1 tri color 6 lbs twist spaghetti
bisquick 3 more boxes
cat food to replace the one I took.. bounty rolls 12 doubles rolls
bow tie speggetti
brownie mix
pumkin bread mix
beefaroni
zip lock bags
12 oz paper cups so we can burn them...(In case garbage pick up is halted)
lysol
Bassmai rice although I have no idea how to cook it...someone said it was really good. 20 lbs
20 lbs of potato's which I will rotate often. One potato is so big I could feed family with 2 potato's. Russets. 20 more lb's are already down in basement.
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HappyC ... when you say #10 ... do you mean 10 pound can??? When I was checking the site, it describes:
Each can contains 2.25 pounds of Dried Powdered Egg Whites for Food Storage
Thanks -k
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[QUOTE=HappyCamper]
May 19 Went to sam for a few item... $600.00 dollars later Ouch. Some was for house some for camping next week. so about 300.00 preps.
If that was me ... I'd be buying as much as I could for preps ... and letting my DH think it was for camping!!! |
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Readymom,
Did you ever get copies of the movie? Sitting her with bated breath. or is that bad breath? |
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yes ... do you want one?? Email me @ TK3promotions@comcast.net w/ your address, if you do... that's my home-bsns email address. I had posted that earlier this week ... you may have missed it! -k
re bad breath .... depends ... what was for dinner tonight??
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Where is the best place to buy powdered eggs? Anybody want to help me butcher all our hens?
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Rhonda
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Old as Rocks.......... I bought mine at Honeyville Grain , I purchased a canister of the whole eggs and it is sealed and has approx. 170 eggs worth and will last 5-10 years if unopened. Cost $9.99 . They only charge 4.50 shipping . Check out the site they have lots of good items( hot chocolate ,flour , baking mixes etc. Good Luck
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Rhonda
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PS.................I'll pass on the hen butchering.
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MelodyAtHome
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HappyCamper, I went to Home Depot, $125 yesterday and $300 at marc's today and I realized on was on empty. I have always thought of myself as "prepared" for anything. I realized I had let my stash dwindle down next to not much. Even with a total of $425 in 2 days I see I need a whole lot more money to get a lot more things...and really just need more of the basics. Shame on me.
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MercutioATC
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I can answer that. No. A #10 can (number ten can) is a 12-13 cup can (the size of a coffee can). The weight depends on what's in it. |
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Mrs. T
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HappyCamper,
Thank You, I am going to order from them tomorrow.
Everyone here is so friendly and helpfull.
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Well Rhonda at least come over for some scrambled eggs- ha ha. I
placed an order. I found a place for canned hamburger etc but am
a little afraid of it. If our juice goes out the freezeer isn't
going to work very good. We have a full house generator but cannot run
it full time and have propane last .
I wish I could can those old hens and some beef too like Grandma used to. |
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We went to the wholesale chemist and bought a digital thermometer and a over-size 'eye-droper' doodad.
Will use that to administer ORS to a sick patient.
Looking for 'adult' nappies - any ideas?
OJ
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Scout motto - "Be Prepared"
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oldasrocks,you might want to dehydrate hamburger for storage, I amdoing that and it works well. Also lighter if you need to travel. You fry up the burger done & rinse well with hot water, spread out on cookie sheet and bake on 200 for a few hours.When it's crumbly it's done. Store in an airtight container. Good for years. Jo
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Safety Lady
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Adult nappies try Depends They are what some of the adult homes use. |
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MelodyAtHome
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To Mamasjob: You said...
I have also ordered masks, tamiflu, sombocal syrup(for adults and kids), and latex gloves....have zinc, vit c, and vit a ...in bulk.
Where may I ask did you get tamiflu and the syrup? What is the syrup used for?
I only have 1 box of Tamiflu that I convinced my hubby's doctor to give us this past winter(I didn't mention bird flu or he wouldn't have given to us)
Thanks. |
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HappyC ... when you say #10 ... do you mean 10 pound can??? When I was checking the site, it describes:
Each can contains 2.25 pounds of Dried Powdered Egg Whites for Food Storage
Thanks -k
Yes it's 2.25 pounds . Not egg whites I bought powered eggs...I didnt want just egg whites...
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HappyC ... when you say #10 ... do you mean 10 pound can??? When I was checking the site, it describes:
Each can contains 2.25 pounds of Dried Powdered Egg Whites for Food Storage
Thanks -k
Yes its 2.25 but not eggs whites...I bought the whole egg powder...170 eggs... It was 9.99 which I believe to be a really good price...
bought 2 egg containers
3 powered milk
Only 4.95 for shipping and thats a set price no matter what you buy.
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Thanks Happy C ... that's what I meant ... I cc'd the wrong item. But doesn't matter, the can size is the same,I think. I just wanted to clarify that I'm looking at the right things! I'm grateful for your help! -k
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Richard
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Hi Can you please give me the name of the pharmacy that you ordered from in Canada. Do I need a script. My son is a diabetic and is also on the pump
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Pegasus
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Hi all. I've been 'reading' this site for a few weeks but this is my first post. Thanks to all for your great prep & storage ideas. I am glad to see that my years of 'obsessive hoarding' are now known and accepted socially as 'disaster preparedness'. I have about 3 months of food & a month of bottled water on hand so this week was about OTC meds: Advil/Tylenol & childrens versions of both, vapor rub, rubbing alcohol, Nyquil, Benadryl - liquid is my preference for swallowing purposes - especially when ill), throat drops, condoms (preventive medicine in my book!), more bandaids & antibiotic ointment since I am considered the first aid queen of my neighborhood and paper products (paper plates, styrofoam plates, paper towels, TP, 6 more boxes of tissues) as well as trash bags (13 gal & 30 gal) and a couple bins to store my dry goods (rice/pasta/potato flakes).
Of course I can't shop anymore without getting a cart load of stuff! So I also got 3 cans of Lysol spray, 3 bottles of Lysol liquid cleaner, 2 400- oz bottles of detergent, lightbulbs, a can of ant spray, 3 40-oz bottles of hand sanitizer, an industrial size box of dog biscuits, 8 bags of beef jerkey, 30 packs of gum (stress reduction), a couple hand tools that will go into my own emergency tool box and a few N95 grade masks (check the tool section of WalMart if you can't find them in stock in the health products aisle).
Kinda broke the bank on this weeks trips (and the ladies at WalMart now recognize me!) so next week will be about fine tuning the storage area to create more space and better access. Aside from a couple cans of 'emergency' Spam/Turkey Spam, I have tried to not buy anything my family wouldn't normally use. That way I can judge what I need and it's stuff that will help us be prepared for ANY emergency that arises. I was very ill this winter for about 2 months and was glad to have enough rice, pasta & pop-top canned goods/soups stocked to sustain my family pretty well.
I do find myself much more aware of the expiration dates on everything now. Have been finding a lot of awesome stuff that I normally use on the clearance racks with long expiration dates at both WalMart and Target lately. Thanks again to everyone. Edited by Pegasus - May 20 2006 at 3:24pm |
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Welcome Pegasus! Sounds like you're well on your way! -k
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mamasjob
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We get her insulin from www.GetCanadianDrugs.com
They provide wonderful service....you do have to pay the shipping expedite fee...as they have to ship it PRONTO due to the insulin storage factor. They ship the insulin with little cold packs, and I received my most recent order in just 2 days from placing the order.
For the record...I am not affiliated with them in any way...other than a pleased customer.
PS...you don't need a prescription for the Humalog insulin like you do in the US.....so, it makes ordering in bulk much easier.
Best wishes...
PSS....have you stocked up a bit on his pump supplies? I ordered enough to last 2 months....we don't have insurance coerage for this type of stuff...so, I maxed out my credit card. I know we will use it...and it does give me piece of mind.
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mamasjob
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Melody4Avon~ Regarding "Sombacol"....it is ELDERBERRY Syrup...recommended by a naturopathic doctor...comes highly recommended to shorten the life of influenza (not clear about H5N1)
I have friends who SWEAR by it....most recently when our school was hit with the "flu" this past winter.
I am going to try and paste information I found about more alternative approaches to flu management. (please note that these recommendations were made for the regular ol' influenza...not necessarily BF) I am keeping supplies on hand to help our bodies overall viral "load" and ability to fight it off.
This is some of the information I found:
(the ND who posted this sites the research that he found to support the recommendation)
If you come down with a flu: Realize antibiotics are not effective. Garlic, raw or in capsule form, is a powerful antiviral.
Black Elderberry tastes better than garlic, but is harder to add to food.
A broad range of other herbs have antiviral effects, and you may be taking them for other reasons. A short list of studied herbs include: Rheum officinale, Aloe barbadensis, Rhamnus frangula, Rhamnus purshianus, Cassia angustifolia, Germanium sanguineum, Urtica dioica, Scutellaria baicalensis, and Eleutherococcus senticosus. Many of these herbs have other effects, including laxative effects, so consult a naturopathic doctor before trying them. |
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MelodyAtHome
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Mamasjob...do you know where I can get these natural alternatives like the black elderberry? I am thinking the garlic capsules maybe I can get at the drugstore? Thanks.
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mamasjob
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http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?submit.x=7&Ntk=products&csrc=EM-DAILY20060518%3asearch&submit.y=10&Ntt=sombacol
Melody4Avon~ This is where I purchased our Sombaol....through Vitacost.com
Their prices are the best I have found....and if I remember correctly...I got free shipping, too....because I ordered over a certain amount or something..
When I have been compiling my "preparation" list...I am including things like garlic, sombacol, vit c, zinc.....so, I can fortify our immune systems...in the terrible event we DO get exposed to BF.
I will continue to add to the prep list as I come across info on the net.
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Mrs. T
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I just emailed a local radio talk show asking them to do a show on BF.
I told them it would be interesting to know what peoples thoughts were on the governments recomendations to prepare for a pandemic, if they thought it was all hype, or a real possiblity, if they are prepping, or ignoring it because they believe it will never happen, etc., etc.
Now I'm waiting for an email back telling me I'm nuts!
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I put flour sugar in pasta in coolers..This should be air tight and I have 2 coolers.
Also bought
3 daks ham
more bounty
and I'm running out of shelf space so it's trickling outwards toward the stairs...Figure this should drive DH to making me more shelves.
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Water Storage I would be very careful with water storage, it is drinking water and it may have to keep for a long time. I recommend checking any industrial areas (factories) for 55 gallon drums. I picked up 6, like new condition (plastic) for free at a Cable manufacture. You need some kind of liner. My drums had plastic pellets transported in them but they did use liners. A residue from the pellets and a residue from the drum it's self could bleed back into the drinking water. I picked up liners off the internet http://www.bestcontainers.com for approximatley $4 each that includes shipping and handling. 2 jugs of quality chlorine bleach (5-8 drops per gallon) I picked up that info off another site. Plus a eye dropper for the bleach. The drums weigh approximately 450 pounds each when full, so unless you have a concrete floor, you might spread them out. Some of this might be obvious hope it helped. Good luck Bill |
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I've been outside trying to clean up our dirtpile to plant some squash and potatoes in.
Had to give the tomatoes and peppers a drink as we've had record high temperatures here in OK for this time of year. I am SO behind on everything outside and whatever I get into the ground could be a wonderful supplement to the stored goods. |
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MAN !! You guys are all so prepared...and some great ideas. I have been hoarding away all sorts for a time. I have some HUGE lidded plastic square bins on roller feet and filled with our normal range of foods/medicines. All 6 are chockker now(too heavy to roll so they are staying put) went on to boxes and now thinking of using some loft space and shelves. Have stored water and I add to that each day.Have bags and bags and bags of rice ..dont really know how many to get ??? and so grab a bag each time I see it..figure the dog will be eating it too.Spend lots of time reminding family and friends to keep prepping. Noticing 'some' preppers out and about but MANY/MOST not doing a thing. Told a few fibs recently as to WHY? I needed 80 litres of bleach.Worry all the time that I havn't stored enough..what is enough? When do you stop? Visit here frequently to check what you are all buying so that I dont miss anything important..THANKS for all your help.
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I bought a bunch of staples this weekend -- taking them up to my father's cabin in N. AZ next weekend. We'll all hole up there (six of us total) if it hits. Bear in mind I'm actually fairly "country" and know how to cook from scratch. Also, the cabin has a rather unlimited supply of dead ponderosa pine for outdoor cooking (beans, tortillas, etc.) Plus a large propane tank for indoor cooking.
Got: 100 pounds of flour -- 75 lbs of bread flour, 25 pounds of all purpose flour (with tortillas in mind). 50 lbs of rice 25 lbs of sugar 25 pounds of salt (with meat preservation in mind -- jerky) Couple of one-pound bricks of yeast Baking soda, baking powder Two 5 ltr jugs of oil Case of coffee Several cases of canned tomatoes & canned chilis Various and sundry hygiene products. Couple of pounds of lard (for tortillas) Packed all the dry goods in five gallon buckets. This adds to a sizable selection of canned food, spices, etc. Some of the canned foods are rather eclectic, but hey, variety is good when your primary diet is rice, beans, tortillas, and bread. After several weeks of rice and beans the canned octopus (a gag gift last Christmas) may actually start looking edible. I'm going to add more of everything -- this was a start, to get my folks used to the idea *LOL* (though my father, at least, agrees this is a good idea). I also want to find a good source for: Bulk cornmeal -- maybe a restaraunt supply house? Bulk powdered milk that DOESN'T come in cardboard boxes. Mice ... I could repackage it in mason jars, but I'd rather not. Cocoa powder. |
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OK it work......having my prep trickle out into the basement almost at the stair my Husband built me more shelves....LOL....
I knew the mess would drive him nuts...
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MelodyAtHome
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I had my husband go to the barn and pull out any camping supplies we bought before 2000. Cooktop stove with propane, lanterns and such.
Bought masks, gloves, batteries, food, medical type stuff like advil, motrin, tylenol and also the flu ones, along with other oTC meds. Reorganized med closet and threw out old meds.
Husband will be chopping some new wood to start drying out...which we need anyway for our freezing cold winters.
Got more water and will continue stocking from store as we go.
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kersone is cheaper than lamp oil , walmart has lanterns that say kersone or lamp oil, alot cheaper at about 2dollars and fifty cents a gallon. Kymom
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is the filter something easy to make?
if so maybe you could post plans
thanks boo
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Hello everyone, Can anyone tell me where to buy onion juice? I have checked Walmart's and another local food store. Thanks
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a response to loco...........the #10 cans are fine frome nitro, but may i suggest going to wallmart,for 250$, you can get a very limeted supply of #10 food stuffs from a "survival" supplyer. where as at wall mart or say sams club you can get every day canned /dry food stuff at aprox 2/3 less .. now the shelf life will be shorter say2 yrs but let me say from personal experiance after looking my Y2k pantry 3 yrs later....updating and restocking ,eating what was still good,my wast was minimal at 3 yrs ..... so if you can live with a 2 year stock plan ....store bought canned goods are a no brainer plus if you rotate.......it will always be there. Now one last thing mres and long life food is fine for a single person or meybe two people bot store bought ot better for a family....kids and all...just my oppinion
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The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself......FDR
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"We went to the wholesale chemist and bought a digital thermometer and a over-size 'eye-droper' doodad." Thanks Ozjohn. I shall get a turkey baster or something to feed liquid to a sick patient. I once had to feed my then 16 year old elder daughter water from a teaspoon when she had a raging temperature from glandular fever and was also barely able to swallow. I was not popular, but it saved her going into hospital (dehydration). Beth
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Boo,
The gravity filter setup is fairly simple to make. All you need is 2 food-grade 5 gallon buckets with lids and a black berkey (or your preference) filter element. Others have posted excellent pictures and instructions in this forum in the "priority preparations/water" areas. Just look there.
JTG
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1,000 7.62x39 FMJ
1,200 7.62x39 HP
AA & AAA Ni-Cad batteries
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