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    Posted: January 29 2006 at 4:58pm

Important information about mental health issues during a pandemic.

Boredom.

Depression.

Anxiety.

Keeping busy.

Panic.

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boredom; Playing cards and a shortwave radio with a hand crank dynamo.  toys and board games as well....  bring lots of books and  magazines.. sewing, knitting and doing hobbies will be something for you to do.

Bring a logbook for you to make a diary...

Depression:

See Boredom

 

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"They" say having comfort foods like candy, chocolate, booze(is that really a food), etc can lessen the psychological impact of a devastating event.

I'm not afraid, I'm paranoid. Dont talk too loud, they are listening.
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Moderate Exercise

I recommend having a way to exercise indoors. A treadmill, indoor bike, anything. Exercise is a proven method of fighting depression and anxiety, and will help to not feel too cooped up if you are quarantined inside your home. And exercise helps us to stay healthy.

Just be careful not to exercise so much that you increase your daily caloric or water needs (would make your supplies run out faster).
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Books! Build yourself a library from second hand book stores or from friends that are done with that pile stacked in the corner. Include magazines and in particular the classics as they can be read  and read again. Also, my I suggest material that would be new and different to you, you may find a whole new interest when the time is vailable to you. When the time comes maybe reading to each other would be a wonderful way to share time and be entertained, take turns picking the topics - another way to dicover a new interest or just find out what your loved ones are interested in.
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stock up on pencils,pens crayons, paper..for young kids...oh and don,t forget pencil sharpeners...
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RE Books -- check out the books at thrift stores. There are almost always some books there..... -- Libby
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What a perfect time to learn a foreign language, organize, paint, or practice a martial art.

I've tried several techniques.  My favorite is Gracie Jiu-Jitsu.  These guys are the real deal.  They have a whole series of books, tapes and DVDs.

Not only are you getting exercise, but you will feel more confident in protecting yourself and family.



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It's not so much the apocalypse... but the credit card bills ;-)
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Also re mental health issues -- I worry about folks who are on anti-psychotic drugs or even anti-depressants. How will they get their meds? -- LIbby
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Well, the psychotics could be dangerous.

But the depressed people... an interesting thing happens to the human mind when the fight to survive kicks in.  IMHO the depressed people will do ok as long as that survival instinct kicks in.

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I volunteered for several summers at a mental health clinic, and Libby, you are right to worry about  people who are not able to get their medications.  I saw how difficult it was to get many of the people to take their mediciations as directed by their doctors on a daily basis--and they had the help and support of the mental health agency.  Many of the people i worked with had been in and out of mental hospitals and had no family or friends who were able to help them.  If  there was pandemic, and if facilities closed, I don't know where they would go or what they would do.  I DON'T  believe that many of the patients were violent or dangerous, but many had very serious disorders and would not be able to function at all without daily medication. I feel terrible for someone who would face such a situation.
Sorry I know that this is thread is supposed to offer advice on mental helath issues, so feel free to move this to another area. But maybe I can offer some advice:  if you have friends or family who requires daily medication for any form of mental illness, ask them to get a few extra refills of their medication. If you have any children who require daily  medications (for example, anti-depressants), make sure you discuss with your child's doctor what to do about his or her medicine in the event of a pandemic. It is NOT advised to abruptly stop taking certain mediciations (such as certain anti-depressants or Blood Pressure medicines)-- there may be side-effects from a sudden withdrawl of medicine. (the doctor may advice you to "wean" a patient off certain mediciations to avoid withdrawl symptoms and side effects) so take this into consideration in the event that you think you may run out of medicine!!!!!  (PLEASE talk to your doctor about what he or she feels is best for you!)



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I will leave these for a while...they address something that is of grave importance.  Perhaps it will elicit some helpful feedback.
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Also - Books of Importance to consider:

Books on Grieving
Books on Post Traumatic Stress
Books on the tactical use of weapons, if you are new to them.
Books on survivor psychology.
Books on Command/Command Decisions.

There will alot of death and a lot of opportunities to help others that we may choose not to take.  There may be people, close people, who did NOT prepare that we cannot help and who then die.  While we are all focused, now, on prepartion, we need to also focus on preparing psychologically for the death we will feel responsible for.  We are NOT going to help many people outside of our close inner circle, but there are going to be MANY that know that we have been 'up to something' in regards to Avian Flu, because, to be preparing for this, we have already been trying t prepare our friends and family and encourage them to do as we are.  These people will remember us in their hour of need and we are going to have to reject a good many of them.  We therefore have friends, the children of friends, the parents of friends, die as a result of our decsions to withhold help from them in order to preserve our loved ones....and, when all of this is over, and, God willing, we survive, those who we did not help are going to remember us - even if we helped a little, but not enough.

I believe that the hardest part of surviving will not be lack of preparition.  With a little more time, we may all be prepared enough to last out the illness.  The hardest part is going to be the friends and neighbors and the guilt and psychological stress of being in "survivor" mode and what we may have to deal with during and after.

So - I encourage us to stock up on books that will help us on that and validate our feelings and help us deal with it.  I believe it will be easy to shoot an intruder dead - But I also believe I will have a hard time letting my receptionist's child or my daughter's boyfriends parents die because I don't extend them aid.  But, as we all know - it's hard enough trying to save our selves.  Do we have it within our selves to shoot the innocent clinging to the side of the lifeboat, not because they want our place in the boat, but just so they don't drown?  One or two will not capsize us, but many of them would and, we are going to be faced with a storm of them. 

I don't know about many on this board, but I, personally, have not TRULY ever been in literal command of the Power of Life or Death of other human beings - and we may well find ourselves in the position of having to wield that power with many people that we already know.


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  Boy this is heavy stuff. I'm glad you brought it up.  I have thought about it on the surface, but not in dept like you put it.  You have given me a lot to think about . 
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Different mental health issues to be aware of:

Some 1918 Pandemic victims suffered mental health problems as a result of the Influenza itself (source: account of a 1918 survivor in New Zealand)

Side-effects of antiviral medications:

Report that Tamiflu caused mental problems in some children, such as suicidal tendancies, when used a a phrophylactic (sp?) in Japan

Amantadine has a number of fairly common mental-health side effects in susceptible individuals. As it is also a Parkinsons drug, I can speculate that these side effects are the result of Amantadine's effect on one or more neurotransmitters (eg Dopamine). If so the effects may be similar to the temporary psychosis that can occur in susceptible individuals who take Amphetamines.

These drug-induced mental problems should disappear when the drug is no longer taken, though the experience may leave a permanent mark on the personality.

Changes in diet due to limited supplies may also cause mental health issues, though not as extreme.
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Grief is something we are going to face. Not because of deaths, but because of the loss of lifestlye. Were gonna have to greive for alot of things to be able to go foward.

As oddas this may sound Ive even started thinking past the losses even now . Im starting to focus more and more on the positives - told you it was strange

Im going to have my son and his family with us, the positives of having my grandkids living with me are starting to sink in. Having time to do hobbies ect. Time to get to know my daughter in law more [ who is a blessing ] Not going to work is looking better and better , Im gonna have the luxury of stopping to smell the roses. 

One thing Ive decided not to do is watch much news - Everything i could do will be done and focusing on whats going on in the outside world is not going to be a positive for my mental state. Will keep news to a minimum 

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My husband and I love to read... we read all the time.  Most of the books at second hand stores, we've read, atleast those in the genre we enjoy.

So I'm going to get lots of books outside our usual genre.  If anyone is in the Carolinas and needs hundreds of mystery/murder/spooky  books let me know and I'll send you what we have just piled around.

As far as the kids.... I have a daughter in college.  She is cool as long as there is power and she can IM her pals.  She's also interested in various art mediums, and loves to design clothes..... so she gets lots of fabrics, vintage clothing, art supplies and lots of sewing stuff.

My husband has a 17 year old.  I figure if someone in Florida can hook me up with a bale I don't have to worry about him for a year. (please pm me on this one - don't post on the thread).

My husband also has a 26 year old college student with two dogs that each weigh over 100 lbs and one cat.  We're hoping to entice her into staying with her gramma (read = cash) until this is over.

So..... I figure lots of books, arts, crafts, sewing, and weed, and we're good to go!  I'd love to get some board games, but no one will play Boggle with me anymore and I don't have enough booze for quarters....

But in all seriousness, we will read, cook, garden, clean.  My husband is what's considered an "essential" gov 't worker.  I'm a gov't worker also, but have signed up for various first aid classes and joined the red cross.  I figure the young ones are at risk, and since I"m over 40 and my husband will be on the front lines, I'll do the same.  But with the exception of illegal contriband, I'll have everything else in abundance to keep them from getting bored.

Poor babies.....  some of us had the benefit of growing up with minimum tv and no computer games.....

If nothing else, this will be a wake up call to the next, and emerging, generation...


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Read Psalms.
 
Stretch, and do isometrics.
 
Read a classic.
 
Pray.
 
Be thankful in all circumstances.
 
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I watched a news program last night that said there are 14.3 million people in the U.S. taking anti-depressants.
Get a clue if you're one of them.  When the SHTF there isn't going to be a pharmacy left standing, and if you think you're depressed now, just hold on a bit.
If you're not one of them, here's something to consider.  14.3 Million people off their meds...can't be good, can't be good for anybody.
I have some experience with acquaintances and a family members who got  "cut off" their anti-deoressants, and let me inform you - it wasn't good, even in the best of times.
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Mtn. Man-
 
It is interesting that you seem to be the first post to suggest a religious response, praying and reading the Psalms.
 
Yet a review of much of the survival literature repeatedly documents the positive effects of religious belief.
 
Psalms is particularly good because King David had a lot to be depressed about. 
He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.Proverbs 13:20, The Bible
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