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Advocates call foul on CDC cuts in GOP Obamacare repeal bill


Washington (CNN) — Public health advocates are warning lawmakers the GOP plan to repeal Obamacare will eliminate nearly $1 billion in Centers for Disease Control and Prevention funding used for programs like preventing disease outbreaks and childhood lead poisoning.

But Republican critics say the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which amounts to 12% of CDC's budget, is a "slush fund" that has been spent on Zumba classes and massage sessions. Their proposal includes a new fund that they say provides states "broad flexibility" to address local health concerns.

The Republican bill would eliminate the fund, created under the Affordable Care Act, which has grown from a small slice of the CDC budget to providing $931 million last year.

It funds heart disease and stroke prevention, immunization, lead poisoning prevention and diabetes prevention, mostly through grants to states and local programs, according to the CDC.

CDC's website says losing this funding would cripple officials' ability to detect, prevent and respond to health threats including pandemic flu.

Public health advocates agree.

While Republicans and Democrats clashed over the bill in two House committees Wednesday and into Thursday, representatives from the non-profit Coalition for Health Funding were on the other side of Capitol Hill trying to convince Republican lawmakers to have a change of heart.

"The senators we met with were generally receptive but I'm not sure we're making headway in changing minds," said Emily Holubowich, the executive director of the group.

The Association of State and Territorial Health Officials called it "a must for keeping states and communities healthy and safe," and said a quarter of the block grants are spent on programs that strengthen responses to "public health threats."

Holubowich told CNN that "the funding is critical to the states and their efforts to protect the public," and accused Republicans of playing politics with health care.

"My sense is they (Republicans) in general support public health and disease surveillance but they are committed to repealing this fund mostly because its part of the Affordable Care Act," she said.

The Republican bill does include a new program that includes grants to states to address health issues.

But that allotment, the Patient and State Stability Fund, would not be administered by the CDC and appears aimed at the high costs of health insurance, rather than funding public health programs.

It is designed to broadly "help low-income Americans afford health care and to repair the damage done to state markets by ObamaCare," Rep. Greg Walden, R-Oregon, wrote in an op-ed published in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday.

"If they choose, states may also use these resources to increase access to preventive services, like getting an annual checkup. This program gives states new tools and flexibility to care for their unique patient populations," Walden wrote.

If the fund is eliminated all 50 states and the District of Columbia would lose millions in grants. Some of the biggest recipients include California, New York, Texas and Pennsylvania
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Perfect storm - a healthcare system in crisis, reduced funding for the agencies tasked with monitoring and dealing with disease outbreaks, and novel viruses spreading in animal and human populations Shocked


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"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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Not to mention the fact that Tom Frieden resigned in January and the president hasn't bothered to name a replacement. Not that Dr. Schuchat isn't competent but people react differently with an acting Director than to the actual Director.
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another project that Trump bragged came in ahead of schedule and under budget
not to hard to be under budget when you dont pay your bills

Contractor sues for $2 million in unpaid bills on Trump's D.C. hotel

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017...mp-s-D-C-hotel

Trump can’t appeal court decision he misled Toronto investors

https://www.thestar.com/business/201...investors.html

think about this for a minute

this FRAUD,this CON MAN is President of the United States
and millions of Americans thought this was a good idea
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Great article.  I believe it to be accurate, but put in a less antagonistic style than mine.  I confess that I see Trump as far worse than this portrayal.  But, perhaps, being a news outlet they have less room for speculation than I do: and actually, the facts are scary enough!
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House Republicans would let employers demand workers’ genetic test results

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-rep...100034946.html

"The bill was approved by a House committee on Wednesday, with all 22 Republicans supporting it and all 17 Democrats opposed. It has been overshadowed by the debate over the House GOP proposal*to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, but the genetic testing bill is*expected to folded into a second ACA-related measure containing a grab-bag of provisions that do not affect federal spending, as the main bill does."

now tell me there is not something fundamentally SICK about the Republican Party
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Unaware? Trump and Pence were aware of Flynn's foreign lobbying. They simply lied about it.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/10/1642228/-Unaware-Trump-and-Pence-were-aware-of-

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"They knew Michael Flynn was a foreign agent. They just ignored it and made him National Security Advisor anyway without having him register as a foreign agent. Perhaps because extending the title to National Security Advisor and Registered Foreign Agent would make it hard to fit on a business card. Then Trump and Pence lied about ignoring it and pretended to be idiots."

more swamp draining ?
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We have some very sharp people, what do we think about the Russian "Alfa" bank communication with the Trump server?  Innocent or not?  I'm inclined to think there is something very fishy about it, based upon some testimony I saw by high-level computer experts who are baffled....

I wonder if they were laundering Russian oligarch funds through Trump, 5¢ at a time?? 

CNN reports that the FBI's counterintelligence team is still investigating the "odd" possible server connection between the Trump Organization and Russian-owned Alfa Bank but noted that the government has not obtained a FISA warrant on the Trump server.

  • What happened? The Alfa Bank server repeatedly looked up the DNS address for the Trump server, which CNN compares to "looking up someone's phone number" and notes that it "indicates an intention to communicate."
  • A wrinkle: Alfa Bank made up 80% of the DNS lookups to the Trump server, but another 19% came from Spectrum Health, a company owned by the husband of Betsy DeVos.
  • What's the explanation? Well, no one seems to know. It could have been spam emails gone wrong or a case of technological mistaken identity. Alfa Bank denied any connections to Trump, and Spectrum Health said it had not been contacted by the FBI or any government agency.
  • Summing it up: A cybersecurity expert on the communications between Trump, Alfa Bank, and Spectrum Health told CNN, "There is some sort of connection I can't explain, and only they are doing it. It could be completely innocent."
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CBO Estimates 24 Million More Uninsured People Under TrumpCare



http://crooksandliars.com/2017/03/cb...more-uninsured

if you look up the phrase "steaming pile of crap"
there will be a picture of Trump

TrumpCare=MAJOR FAIL
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happy now Trump supporters ?
HAPPY NOW?
my God
what have you done???

      U.S. Citizens Now Being Forced To Provide Their Social Media Passwords Upon Return To U.S.

"Three days later, they returned from another trip to Canada and were stopped again by CBP.
"One of the officers calls out to me and says, 'Hey, give me your phone,'" recalled Shibly. "And I said, 'No, because I already went through this.'"
The officer asked a second time.
Within seconds, he was surrounded: one man held his legs, another squeezed his throat from behind. A third reached into his pocket, pulling out his phone. McCormick watched her boyfriend's face turn red as the officer's chokehold tightened."
""The shackles are off," said Hugh Handeyside, a staff attorney with the ACLU's National Security Project. "We see individual officers and perhaps supervisors as well pushing those limits, exceeding their authority and violating people's rights."

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SIEG HEIL
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BREAKING: White House analysis of TrumpCare is WORSE than CBO!
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/13/1643075/-BREAKING-White-House-analysis-of-TrumpCare-is-WORSE-than-CBO


"The executive branch analysis forecast that 26 million people would lose coverage over the next decade, versus the 24 million CBO estimate — a finding that undermines White House efforts to discredit the forecasts from the nonpartisan CBO."

great job Trump
great job
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We have a comedic commentator over here doing a program called "Unspun".  He just called me and my like a bunch of nuts for likening Trump to Hitler.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               He went on to point out that Hitler had a plan. - Oh well!  There goes a good theory.
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the "coal states"went heavy Republican

here is their reward
more dead coal miners

Coal Country Republicans Set to Cut Mine Safety Inspections

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...9we7862p22o6r&
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

the "coal states"went heavy Republican

here is their reward
more dead coal miners

Coal Country Republicans Set to Cut Mine Safety Inspections

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...9we7862p22o6r&

You know, it really didn't help her cause when Hillary said she wanted to put a lot of coal miners out of work!!  

I do a lot of work in the energy industry, and the overall feeling is that the US coal industry is dying & unlikely to return due to fuel-switching to natural gas, increasing amounts of solar & wind, etc.  Coal is becoming irrelevant.  

Good riddance, it is a filthy fuel, putting more radium and uranium into the ecosystem than nuclear power.  
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OMG !
shocked I tell you
just shocked
who would have seen THIS coming?

Trump Appoints FIFTH Goldman Sachs Alum

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/03/tr...man-sachs-alum

now in all fairness not ALL of Trumps financial guys are from Goldman Sucks
one is from Bear Stearns
and one used to work for ?
wait for it
wait for it
big bad evil George Soros !!!

certainly by now even the most die hard Trump supporter has to admit

YA GOT PLAYED

now lets all repeat Trump's motto

fill the swamp
fill the swamp
FILL THE SWAMP !!!
yeah !!!!!!!!!!!
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Trump breaks promise: Sweeps Hillary’s email scandal under the rug
http://www.redstate.com/diary/stridentconservative/2017/03/15/trump-breaks-promise-sweeps-hillarys-email-scandal-rug/

LMAO !!!
do I really even need to comment ?

emphasis on

TRUMP BREAKS PROMISE
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die poor people DIE


HHS Secretary Tom Price Lied To A Cancer Survivor's Face
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Originally posted by CRS, DrPH CRS, DrPH wrote:

Good riddance, it is a filthy fuel, putting more radium and uranium into the ecosystem than nuclear power.  


But what about "clean coal", Chuck? LOLLOLLOL


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