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keeping up with the Trump failures and scandals is a full time job

yeah
remember when Trump said he would only have "the best and the brightest" advising him ?
hmmm
not so much

Report: Senior Trump adviser took a 'lifelong loyalty oath' to Hungarian Nazi-allied organization
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/16/1644095/-Report-Senior-Trump-adviser-took-a-lifelong-loyalty-oath-to-Hungarian-Nazi-organization
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Legislators warn of cuts to pandemic flu readiness in letter to HHS's Price

Two US senators and three members of Congress penned a letter this week to Tom Price, the secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), voicing their concern over President Trump's proposed cuts to government agencies whose work enables pandemic preparedness.

The legislators, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), said that recent reports of human cases of avian influenza in China have raised the threat of a global pandemic, and that since taking office, President Trump has issued at least seven threats of budget cuts to HHS and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the main agencies that would handle a flu pandemic.

The president has said he would propose a $54 billion budget cut on non-defense discretionary spending, which could include CDC and HHS. Moreover, in repealing the Affordable Care Act, the president proposes to cut the Prevention and Public Health Fund (PPHF) which makes up more than 12 % of the CDC's total budget.

In addition to budget cuts, the president has left several key public health administration roles empty, including a CDC director.

The letter concludes with several questions to Secretary Price about the president's understanding of public health preparedness, beliefs concerning vaccines, and executive orders. The legislators request a written response to their questions by Mar 27.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2017/03/flu-scan-mar-15-2017
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Good riddance, it is a filthy fuel, putting more radium and uranium into the ecosystem than nuclear power.  


But what about "clean coal", Chuck? LOLLOLLOL



I was just issued a US patent for a device that could help burn coal more cleanly, but it is a nasty fuel all around.  

Safe nuclear fuel with a reliable spent-fuel recovery cycle would be the way to go.  The Integrated Fast Reactor was promising, but it was killed off by the Clinton administration who didn't think nuclear had a future.  Wrong! 

Mining coal is as nasty as burning the damn stuff.  Mine runoff, methane emissions, particulates etc.   Only good thing about coal is that the US has lots of it, so if we can mitigate the problems, it belongs in the mix, but only for a while.  
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Trump's AMuRIkA

Gutting the Meals on Wheels program would devastate millions, including 500,000 vets who rely on it

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3...who-rely-on-it

" An unthinkable*1 in 6 seniors struggles with hunger*and Meals on Wheels provides food to 2.4 million seniors, many of whom are able to stay in their homes, rather than more expensive facilities, because of Meals on Wheels. That number includes an*astonishing 500,000 veterans rely on the service.*"

Is this really who we are as a nation? This weekend Donald Trump makes his fifth trip to his Mar-A-Lago country club. It costs American taxpayers an average of*$3.5 million per trip*for Donald to hob-nob with his clients who dropped $200,000 to get in the door and knock back cocktails with Trump and his Cabinet.*
It costs taxpayers an estimated*$500,000 PER DAY to keep Melania Trump cozy at Trump Tower, far away from her husband. "

and New York City is FORCED to spend an additional 50 MILLION a year for security

3.5 MILLION so Trump can play a round of golf
damn
must be a REALLY nice course

the Donald says "thanks SUCKERS" !!!
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"I've made a HUGE mistake"  famous last words of a former Trump supporter
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As DARPA Preps for a Pandemic, It Has a New Enemy in Trump

What do you do when the president is an anti-vaxxer?


Matt Hepburn thinks about global pandemics a lot. As the program manager behind DARPA’s new Pandemic Prevention Platform, when he looks at the way the world responded to Zika, the H1N1 flu, and the recent Ebola outbreak, he sees room for improvement.

“I’ve been working on infectious diseases of national security significance,” Hepburn tells Inverse. “My whole career has been based on this deep sense of apprehension that we have these threats that are out there, coupled with [the fact that] we aren’t prepared as a global community.”

Over the course of the next three to four years, DARPA — the military’s advanced research agency — wants to develop a process that would allow it to go from identifying the cause of a major outbreak to coming up with countermeasures within 60 days. The P3 program aims to develop “an entire system capable of halting the spread of any viral disease outbreak before it can escalate to pandemic status,” the agency declared in February.

Right now, it can sometimes take a year or more for drug companies to manufacture the medicine to combat an outbreak. Hepburn says that’s not good enough. “By the time we’re even getting close to having a product, the outbreak is over. What good is that?” he says. “We still have this great gap in being able to respond expeditiously.”

Hepburn and his team are soliciting ideas for how to accomplish this goal, but much of it will likely revolve around RNA- and DNA-based technologies. The goal is that a person, once given the medicine, will be protected within one to three days.

The idea is the create a “firebreak,” the same as trying to contain a wildfire. If health care providers can protect a large population quickly, that limits the rate of infection before it gets out of control.

“Protected,” in this case, is a broad term to encompass several stages of treatment. The developed medicine could be preventative, it could be used to mitigate the impact of the disease after exposure, but before symptoms emerge; it could be a way to stop the disease from spreading, or it could be a full-on cure. At this early stage, Hepburn wants to cast a wide net and catch as many options as possible.

What Hepburn is asking for is difficult, and he knows it. “People think we’re crazy. People say it’s impossible, it’s really hard, we can’t do this for all sorts of reasons,” says Hepburn. “But that’s how we know this is a space DARPA should be in, because we’re supposed to push the community, and put out a challenge.” The program is designed to work equally well to combat a naturally occurring disease of a manufactured biological weapon.

Hepburn previously worked in the White House as the Director of Medical Preparedness at the National Security Council, where he worked across agencies to ensure the government was on the same page when it came to medical national security threats. He stresses the same is true of his position at DARPA. His work relies heavily on cooperation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Institutes of Health, and the private sector.

When it comes to the current make-up of the government, though, there is no shortage of critics who say the Trump administration itself could be a public health catastrophe.

For one, Trump himself regularly spread discredited, bogus information that purported to link vaccines with autism, and surrounds himself with people who believe the same.

For another, his administration is loaded with climate science skeptics, a clear sign that Trump and his cabinet are willing to put ideology and politics before empirical facts. The dangers that approach can create, in the face of a pandemic, are numerous. In 2014, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie quarantined a nurse from Doctors Without Borders who had worked on the Ebola outbreak, against the best practices of that organization, and the entire medical community.

When asked about politicians who put politics before science — like Christie did — Hepburn declines to answer.

“What I will say, is that decision making during a crisis is incredibly challenging,” he says. “What we want to do is give people managing the response a tool in the tool belt.”

Outside of government, scientists are sounding the alarm that Trump could herald a new era of public health crises.

Benjamin Z. Houlton is the director of the John Muir Institute of the Environment at UC Davis, and worries about how the new administration could make the world more susceptible to large-scale pandemics, and that these issues need to be looked at holistically.

“We are already seeing climate change impacts play out in rising sea levels, crop damages, flooding, fire, and drought. This hurts human health, natural ecosystem habitats, and damages our economy,” Houlton tells Inverse. “Without natural habitats, we lose one of the nation’s first lines of defense against the spread of disease. Healthy and diverse ecosystems protect us from the spread of all sorts of viruses and pathogens.”

Trump’s approach to vaccines alone poses a massive risk to people in the United States and internationally. “It took decades of hard work by doctors, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and state and local health departments to get vaccination rates to where they are today: over 90 percent for vaccines against polio, hepatitis B, chickenpox, measles, mumps, and rubella,” Saad Omer, chair in global health at Emory University, writes in the Washington Post. “Even a modest decrease in those rates could be enough to cause future outbreaks. And because political polarization can push people to change their belief in basic facts, making vaccines a political cause for one side or another may lead to exactly that.”

Houlton, the UC Davis professor, adds that Trump is waging an attack on the very idea of the commons. “The greatest threat I see is on public goods — things we all benefit from. Whether it’s access to international scholars, clean water, air and healthy soil, our society’s life support systems are at risk,” he says. “The things that make the U.S. so special are being completely disregarded.”

These issues are far beyond the scope of DARPA’s new P3 program. Even those who are skeptical of the high-tech military office will likely celebrate any and all efforts to reduce or eliminate the threat of a global pandemic. The exact budget isn’t finalized, but a DARPA spokesperson said that similar multi-year initiatives range from $50 million to $100 million. That’s money well spent, if it works, and can keep the public calm in the face of another Ebola-style outbreak.

Just as important, though, are the more traditional measures the government takes to maintain good public health. For now, those look to be at serious risk.

https://www.inverse.com/article/28724-darpa-disease-prep-trump
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we have a policy over here ,

no Jab no school.

This is just another attack on science ,

we have been that long with bad desease's  people have even forgotten the names of them

people have been dumbed down ........

some even still believe in a God.......thats a BIG BIG problem
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Original Poster here, thanks everyone!!  Keep 'em coming! 

Trump's budget is beyond bad - I'm an old-school Reagan guy who supported our military buildup, but that was a different time & world.   Gutting our national research capabilities (NIH, CDC, EPA etc.) to buy new toys for the Pentagon doesn't make sense.  
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The White House on Wednesday released its budget blueprint for the fiscal year 2018, which significantly increases defense budget by $54 billion, or 10 percent, from the previous year, while proposing to cut the funding for non-military departments.

The proposed $54 billion increase will make US military budget higher than Russia's and Japan's military spending combined, accounting for one-third of China's defense budget. Once approved by the Congress, the US defense spending will reach $603 billion, while non-military federal budget will be only $462 billion.

The US is certainly one of the militarist countries in the world. As the only superpower, what the US emphasizes and values will have a global impact, as it leads the world's attention and resources and in this way writes the rules. Since US military budget already equals the combined amount of the biggest eight countries after it, why is it so radically expanding its military spending? Donald Trump wrote to the Congress that "without safety, there can be no prosperity."

In order to be "safer," the White House proposes to cut budget for environmental protection by 31.4 percent, agriculture and labor departments each by 20.7 percent, health agencies by 16.2 percent and transportation by 12.7 percent.
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Donald Trump Literally Nominated The Goldman Sachs Bailout Lawyer To Run The SEC


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-jay-clayton-sec_us_58d17924e4b0ec9d29e00c7d?


Trump's America: Two coal plants announce closures in Ohio, layoffs at Carrier factories in Indiana

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/21/1645838/-Trump-s-America-Two-coal-plants-announce-closures-in-Ohio-layoffs-at-Carrier-factories-in-Indiana


certainly at this point even the staunchest Trump supporter must realize that

YOU WERE CONNED





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Most CORRUPT POTUS EVER ?

It's Not a Smoking Gun, But It's Close!

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/21/1645866/-It-s-Not-a-Smoking-Gun-But-It-s-Close
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It looks as though the proposed $1.3 billion reduction in the Coast Guard's budget is being shelved after an outcry from lawmakers, but I find it interesting that the one branch of the military that probably wouldn't serve to bolster Trump's ego was the only one facing cuts.


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"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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WOW !!!

if true this is beyond serious

if it can be proven ,then indeed, Trump's Presidency is ILLEGITIMATE

and YES
I would use the word TREASON


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/22/1646252/-Collusion-between-Trump-team-and-Russia-appears-to-be-more-just-a-theory
This is the possibility of collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russian agencies working to subvert the US election. Treason is not too big a word."
One law enforcement official said the information in hand suggests "people connected to the campaign were in contact and it appeared they were giving the thumbs up to release information when it was ready." 
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now it comes out that Paul Manafort,one time Trump campaign manager was taking
10 million a year from a Russian  oligbarch to act as a PR agent for Putin

yeah

nothing to see here...

IMPEACH
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this is the kind of guy Trump associates with


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/22/1646036/-Manafort-s-Daughter-s-Hacked-Texts-That-money-we-have-is-blood-money

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In a series of texts reviewed by Business Insider that appear to have been sent by Andrea to her sister, Jessica, in March 2015, Andrea said their father had "no moral or legal compass."

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"Don't fool yourself," Andrea wrote to her sister, according to the texts. "That money we have is blood money."

"You know he has killed people in Ukraine? Knowingly," she continued, according to the reviewed texts. "As a tactic to outrage the world and get focus on Ukraine. Remember when there were all those deaths taking place. A while back. About a year ago. Revolts and what not. Do you know whose strategy that was to cause that, to send those people out and get them slaughtered."

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This guy Manafort is a real piece of work, isn't he? 

I don't think it will be long before he is either in FBI custody, or in hiding in Moscow.
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if this proves to be true
Trump MUST be IMPEACHED


RussiaGate blows WIDE OPEN in Abrahamson report: High crimes and misdemeanors by Trump, Sessions

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/23/1646686/-RussiaGate-blows-WIDE-OPEN-in-Abrahamson-report-High-crimes-and-misdemeanors-by-Trump-Sessions
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Funny how we haven't heard from many

Chump supporters on here of late

Wonders why ????
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a letter you have to read
the REALITIES of TrumpCare

Dear Mom—about your 50 year nursing career & Medicaid... Woman's post PLOWS the GOP

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/24/1646735/-Dear-Mom-About-your-50-year-nursing-career-Medicaid-Woman-s-post-will-blow-GOP-minds
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

Funny how we haven't heard from many

Chump supporters on here of late

Wonders why ????

 I have yet to see a virus that voted either way. It may well be that those seeking a political discussion go to a political forum perhaps? I didn't come to avianflutalk for the political discussions, but find it rather odd that one of, if not the most active threads is a political one. Perhaps politics in and of itself is a virus, after all it does have a very high CFR rate attached either directly or indirectly historically speaking regardless of political affiliation. 
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this is general discussion,that means off topic,which means we disscuss all topics, 

chump is a fool ,thats the way everyone here in Australia i speak to thinks

well done USA you got what everyone eles could see this buffoon is ,a BUFFOON

even his own people shudder ,

you need to SACK him ASAP

before the USA's credibility falls even further,

i have never heard an inteligent word come out of his mouth

"we had a great meeting we are going to do Great things"etc,etc etc 

WHEN WHEN WHEN

the man is  tool......
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