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Topic - The U.S. Election is over - time to move on
Posted: December 31 2016 at 9:53am By Medclinician
Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

I don't think anyone is seriously debating the legitimacy of the election snymore, Med. It's Trump's cabinet picks, proposed legislation, and Twitter attacks that are the focus of most people's attention. By and large, most people have moved on.

You're right. And I saw Rolling Stone Magazine and Fox actually criticizing  cries of foul by the Democratics wanting blood from Russia for their hacking. Perhaps they should reread the definition for hacking and at the same time put out some proof.

John Podesta gave his password out on a phishing scheme.
 This would be like saying Russia is responsible for the loss of almost a billion passwords on Yahoo.

U.S. intelligence has been all over (especially the Obama Clan) trying to influence the election in Israel.
No doubt about that one and I guess it is a huge double standard. This reminds me of a solidier in hand to hand combat crying out "you hit me - not fair".

We are at cyberwar with the Russians - both sides. If you don't think we have some of our best trying to get into their stuff - I mean - you know we do.  And are they saying - well you musn't hack - you must play fair and not steal anything?

We hire hackers from wherever they can get them. They recruit even terrorists to hack - who better to know how to get in?  Personally I think even Russia is spooked by Chechen hackers who are some of the best on the planet.

You don't sit down at a meeting with people from the Middle East, Russia, (would North Korea even show up?), and expect people to be nice.  They are courteous - smile - but beneath it - it is dead serious.

The hope for the new administraton is the fact these are people in the business jungle that are used to the worst betrayals and cons and are veterans at this.

Now we can move on to truly more significant discussions as to who in the cabinet (big power thing going on there) for money for everything from health care to military.  Obviously few studied their history as to why we have an electoral system. There was a big reason. So that populous states could not control every federal office. The South knew better - and a lot of the founders of the Republic were connected to the South.

Things are moving on. Obama can only whine so long to Fox and CNN before he is an ex-president and gets big money to complain - but it no longer matters.

Now - front and center. Is Trump going to do what he said and promised?
Well, for one, he didn't get herded in by Intel and TPTB (the powers that be) and told now - Donald - this is the way it really is and this is how we have been doing it and this is how you are going to do it.

He doesn't beat on podiums with his shoe (Krushchev - "we will bury you")

Also in the art of debate and especially putting peope off center sometimes people "just say things to see what people will do". My father was the master of this.   He would state that I did something when he didn't know and I would go off and admit it and then find out I had been had.

Trump is not ignorant. There is an art - a gamesmanship of politics and dealing that Obama never learned.

I am excited about 2017. I am. At least there are chances for huge things to happen.  Maybe I am different in this - but a lot of my friends feel the same way about 2016 as they feel about the election. Thank God - it's over.