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    Posted: September 28 2017 at 10:47am
Suddenly 90% of the main issues and stories in the mainstream are gone. It's true. 24/7 they are covering Puerto Rico and NFL kneeling drama.

It is sad about Puerto Rico but why the sudden caring?  Not long ago they had a Zika epidemic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/health/zika-virus-puerto-rico.html

Reality - the whole thing in NFL is a major diversion from the fact we are on the verge of a nuclear war with North Korea.

Hillary's book tour and why she lost?  The new limits on immigration and free speech demonstrations by the conservatives with no violence.

The criticism of the NFL has nothing to do with race.

The fact they need to get a second prosecutor to handle Hillary the crook and Comey who pardoned her before the investigation.

Nope - the entire country is on about the NFL statements.

The mainstream media continues to make ridiculous statements and now are completely ignoring the real news.

I have a life. I have important things to do with it.

I don't watch soap operas or talk shows. And CNN is going off in a few seconds as they literally bore me to death.

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Medclinician

Who cares CNN?  This does not effect our country significantly in any way.


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oh for crying out loud !!!LOL

the whole NFL take a knee thingy had slowed down to a slow simmer

UNTIL

the orange haired TrumpenFuhrer sent out yet another STUPID Tweet and got it going again
he is the one who hit the hornets nest
why did he need to say anything at all ???

and now others are getting blamed for HIS actions?

typical

and in case you haven't noticed
news stories don't just happen one at a time

multiple things/problems/crisis situations occur simultaneously

the adults in the room can deal with a LOT of things at once

we have too

try doing my job for a day or twoLOL
I'm the poster boy for MULTI-TASKING

it seems to me that maybe Trump deliberately created this "controversy"

WHY ?

oh may to distract from his inability to destroy Obamacare for the umteenth time ???

or maybe the fact that Luther Strange in Alabama went down in flames in the Republican Senatorial primary in Alabama ???  (Trump was damn quick in deleting all his Tweets regarding that FAILURE wasn't he ?)LOL

and I beg to differ
the criticism of the "take a knee " movement
has EVERYTHING to do with race
EVERYTHING

and poor Trump
he better get his butt in gear
OR
Puerto Rico WILL be his Katrina
rescue and recovery efforts are FAILING badly
what do you want to bet he didn't even know PR was a part of the US ?
seems logical
cause by his own admission he didn't even know what a Cat 5 hurricane was
watch the news or read a book you moron
and Trump was "educated" where ?
at Harvard ???LOLLOLLOL
should have went to community college Tongue
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Here’s What Many White Christians Fail To Understand About The NFL Protests

Christians of color have a radically different way of thinking about God and country.


When Tim Tebow knelt on the sidelines of a football game in a defiant and public act of faith during his years as an N.F.L. quarterback, he was adored as a darling of the American church. When Colin Kaepernick knelt before games in protest of police brutality, he received death threats, was called a “traitor” and eventually, left unsigned by the NFL.

Kaepernick is a devout Christian whose faith has turned him into an activist. Eric Reid, Kaepernick’s former teammate on the San Francisco 49ers, recently wrote an op-ed in The New York Times describing the moment that he decided to join Kaepernick’s protest last year. Reid claims it was his Christianity that moved him to take the knee.

He quotes a passage in the Bible which states that faith without action is dead. For Reid, kneeling for the anthem to bring attention to police killings of unarmed black people was an act of faith.

It was just as much an act of faith as Tebow’s choice to kneel down and pray to celebrate a touchdown. 

“I knew I needed to stand up for what is right,” Reid writes.

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Eli Harold #58, Colin Kaepernick #7 and Eric Reid #35 of the San Francisco 49ers kneel on the sideline, during the anthem, prior to the game against the New York Jets at Levi Stadium on December 11, 2016 in Santa Clara, California. 

From the beginning, the “take the knee” protests have been tied to faith, the kind of righteous indignation that fueled the civil rights movement in the 1960s.

But as more than 200 NFL players joined the protest by refusing to stand for the national anthem this weekend, some Christians expressed their dismay, claiming that kneeling during the anthem is an unpatriotic and ungrateful gesture. This fissure in response to the NFL protests highlights key differences between white Christians and Christians of color. These groups tend to think differently about racial justice ― and what Christianity should look like when it’s called to action.

The divide between American Christians about the “appropriateness” of protests for black lives isn’t new. In his letter from a Birmingham Jail, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote about his disappointment with “white moderate” Christian leaders and churches that claimed they agreed with King’s goals, but not his methods. These Christians advised black activists to wait for a “more convenient season” for equality to materialize. 

“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice,” King wrote.

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The Dallas Cowboys players, coaches and staff take a knee prior to standing for the National Anthem during a game against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. 

These attitudes seem to have persisted into the 21st century. 

The popular Southern Baptist pastor Robert Jeffress, one of Trump’s top evangelical advisors, claimed that the NFL players should be eternally grateful to God that they live in a country where they aren’t “shot in the head” for protesting. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a staunch defender of religious liberty, said that the players should make their protest in “any other place.”

“As a matter of propriety, of love of country, and decency, you should stand when the national anthem is played,” Sessions said.

Even those Christians who agreed that the players’ free speech should be protected admitted that they didn’t think protesting the anthem is the “best way” to advocate for justice. 

But for some black Christians, the flag, the anthem, and other patriotic symbols are inextricably tied to America’s racist past. And the Jesus of the Bible, with his message of liberation and radical inclusivity, is seen as someone who is intimately associated with the struggle for justice.

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Some of the Miami Dolphins take a knee during the anthem prior to the game against the New York Jets at MetLife Stadium. 
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The Rev. Traci Blackmon, a United Church of Christ pastor deeply involved with racial justice ministries, told HuffPost that to her, the flag and the national anthem are symbolic reminders of the ideals that America has not yet realized. 

As a result, she says, a football game is the “perfect place” for Kaepernick and others to protest.

“A football game is a perfect place to show the hypocrisy of our national narrative,” Blackmon told HuffPost. “Because Americans worship football and gather weekly to watch many black bodies endure physical abuse for their pleasure, and then go home to [neighborhoods] where those same black bodies are not welcomed to live.”

Valerie Cooper, associate professor of religion and black church studies at Duke Divinity School, said that one of the ways that black churches think of Jesus is as the leader of a protest movement ― someone who came to earth to proclaim good news to the poor and set the captive free. 

“How you respond to protest movements depend on which side of the protest you’re on,” she said. “There’s never an appropriate venue for a protest. When civil rights activists tried to desegregate a lunch counter, people could say don’t interrupt my lunch. If you’re desegregating a school, it’s “Why must you interrupt education?’”

“Protest is never convenient for the the people being protested against. The real question is, when is it time for justice? If it is really justice we seek, it’s always the right time,” Cooper said.

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Members of the New England Patriots take a knee during the national anthem before a game against the Houston Texans at Gillette Stadium. 

A 2015 PRRI study found that white Americans are less likely than non-white Americans to say that protests by black Americans are good for the country. This remained true when the researchers evaluated responses by race and religion. PRRI found that 65 percent of white Christians agreed that when Americans in general speak up and protest unfair treatment by the government, it always makes the country better. Sixty-two percent of nonwhite Americans said the same.

But change the race of the people protesting, and the responses look significantly different. Only 44 percent of white Christians agreed that when black Americans speak up and protest unfair treatment by the government it always makes the country better. About 63 percent of nonwhite Christians agreed.

White Christians are also less likely than Christians of color to understand the discrimination that minorities face. Studies have shown that white Christians are generally less likely than other religious groups and the unaffiliated to say that black Americans experience significant discrimination. While 36 percent of white evangelical Protestants say there is a lot of discrimination against black Americans in the U.S. today, 86 percent of black Protestants say the same.

White evangelical Protestants were particularly likely to say that police officers treat blacks the same as whites. They’re the only major religious group in which a majority (57 percent) say the police killings of black men in Ferguson, New York City, and Baltimore were isolated incidents. On the other hand, 70 percent of minority Protestants say that these police killings were part of a broader pattern.

The Rev. Jacqueline Lewis, senior minister of New York City’s Middle Collegiate Church, told HuffPost that she believes that flag is a symbol of the freedoms that the country claims to uphold ― freedom to “drive, work, and live while Black. Vote while Black. Raise children while Black. Safely.”

But America isn’t there yet.

“I think the deeper issue is that for African Americans in this nation, that flag and that national anthem are only as sacred as the willingness of those who sing and salute to stand up for the lives of all Americans, to stand against white supremacy ― the white supremacy that built this land on the backs of enslaved Africans, after stealing it from first nation peoples,” Lewis said. 

“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
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I can't abide soaps either, Med; too facile!

If Hilary is guilty, then Trump is too. Do you only read your own posts?  
Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Half a dozen of Trump's closest advisers have just been caught sending private whitehouse emails over private email channels.

What was that all about?  Was the thinking:  "If we make enough noise about Hilary doing it no one will notice we were guilty too?"

Well she was stupid and careless.  It now seems she was not alone.  

I never thought she and Trump would be in the same category over anything.     LOL

Source BBC news, today.
If its just mine you ignore, I will understand.  We can't all like each other's writing style after all.


As to the NFL?  A racist President in a racist country, that is a great reason for all fair minded people to create a stink about.

The North Korea situation is a bit dicey.  Rocket man may be a bully and a Tyrant, as is (though probably to a lesser extent) Trump, his sparring partner, but luckily for the rest of the world, for all their faults, Shee Jin Ping and Vladamir Putin are wiser than that.  (Sorry, I can't spell the Chinese premier's name.)

Yeah!  I have a life too.  just be glad you don't have to chase Rishat all over the site deleting gibberish and repeated posts about how his amazing immune system is superhuman and we should take his blood to make a treatment for everything from Aids to a hangnail.
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