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    Posted: February 14 2015 at 2:45pm
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carbon20,what you call "Raccoon Dogs" are called just plane Racoons here where I live. The cute animals kill ALL of my chickens every time they find a way into my chicken house. If I let my chickens out in the summertime,these Raccoons catch them out of the trees that my chickens roost in and they kill all that they can,again. They kill many times more than they can eat.

I kill an average of 40 to 50 around my chicken house every year. I wish I could kill more. ----By the way,they are also good to eat.Johnray1
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 I kill an average of 40 to 50 around my chicken house every year. I wish I could kill more. ----By the way,they are also good to eat.Johnray1

Leviticus 11:27  King James Version (KJV)

27 And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: 


The good book says you should not eat a coon.

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Originally posted by OriginalHappyCamper OriginalHappyCamper wrote:



 <span style=": rgb43, 43, 43;">I kill an average of 40 to 50 around my chicken house every year. I wish I could kill more. ----By the way,they are also good to eat.Johnray1</span>

<h1 ="passage-display"><span ="passage-display-bcv">Leviticus 11:27  </span><span ="passage-display-version">King James Version (KJV)</span></h1>

<span ="text Lev-11-27" id="en-KJV-3025"><sup ="versenum">27 And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: </span>

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<span ="text Lev-11-27">The good book says you should not eat a coon.</span>



Shows you don't know your Bible that well OHC. The old Testament (which is where your quote comes from) is Jewish Law. Most of us, probably you included, are Gentiles - the New Testament is our law. Quoting from the Old Testament is a misrepresentation of Scripture in this instance and has no relevance to your argument.
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"Shows you don't know your Bible that well OHC. The old Testament (which is where your quote comes from) is Jewish Law. Most of us, probably you included, are Gentiles - the New Testament is our law. Quoting from the Old Testament is a misrepresentation of Scripture in this instance and has no relevance to your argument."

There were four laws given on mount Sinai to Moses, one Jesus wrote with his own finger (TEN COMMANDMENTS) and the other three were spoken by GOD and Moses wrote them down. (Dietary, Civil and the Sanctuary laws)

This is what is what JESUS said and is recorded in the NEW Terstament  

Matthew 4:4 King James Version (KJV)

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

So If God Spoke it to Moses then it came out of the mouth of GOD. Where is it written that JESUS referred to when he said this, 

Deuteronomy 8:3 King James Version (KJV)

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.


You state that the Old Testament is the JEWISH Law, Then you must believe that the Ten Commandments are not relevant today as they are Jewish Law. However they are all in the New Testament.

 http://www.biblestudy.org/beginner/ten-commandments-in-old-and-new-testaments.html


Old Testament


New Testament

 

You shall have no other gods before Me.

 

'You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him alone shall you serve.' (Matthew 4:10, see also 1Corinthians 8:4-6)

 

You shall not make for yourself a carved image - any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them . . .

 

21. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. 
(1John 5:21, see also Acts 17:29)

8. But the cowardly, and unbelieving . . . and idolaters . . . shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone . . . (Revelation 21:8)

   

You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

 

'Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed be Your name . . '
(Matthew 6:9, see also 1Timothy 6:1)

   

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

 

'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath; 28. Therefore, the Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath.' (Mark 2:27-28, Hebrews 4:4, 10; Acts 17:2)

   

Honor your father and your mother . . .

 

'Honor your father and your mother' 
(Matthew 19:19, see also Ephesians 6:1)

   

You shall not murder.

 

'You shall not murder' 
(Matthew 19:18, see also Romans 13:9, Revelation 21:8)

   

You shall not commit adultery.

 

'You shall not commit adultery'
(Matthew 19:18, see also Romans 13:9, Revelation 21:8)

   

You shall not steal.

 

'You shall not steal'
(Matthew 19:18, see also Romans 13:9)

   

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

 

'You shall not bear false witness' 
(Matthew 19:18, see also Romans 13:9, Revelation 21:8)

   

You shall not covet your neighbor's house . . . your neighbor's wife . . . nor anything that is your neighbor's.

 

You shall not covet
(Romans 13:9, see also Romans 7:7)

   

So I have to ask you; are you picking and choosing which portion of the Holy Bible that is inspired by the Holy Spirit, you will believe.

2 Timothy 3:15-17King James Version (KJV)

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

When Paul wrote 2 Timothy there was no NEW TESTAMENT  so what was he referring to?

It is a false teaching that the OLD TESTAMENT is Jewish law and is not relevant today as all writers of the NEW TESTAMENT only had the OLD TESTAMENT to read and study, save the time they had with JESUS which Saul (Paul} did not have as he never met JESUS directly before the CROSS.

If you would like a Bible study on unclean meats in the NEW TESTAMENT  her is a web site for you.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/C-deception-diet_unclean_clean_New_Testament


sorry for the format copy and past issue

 

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This should be in General Discussion!
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this is a flu  forum not a theologic discussion.........


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I've moved this to General Discussion,
 
but if it continues to go down hill it'll be moved to the Dungeon...
 
which might not be a bad idea anyway, those pics are graphic & a warning should be placed in the Title if space allows... if not then at the very top in large/bold print before any part of the article starts.  Religion has no place in this thread at all.  To prove I'm not biased... I hate raccoons & I am a Christian.
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Original Happy Camper and Rickster 58 and Carbon20, Rickster,you are correct,this is old Testament Hebrew Law and New Testament started everything over for us Gentiles.

I am sure that my ancestors that immigrated from Europe would have rather eaten Manna,but none was proved.So,they stayed alive by killing and eating what they could find.

GOD even gave the Hebrews permission to eat food that was outside of their law,if it was necessary for survival. You need to learn all of you Bible and not just the parts that you want to learn.Johnray1
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OHC, to further stress my point. Before Christ came and under the old Hebrew law,a Jew could and they did kill Gentiles and that was no sin for them. Because the Jews were GODs chosen people.Do you think they would be allowed to do this today.Johnray1
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Dead  I found the part about skinning alive very sickning.  I didn't see any reference to using as food.   My Grandfather raised rabbits in the old days in cages, he would dress them and sell to grocery stores.
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Kay, I very seriously doubt if these Raccoon are Skinned alive.These Raccoon are very veracious,strong,serious, and naturally skill and very tough fighters.I do not believe that any one could skin one alive. This was likely just added to the story to make it sound more cruel and to make a better story.Both PETA and News Reporters do this all the time. Johnray1
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"GOD even gave the Hebrews permission to eat food that was outside of their law,if it was necessary for survival. You need to learn all of you Bible and not just the parts that you want to learn.Johnray1"

Thank you for making my point about whose law they were following, it was "their law" not Gods

and that is the problem today .

Acts 24:13-14  King James Version (KJV)

13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.

14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

(the law and prophets were old Testament as the writer of this statement did not have the NEW Testament.) 

Hebrews 13:8 King James Version (KJV)


Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.


Matthew 15:9 King James Version (KJV)

But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


Titus 1:13-15 King James Version (KJV)

13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.


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The commandments of man are the representative of the beast power


Revelation 13:3King James Version (KJV)

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.


Whom will you worship the GOD of Heaven or the beast power?  Adam and Eve sinned by disobeying GOD, are you following in their footsteps?

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OHC,DO NOT worry about my sins. WORRY about your own.Johnray1
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2015 at 3:57pm
 I wish you would have moved the post instead of the delete post option.  We all look
silly commenting on something that isn't here anymore.  Have someone delete the whole
thing if you don't want it moved.  
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Kay... it would appear that carbon decided to edit his OP himself.  I only asked him to add a graphic warning to the title or the top of the page.  If one of the Mods had decided to move it (again) they would have moved the whole thing just as I did.  Albert has strict rules on deleting posts & we Mods follow his guidelines.
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 I know Jen, I was referring to original poster deleting.  Here is the link for those interested.

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