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Elver
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Topic: Obama is an Arab, not a black. Posted: July 31 2012 at 6:18pm |
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Terry Anderson, a black Los Angeles talk radio host, went down a list of things Obama has said that aren't exactly correct:
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NO, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam'' http://www.wnd.com/2010/06/169817/ 8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NO, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.' 9.) I Was Fluent in Indonesian - NO, not one teacher says you could speak the language. 10.) Because I Lived in Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - NO, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons? 11.) I Am Stronger on Foreign Affairs - NO, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise); you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. 12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use on Ethnic Confusion - NO, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine 13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NO, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NO, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 15.) I won't Run on a National Ticket In '08 - NO, despite saying, live on TV, which you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first. 16.) Voting 'Present' is Common in Illinois Senate - NO, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES. 17.) Oops, I Mis-voted - NO, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your mis-vote. 18.) I Was A Professor of Law - NO; you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 19.) I Was a Constitutional Lawyer - NO, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NO, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it. 21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard to Pass - NO, it took just 14 days from start to finish. 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NO, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came. 23.) I Have Released My State Records - NO, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within. 24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NO, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books. 25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NO, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill. 26.) I Have Been a Bold Leader in Illinois - NO, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part. 27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NO, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office. 28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NO, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them. 29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NO, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel . 30.) I Want All Votes to Count - NO; you said let the delegates decide. 31.) I Want Americans to Decide - NO, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time. 32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NO, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself. 33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NO, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you. 34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NO, you take loads of it. 35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NO, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting. 36.) My Campaign Had Nothing to do with the 1984 Ad - NO, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon. 37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NO, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time. 38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NO, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it. 39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NO, your mother had no brothers and the Russian army did the liberating. Obama is a fraud and he's tried hard to ruin our country. He won't let the Keystone pipeline go through which would create lots of jobs. He is trying to get rid of Coal power plants which is our only salvation except natural gas as our oil supply runs out. We need oil desperately, but he won't approve any drilling permits. Watch what he does, not what he says! If you're still not convinced that Obama is a socialist Arab Muslim, then you must watch this.
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 9:30am | ||||
'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.' There is a new form of Socializm brewing in America and it almost cultlike in it refusal to accept reality in terms of Right And Wrong -----Truth Or Lie. Born of fear, anger and hatred many dont seem to be able to rationalize beyond the simple emotions of Fear, Anger, and Hatred of others. Lie-Izm Personally I dont think this board should be furthering this no mattter what your idiology or views, and we should not be furthering the falsehood of the obvious Deciever who only seeks to decieve and steal a vote hear and there. Unless of course you sanction the Deciever!!!! _________________________________________________________ One day the deciever will tell you to get on the bus to heavan but you will then find yourself in a very different place!
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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Elver
Valued Member Joined: June 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7778 |
Posted: August 02 2012 at 4:21pm | ||||
Mahshadin,
Therefore, you only believe that we should post items that YOU happen to believe in.
I happen to believe that Obama is a fraud in every sense of the word. I also don't think that he is who he protrays himself to be. His birth certificate has been proven to be a fraud and there are people who have de-layered it.
You only want people to tell you what you want to hear. That is dangerous. If you don't agree with this post, then you need to explain why. Obviously, you are for censorship.
Perhaps you should reserach "Obama is Arab"
The following quotes came from; http://derekpgilbert.com/?p=2688
"True Negro tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father’s decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa – it is done deliberately to separate him from the African tribes. He may live among them, but he is not one of them. His father’s message is that he is Arabic, not Negro."
"The definitive clue to that answer is to look at his name, his father’s name, and the names of all his ancestors on his father’s side. They are all Arabic." |
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MamaBear4
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 5:13pm | ||||
i thought this was Albert's site not Mahshadin's. I think Mahshadin should start his own site where everyone will have the same point of view and if they don't he can remove their posts. Last time I checked we still had the 1st Amendment but, things are changing so fast I better check again.
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Elver
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 5:21pm | ||||
The first amendment only applies to people who don't want to hear other people's belief's.
For everyone else, there is no first amendment.
It's just like Nancy Pelosi who is anti-gun, yet is protected by people with guns. How hypocritical is that? Perhaps she doesn't want anyone stealing the millions that she got from "insider trading" in the House. This vile lady is worth millions!
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 8:11pm | ||||
You go Elver, it is time the truth is told. Liberals will do anything to stop the truth. Conservatives will do anything to let the truth be told.
You have a right on this blog to say what you want. Only Albert can stop you and I don't believe he will do that. |
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 8:13pm | ||||
Mahshadin, you have mis-used God's words, 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.' There was nothing false in what Elver said.
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 8:14pm | ||||
I agree with Mahshadin. Ol' Zer0 may very well be many things, Catastrophe, Disaster, and Idiot spring to mind, but Arab/Muslim isn't one of them.
If you are insinuating that he is a Muslim, you are LYING. The Birth Certificate, on the other hand... Well... I'll not comment on that until I have definitive proof in front of me. There are a lot of weird circumstances, but considering that Government is who issues them, anything's possible. I'll save my judgement. |
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Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views. - William F. Buckley
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 02 2012 at 8:17pm | ||||
When has Mahshadin ever removed any posts that he disagreed with? Truth be told, I have removed *FAR* more posts personally attacking him based on his political leanings or saying something outright nasty to him than he has. Typically he just responds and owns whoever posted the nastiness. (And I usually get a good chuckle out of it when it happens.) |
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Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views. - William F. Buckley
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quietprepr
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Posted: August 03 2012 at 8:56am | ||||
Regardless of your political leanings, can we trust any politician anymore? Each side has their own truth and we in the middle class continue to bear the brunt of the poor economy. The banks got bailed out, the poor get welfare, all I get is more work and lies from every political party. I am disgusted with them all.
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"Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival." - W. Edwards Deming
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Elver
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Posted: August 04 2012 at 11:24pm | ||||
The evidence is right in front of you and people ignore this.
Barack Hussein Obama SENIOR (our president's father) was raised in a Muslim family, and subsequently changed to Christianity and then became an athiest. He undoubtedly converted to Christianity because he went to a Christian school.
Obama Senior was classified by the Kenyan government as an "Arab-African".
Obama Sr. published a paper entitled "Problems Facing Our Socialism" in the East Africa Journal
Barack Hussein Obama IS A MUSLIM NAME and he is proud of this Muslim name.
He is descendent from ARAB slave traders. (That must make Michelle Obama cringe!)
Now read this very carefully & watch the video.
"I was introduced to [Obama] by a friend," Sutton told the interviewer. Sutton named the friend as “Dr. Khalid al-Mansour.” Sutton described al-Mansour as "the principal adviser to one of the world's richest men." The billionaire in question is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal. Knowing that Sutton had friends at Harvard, al-Mansour asked Sutton to "please write a letter in support of [Obama] ... a young man that has applied to Harvard." Khalid al-Mansour is a piece of work. Although impressively well connected, the Texan-born attorney and black separatist has not met the paranoid racial fantasy unworthy of his energy. He was also a mentor to the founders of the Black Panther Party. His many books include titles like The Destruction of Western Civilization as Seen Through Islam and Will the West Rule Forever? Khalid al-Mansour is a black Muslim and a black nationalist |
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Mahshadin
Admin Group Joined: January 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3882 |
Posted: August 05 2012 at 8:37am | ||||
Elver why are you beating around the bush with all this deception and guilt by association crap. Spit it out, tell us what you really think instead of posting other peoples filth and hatred. You seem to be hung up on this racial devide stuff Why?
What does it matter what race he is? Do you think this matters? Whats your answer big man do we need a racial cleansing? Or is this just more fear anger and hatred of others with a political agenda attached, and if so what does that make you political party
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 05 2012 at 2:01pm | ||||
So? Big darn deal. My name is a *VERY* prominent Scottish name, that of a king, but that has absolutely nothing to do with who or what I am. Everyone in Africa has that kind of thing listed on them. While I was in Tunisia I had to list myself as either Christian or something else when I am neither. With the evil that is Islam, you either fit in or you die.
And my father is a social psychologist that was a professor in a university. Does that have dick to do with my beliefs?
This again? My name is a Scottish name and I'm Jewish. And I'm proud of my name. Nyah.
And I am the grandson of a sharecropper slave and a fourteen year old. Is that somehow more or less noble? Again it has DICK to do with my beliefs or upbringing. The rest of that post is farking drivel not worth the time to respond to. I have some mega huge disagreements with Zer0, but Ad Hominem isn't somewhere I'm going to go. I'll attack him on his record, because he's a damn catastrophe! |
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quietprepr
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Posted: August 06 2012 at 11:05am | ||||
I am with you Turbo...let's talk about deeds, not heritage or ancestry. There was a guy in the 1930's and 1940's who held people's ancestry against them regardless of deeds....his name was Hitler. It is a dangerous and slippery slope to use previous generations against someone now. It seems to me there are plenty of reasons for conservatives ( and even some libs!) to dislike this guy based on what he has done in the last four years...who cares about his ancestors?
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mrmouse
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Posted: August 06 2012 at 5:02pm | ||||
There's plenty of reason to move on from the Hope and Change nonsense.
The U.S. Economy By The Numbers: 70 Facts That Barack Obama Does Not Want You To See theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-u-s-economy-by-the-numbers-70-facts-that-barack-obama-does-not-want-you-to-see An interesting read. Far fetched, but may explain why we're always stuck with the same old lakes every four years. American Presidential Bloodlines www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/06/presidential-bloodlines.html?m=1 |
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Elver
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Posted: August 07 2012 at 6:53pm | ||||
The whole point of this is that he is a closet Muslim. He is not who he protrays himself to be. I certainly don't want an imposter as president. Also, if anyone had bothered to pay attention to his actions or more importantly inactions, you should have noticed that everything he does seems to undermine this country without being too obvious about it.
What kind of people vote based on identity poltics alone since this guy had no business experience and very little political experience?
1) He isn't supporting the pipeline which we needed so badly for both oil & jobs.
2) He is dragging his feet on oil drilling permit approval. In fact a court ordered him to act on these permits last year. Clinton agrees that there are ridiculous delays in permits approved, all this during a time when gas prices have risen over 100%!
3) His wife was on a You Tube video mouthing the words; "All this for a damned flag!" If she feels this way, then we can only wonder how her husband, our president, feels.
4) His TARP programs have raised our national debt to astronomical levels.
5) He has a Connecticut social security number (042-68-4425) & his birth certificate has been de-layered as an obvious fake.
6) He was caught on an open microphone & camera admitting to the Russians that there is more he can do in his 2nd term with regards to disarmament.
7) He was caught on camera admitting that there was more he was doing with regards to gun control which is our 2nd Amendment right.
8) He refuses to put his right hand over his heart during the planing of our National Anthem. He also never wore the flag pin prior to election. After that public pressure made him wear it. Why does our flag and National Anthem offend him so much?
9) He's offended two of our most important allies, England & Israel.
10) Rather than securing our borders, he proposes amnesty for illegal aliens. Therefore, we don't have any homeland security. If we did, we'd have a secure border.
11) In an interview on ABC he slipped up and admitted that he was a Muslim when he said that John McCain didn't ask him about his "Muslim religion". Find this on You Tube.
12) He has plans to cut our missle defense system. Why would he do this!
13) He's fake! He modifies his speech depending on who he's speaking to. If he speaks to a black audience, his speech modification is beyond the obvious. He tries to sound like a southern black man. If he wais an honest and forthright person, he wouldn't do this. He does this because he's a FAKE!
I could go on and on and on, but won't take the time here.
ISLAM is an ideology that is committed to destroying Israel and America. He was raised around a Muslum culture which has shaped who he is. If you have even the slightest doubt about this guy of highly questionable background, don't vote for him simply because he represents your Democratic party. Don't vote for him simply because you are trying to prove that you aren't a racist.
A vote for Obama is a vote for a closet Muslim who would rather bow to the Saudi King than the Queen of England. WHY!
A vote for Obama is a vote for socialism. So, enjoy that when it happens.
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 07 2012 at 7:24pm | ||||
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by abject stupidity. Zer0 really *IS* an idiot. The people that he surrounds himself with make G.W. and Cheney's Halliburton shenanigans look like a child stealing lunch money they're so absolutely corrupt. They're howling for Romeny to release his tax records while at the same time doing everything in their power to prevent Zer0's college records from getting out. Harry Reid asked how Romney could hold any office if he's a tax cheat, and HIS SIDE HAS AN OUT AND OUT TAX CHEAT IN THE CABINET!!! That said, those things have absolutely nothing to do with his heritage etc.
See how you did most of those above? *THOSE* are mostly legitimate complaints about the catastrophe that is Zer0's reign.
I wholeheartedly agree. A vote for him can only be from one of three kinds of people: 1. People who are simply not paying attention. 2. People who actively want something for free. 3. People who actually want our country to be a third world country in ten years. But if you say that you aren't going to vote for him because you think he's a Muslim, I hate to break it to you, but Romney's a Mormon. Who's religion is weirder? If you're going to insinuate that Zer0 doesn't want his college records released because he was using a resident alien tuition grant at a school he never attended, then got into an elite school with crap grades, I can feel you. Calling him a Muslim isn't going to work, but if that's your reason for not voting for him, more power to you. |
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mrmouse
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Posted: August 08 2012 at 11:40am | ||||
All of these allegations about this, that, and the other would be put to rest if he just kept his promise about transparency.
OBAMA’S COLLEGE CLASSMATE: ‘THE OBAMA SCANDAL IS AT COLUMBIA’ www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama’s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/ |
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Elver
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Posted: August 08 2012 at 6:21pm | ||||
Well, it looks like the criminal Obama administration didn't like The Blaze article & had it removed.
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 08 2012 at 7:06pm | ||||
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915823/posts it's many other places. |
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mrmouse
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Posted: August 09 2012 at 7:07pm | ||||
You get some truth when it comes from a third party US Senator! Maybe we can free ourselves if we free ourselves from the Left/Right paradigm!
youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8p-K7X99I&feature=share |
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 09 2012 at 9:52pm | ||||
mr
That is the smartest thing I have seen on these political posts in quite some time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! free ourselves from the Left/Right paradigm Most of the rest has and is just political theatre will very little truth with intentions of polarization. No one seems to get it though, to buzzzzy blaming everyone else instead of just looking in the mirror.
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Elver
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Posted: August 10 2012 at 9:25pm | ||||
If you want to understand our national debt, then watch this Tony Robbins video. Taxing the wealthy will not solve our problems. We have to CUT SPENDING on entitlements.
If you don't want to watch all 20 minutes worth, then forward to half way to get near where Tony talks about taxing the rich.
The problem is simply that we're stuck between a rock and a hard spot. Cut spending now and we'll collapse now. Spend and create more debt and we'll have a worse collapse later. Take your pick. Taxing the wealthy isn't going to fix this. We have exponential growth in our national debt. Nobody wants to face this problem, so a collapse is going to happen at some point.
The "tax the wealthy" is simply political rhetoric designed to get people to hate Republicans. Out of control spending created this problem.
Here's another video sure to get your attention. U.S. budget CAN'T be balanced.
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 10 2012 at 11:05pm | ||||
Well they cretainly have you conned
What a Laugher
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 11 2012 at 5:16am | ||||
Please explain how taking money from wealthy people and giving it to government is going to fix the economy. I'll wait. The government is a net loss to the economy and wealth redistribution just plain out does not work. Then I want you to explain how any part of Zer0's economic policy has even been a slight success. Again I'll wait. The bottom line is that taking money/raising taxes on the people who *MAKE* jobs and giving it to government isn't going to help the economy. Zer0's policies have been an economic catastrophe. |
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 11 2012 at 10:57am | ||||
Please explain how giving another 15% tax cut to millionares and billionares is going to fix the economy. The record and history shows just the opposite unless of course you believe in the falacies and fictional crap being spread by the radical right. Wake up TG this is not a you vs me him vs her them vers us.
Its about whats right and whats wrong (That Simple)
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 11 2012 at 11:06am | ||||
Anf please dont give us the Same Old Trickle Me Down Some Ecoenomic BS
IT was a scam the first time and its a scam now A broken record that has failed and refuses to go way. Maybe this time it will just take down the whole Country, of course thats what some are rooting for anyway!
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Elver
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Posted: August 11 2012 at 9:18pm | ||||
You can take more money from the wealthy if you want, but the Democrats will only spend it. That is the problem. Perhaps we need to tax more & spend WAY less. The economy is on a course to collapse due to all the unfunded liabilities of social security, Medicare, Part D, Welfare, Food Stamps, and supplemental income for all those illegal Mexicans who keep running across the border because we simply do not have Homeland Security. If you want to talk about what's a joke, then it is Homeland Security. We should rename it to Homeland INSECURITY!
So, Mahshadin, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN TO FIX THIS MESS?
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 12 2012 at 6:54am | ||||
GIVING!?! You think that we're GIVING them an extra 15%?!? As in all wealth comes from the government? I'll let you in on a little secret: Absolutely no wealth comes from the government, Obama's corruption aside. (Solyndra etc) If the government lets me keep another 10,500 a year, I'll be pretty happy. Here's a crazy idea: How about we let people keep the money they've earned? You on the left keep going on about how we need to make the rich pay their fair share, but they're already paying 90% of the total tax bill while those under $50,000 don't pay a dime. The bottom line is that giving money to government simply does not help the economy. This game of class warfare is old and tired. Especially so utilizing the government to force wealth equality. |
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 12 2012 at 7:07am | ||||
Bullsheit. The problem for you guys on the Left is that Reagan's policies *WORKED.* Taxes were cut drastically, the Left howled that blood would run in the streets, the economy soared, and tax revenue at the government actually went up. Christ's sakes, even Clinton said that raising taxes at times like these is an astoundingly bad idea. Government does not create jobs. Private businesses do. They can not afford to hire more people when the government takes a large cut. Example: My family owns a large amount of rental property and employ six people nearly full time. My father's business clears right around $1,000,000 a year in revenue. Are they rich? Problem is that taxes take their cut, we pay appx $250,000 in employee salaries/insurance, expenses, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Bottom line they make right around $150,000 a year. Are they rich? Technically they're millionaires, realistically they're doing pretty good, but raise their taxes fifteen percent and they're going to be either reducing pay, skimping on property upkeep, or outright firing some of the employees. Government kills jobs. Giving the government more money from small businesses is what will kill our economy. Zer0's cataclysmic policies is what will surely take down the country. Nobody in history has done as much damage as Zer0. |
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 12 2012 at 8:27am | ||||
Yup your right Obama spent a lot of money (FOR WHAT) to clean up the Right Wing Mess, which of course you or any of the right will not accept responsability for. The Republican President, Senate, and house Spent and grew government more than the 4 previoous adminsistrations combined and didnt pay for any of it. All you all want to do is scream and yell about everyone else and never face the music of your own (What A Joke). You call me a flaming liberal which I am not, I simply will not sit back and allow this filth and lies to continue without some rational discussion of REALITY. They have recieved their break in a VERY LARGE WAY, over 50% tax break over that period (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH). Even Reagan realized this during his administration and raised taxes 9 times when it was neccessary, but I am sure todays radical right will not acknowledge this or come up with some BS story to feed you. The top 1 percent has done well getting breaks from government over the past thirty years while the other 99% have all given up or paid more (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH). At this point this kind of replaying past policy on todays environment is just outright IRRESPONSIBLE. You all like to spen like drunken soldiers when your in office and then when it comes to pay for it you blame someone else or the poor for your own broken record policies that happened to woirk once and have failed over and over again since. ITS TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK, Stop blaming everone else for your problems and take a good look in the mirror which is where you will find the snaswers if you brave enough to admit to mistakes and bad policy. Based on what I am hereing I doubt it though looks like were headed for another OFF the Cliff as the right has turened itself in to a dictorial establishment and refuses to discuss any other policy and acting like stubborn children who have their toy taken away from them.
This my way or the highway approach the republican party has embraced recently is what will bring down this country as they create more and more gridlock trying to shovel more and more of the countries wealth to the top 1%.
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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Elver
Valued Member Joined: June 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7778 |
Posted: August 12 2012 at 11:07pm | ||||
Mahsahdin, Get a grip! That right wing mess that you refer to was created when the democrats moved social security into the general fund & spent it year after year after year!
The next problem occurred when George Bush created Medicare part D (drug plan). This is a humongous expenditure, which our government simply cannot afford. Plus, we are now giving supplemental security income (SSI) to illegal aliens. Also, for the record, Obama has outspent Bush's 8 years in only 3.5 years. We simply cannot afford this. Also, you cannot tell me in good conscience that you have never known anybody to milk the system for personal gain. I'm referring to people who take their unemployment with no intention of looking for work. I'm referring to people who spend beyond their means, lose their home, & then end up on welfare and food stamps. We all know someone who abuses the system and when you multiply that by the entire country, then you have more waste.
All Obama has ever done is blame everyone but himself. He hasn't and won't ever accept responsibility for anything!
Understand one thing, this problem is not fixable! The problem is one of exponential growth of the national debt. Blame all Republicans if you want, but BOTH parties are to blame. I just happen to feel that the Democrats are slightly more to blame because of all their liberal social spending programs. www.nationaldebtclock.org
If you looked at the two video's that I posted on page 2 of this thread, you would realize that taxing the rich at 100% of their entire income & confiscating their entire fortunes cannot possibly fix this mess. Nobody can fix this mess. So, why don't you look in the mirror and ask yourself how you can possibly blame a single party or president.
The problem is SOCIAL PROGRAMS that we cannot afford any longer. Social programs are what the Democratic party has always been about!
If you want to talk about "dictatorial establishment", then look at your own Democratic party who pushed through Obamacare and wouldn't give anyone time to even read it. They rammed that down Republican's throats. Now you expect that Republican's will want to work with them on anything? In fact, Obamacare wasn't even up for debate!!! Tactics like this is why we are stuck with an unworkable government. In using your words above, this was the Democratic party's "my way or the highway" on healthcare. Don't blame anybody but you're own liberal, left-wing, Democratic party for this crap.
Once again, all you do is complain, but I haven't heard you make one statement about what you would do to fix our national debt problem except to "blame" Republican's for not taxing the rich enough. Put up or shut up & explain what you would do to fix this if you were the president!!!
I don't believe we can spend our way out of this because we've got very little to show for all the trillions that were spent during the Obama years. Obama went along with the Fed on this idea, but it hasn't worked. I read a few years back that we're going down like an elevator with its cables cut & I believe he was right.
All I've been able to discern from your posts is tunnel vision on your left leaning ways while you refuse to look recognize that our problems were not created by a single party. There's more than enough blame to go around. In fact I'd like to do away with the two party system and have people simply vote their conscience rather than party lines for everything.
I hope you take the time to listen to the speech regarding the jobs outsourcing problem.
Page down once & watch the Economic Decline of America.
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Mahshadin
Admin Group Joined: January 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3882 |
Posted: August 13 2012 at 9:04am | ||||
Of course Elver
Its always someone else Time To Wake up and stop being a Political Zombie This Zombielike following not only of the Right but of the Left as well that is the problem. The in ability to accept responsability and absolute refusal to do so is the big lie of our time. Alway blaming others for your demise rather than just looking in the mirror where it really exists. As in most posts like this, I am simply bringing to light the obvious deception not a political stance or position which you and others have mis-interpreted as political ideology, which is just not the case. It is not one or the other, this is the great deception and those who support such idiology to the point of deception are the deception and it is time for everyone to start understanding this!!! |
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Elver
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Posted: August 13 2012 at 8:38pm | ||||
So, what is your grandiose solution? I'm waiting............................................................
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 7:21am | ||||
Hahahaha! Last I checked the Democrats had hegemonic control of both houses of congress two years into Bush's second term, and a rubber stamp president when things started getting really ugly, and things didn't start really going downhill until they had control. I actually distinctly recall Bush warning the American people that the housing mess was coming and you on the left shouted him down because he was "Stupid." "Bawwney Fwank" specifically made millions off the mess and was the guy chiefly calling Bush a liar for even insinuating that we could use our properties as ATM machines.
Looks to me like W was actually smarter than you gave him credit for.
That said, Bush was a Liberal just like Zer0, who seems to be blazing the same trail Bush himself did a few years ago. And Zer0's been the boss for some time now, blaming the Right for your side's failures just isn't going to hunt anymore. We tried your way, Europe lives your way, and they are abject failures.
But maybe we should just pass all Liberal legislation so we can see what's in it?
Zer0 didn't spend money trying to clean up schit. He spent all that money literally gang raping medicare and throwing it at his political buddies. I know where all this vitriol from you comes from, and it's not from disgust with the Republicans, it's with yourself for being hoodwinked into believing that Zer0'd be anything different.
I've said no such thing. Zer0 is a failure. Accept it. You voted for him just as I voted for W at the time. Both are failures. Abject failures. I've accepted that my vote was wasted, perhaps it is high time that you accept and admit that you voted in a failure and move on.
So we need to tax more? How about spending less?
Mahshadin the top one percent is paying ALL THE GOD DAMNED TAXES!!! The bottom 70% doesn't pay a damn thing. That is FACT. How damned much more do you want from those people? I'll say it again because I think you missed it: If you make less than $50,000 a year you're not paying anything in taxes.
Holy jumping jehosaphat! Isn't that *EXACTLY* what the Left is doing right now????? The policies of the Left plain out don't work. PERIOD. So they're screaming that we need to keep doing what's killing us for it to work and blaming someone that hasn't been in office in four years when they had full, filibuster proof majorities in all legislative branches of government for four years.
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Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views. - William F. Buckley
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Elver
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Posted: August 22 2012 at 4:01pm | ||||
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term didn’t exist at that time ? This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Now we need a non-revised history book—one that hasn’t been altered to satisfy the author’s goals—to verify that WW II Why doesn't anybody care about these mistakes which point to the obvious fact that his birth certificate is a FAKE!
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Turboguy
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Posted: August 22 2012 at 6:34pm | ||||
No it doesn't. It says "African."
This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Very, *VERY* interesting.
Now that *IS* interesting.
Ordinarily
I'd agree with you that something's up here, but he's been shown
conclusively that he's an out and out liar and piece of crap. I'm 50/50
on whether or not he's lying on this one. Strange when being a liar might help him, isn't it? |
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Elver
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Posted: August 23 2012 at 11:03pm | ||||
I feel 100% positive that his birth certificate is a fake. Nobody used the word African back in the sixties. The term was "negro".
Why also does he use a dead guys social security number from Connecticut?
I wonder constantly if his loyalties lie more with the Muslim countries than with the U.S. He's got a lot of ties to Muslims as well as his own schooling in Indonesia.
If in doubt, vote him out!
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 1:35am | ||||
I heard from a secret friend of a friend he has a nazi tatoo
run hide get the gun
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 1:38am | ||||
Oh wait just got independent confirmation that was the other guy
WOOPS
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 1:42am | ||||
or was that the KKK
hold up ill have to check with my confidential iletist friend
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Mahshadin
Admin Group Joined: January 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3882 |
Posted: August 24 2012 at 1:50am | ||||
Hold thatt thought
I just got a report with independant confirmation from a military source that there is actually a covert Russian Invasion sponsored by Obama happening right now with thousands of troops staged in Canada and Mexico ready to come take our guns away Get Prepared People ___________________________________________________________________________n ___________________________________________________________________________ Wait Wait
I just recieved this memo, from an anonomous governmental source with independant confirmation so i c alled my secret eletist friend who told me that Obama is actually the leader of the Muslim Brotherhodd and that all this has been planned since his birth with thousands of collaborators from hawaii to chicago to washington. OMG Get A Gun Buy some Amo Dig A Hole, buy a lead helmet |
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mrmouse
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 7:08pm | ||||
Why do we continue down this rabbit hole? It's completely irrelevant if Obama is black, white, yellow or red. Christian, Muslim, Budist, Morman or Jewish. Socialist, Marxist, or Democrat. Simply judge him by his character, deeds and accomplishments over the past four years. And, don't get distracted by FoxNews, CNN, or MSNBC feeding us their non-stop bull****. We all have eyes and ears, and a mouth, we all know what's going on around us without someone telling us so.
If you feel Obama has kept his campaign promise of Hope and Change, vote for him. If you feel Obama failed to keep his campain promises, vote for some else. The bottom line is, for good or bad the American people elected him, so he's a reflection of who we are as a nation. |
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Elver
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 8:56pm | ||||
Liberals who favor Obama don't want to hear the truth.
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Mahshadin
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 9:19pm | ||||
Yup thats gotta be it Elver
Not the Right, everyone else Get Real This is like a Bad Record that just needs to be thrown away already __________________________________________________________________ I think what you actually meant to say was this Liberals who favor Obama don't want to hear the Conspiricy Theory. Please stop confusing the Truth for that, they are not even remotely on the same planet
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