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Situation: Saturday 15 May Undersea dispersant application resumed this morning and BP is doing continuous testing. If tests reveal something we are concerned about the dispersant application will be stopped.
Skimming and in-situ burning was planned but postponed until the weather is more moderate. Aerial dispersant application did take place.
Tarballs were reported west of Galveston, Texas to the Florida panhandle. Testing already underway has shown some tarballs to be from this spill and others not.
As of today, 1.6 million feet of boom have been deployed, and all the ports remain open. Over 11,000 people were working on the response today. NOAA's Damage Assessment Remediation and Restoration Program (DARRP) is
conducting a Natural Resource Damage Assessment (NRDA). From past experience, NOAA is concerned about oil impacts to fish, shellfish, marine mammals, turtles, birds and other sensitive resources, as well as their habitats, including wetlands, mudflats, beaches, bottom sediments and the water column.
Any lost uses of these resources, for example, fishery and beach closures, will also be evaluated. The focus currently is to assemble existing data on resources and their habitats and collect baseline (pre-spill impact) data. Data on oiled resources and habitats are also being collected.
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Pre-spill precautions ( were not enough ) Although the BP wellhead had a blowout preventer (BOP) installed, it was not fitted with additional remote-control or acoustically activated triggers for use in case of an emergency requiring a rig to be evacuated: it did have a "deadman" switch designed to automatically cut the pipe and seal the well if communication from the rig is lost, but this switch did not activate.[49] Both Norway and Brazil require the device on all offshore rigs, but when the Minerals Management Service considered requiring the remote device, a report commissioned by the agency, as well as drilling companies, questioned its cost (approximately $500,000) and effectiveness.[49]
In 2003 the agency ultimately determined that the device would not be required because rigs had other back-up systems to cut off a well.[49][50]
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Sunday, May. 16, 2010BP finally connects mile-long pipe to begin capping oil spillBy JAWEED KALEEM - McClatchy Newspapers Article/ VIDEO
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If BP underestimated the amount of oil leakage, then how do we know they are actually capturing 80% of it now? There are concerns that the current could bring the oil out into the Atlantic & up the coast. Apparently there is a lot of unseen oil beneath the surface of the water.
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Nuke the Gulf Oil Gusher, Russians SuggestBy Jeremy Hsu, LiveScience Senior Writerposted: 12 May 2010 12:04 pm ET Using a nuclear explosion to try to plug the gushing oil well in the Gulf of Mexico might sound like overkill, but a Russian newspaper has suggested just that based on past Soviet successes. Even so, there are crucial differences between the lessons of the past and the current disaster unfolding.
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From what I have read they are estimating capturing 20% (1/5th) of the spill using the insertion tube, with 80% still gushing into the Golf. Is that number 80% a total for disbursments, skimmed and the insertion tube?
Who knows on the amount, is is an estimate at best and the NOAA has said this again and again. They just do not have a way of measuring this at over a milr deep, just like they dont have a plan for dealing with it over a mile deep.
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http://salem-news.com/articles/may142010/oil-cheney-ro.phpGulf Oil Spill: Ties to Cheney and Acoustic Switch Not InstalledRobert O'Dowd Salem-News.comGround work for Gulf disaster was established with a permissive tone with oil industry set in secret meetings in 2001. An acoustic switch to automatically shut down oil wells was reversed by Federal agency in 2003 may be a major factor in blowup.
(WASHINGTON, D.C.) - In secret meetings with the oil company officials in 2001, incoming Vice President Cheney set the foundation for a permissive, welcome mat with the oil industry. After stocking the Federal government’s Material Management Service with his cronies, this agency reversed an earlier 2000 decision requiring a mandatory accusatorial regulator, allowing BP and others not to install a $500,000 acoustic switch to automatically shut down oil gushers. For BP, this had to be a dumb business decision. BP’s $650 million dollar well may have been saved by a half million investment in an acoustic switch. For the country and those living and working in the Gulf region, the final tab may very well be in the billions.
Cheney’s Halliburton is connected to the April 20th explosion. The investigation of the cause of the blowup is not completed. As it turned out, Halliburton completed an operation to reinforce the drilling hole casing with concrete before the explosion. Halliburton is currently under investigation for a blowout in the Timor Sea caused by a faulty concrete casing. The Material Management Service reported that 18 of 39 blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico were due to poor workmanship in injecting the cement around the well casing. Was Cheney’s Halliburton responsible for the April 20th blowout? Stay tuned. In the end, responsibility for the explosion and the extensive damages from it may well be decided by a jury. On April 20th, BP’s Deepwater Horizon oil rig went up in flames some 50 miles southeast of Louisiana, killing 11 men. It’s May 14th and BP hasn’t capped the gusher, vehemently denies concern over measuring the spill; its only interest is in capping the gusher. The company appears content with the ‘low ball’ 5,000 barrel/day number prepared by our government. I guess it wouldn’t be good PR to admit to a 70,000 barrel/day gusher, even one at 5,000 feet deep in the Gulf. If this engineering estimate prepared by Purdue University is on target, that’s a lot of oil dumped into the Gulf of Mexico. At 42 gallons per barrel, the Purdue estimate equates to about 3 million gallons per day. For a company that claims its focus is on plugging the leak, none of their efforts have been even marginally successful. The 100 ton doom didn’t work nor did the smaller ‘top hat.’ Other efforts are underway. No back, ugly oil stains on the beaches, but with the gusher at such great depths and the high volume of dispersants, there much to be concerned about. Will we ever be able to eat Louisiana shrimp again? Even if BP doesn’t want to measure the gusher, don’t we need to estimate the “total oil spill” to begin to understand the environmental impact? Congressman Edward Markey thinks so. Congressman Edward Markey (D, MA), who chairs a Congressional subcommittee on energy and the environment, a miscalculation of the oil spill’s volume may hamper efforts to stop it. Markey said, “I am concerned that an underestimation of the oil spill’s flow may be impeding the ability to solve the leak and handle the management of the disaster,” he said in a statement Thursday. “If you don’t understand the scope of the problem, the capacity to find the answer is severely compromised.” Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., analysis in the Huffington Post on May 5th, “Sex, Lies and Oil Spills, provides valuable insight into the shenanigans between Material Management Service officials and big oil. The sad part is that this is not fiction, even though some of this makes “Peyton Place” look like a kindergarten at play in comparison. Kennedy’s story is reproduced below. President, Waterkeeper Alliance; Professor, Pace University Posted: May 5, 2010 10:19 AM A common spin in the right wing coverage of BP’s oil spill is a gleeful suggestion that the gulf blowout is Obama’s Katrina. In truth, culpability for the disaster can more accurately be laid at the Bush Administration’s doorstep. For eight years, George Bush’s presidency infected the oil industry’s oversight agency, the Minerals Management Service, with a septic culture of corruption from which it has yet to recover. Oil patch alumnae in the White House encouraged agency personnel to engineer weakened safeguards that directly contributed to the gulf catastrophe. The absence of an acoustical regulator — a remotely triggered dead man’s switch that might have closed off BP’s gushing pipe at its sea floor wellhead when the manual switch failed (the fire and explosion on the drilling platform may have prevented the dying workers from pushing the button) — was directly attributable to industry pandering by the Bush team. Acoustic switches are required by law for all offshore rigs off Brazil and in Norway’s North Sea operations. BP uses the device voluntarily in Britain’s North Sea and elsewhere in the world as do other big players like Holland’s Shell and France’s Total. In 2000, the Minerals Management Service while weighing a comprehensive rulemaking for drilling safety, deemed the acoustic mechanism “essential” and proposed to mandate the mechanism on all gulf rigs. Then, between January and March of 2001, incoming Vice President Dick Cheney conducted secret meetings with over 100 oil industry officials allowing them to draft a wish list of industry demands to be implemented by the oil friendly administration. Cheney also used that time to re-staff the Minerals Management Service with oil industry toadies including a cabal of his Wyoming carbon cronies. In 2003, newly reconstituted Minerals Management Service genuflected to the oil cartel by recommending the removal of the proposed requirement for acoustic switches. The Minerals Management Service’s 2003 study concluded that “acoustic systems are not recommended because they tend to be very costly.” The acoustic trigger costs about $500,000. Estimated costs of the oil spill to Gulf Coast residents are now upward of $14 billion to gulf state communities. Bush’s 2005 energy bill officially dropped the requirement for the acoustic switch off devices explaining that the industry’s existing practices are “failsafe.” Bending over for Big Oil became the ideological posture of the Bush White House, and, under Cheney’s cruel whip, the practice trickled down through the regulatory bureaucracy. The Minerals Management Service — the poster child for “agency capture phenomena” — hopped into bed with the regulated industry — literally. A 2009 investigation of the Minerals Management Service found that agency officials “frequently consumed alcohol at industry functions, had used cocaine and marijuana and had sexual relationships with oil and gas company representatives.” Three reports by the Inspector General describe an open bazaar of payoffs, bribes and kickbacks spiced with scenes of female employees providing sexual favors to industry big wigs who in turn rewarded government workers with illegal contracts. In one incident reported by the Inspector General, agency employees got so drunk at a Shell sponsored golf event that they could not drive home and had to sleep in hotel rooms paid for by Shell. Pervasive intercourse also characterized their financial relations. Industry lobbyists underwrote lavish parties and showered agency employees with illegal gifts, and lucrative personal contracts and treated them to regular golf, ski, and paintball outings, trips to rock concerts and professional sports events. The Inspector General characterized this orgy of wheeling and dealing as “a culture of ethical failure” that cost taxpayers millions in royalty fees and produced reams of bad science to justify unregulated deep water drilling in the gulf. It is charitable to characterize the ethics of these government officials as “elastic.” They seemed not to have existed at all. The Inspector General reported with some astonishment that Bush’s crew at the MMS, when confronted with the laundry list of bribery, public theft and sexual and financial favors to and from industry “showed no remorse.” BP’s confidence in lax government oversight by a badly compromised agency still staffed with Bush era holdovers may have prompted the company to take two other dangerous shortcuts. First, BP failed to install a deep hole shut off valve — another fail-safe that might have averted the spill. And second, BP’s reported willingness to violate the law by drilling to depths of 22,000-25,000 feet instead of the 18,000 feet maximum depth allowed by its permit may have contributed to this catastrophe. And wherever there’s a national tragedy involving oil, Cheney’s offshore company Halliburton is never far afield. In fact, stay tuned; Halliburton may emerge as the primary villain in this caper. The blow out occurred shortly after Halliburton completed an operation to reinforce drilling hole casing with concrete slurry. This is a sensitive process that, according to government experts, can trigger catastrophic blowouts if not performed attentively. According to the Minerals Management Service, 18 of 39 blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico since 1996 were attributed to poor workmanship injecting cement around the metal pipe. Halliburton is currently under investigation by the Australian government for a massive blowout in the Timor Sea in 2005 caused by its faulty application of concrete casing. The Obama administration has assigned nearly 2,000 federal personnel from the Coast Guard, the Corps of Engineers, the Department of Defense, the Department of Commerce, EPA, NOAA and Department of Interior to deal with the spill — an impressive response. Still, the current White House is not without fault — the government should, for example, be requiring a far greater deployment of absorbent booms. But the real culprit in this villainy is a negligent industry, the festering ethics of the Bush Administration and poor oversight by an agency corrupted by eight years of grotesque subservience to Big Oil. =============================================== |
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Updated May 17, 2010 Interior Department's Top Oil and Gas Official Quits in Wake of Gulf Oil SpillFOXNews.com ................
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Starting to look like BP taking to many shortcuts Including shortcutting the capping of this well. |
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The Deepwater Horizon oil spill trajectory hindcast/forecast based on West Florida Shelf ROMS
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Yesterday Tuesday 05/18/2010
 Wednesday 05/19/2010
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 This is a joint effort of the Ocean Circulation Group and the Optical Oceanography Laboratory at College of Marine Science, University of South Florida to track/predict the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico using simulated drifters/particles. Drifter trajectories were calculated based on the three-hourly surface currents from the West Florida Shelf ROMS Nowcast/Forecast System of University of South Florida. Virtual particles were released from the sunken rig site every three hours, assuming continual oil spill from the well. The initial locations of the drifters were inferred from the latest satellite sensed oil slick patches. The subsequent movements of the virtual particles were estimated by the model, not by observations. It must be recognized that all forecast models have errors that grow with time for a variety of reasons. This is one reason why it is important to consider comparative analyses from several different models. The particles (difters) are shown as black dots, and their trajectries in magenta. Macondo well is designated by the red circle. Sea surface temperature (color contours, units in deg C) was superimposed with the surface current vectors to indicate the surface ocean circulation. The velocity data were subsampled every the third grid points in both east and north directions for better visulization. Questions or comments, please contact Prof. Robert H. Weisberg or Dr. Yonggang Liu.
Reminder: This page will be updated daily, and the oil spill tracking/prediction may be updated several times a day during the emergency period. Please refresh your web browser each time to make sure what you see are the latest updates. Disclaimer: The nowcast/forecast system and other analyses/data are research products under development. No warranty is made, expressed or implied, regarding accuracy, or regarding the suitability for any particular application. All rights reserved University of South Florida. Copyright University of South Florida 05/06/2010. _____________________________________________________________________
Go to the wesite and you can see more detailed maps and clips (Select Play Button).
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Here is a view of 4 different surface oil slick models running side by side
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Go here if you want to see model data for subsurface oil slick
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Gulf Oil Spill: The Slick We Didn’t SeeWritten by Bill Finch  Bill Finch, the director of conservation for The Nature Conservancy in Alabama, is blogging for Cool Green Science about the Gulf of Mexico oil spill and the Conservancy's efforts in Alabama to protect shellfish reef restoration projects there from the coming slick. Read all his posts.
Nothing could be uglier and more immediately gut-wrenching than a slick onshore. It would be a godsend for the evening news: There’d be hours of eye-catching footage of a black tide drifting over blue water, birds coated in oil, black goo clinging to the beaches and marshes. The spill would be most visible right where most of us ankle-deep sea lovers can see it best. You get the sense that a lot of the folks out trying to tame the spill know that, and they seem to be doing everything they can to spare us such a spectacle. The fact that the oil has to bubble up through a mile of water before it hits the surface has helped, but it appears the dispersants are working exactly as advertised: They're burying this slick under the waves where none of us on shore can see it, where measuring it and predicting its path will be extremely difficult, where all the oil-catching booms and Dawn detergent in the world will be beside the point. By nearly every reckoning now, the oil that didn't go ashore has been stirred into the Gulf, until the waters are dark as black tea thousands of feet below the surface. Because it hasn't been exposed to the air, as it would have been had it risen to the surface, it hasn't lost its most volatile and toxic compounds. Somehow kitchen metaphors come to mind when describing it: One scientist refers to giant plumes with the consistency of salad dressing, miles long, miles wide, several hundred feet thick. Finally, it's becoming obvious to all of us, scientists, fishermen, lovers of the Gulf: We should have worried first about the slick we didn't see. Because what matters in the Gulf isn't what you can see standing on the balcony of a beach condo. What matters is what's happening in the deep space where few of us ever go — that plunging realm of seawater that supports the life of the Gulf and the livelihood of all of us who depend on those waters. By dispersing this oil so efficiently, we have in effect multiplied the contact zones, assuring that all life at every level of the Gulf will feel the impact. Consider the flea-sized creatures that would have been your crab supper, your blackened redfish, your fresh Gulf shrimp platter a year or two from now. It's the big spring rush of reproduction in the Gulf. Fish and shellfish in the marshes are sending off tiny eggs and fry for the long journey offshore; fish and shellfish in the depths of the continental shelf are giving up their young to the currents, hoping they'll make it back to the marsh. These helpless creatures don't swim: They trust the motions of the Gulf to take them where they need to go. Those are the same motions that carry clouds of what we now like to describe as the toxic salad dressing of the spill. A dolphin might have the fins and sense to swim the other way. The new generations of Gulf Coast sea life can only move where the Gulf and all it carries takes them. Here's a picture for the evening news: Imagine milky clouds of eggs and larvae, from crabs, shrimp, redfish, from virtually every sea creature you've ever heard of and then a thousand species more, floating suspended in the deep waters of the Gulf. On the wind-like currents that rise and fall in the open seas, they drift like dandelion seeds. Then imagine another cloud, 10 or 15 miles long, several hundred feet from top to bottom, and 3 to 4 miles wide, a rusty emulsion of oil that clings to everything it touches. Now imagine these two clouds merging in the currents of the Gulf. A good photographer, if he didn't mind swimming through toxic salad dressing, could even capture the poetry in the way they meet, those big-eyed young of crabs, shrimp and fish, quietly dispatched with each kiss of oil. Frame that picture in your mind, because it will explain a lot about what you won't see over the next few years – the crab cakes that won't be on the menu in your favorite restaurant, the redfish, mackerel and snapper sports fishermen won’t be bringing home, the jobs and businesses that won’t be there because they depended on the bounty of the Gulf, the shore birds that simply starve because they can't find food to eat. (Image: Shrimp boat on the Gulf of Mexico off Biloxi, Mississippi. Image credit: Casino Jones/Flickr through a Creative Commons license.) |
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hi Mahs... I like that photo. I had to take a break today... I wondered how many felt an overwhelming sadness...so I googled that- seems a lot of folks feel it.
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NASA image reveals new oil trail hundreds of kilometers long in the Gulf
Jeremy Hance mongabay.com May 19, 2010 A new NASA image of the Gulf oil spill shows a trail of oil extending hundreds of kilometers south and then southeast from the spill. At points this new oil trail is at least twenty kilometers wide. Media groups are saying the new arm may be additional proof that oil has been caught up in the Loop Current, which would carry the pollution to Florida coastlines and possibly even the East coast.
Yesterday it was reported that tar balls�small blobs of oil�were washing up on the Florida coast, however researchers are now saying that after testing those tar balls were not from the BP oil spill. Today the NOAA said that a "small amount" of oil had entered the loop, and the European Space Agency has said that their satellite images also show that the oil has entered the current. The Gulf oil spill began on April 20th when the BP Deepwater Horizon rig exploded killing eleven and releasing oil from over a mile below the surface. While BP and the government claim the oil has been spilling at a rate of 5,000 barrels a day (210,000 gallons a day), recent video has caused some researchers to say the rate of oil releasing into the Gulf could be ten times that much. NASA captured the image with satellite, revealing the unknown oil trail by waiting for ocean waves to blur sunlight which allows the oil sheen to standout.  The Gulf oil spill with long trail of oil spreading south-southeast. Image courtesy of NASA.
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Hey mary008
That is a good photo, you dont really get at first glance but then it sinks in.
the link was kewl
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Heavy Oil Hits Louisiana Wetlands  _______________________________________________________________
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Another Delay
Looks Like Mud Pack Plan will be delayed until maybe Tuesday
Amazing!!!!!
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A big thak you to the U.S. Coast Guard and Louisiana National Guard
for constructing booms and land bridges to protect Louisiana's wildlife.
there is a four mile area of beach that was hit by crude crud....
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please see more articles on BreakingNews...
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Frustration mounts as oil seeps into Gulf wetlands
By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Greg Bluestein, Associated Press Writer 45 mins ago
ROBERT, La. Anger grew along the Gulf Coast as an ooze of oil washed into delicate coastal wetlands in Louisiana, with many wondering how to clean up the monthlong mess especially now that BP's latest try to plug the blown-out well won't happen until at least Tuesday. "It's difficult to clean up when you haven't stopped the source," said Chris Roberts, a councilman for Jefferson Parish, which stretches from the New Orleans metropolitan area to the coast. "You can scrape it off the beach but it's coming right back." Roberts surveyed the oil that forced officials to close a public beach on Grand Isle, south of New Orleans, as globs of crude that resembled melted chocolate washed up. Others questioned why BP PLC was still in charge of the response. "The government should have stepped in and not just taken BP's word," declared Wayne Stone of Marathon, Fla., an avid diver who worries about the spill's effect on the ecosystem. The government is overseeing the cleanup and response, but the official responsible for the oversight said he understands the discontent. "If anybody is frustrated with this response, I would tell them their symptoms are normal, because I'm frustrated, too," said Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen. "Nobody likes to have a feeling that you can't do something about a very big problem." As simple as it may seem, the law prevents the government from just taking over, Allen said. After the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska, Congress dictated that oil companies be responsible for dealing with major accidents including paying for all cleanup with oversight by federal agencies. BP, which is in charge of the cleanup, said it will be at least Tuesday before engineers can shoot mud into the blown-out well at the bottom of the Gulf, yet another delay in the effort to stop the oil. A so-called "top kill" has been tried on land but never 5,000 feet underwater, so scientists and engineers have spent the past week preparing and taking measurements to make sure it will stop the oil that has been spewing into the sea for a month. They originally hoped to try it as early as this weekend. BP spokesman Tom Mueller said there was no snag in the preparations, but that the company must get equipment in place and finish tests before the procedure can begin. "It's taking time to get everything set up," he said. "They're taking their time. It's never been done before. We've got to make sure everything is right." Crews will shoot heavy mud into a crippled piece of equipment atop the well, which started spewing after the drilling rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 off the coast of Louisiana, killing 11 workers. Then engineers will direct cement at the well to permanently stop the oil. BP, which was leasing the rig and is responsible for the cleanup, has tried and failed several times to halt the oil. Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said Friday that a mile-long tube inserted into the leaking pipe is sucking about 92,400 gallons of oil a day to the surface, a figure much lower than the 210,000 gallons a day the company said the tube was sucking up Thursday. Suttles said the higher number is the most the tube has been sucking up at any one time, while the lower number is the average. Crews have been using oil-soaking booms to corral the spill, and BP said Saturday that booms made of hair would not be used because they don't absorb enough oil and sink too quickly. The company has conceded that more oil is leaking than its initial estimate of 210,000 gallons a day total, and a government team is working to get a handle on exactly how much is flowing. Even under the most conservative estimate, about 6 million gallons have leaked so far, more than half the amount spilled by the Exxon Valdez. On Saturday, the blossoming investigation into the spill progressed when President Barack Obama announced that former Florida Sen. Bob Graham and former EPA Administrator William K. Reilly will lead a presidential commission probing the spill. Graham, a Democrat, is a former Florida governor and senator. Reilly ran the Environmental Protection Agency under Republican President George H.W. Bush. His tenure at the agency included the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska. Obama intends to name five others to the panel. Meanwhile, frustrated local and state officials were also waiting for the Army Corps of Engineers to issue permits so they can build sand berms in front of islands and wetlands to act as buffers between the advancing oil and the wetlands. In a statement, corps spokesman Ken Holder said officials understand the urgency, but possible environmental effects must be evaluated before even an emergency permit can be issued. Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry also took BP to task for not responding aggressively enough to oil coming ashore in Terrebonne Parish, La., to the west of the mouth of the Mississippi River. Public interest in the spill is high after lawmakers pressed BP for a live video feed of the leak this week, so many people tried to view it that they crashed the government Web site where it was posted. BP executives say the only guaranteed solution to stop the leak is a pair of relief wells crews have already started drilling, but the work will not be complete for at least two months. That makes the stakes even higher for the top kill. Scientists say there is a chance a misfire could lead to new problems. Ed Overton, a Louisiana State University professor of environmental studies, said the crippled piece of equipment called a blowout preventer could spring a new leak that could spew untold gallons of oil if there's a weak spot that is vulnerable to pressure from the heavy mud. BP is also developing several other plans in case the top kill doesn't work, including an effort to shoot knotted rope, pieces of tire and other material known as a junk shot to plug the blowout preventer, which was meant to shut off the oil in case of an accident but did not work. ___ Associated Press writers Matthew Daly in Washington and Kevin McGill in New Orleans contributed to this report. |
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The I cannot see how this "top shot" is going to work. Normally to kill a well, you have the BOP closed, then pump in heavy mud through valves on the side of the BOP stack. The mud forces the oil back down and the weight of the mud column balances out the pressure of the oil and gas trying to come up. With the BOP not closed the mud will just get blown back out of the well as it is pumped in. It seems to me that BP is just trying all kinds of screw ball procedures to buy time. "We're working on it and here is our next option, but it will take a week or so". They know, that the American people will not stand for a massively polluting blowout lasting until August, when the relief wells are completed, but that’s probably what is going to happen. So far the only break that BP has gotten was that the rig did not sink on top of the well head. |
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Oil Spill Gulf of Mexico 4 Million Gallons Threatens Beaches Controlled Burn
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MrChrisMcPhail2 - May 24, 2010 - NOTE: HALLIBURTON HAS PURCHASED BOOTS & COOTS...(they clean up oil spills).........1 week before any of this happened, Halliburton also was working on the oil rig 24 hours before the accident happened!
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If I missed it somewhere or these needs to be a seperate thread please moderat. feel free to move this. But one troublesome question I have, besides the obvious sea food price hike, what other goods that are imported should we be expect to see rise ? Trying to remember back to Katrina and I was thinking that back then bananas, coffee and gas went up. ( I stocked up on coffee then) I know there is talk of a gas tax increase as posted on thedrudgereport.com
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hi HoosierMom...
Here is some info on gas tax.. and a bit on food prices-
Seafood prices begin to rise | New Orleans News, Local News ...May 12, 2010 ... Seafood imports are technically an option, but not one locals want to ... You could not GIVE ME free seafood at this point no way will I be ...
www.wwltv.com/.../Seafood-Prices-use-10pm-video-93647519.html - Cached Oil spill expected to hurt area seafood supply | Gainesville.comMay 3, 2010 ... But prices of imports could rise with demand, too, ... "prices for all other seafood will go considerably higher," Richardson said. ...
www.gainesville.com/article/20100503/ARTICLES/100509845 Food Prices Will Rise → Washington's BlogMay 3, 2010 ... Food Prices Will Rise. I have repeatedly argued that - even if deflation ... Prices of seafood, meat and dairy goods also rose. ... for a period of time — we saw some prices go up for food and other goods because they ... Recently efforts have been made to import panthers from away just to broaden ... www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com/.../food-prices-will-rise.html - Cached
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Thanks. Glad the garden is in at least !
And I have been wanting to buy a larger vehicle, was waiting til Sept. when new models come out for savings on 2010 models.... maybe I can squeeze the kids into my fuel efficient car another year and see what happens, may regret my upgrade at the pump, lol.
And will defin buy my honey locally, with out corn syrup fed bees that is crazy !
Again thanks for the articles. Here I go again time to re-prep !
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I didn't know they did that ( corn syrup ) with bees...awful. We are lucky no problem with our bees here. We get the B W candles very reasonable also at the local festivals. We will need a new car in 2013/14 ... wonder what will be out there then. We always have a ton of rice. I don't see a seafood shortage here. Most of our seafood comes from Alaska and
overseas. I'm thinking people will rush out and that may give us the look of a shortage, and folks buying in the gulf region will have to find new sources and that may put the price up. We eat very little shrimp, much of it is farmed? wow...garden in. Ours goes in today
so I'm up early. Bought broccoli plants this year... nice to hear from you. M.
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Most of the discussion I've seen in the media is too simplistic to give me much understanding of what BP is trying to do to remedy the problem. But the following is one of the best descriptions that I have found.
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So did the top kill (Or whatever it's called) work today?
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Hi Turbo! Say look at this site they have a BP live feed showing the oil flowing out with a counter.
http://jalopnik.com/5548376/will-bps-top-kill-process-work Not a pretty sight! They will not know right away if the mud will work in fact it mud could make it worse! Man we are going to 2012 with break neck speed! Go over to the 2012 site and read what Rickster has posted that will make you think. Good to hear from you! 
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Matt Simmons: "Theres another leak, much bigger, 5 to 6 miles away".www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGAoU1H2gM&feature=player_embedded
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After another failure, BP scrambles to stem leak
By BEN NUCKOLS, Associated Press Writer Ben Nuckols, Associated Press Writer
ROBERT, La. With BP declaring failure in its latest attempt to plug the uncontrolled gusher feeding the worst oil spill in U.S. history, the company is turning to yet another mix of risky undersea robot maneuvers and longshot odds to keep crude from flowing into the Gulf. Six weeks after the catastrophe began, oil giant BP PLC is still casting about for at least a temporary fix to the spewing well underneath the Gulf of Mexico that's fouling beaches, wildlife and marshland. The relief wells currently being drilled which are supposed to be a better long-term solution won't be done for at least two months. That would be in the middle of the Atlantic hurricane season, which begins Tuesday. The crude likely won't affect the formation of storms, but the cyclones could push the oil deeper into coastal marshes and estuaries and turn the oil into a crashing black surf. BP said Saturday that the procedure known as the "top kill" failed after engineers tried for three days to overwhelm the crippled well with heavy drilling mud and junk 5,000 feet underwater. Robert Dudley, BP's managing director, said on "Fox News Sunday" that company officials were disappointed that they "failed to wrestle this beast to the ground." But skepticism is growing that BP can solve the crisis. Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., who leads a congressional committee investigating the disaster, told CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday that he had "no confidence whatsoever in BP." "So I don't think that people should really believe what BP is saying in terms of the likelihood of anything that they're doing is going to turn out as they're predicting," he said. Now, BP hopes to saw through a pipe leading out from the well and cap it with a funnel-like device using the same remotely guided undersea robots that have failed in other tries to stop the gusher. Even that effort won't end the disaster � BP officials have only pledged it will capture a majority of the oil. None of the remaining options would stop the flow entirely or capture all the crude before it reaches the Gulf's waters. Engineers will use remotely guided undersea robots to try to lower a cap onto the leak after cutting off part of a busted pipe leading out from the well. The funnel-like device is similar to a huge containment box that failed before when it became clogged with icelike slush. Dudley said officials learned a lot from that failure and will pump warm water through the pipes to prevent the ice problems.
The spill is the worst in U.S. history � exceeding even the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster � and has dumped between 18 million and 40 million gallons into the Gulf, according to government estimates. The leak began after the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig exploded in April, killing 11 people. "This scares everybody, the fact that we can't make this well stop flowing, the fact that we haven't succeeded so far," BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said Saturday. "Many of the things we're trying have been done on the surface before, but have never been tried at 5,000 feet." He said cutting off the damaged riser isn't expected to cause the flow rate of leaking oil to increase significantly. Experts have said that a bend in the damaged riser likely was restricting the flow of oil somewhat, so slicing it off and installing a new containment valve is risky. "If they can't get that valve on, things will get much worse," said Philip W. Johnson, an engineering professor at the University of Alabama. In the days after the spill, BP was unable to use robot submarines to close valves on the massive blowout preventer atop the damaged well, then two weeks later, ice-like crystals clogged a 100-ton box the company tried placing over the leak. Earlier this week, engineers removed a mile-long siphon tube after it sucked up a disappointing 900,000 gallons of oil from the gusher. Word that the top kill had failed hit hard in fishing communities along Louisiana's coast, where the impact has been underscored by oil-coated marshes and wildlife. The top official in coastal Plaquemines Parish said news of the top kill failure brought tears to his eyes. "They are going to destroy south Louisiana. We are dying a slow death here," said Billy Nungesser, the parish president. "We don't have time to wait while they try solutions. Hurricane season starts on Tuesday." |
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Federal Fisheries Closure and Other Information
Tuesday, June 1, 2010: An updated closure is effective beginning 6:00 p.m. Eastern Time (5:00 p.m. Central Time)
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Fears grow over oil spill's long-term effects on food chainTop US official describes the BP oil spill as 'one of the greatest environmental challenges of our time' Matthew Cardinale for IPS, part of the Guardian Environment Network  As oil continues gushing from the ocean floor into the Gulf of Mexico, with no sign of stopping until a new well is finished this August, scientists, environmentalists and local residents are beginning to reckon with the reality of a massive annihilation of sea creatures and wildlife. Dead animals are already washing up on shores. Birds have been found dying in pools of oil and dispersant, which have taken over their marshland habitats. Several species in the Gulf of Mexico are already endangered, including the Kemp's Ridley and Leatherback sea turtles, the Sperm Whale, and birds such as the Piping Plover and the Gulf Sturgeon, according to the Arizona-based Centre for Biological Diversity (CBD). As a result of the disaster, CBD has already petitioned the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to add the Bluefin Tuna to the endangered species list. Assistant Professor Michael Blum of Tulane University's Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology warns that some species may be at risk of extinction. "There are... hundreds of shorebirds and marine mammals that are acutely sensitive to oil. You could potentially lose whole species, have extinction events. Brown pelicans were just taken off the endangered species list. On this threshold, a big dieback and mortality event, they would be pushed back into a situation where they could be endangered," Blum said in an interview. "A lot of the species of most concern - sea turtles and dolphins - migrate, use our breeding grounds or they're a very important feeding ground," he explained. While there are no dolphin species whose populations exclusively migrate through the Gulf, Blum said those dolphins not impacted by the Gulf would be in such low numbers that they may not be able to reproduce at an adequate rate to avoid extinction. The EPA admits the impact of the oil spill - and the unprecedented use of toxic dispersants to break up the oil - on wildlife is unknown. "We're still deeply concerned about the things we don't know. The long-term effect on aquatic life is unknown," EPA Secretary Lisa Jackson said in a conference call with reporters this week. The agency says will require rigorous autopsies and necropsies to determine whether the animals are in fact dying because of the oil and no other reason. It says soil and air sampling do not show dangerous levels of contaminants so far. "They're saying it's really not clear - it's a safe thing to say. As a scientist, one doesn't want to overreach and reach erroneous conclusions," Blum said. However, he added, "from a real world perspective, going down, seeing what's happening and understanding the ecology of the system, we're facing immediate effects of exposure." "Certainly when oil washes up against the shoreline you have immediate toxic effects on almost anything. If you're a fish, you get oil on your gills and can't breathe. If you're a crab, same story. If you're a plant, you get suffocated, it reduces photosynthesis," he said. Jackson, who has toured the Gulf Coast twice since the disaster began, told reporters, "It's clear oil is piling up in marshes. It's quite a bit." She referred to the oil slick that has been reaching some shores and marshlands as "the goop". "We're sampling the goop. There's lots of speculation of what could be in this goop, we'll look for dispersant chemicals as well as what else might be in there," Jackson said. "BP has thrust upon us one of the greatest environmental challenges of our time." The Gulf marshlands are a breeding ground for many animals. Young shrimp, for example, mature in the marshlands, and then migrate to the ocean where they become food for fish. In three or four years, if there are no adult shrimp to migrate out, the entire food chain could be affected. "Really, there are cumulative effects over time. There's immediate shock to system, immediate toxicity and immediate mortality - birds, dolphins, marine mammals oiled. The mortality is relatively small in comparison to the potential effect that may accumulate over time. Things are not as bad now as they likely will become," Blum said. Watchdog groups complain that the drilling plans submitted by oil companies like BP to the U.S. government reveal a cavalier attitude towards the risk posed to animals in the Gulf. "One of the exploration plans I read said, if there is a spill, the wildlife can probably just navigate around it. So the burden is really on the wildlife," said Miyoko Saka****a, CBD Oceans Director. "Some animals have more keen sense and have stayed away. But there have been studies of sea turtles that go right through it," Saka****a said in an interview. "Even if they can avoid the spill while it's a plume in the water, that removes it from the habitat." The extent of the impact on Gulf Coast animals will depend on many factors, scientists say. It now looks like the spill will continue until August, although it is not clear whether the spill will continue at its current rate, or spew faster. It will also depend on whether BP or the U.S. government can keep the oil away from the coast, using techniques like "booming" - the placing of barriers in the water - or possibly using tankers to suck up the oily water, separate out the oil, and return the clean water into the ocean. Meanwhile, concerned citizens across the U.S. are taking matters into their own hands by sending absorbent materials like human hair and nylon stockings for use in soaking up the oil. Justin Fredericksen, a hair stylist at Mint Salon in Atlanta, got tired of feeling depressed about the disaster and decided to do something: last weekend, he organised local hairdressers to offer free cuts for customers who donate their hair to the cause. Despite the relief efforts, if a hurricane were to hit the Gulf this storm season - which is predicted to be very active - it would bring much of the oil onto the shore. Blum says it's easier to separate oil from water than it is to separate oil from the marshlands, which he described as a "sponge". Locals worry a hurricane this season could be the nail in the coffin for marshlands already teetering on the brink of destruction. |
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BP cuts pipe, plans to lower cap over Gulf spill
METAIRIE, La. BP sliced off a pipe with giant shears Thursday in the latest bid to curtail the worst spill in U.S. history, but the cut was jagged and placing a cap over the gusher will now be more challenging.
BP turned to the shears after a diamond-tipped saw became stuck in the pipe halfway through the job, yet another frustrating delay in the six-week-old Gulf of Mexico spill. The cap will be lowered and sealed over the leak, said Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government's point man for the disaster. It won't be known how much oil BP can siphon to a tanker on the surface until the cap is fitted, but the irregular cut means it won't fit as snugly as officials hoped. "We'll have to see when we get the containment cap on it just how effective it is," Allen said. "It will be a test and adapt phase as we move ahead, but it's a significant step forward." Even if it works, BP engineers expect oil to continue leaking into the ocean. Entire Story |
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SOOOOOOO Now I hear Tony Hayward sold over a million worth of his stock in BP weeks before this spill occurred paying off the family mansion ( but that was only a 1/3 of his stock holdings in the company) , either he was privy to something before hand that was going to happen by the hands of someone else or a player in the "accident" Hmmmm I am no conspiracy theorist but " THings that make ya go hmmmmmm!?" Remember Martha went to jail for the same. |
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Could have just been a coincidence. He could have been jumpy about the stock market.
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Should BP subsidize our seafood Now? Do we still talk about Haiti does Haitians help us with our disaster? No
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I'm not sure where the gulf sea food goes... all I see here is seafood, mainly farmed from Asia... and some wild caught from Alaska. We won't eat farmed seafood.
I'm not thinking BP will go bankrupt... they are heavily insured and there may be a cap on suits. BP said they can handle a 6 billion charge for this and some estimates are in the realm of 3- billion.
They can keep it in the courts for 10 yrs... or more.
Supreme Court has put limits on punitive damages against corps...
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BP Blocking Media Access? New Orleans interview.
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Between 20,000 and 30,000 gallons of Oil Spills into Utah Water Ways soaking birds and killing fish.
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." G Orwell
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Elver wrote:
Bob O’Dowd is a former U.S. Marine with thirty years of experience on the east coast as an auditor, accountant, and financial manager with the Federal government. Half of that time was spent with the Defense Logistics Agency in Philadelphia. Originally from Pennsylvania, he enlisted in the Marine Corps at age 19, served in the 1st, 3rd, and 4th Marine Aircraft Wings in 52 months of active duty in the 1960s. A graduate of Temple University, Bob has been married to Grace for 31 years. He is the father of two adult children and the grandfather of two boys. Bob has a blog site on former MCAS El Toro at 
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