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On Becoming a Laughingstock

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Originally posted by Thordawggy Thordawggy wrote:

I don't talk either.  I made ONE comment to a guy at work.  He said that he watched the news an we have about as much of a chance of getting the B-Flu as winning the Lottery.  What does one say to that?  Nothing.
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Have you won the lottery? Do you have bird flu yet?
Trust in the good lord and all will be saved.
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Man, it makes you think. If you want to be prepared for the pandemic people think you're stupid or a sheep or whatever. These are dangerous times on this planet.
 
We should all act as we see fit. The whole bird flu pandemic wouldn't be on the TV and papers if it wasn't totally real. These experts aren't lying, you can tell.
 
I buy every newspaper and watch Fox news to stay ahead. I don't want to be a victim!!!!!
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I was visiting my sister and family and of course Im trying to tell my thick headed brother-in-law, (who thinks he's a walking encyclopedia) about preparing for the bird flu and he laughed a me...Then he asked me where am I getting my information..I said the government.  I told him about the Formans as well.  He was silent and I gave him the sites that were set up to help inform and prepare for the bird flu.  So he pulled up the site on the computer  I gave him. When he saw how long the articles were he said "yeah right". 
 
What a idiot. Angry
 
I did buy some food we're not all that crazy about...I'm going to share that with him...
 
They have two kids you would think my sister would think for herself and plan.  She doesnt do anything without her husband premission or exceptance.  Confused
 
This morning I sent him a small article...Told him it had small words and he should read it for the sake of my neice and nephew.
 
I'm basically telling friends and neighbors about the sites and some information and asking them to a least read the information and make an informed decision of weather they want to prepare our not...
 
It's hard telling people about this not knowing that it will actually happen.
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I'm definitely not telling co-workers about BF and stockpiliing.  However, I have told my family.  We live many miles from town so they think I'm stockpiling in the event of a blizzard or something.  In the event that a pandemic or other crisis happens, I'm nervous about others knowing we are stockpiling and having to defend our stock.
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I am not bashful or shy, but my wife and teenage kids have asked me to shut up around non-family members except under 2 conditions:
   
    1. I am specifically asked, or
    2. We have body bags from Pandemic victims in the US.
 
Otherwise, they view preparation as a harmeless hobby. The cost is not really a factor. We have always been over prepared due to the large number of hurricanes in Florida.Much better than a midlife crisis, and keeps me occupied.
 
Surprisingly, I am now getting asked A LOT- in private.
 
I prepare a 1 page e-mail summary each week for non-preppers.
 
Otherwise, I shut up to avoid embarassment to the family.
He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.Proverbs 13:20, The Bible
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It seems to me to be a very slooooooooww process. My husband and sister-in-law have gone from "here we go again" "Y2K all over again" to an acceptance of prepping for food at least. Lynn has an almost ideal set-up at her home, but hubby is still not on board with needing to get fuel and things like like. Can't get it thru his thick head, that if power fails I won't be able to cook!!!!!!!!! Those kinds of preps and PPE especially I'm doing on the QT. The rest of the family thinks quite clearly that I'm completely of my rocker. MY daughter-in-law has an eight month old son and she is the one who is most hostile!!!! BReaks my heart.
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Up until last year I was always the crazy one prepping for hurricanes.  I would get all supplies before the season started and well in advance of an actual storm threat I would stock up on gasoline, perishable food, Ice, water, etc.  After Katrina struck and we could not get gas,store shelves were bare, and power was out for several days I wasn't crazy anymore.  I am prepping for pandemic right along with my hurricane supplies and other than a few rolled eyes from my family they do not consider me obsessed anymore.  I think Katrina showed them exactly how fragile our just in time economy really is.
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My husband has tried to talk to some of the people he works with about pandemic flu and the need to prep in case H5N1 goes H2H. He said most are not taking it seriously and don't think anything is going to happen. Many of these people have family living in places like Vietnam and other places in SE Asia they have recently visited and plan to continue visiting. He is very afraid that one of them will return from such a trip infected and be able to spread it to others and that he will unknowingly bring it home to our family. Nobody in his company from the bottom to the top is taking the threat seriously. He is so frustrated he has quit trying to talk to anyone about prepping for pandemic flu for fear that if it does happen they will be here knocking on our door looking for food. My fear is he will wind up quarantined at work an hour away from home with these ignorant idiots.
I have had similar experiences with our friends. They just don't see the threat and so are not prepping. I decided some time ago to just not mention it unless they do, no point wasting my breath. I am however sharing recipes with friends that I have compiled from websites and from my own experience and sharing those with them, they are all preps recipes that they will at least be able to make use of if they even stock just some basic kitchen staples. I think one at least is beginning to get what I am doing and considering prepping. I hope so. Sometimes the subtle approach works best.
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Please, make sure he has a bag of supplies with him at all times! If he is not doing it already, it would be a good idea for him to start  using anti-bacterial gel and wipes and work (in his area of control) and have PPE ready.
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My sister openly laughs at me.

She used to work for Roche and jokes that it's a pity she quit.

She says I’m way too serious about it.

 

One friend says she thinks it's irresponsible of the media to scare people by mentioning it. Another friend says that she has her kids say a prayer every night for God to save them from the bird flu, but no prep, and the other, says "Oh I don't think that’s going to do much."

 

My husband complies with prep tasks to a point, gets irritated, and then settles down to working on the list again but he refuses to buy a wood stove and he is driving me nuts.

 

I just try to keep moving along and get more prepared each day.

“How now, Spirit! whither wander you?”
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Hang in there Spirit. It seems that most of us are laughed at or ridiculed by people we care about for bringing it up.   

I used to get angry abouit it, but now I just hope that they are right and I am wrong.

If it becomes reality, we won't be out there fighting crowds to pick up essential items and they'll wish they had listened to us.

If it doesn't happen, we'll save on grocery expenses while we gradually use up our preps. The non-food items will be good to have around for any emergency.

As a result of prepping, I've discovered ways to save money by purchasing larger bags and boxes of items and now have a vacuum sealer to insure they store well.

Much of the information I've gained from this experience and this forum will remain with me the rest of my life.

Most of us in this country are just very spoiled and accustomed to running to the store for every little thing. Our ancestors seldom went to town, but kept a pantry and several shelves filled with staples.

They might not have been able to whip up a gourmet meal on a moments notice, but they seldom went to bed hungry and always had food to put out when someone stopped over.

Even my husband was laughing when I started, but now he sometimes tries to nudge others into prepping too.
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My husband and I got the eye-rolls when we tried to warn people about Y2K, and boy did I feel stupid when nothing happened.  I could feel the "told ya so's" from everyone who knew I was prepping.  It's weird though, I have alway felt down in my bones that some day I would live through some horrible upheaval.  So here I go again.  I still have a lot of the Y2K preps, dried foods and such.  We still have our 1000 gal water tank, but I shudder to think what the water is like in there.  I have the Berkeley filters, solar chargers, hand grinder, propane tanks, wood stove and generator, but am sorely lacking in canned goods, paper goods and OTC meds.  I am not telling anyone this time about my preps unless they bring up the BF to me first.
 
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  TrailsEnd, I also prepped for Y2k,I even moved from Chicago, to Ms. to get out of the big city. We installed  a wood burning stove bought large amounts of food and had a well put in.  We spent quite a bit.  My husband laughed at me for a long time until Katrina hit.  Some of those same preps saved us from long long lines, we already had what we need including a generator and gas.  I have not regretted one penny we spent for Y2k or for the bird flu.  I just wish all those that could afford it would install a wood burning stove.  You will not be sorry you did. 
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Femvet, We are working on a backpack for him to keep in the trunk of the car with some personal supplies, changes of clothing, toiletries, masks, etc... just in case he does get stuck over there. I have to get him using the hand gel but I'm not certain he can carry it with him as he works in a dry room.
 
Question: What is PPE? I can't figure that one out.
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Originally posted by P_S_N P_S_N wrote:

Question: What is PPE? I can't figure that one out.
 
Personal Protection Equipment
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Oh! Got that Wink, just never heard it referred to that way.
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Originally posted by TrailsEnd TrailsEnd wrote:

.  We still have our 1000 gal water tank, but I shudder to think what the water is like in there.  I have the Berkeley filters, solar chargers, hand grinder, propane tanks, wood stove and generator, but am sorely lacking in canned goods, paper goods and OTC meds.  I am not telling anyone this time about my preps unless they bring up the BF to me first.
 
 
Trailsend,
 
I have a large storage tank also, and change out the water every 6 months.  For your size tank, add 16 oz of unflavored bleach when you fill it.  The water should be sweet and clear when you change it out next time.  I water the shrubs around the house with my old water so it does not go to waste.   Make sure  the tank is well sealed.
 
 
 
 
 
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April 11th and Im still looking like a nut job.  My husband although he is listening a little after months of me throwing out bits of pieces of info. at him still thinks Im crazy, but there are days he'll listen to me. 

He has agree to listen to the Dr. Michael Osterholm video that this forum provides.  If you haven't seen it you absolutley need too. 
 
Last night our Neighbors that just moved to florida came to pick up the rest of there things out of storage.  This first thing he said was they were going to buy a cow and chickens.  Dead  My husband looked at me like don't you start.
 
I had to say it...DONT BUY CHICKENS!  They live next to a canal.   I explain why and they laughed at me...
 
My sister has read and heard what Ive told her and she saids "(If I die I die)".
 
Im done telling anyone.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Don't worry about the chickens --if H5N1 mutates, people wont be getting sick from chickens, you will be getting sick from other people.
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I dont worry about what people think. There is enough in life we cant control to recieve advance warning of a potential life threatening problem and not plan ahead for the possability is foolish. I would not want to be in the position of watching a loved one die especially one of my grandchildren, knowing that I could of prevented it by a little advance planning.
 
If nothing happens the worst im out is some time, all the things Ive stocked up on are things i use anyway - with the exception of masks. I have saved many times over the cost of those masks by what i am saving at the store now. So how can preparing be concidered foolish?
 
Those who are laughing are the foolish ones. Reminds me of the ones who laughed at Noah.
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