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    Posted: July 23 2008 at 9:04pm
CNN stated today The Whitehouse said Russian missiles could return to cuba.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cuba_russia_2
 
Castro cryptic on Russian bomber report
 

By ANITA SNOW, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 14 minutes ago

HAVANA - Ailing Fidel Castro said Wednesday that Cuba's president was right to adopt a "dignified silence" over a Moscow newspaper report that Russia may send nuclear bombers to the island, and said Cuba doesn't owe any explanation to Washington about the story.

In a brief, cryptic essay posted on a government Web site Wednesday night, the 81-year-old former president neither confirmed nor denied the Monday report in Izvestia newspaper.

Moscow is angry about U.S. plans for missile-defense sites in eastern Europe and Izvestia cited a "highly placed" military aviation source as saying, "While they are deploying the anti-missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic, our long-range strategic aircraft already will be landing in Cuba." Izvestia said this apparently refers to long-range nuclear-capable bombers.

Izvestia points out that there would have to be a political decision on landing bombers in Cuba, and quoted the unnamed source as saying there have been such discussions.

In Washington, U.S. State Department Acting Deputy spokesman Gonzalo R. Gallegos said that American officials had received no official confirmation from the Russian government about the newspaper report, and was unaware of any U.S. efforts to directly contact Moscow about it.

"We continue to continue to work with the Russians on this issue," Gallegos said Tuesday, referring to talks aimed at explaining the U.S. government's missile defense plan. "We have consistently made it clear to them that our proposed deployment of a limited missile defense system in Europe poses no threat to them or to their nuclear deterrent."

While Fidel Castro said the president, his brother Raul Castro, was wise not to respond to the newspaper report, he did not make clear why he was commenting.

Fidel Castro also said Cuba is not obligated to offer the United States an explanation about the newspaper report, "nor ask for excuses or forgiveness."

Despite Cuba's one-time alliance with the former Soviet Union, it seems unlikely that Raul Castro would allow Russian bombers on the island and risk the ire of the U.S. government.

Raul Castro has been president only since February, securing a seamless transition from his brother, who ruled for nearly a half-century. He has repeatedly said he is willing to discuss the two countries' differences in talks held on equal terms with America's next president.

Soviet nuclear missiles stationed in Cuba during the height of the Cold War pushed the world to the brink of nuclear conflict on Oct. 22, 1962, after President John F. Kennedy announced their presence to the world. After a tense week of diplomacy, Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev removed them.

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http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/220933,now-russian-experts-recommend-activating-cuba-radar.html
 

Now Russian experts recommend activating Cuba radar

Moscow - Russian military experts are recommending reactivating a radar facility on Cuba in response to US plans for a missile defence shield based in the Czech Republic and Poland, it was reported in Moscow Wednesday. Alexander Pikayev of the Institute for World Economic Sciences was quoted by the RIA Novosti news agency as saying a facility closed down in 2001 in Lourdes, Cuba, could be put back into service.

The reported proposal follows a warning Tuesday by a top US Air Force general that the deployment of Russian bombers to Cuba would cross a "red line" and the United States should urge its former Cold War foe against taking the step.

Russian media had earlier reported the military was also weighing whether to reinstate a Cold War practice of resuming bomber flights to Cuba or deploying them there.

"We should engage the Russians not to pursue that approach. And if they did, I think, we should stand strong and indicate that that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States," General Norton Scwhartz, nominated by Bush to become the top Air Force officer, told a Senate committee.

"At the moment, there are just thoughts - but that doesn't mean there isn't something concrete behind it," an unnamed Russian officer had told Izvestiya newspaper at the beginning of the week.

The White House refused to directly comment on the report because the Russian government has not publicly stated its intentions. But spokesman Dana Perino reiterated the view that the stationing of missile defences in Poland and the Czech Republic does not threaten Russia.

The United States is working on agreements with the two countries to counter Iran's growing ballistic capability.

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They said some were pointing at Miami last year and they were not serious,I think it must be a hoax
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080724/wl_afp/usrussiacubamilitarynuclearcastro_080724064931
 
Fidel Castro says no excuses from Cuba on Russian bomber issue
 

by Carlos Batista Thu Jul 24, 2:49 AM ET

HAVANA (AFP) - Fidel Castro said Havana owed no apologies to Washington over reports that Russia might start flying long-range bombers to Cuba, and warned that his country "had nerves of steel in times of genocide".

It was the first official comment from the Americas' only one-party communist government since a US general responded to a report in a Russian newspaper, warning Russia against basing nuclear-capable bombers in Cuba.

"What we need are nerves of steel in times of genocide, and Cuba has them. The United States knows that," he wrote, in what appeared to be a reference to previous Cold War era confrontations between the two countries.

The flights, although they have not yet been officially announced by Moscow, have already sparked tensions reminiscent of the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 1960s.

The ailing Fidel Castro, 81, who in February handed over power to his 77-year-old brother Raul, made his comments in a letter to cubadebate.cu on Wednesday.

"Raul did just the right thing by maintaining appropriate silence on statements published Monday July 21 by Izvestia, related to potential installation of strategic Russian bomber bases in our country," he wrote.

Fidel Castro said the news arose from "hypotheses developed in Russia due to Yankee (US) stubbornness about the idea of setting up radar and a missile shield near the border of that great power."

US General Norton Schwartz, nominated to be the air force's chief of staff, said in Washington Tuesday that if Russia "did, I think we should stand strong and indicate that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America."

The elder Castro has been sidelined by a major intestinal illness two years ago and now spends a lot of his time writing political essays.

In his latest, headlined "Macciavelli's Strategy", he said that with the United States: "if you say yes, I'll kill you. If you say no, it doesn't matter, I'll kill you anyway. That is the Machiavellian strategy the United States uses with Cuba.

"We need not offer any explanations or excuses nor ask forgiveness," he wrote.

The newspaper Izvestia has reported that the Russian military is thinking of flying long-range bombers to Cuba on a regular basis, citing an unnamed senior Russian air force official, as saying such flights were under discussion.

The plan was in response to US plans to install missile defenses in eastern Europe, it reported.

But it was unclear whether they would involve permanent basing of nuclear bombers in Cuba, or just use of the island as a refueling stop.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/24/world/main4288940.shtml
 

Report: Russia May Send Nukes To Cuba

Castro Commends New Leader's Silence On Report, Says Cuba Owes Washington No Explanations

 

 
HAVANA, July 23, 2008
Russia may send nuclear bombers to the island, and said Cuba doesn't owe any explanation to Washington about the story.

In a brief, cryptic essay posted on a government Web site Wednesday night, the 81-year-old former president neither confirmed nor denied the Monday report in Izvestia newspaper.

Moscow is angry about U.S. plans for missile-defense sites in eastern Europe and Izvestia cited a "highly placed" military aviation source as saying, "While they are deploying the anti-missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic, our long-range strategic aircraft already will be landing in Cuba." Izvestia said this apparently refers to long-range nuclear-capable bombers.

Izvestia points out that there would have to be a political decision on landing bombers in Cuba, and quoted the unnamed source as saying there have been such discussions.

Former Russian Air Force Commander-in-Chief Anatoly Kornukov told Russia's Interfax news agency Thursday that the country's "strategic bombers are entitled to use airfields in any country, including Cuba, as long as its leaders do not object."

A well informed military-diplomatic official in Moscow told CBS News Thursday that Russian strategic bombers "could use an airfield in Cuba for refueling during flights for air patrol over the Atlantic." The source spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the topic.

Kornukov's statement was made in response to remarks earlier in the week by the nominee for U.S. Air Force chief of staff, Gen. Norton Schwartz, who said a move by Moscow to position nuclear weapons on the Caribbean Island would cross "a red line for the United States of America".

The London-based AFX news wire quoted Schwartz as saying: "If they did I think we should stand strong and indicate that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States."

"The statement by Gen. Schwartz cannot be called other than inadequate and childish," Kornukov said, according to Interfax, which, like all Russian media, is closely monitored by the Kremlin. "Gen. Schwartz, being a professional, must know that missile carriers have the right to fly over neutral waters in any part of the world, which, by the way, is what U.S. bombers are doing as well."

Strategic bombers are entitled to use airfields in any country, including Cuba, as long as its leaders do not object.

Anatoly Kornukov, Former Russian Air Force Commander-in-Chief, quoted by Interfax
In Washington, U.S. State Department Acting Deputy spokesman Gonzalo R. Gallegos said that American officials had received no official confirmation from the Russian government about the newspaper report, and was unaware of any U.S. efforts to directly contact Moscow about it.

"We continue to continue to work with the Russians on this issue," Gallegos said Tuesday, referring to talks aimed at explaining the U.S. government's missile defense plan. "We have consistently made it clear to them that our proposed deployment of a limited missile defense system in Europe poses no threat to them or to their nuclear deterrent."

According to CBS News Foreign Affairs Analyst Pamela Falk, Russia may be using the report as another way to show its opposition to a missile defense system close to its borders.

“Although plans to begin a second 'Cuban Missile Crisis' were dispelled at the State Department, it is perfectly plausible that Russia would leak a report of Russian bombers to Cuba, even if it denies it later, in order to make the point about how it sees the U.S. plans for a missile defense system in eastern Europe,” said Falk.

“The next steps will be closely watched, because technology has changed significantly since 1962 and Washington would not risk allowing such a plan to move forward.

"The report is an indication, however, of how much the U.S. missile defense proposal has soured U.S.-Russian relations," Falk added, "and Castro's comments are a reflection that if any crisis occurred, he is still on the scene to deal with it."

While Castro said the president, his brother Raul Castro, was wise not to respond to the newspaper report, he did not make clear why he was commenting.

Fidel Castro also said Cuba is not obligated to offer the United States an explanation about the newspaper report, "nor ask for excuses or forgiveness."

Despite Cuba's one-time alliance with the former Soviet Union, it seems unlikely that Raul Castro would allow Russian bombers on the island and risk the ire of the U.S. government.

Raul Castro has been president only since February, securing a seamless transition from his brother, who ruled for nearly a half-century. He has repeatedly said he is willing to discuss the two countries' differences in talks held on equal terms with America's next president.

Soviet nuclear missiles stationed in Cuba during the height of the Cold War pushed the world to the brink of nuclear conflict on Oct. 22, 1962, after President John F. Kennedy announced their presence to the world. After a tense week of diplomacy, Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev removed them.

 

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Chavez visiting Moscow to pursue weapons and energy deals/protection,Russia helping Iran with defence.Now this too.I dont want to be an alarmist but it makes you wonder exactly whats being staged againt the good ol Red,White,and Blue.
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With Cuba, I think Russia is saying one thing. USA stay out of our front yard and we will stay out of yours. As for Iran I think Russia, is worried about oil supply.
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Originally posted by TheWalkinDude TheWalkinDude wrote:

Chavez visiting Moscow to pursue weapons and energy deals/protection, Russia helping Iran with defence. Now this too. I don't want to be an alarmist but it makes you wonder exactly whats being staged against the good ol Red, White, and Blue.
Originally posted by Lone Wolf Lone Wolf wrote:

With Cuba, I think Russia is saying one thing. USA stay out of our front yard and we will stay out of yours. As for Iran I think Russia, is worried about oil supply.
Bird Flu is quickly falling on the back burner with the Iran Threat.
Our preps are looking to be maybe for a combat threat!
Is this what these articles are eluding to? Confused
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Annie, I didn't start prepping for bird flu alone, there are too many threats. I see the threats like a deck of cards, that has been shuffled and the treat of nukes or world war III has become the top card. Bird flu is the second card, but not forgotten. The cards could get shuffled again. But it is all prepping, and it only gives more importance to prepp.
 
With Russia supplying Syria, Hamas, and Iran, with their missiles and Cuba with their nukes. I believe Israel, Iraq and the US. had better circle their wagons.
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