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Whats this week going to bring? Does anyone have any idea?
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More of the same, i don't think anything earthshaking will happen.  No matter what  happens, if it is bad the Fed and it's friends will be well taken care of.  If the stock market looks like it is going to tank, you can bet lots of stocks will be purchased by the government to keep the stock market above 12,000.  Price of oil - who knows.  Most of us are unable to invest short or long to make a difference, so just stay out of the commodities.  This is not the time to be on margin.  Gold and silver, same thing, if you want to own it, now's a good time to buy, prices are low but the commodity can make and will continue to make large swings either direction.  Buy the real thing but don't have margin.  Financials my guess is we'll see more of the same, large wirte off's and the stock market going up instead of down each time.  Maybe citibank will write off the other 90 billion in bad loans they have, but probably not, just a little at a time.  Personally, i'm going to be on the side lines watching the action.
r we there yet?
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Buffet says were not at the bottom yet? Watch for slow downs and lows in the market this week. Unless oil prices drop sharply. The recession will start looking very serious. With oil prices rising this week????? Forget it get out of the market. 2000 will repeat itself all over again 10 times faster.
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Stocks heading down today..

Markets ยป
Updated: 10:50 am ET, June 02
-137.27
(-1.09%)
Dow 12,501.05
-26.93
(-1.07%)
Nasdaq 2,495.73
-12.77
(-0.91%)
S&P 1,387.61
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I think this week will be difficult for the stock market.
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Originally posted by waterboy waterboy wrote:

I think this week will be difficult for the stock market.
 
What do you think is going to happen?
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CRASH....
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From Reuters

Greenspan says U.S. economy on brink of recession

Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:10am EDT

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan warned on Tuesday the U.S. economy was "on the brink" of a recession.

He said via video link to an investment conference in Johannesburg the chances of that economy falling into recession were more than 50 percent and a rebound was unlikely.

Asked if the U.S. economy was in recession, Greenspan said: "We are on the brink". "A rebound at this stage is not something I think is in the immediate outlook," he added.


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CRASH.... ??? Probably not this week.

Something big would probably have to happen in order to make it crash. A major attack against Iran would probably cause it.
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U.S. consumer confidence plunges again

By Ruth Mantell
Last update: 10:00 a.m. EDT June 24, 2008

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. consumer confidence plunged in June to reach its fifth lowest reading ever, the Conference Board reported Tuesday, as expectations reached a record low.
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Faster Inflation May Unleash `Financial Tsunami':

By Mark Gilbert

June 24 (Bloomberg) -- Rising consumer prices will leave more U.S. consumers unable to pay their debts and may lead to a ``financial tsunami,'' according to Bennet Sedacca, president of money manager Atlantic Advisors LLC in Winter Park, Florida.

``Whether it is anecdotal or statistical evidence, I see inflation everywhere, and this is where the financial tsunami cometh,'' Sedacca wrote in a report published yesterday. ``A battered, over-indebted consumer, if forced to retrench, could create even more problems for the banking system as loan delinquencies would begin to rise even further. All sorts of delinquencies are rising. This is now a systemic issue.''

The four-part chart of the day shows how U.S. householders are struggling to pay their home loans. The top white chart shows the surge in delinquencies on all mortgages, while the yellow one measures foreclosures. The green chart tracks delinquencies on subprime adjustable-rate mortgages, and the purple one shows subprime mortgages that are 60 days behind on their payments.

Sedacca wrote that current financial-market conditions remind him of ``someone standing on a lonely beach, armed with only a small bucket, trying to stop a rare tsunami that hits the shores. It is how I feel about our markets and the tools being utilized by the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank and other regulatory bodies. They are overmatched for what they are facing and, worse yet, they helped create the mess in the first place by being far too easy with money and debt creation.''

To contact the reporter on this story: Mark Gilbert in London at magilbert@bloomberg.net
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Todays a bad day on Wall Street.
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Originally posted by waterboy waterboy wrote:

Todays a bad day on Wall Street.
 
- 200 + oil is up nearly $4.00 today
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Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. (and have a reliable source)
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Originally posted by H2HPrep H2HPrep wrote:

Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. (and have a reliable source)
 
Unfortunatly it's not that easy...... 
1. It takes a minimum of five years to get a well online and that is pushing it.
2. There is a serious equipment shortage. We are talking years worth of backorders.
3. Where are all the - trained - people going to come from to drill/operate these wells?
 
A great article in Time Mag....

"even if tomorrow we opened up every square mile of the outer Continental Shelf to offshore rigs, even if we drilled the entire state of Alaska and pulled new refineries out of thin air, the impact on gas prices would be minimal and delayed at best.....

The reason is simple: the U.S. has an estimated 3% of global petroleum reserves, but consumes 24% of the world's oil. Offshore territories and public lands like ANWR that don't allow drilling may contain up to 75 billion barrels of oil, according to the EIA. That may sound like a lot, but it's not enough to make a significant difference in a world where global oil demand is expected to rise 30% by 2030, to nearly 120 million barrels a day...."

Time.com

 
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The point is to become energy independent.
We are buying the life blood of our economy from a war zone,
owned by our enemies and then shipping it half way areound the world.
 
There is no one solution. It will take some conservation, drilling the OCS,
converting coal to gas, mine the shale in the Rockies, drill ANWR, add generators
to our existing dams, use wind generation, use tide generation, solar, more use of alternative energy cars and the entrepreneural genius that is the U.S.
 
No, it's not easy but what in real life is?
 
The Manhattan Project was completed in 5 years.
We developed a successful moon space craft in 9 years
using slide-rule technology.
There is a guy sitting at a monitor right now using a joy
stick to manipulate a robot to dig for water on MARS.
I think we can quickly get to the point to tell our enemies to
drink their oil and pound their sand.
 
 
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I read in newsweek yesterday that we should expect 7.00/gal by 2012 with a lot of fluctations in between.Right now the air is so bad in Calif. that they are reccomending no one be out in it for very long--which means no bike riding.
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Oil went up $5.00 per barrel in the last 24 hours.

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Ok so the logic is Fringe...just wait because it will take too long to drill for oil?

We don't drill now we will be in bigger trouble 10 years from now.

Americans never learn in the 1970 we had an oil embargo and Detroit made smaller cars for 5 years then went back to the big hummers, government gave credits for solar for a few years and then quit!

Well we are back to the 1970's again only dumber! Now our Congress will let foreign countries drill but not the USA!
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