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Online Discussion: Tracking new emerging diseases and the next pandemic

Pandemic Preparations

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Poll Question: What percent of people do you think are preparing or are prepared ?
Vote Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
50 [90.91%]
4 [7.27%]
1 [1.82%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]

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    Posted: January 28 2006 at 5:14pm
Most people who I have talked to outside of this forum seem very unconcerned with preparations for a possible pandemic. Just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience.    I am trying to buy extra supplies for family members or neighbor who I know have NOT stored any extra food or water. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of extra money so I can't buy them as much as I would like to, but I am doing as much as I can.  I am just worried that everyone will end up at my house if there is a pandemic becuase they haven't prepared at all.   Does anyone else worry about something like that happening? I have tried to discuss this issue with numerous people but they repeatedly tell me "dont' worry" or "there probably won't be b.f outbreak for years".  I can't force anyone to start making prepartions--  I  just try to keep them as informed as possible





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Our first unanimous poll!!!  MJ we are going to name you our honorary consensus builder!

Seriously though, we have batted this issue around for about 6 weeks.  It's a painful issue and one where we are going to have to make hard choices and draw firm lines.  Let's just keep hoping the day will never get here as we prepare for its arrival.  Schizophrenia at its finest.

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! Amen to that one !

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I told all of my friends at work, which is to say everyone (I work in an office of 8) about the bf several weeks ago.  No one seemed all that interested. 

The other day, I said something to one of my best friends about preparing and his comment was something like, "how can I forget, you wont stop reminding me of your conspiracy theories." 

Guaranteed he will be one of the first to ask to stay with us.

It's gonna suck telling him to reap what he's sown.

I'm not afraid, I'm paranoid. Dont talk too loud, they are listening.
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Ask him if he's got his spot on his roof picked out.  When he looks at you like you're smoking crack remind him of all the people in NO who had to sit on their roofs waiting for someone to come and rescue their stupid butts because they didn't have the sense to listen to the warnings that a category 5 hurricane was baring down on them and they had to leave for their own safety and well-being.

Boy, I get the run-on sentence award tonight!

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I have stopped mentioning it at work.  The usual responses are "I don't want to think about it" or "I have more in life to worry about than that".  So I have to be careful or I will get in trouble for being negative.  I then buy more masks and Sambucol.
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Unfortuantely, that is about the same response I get too.  And you are right, those are the first people who will be knocking at your door asking for help becuase they know you've prepared.

Maybe I should ask this:  Has anyone talked to someone who was initally not interested in preparing for a possible pandemic , but then later  changed their mind after you told them more info about the situaton?  How did you convince them that it IS important to be prepared for any kind of disaster or emergency?  The reason I ask this is becuase my sister has recently moved across the country and has no family out there. Other members of my family also live in different parts of the country , and i'm just not sure who these people would turn to (especially my sister since she is new to the area) if a pandemic occurred.  I can not seem to convince her or anyone else that it would be  a good idea to have some kind of plan and stock up on necessary food and supplies. They all seem to think they'll have plently of warning before a pandemic gets to the United States.  That's why I did the poll to see if anyone thinks that there are more people out there who are starting to make plans in case there is h2h transmission of bird flu. 
Any ideas??
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MJ,

Every day more people get on the band wagon.  Some of us Flubies have been watching almost since the beginning back in '97.  Others since SARS.  Still others since the beginning of '05.  Everyday there are people who stumble across something that makes them sit up and take notice. 

Just because a person is a DGI today doesn't mean that they will still be clueless a week from now. 

BTW: In answer to your question...I have convinced exactly ONE person in my two years.  Everyone has to just come to this issue on their own terms and in their own time. 

For those you care about just keep sending them information...one good article every day or two and hope that the light will dawn before it's too late.

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I managed to get several people to prepare for Y2K ..... back in 1999.
Luckily that turned out to be a blank, but it makes it extra difficult to convince people for BF.
I've been accused of crying wolf 'again'

So, succeses: zero
failures: a lot!

Marjo

BTW, I'm not telling people that I have stashed several month's worth of food, water and other things! That way I hopefully don't have them turning up on my doorstep when TSHTF....
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I suspect, that until there are bodies stacked up on the street corners ready for pickup, that most people will continue to think It can't happen here.

I've emailed my friends and family, preached to those that I could corner, and have even set up a blog site where they can get the latest news - with my analysis - on avian flu.  So far, my Dad and my Sister are the only ones even half-way listening.  They see the need to have ` a few weeks' worth of food stockpiled. 

Today, I found a comment on my blog site from an old family friend.  She's in her 70's, and at least did go to my site to read it.

Her comment?

Just dont be silly enough to let a duck cough on you.Thats my defence.

Keep laughing my dear.  And don't say I didn't at least try to warn you.



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Got one of my brothers worked up a few months back about BF, then his wife calmed him down. She said tamiflu too expensive. they just got back from a vacation. no $ for preps but can vacation in Gatlinburg.

My relatives know I'm preping while I'm down here in Lousiania till mid Feb. One brought me a couple of cases of MRE's left over from Katrina to take back to TN. Yet none of them are preping, even after Katrina.

My brother still scans the news and says keep him posted.

Now with all this cure talk spead by the government media to keep us calm, those who were on the fence will probably decide to go to Gatlinburg or Disneyland.

I have a deep understanding of people and intereaction of the human character and it's frailities. That's why i don't count on a cure reaching me. Besides I will not be put in a position to bow down to the distributiors.  If and when there is a cure I'll get it on my own terms.

Mostly now I keep my mouth shut about BF after mentioning it a couple of times to an individual.

Usually I say,"Have you heard about the BF in the news?" Nobody ever comes back with questions. Most know or have heard about it.

The only one I can talk to sparingly about BF is my mother in law in Tennessee.  They can and put back alot of food normally each summer. They are old timers. They grow a big garden every year and can mountains of stuff. The problem is they have about 5 grown kids and thier kids and great grand kids eating of their table.  The food won't last long.

I plan on feeding a few but it won't be glamorus. haqve extra rice,beans, corn and wheat.

What alarms me the most is that the government is putting the word out, the media is putting the word out in a limited fashion and literally endorsing people to prep.  Where are the empty shelves?

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I dont talk about B/F. Just bring up natural disasters and ask are you preping for a tornado, ice storm, or a power outtage?More people will prepare for this type of disaster since Katrina. IMHO a world wide pandemic is unthinkable to most . People still think of this as a Asian problem,or not on my side of the world disease...kind of like when AIDS was first discovered.
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I agree with AuntBones--I just don't talk about it anymore.  I've done a reasonably good job of preparing and have resigned myself to leaving everyone else out of it.  Even the local newspaper recently ran an article on the business repercussions should bird flu become a pandemic.  When I bring up that we should consider a pandemic plan, I am looked at with nervous glances of disdain or ridicule.  I'm even starting to doubt myself at times and wonder if I'm overreacting.
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Me too..I just stopped talking to people about it..I am sure I would have enough rice and flour to hand some out to a few..and where I live right now..all of my family is 500 miles away, so I think the chances of them showing up at my door during a pandemic would be zero to none..maybe my 21 year old, he knows I prep...
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Thank you all for your posts.  I've had about the same responses from people when I  bring up the idea of making plans in case of a pandemic. They usually say to me: "you are worrying too much---the B.F may never get here" or "I'll have plently of time to get to the grocery store as soon as the first case of B.F gets to the U.S.".   I have tried my best to warn friends and family. I think I will take the advice that many of you have posted: Stay informed and try to keep loved ones updated as much as possible. Maybe one day they will realize that it is impt and will start making preparation.

I've also made a few extra "boxes" of food to hand out in case neighbors show up at my door to borrow some food. I've put some bottled water, some cans of food, a few supplies in there to give out to them.  (I don't think that  my neighbors would actually want to stay with me-- I really think they'd all come buy to get some food to take back to their homes.) That way, I have the boxes ready so that I don't have to go digging through my stuff to find things to give out. (also, then they will be inside my house for as short a time as possible because I do think it's important to limit exposure from other people) I know that probably does sound paranoid or mean, but if I am going to isolate myself and my immediate family in my house for a while, I want to try to limit contact with others as much as possible to minimize spread of the flu.

Thanks again everyone for your great posts!!


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Got the water recipes/ingredients printed out, thanks! There is so much prep to do. Thank you all for the welcoming, helpful - perhaps lifesaving - forum.  
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I have also resigned myself to the fact that most of the people I have tried to talk to about this issue are not concerned.  I will no longer mention it but will continue my "prep" efforts.  My worry now is that all those individuals I have talked to will show up at my doorstep when it hits.  My wife has suggested that I hide the supplies even from her because she says she will not be able to turn someone away.
 
If you do just one little thing everyday it begins to add up.
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I have been interested in preparing for emergencies and disasters for over six years now, and I do not talk to anyone about the bird flu, unless they ask me a question. I learned from Y2K that people just will not listen. Most people have the mind-set that it will "never happen to me".
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I think it best not to tell anyone that you are preparing for anything. If something does happen, be it bird flu or a terror strike, They will be banging your door down for all your preperations. And they won't be nice about it. It's to dangerous. Why should you pay the price for there ignorants. God forbid your neighbor comes to your door with bird flu. They will take your stuff and leave you with bird flu. I don't have a gun, but I will be getting one real soon, and learn how to use it. I don't like guns, but I feel it nesassary. And I won't think twice about protecting my family from looters. Please keep your preps to yourself.

 

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