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What would happen after an EMP attack?

h ttp://forums.stardock.com/357651/page/5/#2283044

just a taste

“End of Week 1:

By now, most people in the subs have run out of food they would normally remotely consider eating. Looting at the local Walmart and grocery stores begins as people simply take what they need.

Remember, people aren’t hearing anything from the authorities. There are no working TVs. No working radios. The handful of police are walking in the subs.

If you live in the suburbs, take a close look around. How would the police reasonably patrol your city without cars?

Meanwhile, people in nursing homes have started dying enmasse. Without refrigeration drugs quickly go bad. Anyone requiring help breathing or anything else has already died.

People with type 1 diabetes are starting to see the writing on the wall.

Meanwhile, the first container ships of relief have reached San Francisco, Seattle, LA, San Diego, Houston, Miami, Boston, NY, Washington, Raleigh. Lots of food, medicine, some parts, lots of vehicles.

Unfortunately most of those cities are in utter pandemonium. In the south, tens of thousands have already died from heat. In 2003, when there was a heat wave in France, 14800 people died. They didn’t lose power, they just didn’t have air conditioning. In Florida, the death toll is skyrocketing quickly. Same in most of the other southern states.”


(great info arirish ,thanks)

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From Drudge Report:
Pentagon to spend nearly $1b shielding War Games mountain bunker from nuclear EMP attack but denies it is moving NORAD back in
Pentagon will spend $700million renovating the Cheyenne Mountain Complex, the former headquarters of NORAD
High tech communications being installed that are impervious to electromagnetic pulses
The bunker is build under 2,000 feet of the Rocky Mountains and is able to withstand a hit by a 30 megaton nuclear blast
Decommissioned ten years ago because 'Russians were no longer a threat'

Go to Drudge to read the whole article.


OK so we need to figure that the U.S. Government sees a problem with EMP! Guys we are in trouble if this really happens!
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Satori said "In the south, tens of thousands have already died from heat." Good point! I've only had central air once in my life. When the outside temp got above 90F I never went outside. We currently don't have a/c. When we built our current house we built amongst large oaks and set the house so that by opening windows the prevailing wind blows through. The outside walls are 2 x 6 construction so lots of insulation and the internal temp in the summer is always 10-15 degrees cooler than outside.
This summer turn your a/c's off and see how you do! Most people leave an air conditioned home, get in their air conditioned car and go to an air conditioned job. Most people today can't take 110F in the shade!
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the "Aurora test"


http://easyrider.easyrider.com/aurora_white_paper.htm

"What is the Aurora vulnerability?: Aurora is a vulnerablity to cyber attacks that could sabotage critical systems that provide electricity including the nationwide power grid."


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Another trick is to spray water on your body and let it evaporate. Just a plain old spray bottle. That will help keep you cool. Don't live in the south or southwest is the best bet.
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Congress has been warned about this for over a decade

and still NOTHING



Congress warned 'catastrophic danger' looming

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/congress-warned-catastrophic-danger-looming/?cat_orig=us

"A lack of will among politicians in Washington is the reason why there is no plan to secure America’s national grid system from an electromagnetic pulse that would threaten countless lives, according to testimony delivered to Congress Wednesday."


"WND has reported that a 303-page report by the Department of Homeland Security warns a massive EMP event could leave more than 130 million Americans without power for years, cutting off heat, communications, food deliveries and fuel."

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until fairly recently

EMP/solar flare blackout of the grid

has been in the confines of the tin foil hat crowd

now

it's all over the MSM


Sounding The Alarm On The Country's Vulnerability To An EMP


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-02/sounding-alarm-countrys-vulnerability-emp


suppose you walked in your front door

flipped the light switch for the living room

and

and

and

NOTHING


what would you do next?

how prepared are you and your family for such an event?


how would your community hold together before anarchy set in?


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First known hacker-caused power outage signals troubling escalation

ht tp://arstechnica.com/security/2016/01/first-known-hacker-caused-power-outage-signals-troubling-escalation/

""It's a milestone because we've definitely seen targeted destructive events against energy before—oil firms, for instance—but never the event which causes the blackout," John Hultquist, head of iSIGHT's cyber espionage intelligence practice, told Ars. "It's the major scenario we've all been concerned about for so long."

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Do want to support your thread here. I have been working on this for almost 10 years - in real life as well - and I was told 3 years ago we had 2 years until it would collapse just because of the traffic and with no attacks at all. It is a given that everyday people are trying to hack in to some of the stations and there have been some successes.

Fascinating thread and maybe I can include some of this in the book. Be well. Med
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First known hacker-caused power outage signals troubling escalation
Highly destructive malware creates "destructive events" at 3 Ukrainian substations.

Highly destructive malware that infected at least three regional power authorities in Ukraine led to a power failure that left hundreds of thousands of homes without electricity last week, researchers said.

The outage left about half of the homes in the Ivano-Frankivsk region of Ukraine without electricity, Ukrainian news service TSN reported in an article posted a day after the December 23 failure. The report went on to say that the outage was the result of malware that disconnected electrical substations. On Monday, researchers from security firm iSIGHT Partners said they had obtained samples of the malicious code that infected at least three regional operators. They said the malware led to "destructive events" that in turn caused the blackout. If confirmed it would be the first known instance of someone using malware to generate a power outage.

"It's a milestone because we've definitely seen targeted destructive events against energy before—oil firms, for instance—but never the event which causes the blackout," John Hultquist, head of iSIGHT's cyber espionage intelligence practice, told Ars. "It's the major scenario we've all been concerned about for so long."


Refurbished BlackEnergy does Windows and Linux—even Cisco routers.
Researchers from antivirus provider ESET have confirmed that multiple Ukrainian power authorities were infected by "BlackEnergy," a package discovered in 2007 that was updated two years ago to include a host of new functions, including the ability to render infected computers unbootable. More recently, ESET found, the malware was updated again to add a component dubbed KillDisk, which destroys critical parts of a computer hard drive and also appears to have functions that sabotage industrial control systems. The latest BlackEnergy also includes a backdoored secure shell (SSH) utility that gives attackers permanent access to infected computers.

“Perfectly capable”

Until now, BlackEnergy has mainly been used to conduct espionage on targets in news organizations, power companies, and other industrial groups. While ESET stopped short of saying the BlackEnergy infections hitting the power companies were responsible for last week's outage, the company left little doubt that one or more of the BlackEnergy components had that capability. In a blog post published Monday, ESET researchers wrote:

    Our analysis of the destructive KillDisk malware detected in several electricity distribution companies in Ukraine indicates that it is theoretically capable of shutting down critical systems. However, there is also another possible explanation. The BlackEnergy backdoor, as well as a recently discovered SSH backdoor, themselves provide attackers with remote access to infected systems. After having successfully infiltrated a critical system with either of these trojans, an attacker would, again theoretically, be perfectly capable of shutting it down. In such case, the planted KillDisk destructive trojan would act as a means of making recovery more difficult.

Over the past year, the group behind BlackEnergy has slowly ramped up its destructive abilities. Late last year, according to an advisory from Ukraine's Computer Emergency Response Team, the KillDisk module of BlackEnergy infected media organizations in that country and led to the permanent loss of video and other content. The KillDisk that hit the Ukrainian power companies contained similar functions but was programmed to delete a much narrower set of data, ESET reported. KillDisk had also been updated to sabotage two computer processes, including a remote management platform associated with the ELTIMA Serial to Ethernet Connectors used in industrial control systems.

In 2014, the group behind BlackEnergy, which iSIGHT has dubbed the Sandworm gang, targeted the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, Ukrainian and Polish government agencies, and a variety of sensitive European industries. iSIGHT researchers say the Sandworm gang has ties to Russia, although readers are cautioned on attributing hacking attacks to specific groups or governments.

According to ESET, the Ukrainian power authorities were infected using booby-trapped macro functions embedded in Microsoft Office documents. If true, it's distressing that industrial control systems used to supply power to millions of people could be infected using such a simple social-engineering ploy. It's also concerning that malware is now being used to create power failures that can have life-and-death consequences for large numbers of people.

Ukrainian authorities are investigating a suspected hacking attack on its power grid, the Reuters news service reported last week. ESET has additional technical details about the latests BlackEnergy package here.

While Saudi Arabia's largest gas producer was also infected by destructive malware in 2012, there's no confirmation it affected production. iSIGHT's report suggests a troubling escalation in malware-controlled conflict that has consequences for industrialized nations everywhere.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/01/first-known-hacker-caused-power-outage-signals-troubling-escalation/
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It looks to me that we really have to fear the squirrels!!

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Grid Attack: How America Could Go Dark

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/grid-attack-how-america-could-go-dark/ar-BBuiD8p?li=BBnb7Kz
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[QUOTE=FluMom]This was on 9 news written by Steve Reilly, USA Today:


Bracing for a big power grid attack: 'One is too many'

About once every four days, part of the nation's power grid — a system whose failure could leave millions in the dark — is struck by a cyber or physical attack, a USA TODAY analysis of federal energy records finds.

Although the repeated security breaches have never resulted in the type of cascading outage that swept across the Northeast in 2003, they have sharpened concerns about vulnerabilities in the electric system. A widespread outage lasting even a few days could disable devices ranging from ATMs to cellphones to traffic lights, and could threaten lives if heating, air conditioning and health care systems exhaust their backup power supplies.

comment: This is not new news. I was told by AEP and the powers that be 6 years ago we only had 2 years until a complete grid failure. A simple EMP burst over a particular spot from a low flying satellite could wipe out most the power ranging into 1/3 of Canada and Mexico.

Daily power stations - especially the computers that run them are attacked thousands of times a day and it is for certain - after an attack nearby me in Californa on the local grid, if they could have done this and we did not have the security in place, it would have happened.

The media and America is being subjected to a climate of pure fear which has been generated since 9/11 and especially bad as we near the elections.  We have a pair of really poor candidates and this provides are very good topic as the conventions draw near.

The terrorist threat is as much from our own covert and controlling groups. If the grid is taken down it very unlikely it will be done with explosives. Extremely good hackers - not bombers would be far more effective putting a worm or virus into the systems running grid.

If you will read my lights out chapter which I wrote 6 years ago and has been ignored it is true we do not have the infrastructure or police force to deal with a power outage in any major city for more than 48 hours.

These attacks on the grid happen daily at most major power stations in the U.S.

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I personally met with the VP of the United States biggest power company AEP in Columbus, Ohio. We talked about this and how to prevent it. We still can if the U.S. will fund the synchro phaser power intiative and let us try. It is not a priority with the powers that be - and it is more likely to happen by the sheer volume of data going out than by any terrorist.

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