$1,000,000.00 REWARD PARALYZES VACCINE PROPONENTS!
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Topic: $1,000,000.00 REWARD PARALYZES VACCINE PROPONENTS!
Posted By: Guests
Subject: $1,000,000.00 REWARD PARALYZES VACCINE PROPONENTS!
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 5:11pm
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Posted By: mercurymom
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 5:53pm
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Thanks for the link! ------------- There is nothing to fear except the persistent refusal to find out the truth, the persistent refusal to analyze the causes of happenings. ~ Dorothy Thompson |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 5:58pm
Sure!
 It's high time someone took a stand for the mother's vilified for not vaccinating their children.
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mercurymom wrote:Posted By: Mary008
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 6:12pm
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BIONAID (tm) is a concentrated product with trace minerals (including trace silver
 ) covalently bonded in a trioxide particle - and it is the enourmous amount of the covalently-bonded, stablized oxygen that really does the work combined with the trace minerals......................................
Colloidal silver is a liquid suspension of microscopic particles of silver. A colloid is technically defined as particles which remain suspended without forming an ionic, or dissolved solution. The broader commercial definition of "colloidal silver" includes products that contain various concentrations of ionic silver, silver colloids, ionic silver compounds or silver proteins in purified water.
Currently, colloidal silver is marketed for internal and external use as an alternative medical remedy, though there is no scientific evidence of its effectiveness in vivo for any medical condition.[1] Excessive use can result in argyria, a form of silver toxicity. wikipedia
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 6:33pm
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Checking it out, Mary008, I've found that this technology is not really a colloid of silver, being under .005 microns. The "bionic" particle can hardly be detected its so small. It appears that NASA technology used in part of this technology creates a particle atomically that requires specialized equipment to detect its presence in the water. Normal assays only reveal the trace mineral of silver, and it's under 3ppm.
A trioxide (like hydrogen peroxide shrunk down and stabilized in sizes within the angstrom range), bonded to all the natural trace minerals is a main ingredient.
The water included in the process, having been tested by absorption testing, has been shown to penetrate cells faster than any water ever tested. This same water is also used in the ZeoHeal as well, I've found out after further reading.
They claim that it removes vaccine residues, among many other nasties!
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 6:53pm
You do know why martians are blue don't you? They protect themselves with Colloidal Silver. 
This guy turned permanently blue after using Colloidal silver... 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 7:04pm
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After looking at the inventor on the website, who's been using it for years, he doesn't look blue. From what I've studied on this technology, you cannot turn blue from using it. It's impossible.
The astronauts on the International Space Station haven't turned blue either, after using it for at least a decade.
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Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 7:26pm
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Aslander........
If this product is so good why is it not FDA approved?
What is your relationship to the company promoting it?
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 7:36pm
I was already tracking to see if this guy is just spamming his products. The Million Dollar Rewards phone number comes back with this info: LC Hale (706) 937-7379 Ringgold, GA 30736 Aslander just joined today and his Home town is Hargrave, GA His provided email address also links to endless posts about mining gold. I smell Spam!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 7:40pm
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Better question - Why hasn't the FDA registered for the reward?
Why don't you?
 What is your relationship to the FDA?
Q. - DOES NATURAL IMMUNIZATION REQUIRE FDA APPROVAL?
A. - NO.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 7:47pm
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I SMELL CENSORSHIP BECAUSE I LIVE IN GEORGIA. (BRILLIANT!)
I SMELL CENSORSHIP BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE ANYONE KNOWING ABOUT THIS. (OBVIOUS)
I SMELL VACCINE/DRUG PROMOTER SMOKE RISING. (AMUSING)
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 7:53pm
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Aslander is also hangedman123@gmail.com and a gold miner....
The $1,000,000 Reward is offered in Gold! These guys are the same person or neighbors using deception and spam to sell products. Go away spam artist! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:09pm
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Isn't talking about people like that against the user rules?
Stay on topic!
What attracted me to this subject, as a gold prospector, was the gold mapping services that the inventor has on another website! I followed links to here and there, and I found the interview on radio. I think it was quite brave of the man to put up the reward.
Then I found this forum and thoughth I could find out more. I find people like you everywhere on the net, and you never have much of anything to say good.
I feel that this discovery should be shared here. I've only done my homework for a good reason. I have family to protect. You seem to have a special interest in reaching for straws to find something wrong with me. You'd really be VERY amusing, but you seem to not have the best interests of the users here in trying to kill the messenger with lies.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:15pm
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:18pm
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I just found the address of the guy on his website:
Burk-Elder: Hale, Third
Post Office Box 999
Emigrant, Montana 59027
His phone is
How's the crow tasting?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:24pm
Does this look like a guy that needs to spam anyone on any website? Hardly!
Burk-Elder Hale, Third represents a collaboration of 5,000+ private scientists and researchers that are taking the latest understanding in quantum and hyper physics and developing the knowledge into useful and viable alternatives for sustainability of the environment and preservation of life for all life-forms. Much of the technology is drawn from the Ancient texts passed down for thousands of years to a select few who have been entrusted with the technology. The scope of the technological applications covers every conceivable area for sustainability of the environment and preservation of life for all life-forms but has focused mainly on water technology to produce the most hydrating water in the world. In 2005, while looking for the best product to carry on mountain guide trips Elder, a mountain guide, fortuitously met with a representative for a covalent-bonded oxygen-trace mineral product, a leading dietary supplement concentrate made with the covalent catalytic reactor similar to what NASA is using in the ISS in space. The covalent-bonded oxygen-trace mineral product has been developed, studied and tested over a 15 year period in major universities, laboratories and on human subjects worldwide. Soon afterwards, a company started bottling the covalent-bonded oxygen-trace mineral product for Elder under his own branding - BIONAID™ - for Range Guide Expeditions and Burk Hale, Incorporated. Elder wanted something to have in the wild to make wild-water safe to drink. Elder began experimenting to improve the covalent-bonded oxygen-trace mineral product. Later, he began coordinating tests using Dan Nelson's geometric laser to see the effects on BIONAID™. The results were most amazing after being subjected to the laser. In November of 2007, Elder sent a super-concentrated water substrate to be put through the covalent catalytic reactor. Upon being tested by Dan Nelson and Quantum Biochemist, Ralph Anderson, BIONAID™ was seen to be 100 times more potent and the entire solution, not just the Bionic particle, became monatomic in size. After negotiations between Burk Hale, Incorporated and their new associates Bion+ BIONAID™ AgH2O became the most advanced UPCOSH™ dietary supplement on the market. BIONAID™ is a concentrated product with trace minerals (including trace silver) covalently bonded in a trioxide particle - and it is the enourmous amount of the covalently-bonded, stablized oxygen that really does the work combined with the trace minerals. Elder and his associates donated $50,000.00 in product to Uganda for research and clinical testing in 2008 at the same time he was fimling a documentary in Montana called, "The Water and The Holographic Universe". The documentary is still in production and expected to be released this year. Elder is raising funds to donate BIONAID™ to disabled American Veterans through the American Veterans Association (Elder is the Founder and Director of the AVA), and with the assistance of Phoenix Voyage hopes to get BIONAID™ out to the masses, especially in Africa. He hopes to end fears of pandemics once and for all. In August of 2008, agitated by the continual peer pressure being exerted by the mainstream media parroting the disinformation propaganda of pharmaceutical companies and pro-vaccine proponents suppressing safe and effective supplements that support the immune system as natural immunizations, Elder offered a $1 million reward to challenge the pro-vaccine proponents who were mischaracterizing mothers who refused to vaccinate their children. The reward has been on the internet for almost a year through press releases, blogs, forums, and other media, yet vaccine and drug supporters have neglected to register for the $1 million reward being offered in raw gold. Now that WHO has issued the highest level alert for pandemic, Elder feels it is time that the people were told the truth about the covalent catalaytic reactor technology being used in space while BIONAID™ is totally censored by mainstream media. Elder is also the owner and developer of ZeoHeal™, the most advanced deep-tissue detoxifier which is safe and effective in removing vaccine toxins, heavy metals, flouride, Aspartame, parasites and also detox die-off from BIONAID™. |
Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:24pm
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Aslander, I asked several relevant questions. You didn't answer them, instead you asked your own questions. deflecting away from my legitimate questions. If you care to answer them, maybe we can have an intelligent conversation. |
Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:34pm
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Phonebook results for http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=706-937-7379&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 - 706-937-7379 LC Hale (706) 937-7379 Ringgold, GA 30736 Map 
BION+ - BIONAID AgH2O - U.S.A & International - 706-937-7379 Bion Plus Bionaid AgH2O™ - UPCOSH™ is a formulation containing a hydrogen- trioxide-silver monatomic particle in a monatomic water base that penetrates the ... www.bionaid.com/bionhome.htm You got caught spamming products that range in price from $33.00 to $3483.00. At least have the balls to admit your here to make money! People could die thinking your crap is working instead of getting treated professionally. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:35pm
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Oh, I answered them just fine. My level of intelligence does not require validation by answering questions that deflect from the import of the posts main point - a $1,000,000.00 by a man that wants to help the world, it appears, and who puts his money where his mouth is for the sake of others (the women abused by mischaracterization in the media) - so bravo to him.
I'm going to try out this stuff. Feel free to wait on FDA approval during the next ice age, rickster. For my family and I, I can think for myself on what I'm going to do about this mess that has been started with the WHO FLU, as he called it. That cracked me up.
Have fun everyone! It's late here and time to get some rest, and rest easy I will.
Nite all!
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Posted By: ME163
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:39pm
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Rick is right.
If the man won't answer legitimate questions then he is not serious.... I have some questions myself... 1. If you are serious about this, you will submit to FDA approval and Canadian approval too. 2. Why are you doing this here and not anywhere else.... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:44pm
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Ok! Now we see exactly where your interests are, rickster!!! "Professional" help is what you recommend! Poison those childfen, rickster! Shoot that poison in their arms at any risk, and forget the REWARD, Right?
YOU got caught, rickster!
I have no need to spam anything! I'm a rich prospecter! And I reckon that Mr. Hale - who has given away thousands of dollars of this stuff, doesn't need your money or mine.
Forget intelligent discussion with you!
I'm wasted enough time with you, but it was fun flushing you out of the FDA bushes!
.Ok....nite all....the smart ones here will figure it all out.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:50pm
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A million reasons, noted in the title of this post works for me!
Put yours on the table with the guy, and then we'll know you are serious. Listen, you guys are going to have to be a whole lot smarter if you think you can pin your nonsense on me. Do yourself a favor...give up, and get smarter. Professional drug pushers/spammers interested in ATTEMPTING to discredit alternatives never have impressed me.
...outta here!
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:53pm
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Aslander where is Hargrave, GA? It's listed as your hometown in your profile.... It's almost like it doesn't exist on any of the maps I have. Example: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Hargrave%2C+Georgia&aq=f&oq=&aqi= - Hargrave, GA Aslander Joined: Today Location: Hargrave, GA Online Status: Online Posts: 13 |
Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:54pm
Aslander,
You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm in Sydney Australia you attention-seeking troll, and have nothing to do with the FDA.
As a father of 3 small children I take offence at your comments. You are rude, arrogant and misinformed.
Consider yourself ignored.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 8:58pm
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Feeling sort of PARALYZED, technologist?
If you didn't get it earlier, I'm done talking to you, and not interested in being STALKED by you.
Nite all, really need to get some rest.
Love ya!
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 9:01pm
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Seriously,
I'm just making sure people don't gamble their families lives on VERY EXPENSIVE unproven products peddled by spammers. As for the FDA... Half the drugs they approve do more harm then good. |
Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 9:05pm
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Aslander: I'm sure you already figured this out. All of the posters on this board are all the same person and we all work for the FDA. Thousands of us!!!
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Posted By: TipKat
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 9:09pm
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Rickster this person sounds more like an ASS LANDER.... ;-) Pay no attention and she/he should fade into the internet sunset. :-)
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 9:14pm
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Since you "appear" to be caring for us soooo much....
Seriously, would anyone offer a million dollars for something that does not work? I called the man, rickster. I learned that the main ingredient is sold in clinics for $65 a bottle, and if IV'd, it's $100 an ounce. Figure it out. The guy has donated thousands of dollars of this stuff to Africa. Ghana has just approved it as the #1 supplement, he told me. He sells it wholsale to private members for $20 to $25 a bottle. Zeolite products, by the ounce, go for around $30-$50, and he sales an 8oz bottle of ZeoHeal for $25-$30.
Do your homework before you make false claims about it not being proven, and attempt to pigeon-hole people here as spammers because they do not fit into your views.
That's it! Nite all....
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Posted By: Wolfmanjack
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:02am
Aslander Go away  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 7:52am
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I'm not the paranoid person here. 2 or 3 people have been aggressively rude and myopic. You're lumping everyone into the same mindset, as if I think they are. That is what you are projecting. I don't think there is number of members here agreeing with you. 2 or 3 people out of the entire group certainly is not a consensus.
You cannot talk about the reward and its import, you can only harp on things that support your myopic point of view. I believe that there are probably some fine people on this forum, and you and maybe another, have elected yourselves to being some sort of screening authorities.
Look, I take no offense at your attempts to descredit or mischaracterize me, but I really have no more time for your nonsense.
This issue is not a matter to be joking about. I suggest that if you want to have any respect from your peers here, that if you really think that guy is full of it, STEP UP TO THE TABLE, and register for that $1,000,000.00 REWARD! Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke.
Have a great day!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 8:10am
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State your reason for trying to ostracize me with the silly graphics and comment. (Just for the amusement of it)
Oh, that's right - you don't have any reason based on anything being wrong with anything I've said, except maybe the challenge is too much to handle?
That's it, isn't it?
I see that you are in the moderator group. Well, if this is a prelude to censorship and bannishment, reap what you sow.
I hope that moderators here with a more professional attitude and sense of fairness will not allow your opinion to lord over us and to censor and bannish people that have only tried to share their knowledge of news that is important to everyone.
The personal attacks on me being allowed here do not speak well of your moderation, Wolfmanjack.
I've not attempted to promote or sell anything. I directed people to a radio broadcast about a guy offering a $1,000,000.00 reward to vaccine proponents that have failed to meet the challenge, and have had to beat off a couple of attackers. No big deal for me, but it is for this forum.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:52am
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I've found some more information on the internet regarding this technology:
United States of America (Press Release) June 13, 2009 -- A one million dollar reward has been offered to all vaccine and drug promoters challenging them to prove vaccines and drugs are more safe and effective than Uniform Picocsalar Oligodynamic Silver Hydrosol (UPCOSH). NASA technology has been utilized to create a new category of hydrosols called UPCOSH, and they have been proven effective against harmful viruses. Link - http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200906/1244881317.html - http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200906/1244881317.html
The National Academy Press provides a copy of the book, "Methods for Developing Spacecraft Water Exposure Guidelines (2000)"( http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=9892 - http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=9892 ). Ann on page 117 of that book it shows a graphic( http://books.nap.edu/openbook/0309071348/gifmid/117.gif - http://books.nap.edu/openbook/0309071348/gifmid/117.gif ) of the system used by NASA to recycle every bit of moisture on the International Space Station, including urine.( http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9892&page=117 - http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9892&page=117 ). This is notatated on the page as "FIGURE A-1 The Mir humidity condensate water-reclamation system, which is planned for the early phases of the International Space Station. On the ISS, this system will be located in the service module of the Russian segment." It noted on the page that "Biocidal silver (0.05-0.20 milligrams per liter [mg/L]) also is added here for microbial control."( http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9892&page=117 - http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9892&page=117 ).
It talks about a "Biocidal silver". This is what is also referred to as a silver hydrosol which is also published in the long-standing Townsend Report as a silver hydrosol that states, "A comprehensive study commissioned by NASA reported that, 'Three experiments were done with E. coli. The first two employed silver propionate (a silver salt). Cell populations were quite stable at room temperature in the absence of the added silver. The silver killed the cells. The process was not precisely exponential, but there was no indication that killing would not ultimately be complete. The extinction times (10-4 killing) might have ranged from < 2 hrs. to approximately 4 hrs. at 50 ppb of silver and from < 1 hr to approximately 2 hrs. at 250 ppb. Silver from the electrolytic ion generator was used in the third experiment, and the probable extinction times were approximately 4 hrs. and approximately 2 hrs. again at 50 and 250 ppb,
respectively.'( http://www.gordonresearch.com/Presentations/GRI_mar07/articles/promising_cure.html - http://www.gordonresearch.com/Presentations/GRI_mar07/articles/promising_cure.html )
This is further verified by the comments in the "Methods for Developing Spacecraft Water Exposure Guidelines (2000)"( http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=9892 - http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=9892 ) under "Filter-Reactor Catalytic Oxidation", and I quote, "The system for water recovery from humidity condensate has been upgraded for the International Space Station (ISS) and includes an assembly that will remove organic contaminants by catalytic oxidation in an air-liquid flow at ambient temperature and pressure upstream of the multifiltration bed. This should at least double the life of the multifiltration beds (Samsonov et al. 1997). The composition of the catalyst and the process is proprietary. In fact, this “filter reactor,” an ambient-temperature catalytic reactor (similar to the one used to create Bionaid), has been in operation aboard Mir since January 1998. In the service module design for the ISS, the system will have a condensate feed unit that will facilitate transfer of condensates collected from ISS modules (and stored in contingency water container bags) to the Russian condensate processor for water recovery."( http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9892&page=118 - http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9892&page=118 )
The Immunogenic Research Foundation( http://www.imref.org - http://www.imref.org ) also verifies the above by stating, "Comprehensive studies conducted by NASA (circa 1970) on a crude oligodynamic Ag+ hydrosol preparation offer a compelling argument that today’s highly advanced oligodynamic Ag+ hydrosols may be the solution to lessening the impact of viral plagues."( http://www.imref.org/articles/pdfs/Townsend_I.pdf - http://www.imref.org/articles/pdfs/Townsend_I.pdf )
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 11:05am
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Foiund a patent on a similar formulation, though it is not the superior NASA technology used in this technology offered in the $1M Reward:
U.S. patent #5676977
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:37pm
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I've dug up dozens of pages of spam in forums where Burk Elder Hale (the Creator of Bionaid) is also the spammer in this thread (Jesse Hargrave) AKA Aslander. Where he and Elder [They are the same person or are in the same family] were banned for spamming. He's trying to pedal his $12,000 a 55 gallon drum products. Note the town, exact Name and Date of Birth (off by a year)
Member: Aslander Joined: Yesterday at 4:59pm Real Name: Jesse Hargrave Gender: Male Date of Birth: 12 July 1956 Age: 52 Location: Hargrave, GA http://www.rangeguide.net/elder.htm - http://www.rangeguide.net/elder.htm QUOTE: "I was born to Burk-Elder: Hale, Second and Leona-Catherine: Mayes-Hale on October fourth, in the Year of Our Lord one-thousand-nine-hundred-fifty-five, in the city of Fort Oglethorpe, Georgia which was originally known as Hargrave, Georgia, named after my great-great-grand-father William: Hargrave. Both my parents are of Scottish descent, my mother being associated, as a Mayes, with Clan Donald USA, and also have MacDonalds on my fathers side and from the Ulster region of Scotland. My father is of Clan Hale, from the Edingurgh District of Scotland, and he led our Clan in Georgia as a Chief." -Snip- I've recently rekindled The Stone Kingdom to help communities share the best organic, natural foods and supplements, the latest technology for living water and water purification, alternative energy and other innovations. I'm the Director and Webmaster of Range Guide and Aetheric Energy. Most recently I developed Bionaid, a historic breakthrough believed to be the remedy for most ills." End Quote |
Posted By: Annie
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:58pm
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FYI
Burk-Elder: Hale, Third is the Founder of the American Sons and Daughters of Confederate Veterans.
The official start of the ASDCV was on March 8, 2007, at the 50th Anniversary Ceremony of the 1957 Georgia Memorial to Congress at Hargrave Cemetery in Hargrave, Georgia. At this event, the Jesse Hargrave Camp was established as the first camp of the American Confederate Sons & Daughters Of Confederate Veterans. ....
http://www.rangeguide.net/indexasdcv.htm - http://www.rangeguide.net/indexasdcv.htm ------------- Dense populations are going to be hit very hard by this pestiferousness little (flu virus) monster. "Technologist" Stock 3 months water, food, weapon/ammo, meds, supplies, and some money at home. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 2:44pm
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Please provide these pages where Mr. Hale has spammed forums. You provide no evidence of this, and are still in the personal attack mode.
You still have not addressed the $1,000,000.00 REWARD! THE TOPIC.
I checked Mr. Hale's website, and I saw no mention of $12,000 a barrel. I did speak with him and he said it was $10,000 per barrel.
I've also informed him about what is going on on this forum with certain people. I will keep him informed, as he states that he may do a press release on this forum should anything be said about him that is libelous or fearmongering.
FACT, I've not tried to sell anything here! I linked to a website about a radio broadcast. Since then it has been, aside from one or two positive comments. nothing but personal attacks and a witchhunt.
What is up with you people who are on the attack?
What is it that YOU want to hide?
Is this forum's existence soley for the purpose of instilling fear and promoting vaccines and drugs? That's a question, not a claim - based on the fact that certain people ,who I've noted on here, are obsessed with flu doom, and the same fearmongering being promoted by WHO and the mainstream media.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:08pm
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As a distant cousin of the Hales, Bennetts, Olsens, Hendricksons, Mayes, Heads, Swaffords, and countless other related families here in this country, I, Jesse Hargrave, am supposed to feel some sort of guilt for posting a link to a radio broadcast about Mr. Hale because we are remotely related? Not ever.
What is interesting is that many that have responded to this topic on this forum have been totally obsessed with a person that has mentioned someone else BUSTING vaccine/drug promoters, who use FEARMONGERING, more effectively than anyone I've ever seen. And, it appears that the atypical vaccine/drug/fearmongering types want to spew the usual HATE in a witchhunt aimed at me.
Are you real proud of your witchhunt?
If that is the best you can do, let the record show it here, and as for Mr. Hale, I'm going to tell him what's been going on here, and that NOT ONE PERSON AT AvianFluTalk, who have attempted to disparage he and I, want to talk about his $1million challenge, much less take him up on the challenge.
Unless someone has something positive to say, wants to take him up on his challenge, or wants to simply do the RIGHT THING on this thread, then it appears that it is futile to share anything positive and hopeful here, unless its the illusion of "professional help" by a doctor who is all too willing to stick a needle full of poison in a child's arm.
Annie, you have alot of time on your hands that would be better spent doing something positive instead of participating in a witchhunt. What are mothers to think of people who care so less of their children to such a degree that they fail so miserably at seeing the value of NASA science being applied to nutritional technology that antiquates vaccines that mame and kill their children?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:17pm
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About the real Mr. Hale that I've come to know:
Kindhearted, loving, charity of caring people speaks about who they really are.
http://www.bionaid.com/phoenixrising.htm - http://www.bionaid.com/phoenixrising.htm
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:25pm
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Bionade, AKA Jessie Hargrave, AKA Burk Elder Hale. That $1,000,000 offer is worthless just like your attempted identity twisting games. You're just here to make $$$. We already proved your behind and profiting from bionade. At least you're finally admitting that it's your family that's manufacturing and selling the item.
In every forum you get yourself banned. You usually start off by saying bionaid saved your life. You then call people stalkers and or part of an FDA master plan. Then you rant about how people must hate Disabled Veterans. Eventually you self destruct and get banned. Member pricing (w/ 4% non-PayPal discount): $12,000 55 gal Drum http://bionaid.net/bionproducts.htm - Link to $12,000 for a 55 Gal Drum http://romewired.com/forum5/1179-1.html - One of endless links to Bionade(AKA Jessie Hargrave, AKA Burk Elder Hale) being Banned in forums. |
Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:26pm
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I checked out the Bioaid website and found that to view testimonies about this product the reader has to agree to the following "User Rules".
It seems to me the owners of this web site are paronoid about people speaking negatively about their products. Read the highlighted rules. Remember these are the rules just to view their testimonies.
Also there are more disclaimers in these rules relating to the so-called benefits of these products. A lot of talk and no substantial evidence to show the product has any actual benefits.
User Rules
• User must be an adult supporter in good standing to use or view this website, order product or to attend seminars, receive special information, and invitations to events. The term "Network" includes Range Guide Network, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third, Burk Hale, Inc., and supporters of same with the exception of membership in the Range Guide Network.
Technologist is right ...... Asslander is a troll and nothing more than a snake-oil salesman doing the dirty work of a paranoid spammer
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:32pm
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Posting copywritten information here, rickster?! You are soooo busted.
I had no problem hitting the agree button, as I understand the pressure by the FDA and vaccine/drug companies, and how people like you can twist what is being said.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:37pm
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You have quite an imagination! You make up stories about being getting banned in all kinds of forums, as if YOU ARE THERE ON ALL THESE FORUMS STALKING AROUND, since you appear to have no life of your own or nothing positive to contribute to society.
I never said it was my family selling Bionaid. I have family all over the world! That's your best shot at avoiding taking the $1 million reward!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:41pm
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Oh...that's REAL "intelligent".
Check around before you made this post at other posts I've made here. Your lies are now exposed and, on top of it all, you deserve to be banned for violating Mr. Hale's copywrite, posting copywritten material on this website (It has been copied as evidence)!
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:52pm
Aslander I'll be glad to send a purge request to google for you for all of your websites. This will remove all of their Cached data from google and I'll make sure to include an exclusion filter on bionade.com, net, zeoheal and a few others. This will keep away any copy-write issues. You might loose a good deal of traffic but at least your information will be protected. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:12pm
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You'd have to contact Mr. Hale for authorization to do that. And if you proceed to do it anyway, you may cause a great deal of problems for this website and forum.
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Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:18pm
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Terms and conditions are not copyright you moron. Does typing in big fonts make you feel like a big man?
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/CriminalInvestigations/default.htm - http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/CriminalInvestigations/default.htm
I just filled out the form and will let them investigate the claims on your website.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:19pm
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Be aware that I have friends here, and everything is being witnessed regarding personal attackes and threats detrimental to Mr. Hale and myself. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:26pm
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Thanks for exposing your real motivations here, rickster! Be aware that ANYONE looking at the content requiring that people agree to view it has to agree with the terms, especially morons like you, and also the FDA. Mr Hale must have seen you coming, loser.
Large fonts are for those with reading impairments, loser.
I've found no drug claims on the website Mr. Hale has.
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Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:27pm
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The only one making personal attacks is you asslander.
You and your veiled threats don't scare me little man
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:28pm
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Aslander,
You were bragging at how rich Burk-Elder Hale is. Numerous times you have challenged me to the $1,000,000 offer. I think it's a fair question to ask how is he going to pay up on the $1,000,000.00 offer? He lives in a house that is valued at $114,000 http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/702-Woodgate-Rd-Ringgold-GA-30736/50501341_zpid/ - 702 Woodgate Rd, Ringgold, GA 30736 I take that back. The total assessed building and land value was $47,348 in 2008. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:36pm
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I have responded to your attacks, one after another, and have made no veiled threats as you have.
But...I'd imagine that Mr Hale, should you file a report with the FDA, will prosecute you for filing frivolous claims, as you will have exposed your real identity.
As it says on his website, that you have viewed under his terms, you will have to pay 150% of any costs he has to deal with in legal actions you may give rise too. Hope you are real rich, mr brilliant.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:40pm
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Hey, STALKER, Mr. Hale lives in Montana.
If you want to know how he will pay out, you'll have to register for the reward and find out! But we know you'll never be doing that, don't we!?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:44pm
| Any more threatening posts by those that have stalked and threatened me here will not be responded to from here on. Anyone else is welcome to reply and get a reply back. This thread has kept me busy because of stalkers and trolls on a witchhunt, and I will not participate in their idiocracy any longer. I'm suprised that moderators have allowed them to personally attack me as much as they have. |
Posted By: Sara123
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:51pm
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Are you paying for the medical research project to prove the claims for your product?
That would cost way more than the "reward" you are offering which explains why no one has taken you up on your silly "offer." |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 4:58pm
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Funny....wish it was my product!
You'll have to ask Mr. Hale.
And if you are so smart, "Sara", and you don't believe Mr. Hale, why not make a quick $1million and register for the REWARD?!
Its ok, you need not answer. We can imagine why you will not be taking him up on the reward.
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 5:05pm
Now I'm a Stalker like the other 100 people you called stalkers... LOL. I can see you!!! I get pay checks from more then 12 companies. Part of that is Skip Searching so you're not that far off. Ask Sanford "Spamford" Wallace. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford_Wallace - Spamford http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford_Wallace - He was the Spam King. Hence the name Spam. He sent billions of unwanted emails and faxes. I tracked that guy since 1996 resulting in numerous lawsuits. It cost him over $250 million dollars. |
Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 5:07pm
you are a madman
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 5:10pm
BIONAID™ USA & International Sales & Distribution: Burk-Elder: Hale, Third 702 Woodgate Road Ringgold Postal Code [30736] Georgia Consultation & Appointments: Call 406-595-2012 <--- his cell phone. 10am - 12pm & 3pm - 5pm MST Monday - Thursday |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 5:43pm
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From the websites: Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. Mr. Hale grew up in Georgia, but lives in Montana. He has distribution centers all over America and foreign countries.
Stalkers, take the challenge, or look lame!
There are only a few of you on here, and you just have a burr under your saddle about this technology, or just obsessed with Mr. Hale. Funny.
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Posted By: Technologist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 5:55pm
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Aslander,
This entire thread brought levity and humor to a concerned forum. Something this forum needed. So I thank you for that. If you stop talking about bionaid we might just find common interests and you might actually like being here. Take care... . |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 9:58pm
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It's been fun!
 I never intended to talk about Bionaid, I just wanted to talk about the reward and its potential to put a stop to the psychological conditioning from the mainstream media, WHO, CDC, and others to get us all buying into vaccines with the pandemic alert level scare tactic. Someone else brought that up before I did.
I think the NASA connection is very interesting as well. We should be informed better. There are lots of things out there we should be better informed about. I've learned alot here, and appreciate the concerns by people here who want to know more about what's really going on.
Nite...
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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 6:56am
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Wow.... Just wow. I've been watching this with interest for some time now. Looks like a country pounding on a spammer scheister!
Maybe, and this is a HUGE maybe Flatlander... oops! Asslander (God I just had a hilarous mental image!) Jesse. Anyway, maybe the people here *ARE* informed and extremely intelligent. It's why every time a snake oil salesman (You) comes onto this forum touting the unbelievable benefits of some chemical or doohicky they and their product are quickly exposed to be the frauds they are.
I remember a while back someone came in here touting the benefits of a box that had flourescent lights, that's right: Flourescent Lights, in it that was purported to not only purify the air, but just about cure baldness. By far the most prolific of the profiteering a-holes (You again) are touting and selling Colloidial Silver which has been outlawed and with good reason. It causes ARGYRIA! That problem alone is why its FDA backing was pulled.
Yes it is very true that it is antibiotic, I will agree with you that that much is true, however it's value is infintesimal in comparison to over the counter antibiotics like Neosporin. Tea is just as antibiotic as Collodial Silver! The moment anyone says they're taking this crap I want to beat them about the head and neck with a claw hammer! Oh, and I almost forgot!!! Collodial Silver is an ANTIBIOTIC. This will do less than nothing for you in regards to fighting off a flu, and may actually damage kidneys and the liver, both of which are there specifically as filters and fill up with this garbage at dangerous rates. I don't want to damage the very organs that are tasked with helping me fight off diseases. What are you quacks going to advocate next: Bloodletting?
Now we come to the end of our tour here ass lander (HAH! Mental picture all over again!!!) The crux of why nobody here is stupid enough to enter into your million dollar scam, particularly Sara. I'll say that it's probably because anyone with half a brain knows that what you're doing is little more than a phishing scam for personal information with which God only knows what you'd do. You're a criminal, and a snake oil salesman. I hope you're removed from this forum, just as you have from every single one of the rest you've touted your bullsheite on.
You'er getting owned by Technologist right now. I looked at his complaint. It'll be funny when some G-Men stop by your door for a litttle face to face.
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Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 7:06am
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I'm getting some complaints about aslander and I have not been following the posts. Anyone care to catch me up to speed on what's going on?
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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 7:14am
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He's someone that's been touting the scam of Collodial silver as a cure all. When anyone questions him he responds with, OMG YOU'RE "FLAMMING" ME!!!
It seems pretty par for the course with this guy.
He's been banned by literally hundreds of other survival related forums. Don't believe me? Do a Google Search for "Bionaid Banned" or follow the link that Techie posted. There was one thread where he had created ten or more accounts and was replying to himself as if they were customer testimonials while all only had one or two posts to the respective author.
He's also looking for personal information. If someone decides to try to scam people with Collodial Silver like this over years (I found posts dating back to 2003 that were his) identity theft isn't a big stretch...
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Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 7:46am
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Hello Aslander,
Any parting words?
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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 7:47am
Wanna look like this guy? Take this snake oil.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 11:27am
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Parting words, Albert?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 11:31am
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This entire thread has been saved and archived, webpage complete files.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 11:39am
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Turboguy, in your post, NUMBER 666, You falsely claim that the technology is "colloidal silver" instead of a monatomic oxygen/trace mineral solution that cannot remain in the body. I've not claimed that anyo!ne has flammed me, just called me names and attempted to offend me....but I'm not offended.
All these banned claims....what are you taling about? You are lying and providing no proof whatsoever regarding your frivolous claim.
I saw the SFA thing about banning Hale, and it was done by the request of a product competitor, Hale revealed. You have quite an imagination too.
TAKE THE REWARD CHALLENGE OR SIT DOWN.
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Posted By: Wolfmanjack
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 1:35pm
Hey  I do not normally respond to trolls like you in this manner but i thought i would give it a shot. 1. your Use of large fonts is annoyingly rude 2, Your tone in your posts in argumentative at the least is is designed to elicit negative responses. 3. I suspect you are from 4chan .. Or simply have no idea what it takes to become a member of a community. 4. It has been proven (At least to me and others here) That you have lied about who you are and what your motivation is to posting here in the first place. 5. Once you were confronted with the evidence you became more beligerant and acuse us of multiple things.. 6. Normally all these things can be ignored and usually are.. But you have taken upon yourself to represent a company selling something.. And frankly If i wanted to read spam or see adds for some companies products i would seek it out.. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT JUNK! Frankly.. you have no rights whatsoever on these forums, Your personal information is public knowledge and can be transmitted freely by anyone who wishes to. If you do not like this fact you can petition the governments of the world to change things.. Good luck there buddy. I usually take a back seat in little childish things like this.. But i call for this guy to be IP banned post haste. He has demonstrated a lack of any type of common sense and a total lack of respect for the comunity in general. |
Posted By: debracanice
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 1:55pm
| snake oil salesman nothing new |
Posted By: rickster58
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 1:56pm
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Wolfmanjack......... I couldn't have said it better
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Posted By: debracanice
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 1:58pm
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censorship is when he erases you , Its a forum thaT MEANS WE GET TO DISCUSS AND DISMISS YOUR SNAKE OIL
AND WHERE DO YOU GET OFF THINKING WE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY THIS SNAKE OIL
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Posted By: ME163
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 8:30pm
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As I told albert, in my petition to rid our site of Mr. Ass, I stated that I have no time for his mickey mouse antics. I call on all of us to ban Mr. ASS and rid our good forum of his slick oily ways...
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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 5:16am
OH NOES!!!!11!1one!
Make sure you list me in your lawsuit. When we get to the courtroom I'll arrest your ass and bring Federal charges against you for falsely representation and engaging in a phishing scam/identity theft across state lines, then I'll turn your ass over to the FDA. I'm sure Nasty Nate's got a special place picked out for you in the slammer doesn't he, Jesse. You'll be grabbinb a pocket before the end of twenty-four hours.
What are you going to do? Tell the government that you're trying to scam elderly people and the gullible out of their money, but everyone is standing up to you because they're not pathetically stupid? That's like a drug dealer calling the police because someone stole his stash of crack!
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Posted By: ME163
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 11:25am
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Mr. Ass could face criminal charges in Kansas for deception or theft by false pretenses where the victim is a disabled individual. It is a big deal in the state of Kansas to decieve a disabled individual.... I think Mr Ass is on his way to Lansing or leavenworth if he tries to bring charges against anyone here.
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Posted By: abcdefg
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 11:43pm
| AS I said before and will say again, this should put to end this guys sales. One ouf us could buy a little gizmo to make collidial sliver for sixty bucks and make a gallon for each member for the cost of distilled water. A gallon of medicine for about a buck and a half if you pay more then that you are nuts. They use this gizmo you can order I say that because too many companies sell them, and I wont promote one over the other. It is easier to make then mudpies, it takes zero science. Buy a gallon of distilled water and watch it go. And it does turn you blue if you use too much. I have the gizmo if you want to drop by my place with your gallon of distilled water you can use it for free. LOLOL |
Posted By: abcdefg
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 11:49pm
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Even cheaper then I said, make your own Gizmo and wella your in business. Here you go, he is out of business.
How to make your own Silver Colloid Generator.
While it has been discovered that 30 volts is the ideal for Silver Colloid production, 27 volts is very effective and happens to be the convenient result of wiring three 9-volt batteries together. Therefore, you'll need three 9-volt transistor radio batteries, three battery snap-on lead connectors, 2 insulated alligator clips, 1 "grain-of-wheat" 24 volt 40 mA sub miniature incandescent bulb, a foot of 3/32" heat-shrink insulation tubing, a foot of 2-conductor stranded insulated wire for clip-leads, a small box to put it all in, and 10" of pure silver wire (.999 fine). This should cost under $30.00 for everything. Assuming some skill with a soldering iron, you should spend about thirty minutes constructing the generator. Solder your three snap-on battery clips in series (red to black) to provide 27 volts. Connect a 24V incandescent lamp in series with either positive or negative output lead. Solder the red insulated alligator clip to the positive (anode) and the black insulated clip to the negative (cathode) 2-conductor lead wires. Insulation is shrunk over soldered connections using a heat gun or hair dryer. Cut your 10" of silver wire in half. Bend top ends of your two 5" silver electrode wires so they can clip over the top rim of a plastic or glass cup (not metal). About 4" of each wire should be submerged. WARNING! Use ONLY pure silver (.999 fine) electrodes. #14 gauge is the preferred thickness. Pure silver is sometimes available at electroplating supply companies. Or, inquire at a jewelry store specializing in silver about who their wholesale supplier is. Do not use sterling silver (.9275) since sterling contains copper and nickel. NICKEL CAN BE TOXIC. (With this in mind, you may want to have a chemical analysis (assay) of your purchased silver in addition to the written word of your supplier.) If the Silver Colloid is to be ingested or injected, be sure to use distilled water. Tap water is fine for other uses, such as for a topical spray or for plants. Also, before beginning to make your Colloidal Silver you will need to make a saline solution for enhancing conductivity. ************************************************** NOTE: Two points of interest since this file was posted; 1) DO NOT USE SALT - just use distilled water 2) An ingot of silver cut in half works better than wire ************************************************** Saline solution can be made by mixing six ounces of distilled water with one tea-spoon of sea salt in a separate container. Do not use common table salt as table salt has chemical additives. After stirring the salt solution, pour some of the water into an eye dropper bottle. Now you're ready to make Colloidal Silver. Pour eight ounces of water into your glass. Add 1 or 2 drops of saline solution (3 drops at the most; if you use too much salt, you'll be making silver chloride instead!) to distilled water and stir with a plastic/non-conductive utensil. Insert silver electrode wires. Placement of wires is not critical, but they must not be touching each other or the process will stop. (You cannot shock yourself in this process so do not be concerned.) Attach alligator clips to the ends of the silver electrode wires coming over the outside rim of the glass and you will see a grey mist inside the glass start to peel away from the positive polarity wire while bubbles of hydrogen rise from the other. Laboratory tests show that this method creates a silver colloid of approximately 1 ppm per minute of activation time. Since you are only taking microscopic particles from the silver wire, your silver wire may very well last for years. The brightness of the light bulb is related to the conductivity of the water. It is not necessarily a problem if the bulb is very dim or even remains dark as long as the process itself is occurring. (If the bulb is dark you can always consider adding one more drop of saline solution next time.) Do not add saline solution after process has begun. Of course, when batteries are old, the light will also become dimmer, signaling it's time for a change. Touch the two alligator clips together to test the brightness of the bulb as a battery check. A fresh set of three alkaline batteries should make several hundred thousand batches of concentrated Silver Colloid. Also, put a few drops of Silver Colloid in the saline solution to prevent fungus growth. When finished, detach alligator clips. Clean silver electrode wire after each use to remove dark oxide on the anode. Use a small piece of 1/4" thick nylon kitchen scouring pad to polish dried silver, then wipe with paper napkin to make ready for next use. Store your Colloidal Silver in dark, non-conductive (and if plastic, non-reactive) containers, like empty hydrogen peroxide bottles. Keep away from light as even room light will degrade colloids rapidly by turning solution grey or black just as exposure to light darkens the silver in camera film. Stir thoroughly or shake each time before using. Keep cool, but do not refrigerate |
Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 10:53am
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Nope. Not good for you.
Anyone that uses this crap needs a psychological evaluation.
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