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Topic: Our Greatest Enemy is Iran.
Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Subject: Our Greatest Enemy is Iran.
Date Posted: December 23 2011 at 1:30pm
The greatest enemy the Western World faces right now is Iran and their financial support, facilitation and promotion of international terrorism.

As I point out to everybody who will listen, the bin Ladin family cut off all financial support for Osama about the time he fled Sudan  (After Clinton made things too tight for the Radical Islamic gang in that country by using our missiles on their "milk formula factories".)  The bulk of organized support for Bin Ladin and the various branches of Radical Islam has come from Iranian oil money for the past 15 years.  That is right, almost all of those bombings world wide were funded in whole or part by Iran. 

We OWE them, BIG TIME!  It is time to settle accounts with those evil sons of bitches.


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Posted By: Elver
Date Posted: December 23 2011 at 7:40pm

Iran?

Listen to the first part of this:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/citizens-to-be-declared-enemy-under-femas-cog-plan-infowars-nightly-news.html -
http://www.prisonplanet.com/citizens-to-be-declared-enemy-under-femas-cog-plan-infowars-nightly-news.html


Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: December 24 2011 at 6:46pm
Ultra right wing nonsense is good for a laugh.  I smile at some of the stuff that I see on the Radical right boards.  Nobody in his right mind would ever take that sheeet seriously.

I knew Iran was our sworn enemy (They certainly have issued enough Fatwah's against us to qualify) when we had to try to free the Iranian Embassy hostages in 1980.  A bunch of fine young men that I knew died in that effort.  We knew what we were dealing with in Radical Islam as our enemy.  We knew that they had openly promised to kill every Christian and Jew in the world.  It is part of their prophecy that they have to kill us, totally, completely and without mercy.  When you have a religion and a radical religious government so crazy as to set off bombs to kill school children who were not Radical Islamic, you know that it  is  either them or us. You do not compromise as they see it as a sign of weakness and to them it means your false god is weaker than their Moon God.


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Posted By: mrmouse
Date Posted: December 25 2011 at 4:55pm
What Really Happed to the Shah of Iran
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/mar/1090.html - www.payvand.com/news/06/mar/1090.html


Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: December 25 2011 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:

The greatest enemy the Western World faces right now is Iran and their financial support, facilitation and promotion of international terrorism.

As I point out to everybody who will listen, the bin Ladin family cut off all financial support for Osama about the time he fled Sudan  (After Clinton made things too tight for the Radical Islamic gang in that country by using our missiles on their "milk formula factories".)  The bulk of organized support for Bin Ladin and the various branches of Radical Islam has come from Iranian oil money for the past 15 years.  That is right, almost all of those bombings world wide were funded in whole or part by Iran. 

We OWE them, BIG TIME!  It is time to settle accounts with those evil sons of bitches.


Sarcasm again? This post isn't very Liberal. (You're sounding like a certain Dick Cheney here)

I'd love to see some actual proof of what you're saying here, not that I don't agree with the fact that Iran is led by some genuine lunatics who are in desperate need of good dirtnaps.

I'd just like to see some proof. A link will do. I was of the notion that Iran and Al Qaeda weren't on speaking terms.


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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: December 25 2011 at 10:39pm
Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:

Ultra right wing nonsense is good for a laugh.  I smile at some of the stuff that I see on the Radical right boards.  Nobody in his right mind would ever take that sheeet seriously.


And this diatribe *DOESN'T* sound like "Ultra right wing nonsense?"

I must have missed something somewhere...

That said, both of the fringes are good for a belly laugh. I enjoy trolling Democraticunderground.com just as much as I do ARFcom. Democratic Underground was so much fun I've gotten laid quite a few times from that disaster of a site alone. The weirder the crap I posit there, the more I'm celebrated! Went to a DU meeting here in Minneapolis about a year or so ago and let me tell you, man to man, it was like hunting at the petting zoo. I even used the disillusioned military member fresh from a deployment bit on them! This one girl felt she had to comfort me in my time of need. I just kept talking about the Military Industrial Complex, George Bush and the Koch Brothers sending my friends to die in unnecessary wars, and it worked so well I figured I was doing something illegal or at least immoral! I might call her up tomorrow or the next day. I might even let her in that I'm actually a Libertarian! God that'll be a hoot!

Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:


I knew Iran was our sworn enemy (They certainly have issued enough Fatwah's against us to qualify) when we had to try to free the Iranian Embassy hostages in 1980.  A bunch of fine young men that I knew died in that effort.


I agree, they tell us and the world pretty regularly that they'd like to kill us. I did have a good laugh at someone that said that Ahmahdinejad (Or however he's spelling his name today) was simply misunderstood and he doesn't really mean all those nasty things he says...

Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:

We knew what we were dealing with in Radical Islam as our enemy. We knew that they had openly promised to kill every Christian and Jew in the world.


Well yeah. But that's not just the Iranians saying that drivel, and it's obviously not *ALL* Muslims that believe that. The Koran is pretty specific about what to do with people of other faiths though. It's no different than the Bible really if taken literally.

Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:


When you have a religion and a radical religious government so crazy as to set off bombs to kill school children who were not Radical Islamic, you know that it  is  either them or us. You do not compromise as they see it as a sign of weakness and to them it means your false god is weaker than their Moon God.


You forgot Planes, hotels, Russian schools, discos, restaurants, bus stops, recruitment centers, etc. I can't wait for Hezbollah to get their hands on some fissile material from Iran.

I find it funny that out of one side of your mouth/fingers you howl that you're a Left leaning Liberal, but then write something like this above. Makes me think you're trolling...


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Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 7:35am
Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:



You forgot Planes, hotels, Russian schools, discos, restaurants, bus stops, recruitment centers, etc. I can't wait for Hezbollah to get their hands on some fissile material from Iran.

I find it funny that out of one side of your mouth/fingers you howl that you're a Left leaning Liberal, but then write something like this above. Makes me think you're trolling...


Actually, Turbo, I have posted that I am an old fashioned Christian and am quite conservative. I have never posted that I was a "Left leaning Liberal."

I have never forgotten the Planes, hotels, Russian schools........  I have been all over that for years. I am an historian and have written to that issue on many occasions. Most Americans do not understand what is going on.

I have never once said that Radical Islam and mainstream Islam were the same. There are a lot of naive people who are confused on that issue. Mainstream Islamics are mainly people who have not read their religious books. Radical islamics are people who have, and they prophecy that they will kill all people of the other faiths. There is to be not one left alive so that they can issue in an era of global Islamic rule. According to their religious writings, any lie, any murder is permissible in the eyes of Allah to advance the worship of their Moon God.


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Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 8:10am
Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:



I'd love to see some actual proof of what you're saying here, not that I don't agree with the fact that Iran is led by some genuine lunatics who are in desperate need of good dirtnaps.

I'd just like to see some proof. A link will do. I was of the notion that Iran and Al Qaeda weren't on speaking terms.


Dirtnaps?  All of Radical Islam needs to take a dirtnap. Technically, Al Qaeda and Iran are opposites in that one is mainly Sunni and the other Sheite, but when it comes to their common goal of advancing Radical Islam and killing all infidels they are united when it comes to Radical Goals.  Iran supported the Taliban in Afghanistan even though the Taliban were harboring the leadership of Al Qaeda.  Radical Islam regardless of sect has always supported the killing of infidels. Oil money is there for that purpose.
A link?  There are thousands of them all equally bad and good.  There is a movie that is better than most of the links out there.  Here is a link to education at a price.
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/




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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:


I have never forgotten the Planes, hotels, Russian schools........  I have been all over that for years. I am an historian and have written to that issue on many occasions. Most Americans do not understand what is going on.


That is true. Stark raving and scarily true. Since you're an educated man, you've got to be SOMEWHAT to be an officer, though that's no indicator of intelligence as some of the by far stupidest people I've ever known are officers, you should go and take some college courses and experience the depth of lack of understanding that's taking place in our institutions of higher learning. It's genuinely frightening.

Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:


I have never once said that Radical Islam and mainstream Islam were the same. There are a lot of naive people who are confused on that issue. Mainstream Islamics are mainly people who have not read their religious books. Radical islamics are people who have, and they prophecy that they will kill all people of the other faiths. There is to be not one left alive so that they can issue in an era of global Islamic rule. According to their religious writings, any lie, any murder is permissible in the eyes of Allah to advance the worship of their Moon God.


Hmm.... I think what you're talking about is "Kaffur." AKA "Those who are not us." Technically any Muslim, not just the radicals, can lie, cheat, or even kill someone else that is Kaffur without penalty in the eyes of Mohammed/Allah.

If you want to be actually frightened, give the Koran a read sometime. Not only is the bit there about Kaffur, there is also talk of how little boys can be sexually exploited. The last part is repeated time and again. It's really disgusting, but hey, it's their holy text.


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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by Joe Neubarth Joe Neubarth wrote:

Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:



I'd love to see some actual proof of what you're saying here, not that I don't agree with the fact that Iran is led by some genuine lunatics who are in desperate need of good dirtnaps.

I'd just like to see some proof. A link will do. I was of the notion that Iran and Al Qaeda weren't on speaking terms.


Dirtnaps?  All of Radical Islam needs to take a dirtnap. Technically, Al Qaeda and Iran are opposites in that one is mainly Sunni and the other Sheite, but when it comes to their common goal of advancing Radical Islam and killing all infidels they are united when it comes to Radical Goals.  Iran supported the Taliban in Afghanistan even though the Taliban were harboring the leadership of Al Qaeda.  Radical Islam regardless of sect has always supported the killing of infidels. Oil money is there for that purpose.
A link?  There are thousands of them all equally bad and good.  There is a movie that is better than most of the links out there.  Here is a link to education at a price.
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/


Joe, that's what I call, "The enemy of my enemy isn't my friend, but we can work together."

Iran supplied Al Qaeda in Iraq as well. We kept finding those arseholes with shaped warheads made from PVV5, and penetrating charges. While I totally agree that they're involved in some shady stuff, the connection between the Mullahs of Iran and Al Qaeda is specious at best.


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Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 1:11pm
We agree.  Anything that attacks the West and our culture is OK in the two wings of Radical  Islam. 

Now, as regards being a liberal, I am not, BUT  I am willing to take that side of the argument if you agree.  That does not mean that I am a liberal, but I can pontificate their beliefs if you want somebody to bounce things off of.  As a Liberal I could not take a position of fighting against Radical  Islam because I'd believe that they have good intentions. 

I will  only take a liberal representative position if you tell me that you understand that I am taking that position for argumentation sake.  If you tell me you agree, we can be off to the races.  When you start swearing at me we will call it off.


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Posted By: Elver
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 7:10pm
Joe,
 
Are you a government troll who is trying to sell the government's agenda to the general public that a war with Iran would actually be a good thing?  I'm not so sure that it wouldn't start WWIII since China & Russia intend to back Iran.  However, it seems that our country is headed this way as a remedy to our failing economic situation.
 
So far, I'm more concerned with losing my rights as a citizen right here in the good old U. S.  of A.
 
Saber rattling is dangerous & also as dangerous is not knowing exactly to whom one is talking to on the internet.


Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: December 26 2011 at 8:38pm
Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:

Joe,
 
Are you a government troll who is trying to sell the government's agenda to the general public that a war with Iran would actually be a good thing?  I'm not so sure that it wouldn't start WWIII since China & Russia intend to back Iran.  However, it seems that our country is headed this way as a remedy to our failing economic situation.
 
So far, I'm more concerned with losing my rights as a citizen right here in the good old U. S.  of A.
 
Saber rattling is dangerous & also as dangerous is not knowing exactly to whom one is talking to on the internet.


Elver I understand where you are coming from.  My position on Iran is based upon my own participation in a "conflict" with them.  I am a conservative.

Now, I am offering to be a sacrificial liberal on this board and would not (in that regard) support the position I have taken as a former military officer.   I know that sounds crazy but is done simply for discussion sake on this board..   Membership has been flailing and participation on this forum has been failing.  I am offering to stir things up just to get participation up.

Personally, though, I have voted for myself in one of the past three presidential elections. Unfortunately I have not won. (I think I only got one vote.) When you can not even get your own wife to vote for you, you have lost totally, which I have.  She voted for McCain in the last election and lost, too.


Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: January 04 2012 at 11:12am
Again, a lot of people do not understand.  Radical Islam has declared war against us..  Radical Islam is taught in every mosque in the world because of the religious structure of Islam. Anybody who feels led by Allah can teach in a mosque. .   Every mosque has its Radicals who know their Koran and know what it says about killing  all the infidels.

This is not open to debate.  It is reality from their own admission.  They promise to kill us. The only way to rid the world of their insanity is to remove the Islamic writings from the earth. As long as the islamic writings are there, Islam will be our enemy. 

Since it is impossible to remove the writings and teachings and prophecies of Islam from the world, we need to be prepared to fight a war against terror on our own streets.   Are you ready.  I am, in my own house but I am not prepared to take it to the streets.

We have got militias in California that are just waiting for the opportunity to go off against Radical Islam. I do not support them, but I know that as soon as the Islamics blow up a Christian Church in this state, anybody who looks like a Radical Islamic will be killed. Wait and see. There are thousands of people just waiting for an excuse.


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 9:50am
 Iran to Start Enrichment at Underground Site This Month
 January 08, 2012
 
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 Photo: AP Photo/GeoEye Satellite Image
Satellite image shows a facility under construction inside a mountain located about 20 miles (32 kilometers) north northeast of Qom, Iran, September 26, 2009.

A senior Iranian official says Iran will launch a second uranium enrichment facility later this month at an underground site that is well protected from potential air strikes by nations opposed to the Iranian nuclear program.

The head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organization Fereidoun Abbasi said late Saturday the injection of uranium gas into centrifuges at the Fordo enrichment facility will begin before February 1.  Iran revealed the existence of the plant to the U.N. nuclear agency in 2009.  It is located beneath a mountain near the Shi'ite holy city of Qom.

Western powers suspect Iran's enrichment activities are aimed at developing the capability to produce nuclear weapons.  Iran says its nuclear program is designed only to generate electricity and material for medical research.

Iran's first enrichment facility in the central city of Natanz has been enriching uranium up to a fissile purity of 20 percent since last year.  Weapons-grade uranium is usually enriched to a level of 90 percent.  Iran has been preparing for months to move its higher-grade enrichment from the above ground plant at Natanz to the underground Fordo complex.

The United States and Israel have not ruled out military action to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons.  Israel sees a nuclear-armed Iran as a threat to the Jewish state's existence.

An Iranian newspaper allied to the country's supreme leader reported Sunday that Iran already has begun enrichment at Fordo at a time of "heightened enemy threats."  There was no independent confirmation of the report in the Kayhan daily.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Iran-to-Start-Enrichment-at-Underground-Site-This-Month-136902803.html - http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Iran-to-Start-Enrichment-at-Underground-Site-This-Month-136902803.html
 


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Posted By: quietone
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 4:47pm
Here is another article on the underground Fordo site near Qom.  US Troops are being deployed in Israel. 
"The 9,000 US servicemen gathering in Israel in the coming weeks are mostly airmen, missile interceptor teams, marines, seamen, technicians and intelligence officers."
 
Iran crosses another nuclear red line. Fordo soon on stream

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report January 8, 2012, 10:15 AM (GMT+02:00)
Tags: http://debka.com/search/tag/Fordo%20enrichment%20site/ - http://debka.com/search/tag/Iran%20nuclear/ - http://debka.com/search/tag/US-Israel/ - http://debka.com/search/tag/war%20exercise/ - http://debka.com/search/tag/Strait%20of%20Hormuz/ - http://debka.com/search/tag/Britain/ -
Fordo underground uranium enrichment site

Tehran media trumpeted the news Sunday, Jan. 8 that Iran's deep underground uranium enrichment site at Fordo near Qom goes stream soon, thereby crossing another line in its faceoff with the West on its weapons program. The head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organization Fereydoun Abbasi Davani told the Kayhan daily: ... 20 percent, 3.5 percent and four percent enriched uranium can be produced at this site." debkafile's military sources report that 60 percent is equally feasible, just one step before weapons grade.
Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned in a number of interviews to US media that once the Fordo plant becomes operational, Iran's nuclear bomb program will become immune to military attack and be able to operate out of the sight of Israeli and Western surveillance.
Tehran has clearly not been deterred in its drive for a nuclear weapon by the stiff sanctions the US and European Union began imposing in the past week against Iran's oil exports and its central bank.

The announcement Sunday confirmed the report from diplomats in the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency that Iran had begun feeding uranium gas into the underground centrifuges in late December ready for upgraded enrichment. "I would assume they could start if they wanted to," said one official.

debkafile reported Friday, Jan. 6 on US-Israeli-British deployments in readiness for a strike against Iran.

Thousands of US troops began descending on Israel this week. Senior US military sources told debkafile Friday, Jan. 6 that many would be staying up to the end of the year as part of the US-IDF deployment in readiness for a military engagement with Iran and its possible escalation into a regional conflict. They will be joined by a US aircraft carrier. The warplanes on its decks will fly missions with Israeli Air Force jets. The 9,000 US servicemen gathering in Israel in the coming weeks are mostly airmen, missile interceptor teams, marines, seamen, technicians and intelligence officers.

The incoming American soldiers are officially categorized as participants in Austere Challenge 12, the biggest joint US-Israeli war game ever held.

The maneuver was originally designated Juniper Stallion 2012. However, the altered name plus the comment heard from the exercise's commander, US Third Air Force Lt. Gen. Frank Gorenc, during his visit two weeks ago, that the coming event is more a "deployment" than an "exercise," confirmed that Washington has expanded its mission. The joint force will now be in place ready for a decision to attack Iran's nuclear installations or any war emergency.

Our sources disclose that it was decided at the last minute in Washington and Jerusalem to announce the forthcoming Austere Challenge 12 on Thursday night, Jan. 5, ahead of the bulletin released by Tehran about another Iranian naval exercise at the Strait of Hormuz to take place in February, although its 10-day drill in the same arena only ended Monday, Jan. 2.

The early release was decided in consultations among US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak and the two army chiefs, US Gen. Martin Dempsey and Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz.
British Defense Minister Phillip Hammond, on a visit to Washington, was brought into the discussion.
The handout circulated to US correspondents from Hammond's talks in the US capital affirmed that Britain stands ready to strike Iran if the Strait of Hormuz is closed.
However, that phrase was omitted from the British minister's remarks at a news conference, following a last-minute request from Panetta, signifying the Obama administration's interest of keeping a low profile on plans for attacking Iran.

Tehran too is walking a taut tightrope. It is staging military's maneuvers every few days to assuring the Iranian people that its leaders are fully prepared to defend the country against an American or Israeli strike on its national nuclear program. By this stratagem, Iran's ground, sea and air forces are maintained constantly at top war readiness to thwart any surprise attack.

The joint US-Israeli drill will test multiple Israeli and US air defense systems against incoming missiles and rockets, according to the official communiqué.

debkafile's military sources add that they will also practice intercepting missiles and rockets coming in from Syria, Hizballah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

It will not be the first time a US aircraft carrier docks in Israel for joint operations with the Israeli Air Force. On June 9, 2010, the USS Truman dropped anchor opposite Israel to test a joint deployment against Iran and its allies. The carrier and its air and naval strike force then staged joint firing practices with the Israeli Air Force over the Negev in the South.
Washington and Jerusalem are doing their utmost to present a perfectly synchronized military front against Iran: American officers are stationed at IDF command centers and Israeli officers posted at the US European Command-EUCOM. At the same time, debkafile's military sources disclose that full consensus has not been reached on every last particular of shared operation against Iran, should one go forward.

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Posted By: endman
Date Posted: January 10 2012 at 11:06am

This article makes a lot of good points regarding Iran’s war preps and explains why we are not in the rush to attack Iran right now. We have to choices attack Iran before it develops nukes or after  

I think will wait for Iran’s nukes so we can use our  

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28516 - http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28516
 
By punishing Iran for its nuclear research and development, U.S. and European sanctions only give incentive to Iran to double-down on the program ("U.S. sees Iran sanctions bite," Jan. 8). That's because the whole purpose of nuclear capability is to protect against outside influence in Iranian affairs which the sanctions represent. The logic of sanctions as a deterrent is flawed.
Let's be clear: If Iranian nuclear capability is the trip-wire for U.S. war against Iran, then the current and planned sanctions against Iran are best understood as a prelude to war — one of the many incremental steps necessary for hostilities to develop — not as a deterrent to war, which is the ostensible claim.
John G. Bailey, Edgemere
After years of U.S. threats, Iran is taking steps which suggest that is both willing and capable of closing the Strait of Hormuz. On December 24, 2011 Iran started its Velayat-90 naval drills in and around the Strait of Hormuz and extending from the Persian Gulf and Gulf of Oman (Oman Sea) to the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea.
Since the conduct of these drills, there has been a growing war of words between Washington and Tehran. Nothing the Obama Administration or the Pentagon have done or said so far, however, has deterred Tehran from continuing its naval drills.
The Geo-Political Nature of the Strait of Hormuz
Besides the fact that it is a vital transit point for global energy resources and a strategic chokepoint, two additional issues should be addressed in regards to the Strait of Hormuz and its relationship to Iran. The first concerns the geography of the Strait of Hormuz. The second pertains to the role of Iran in co-managing the strategic strait in accordance with international law and its sovereign national rights.
The maritime traffic that goes through the Strait of Hormuz has always been in contact with Iranian naval forces, which are predominantly composed of the Iranian Regular Force Navy and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Navy. In fact, Iranian naval forces monitor and police the Strait of Hormuz along with the Sultanate of Oman via the Omani enclave of Musandam. More importantly, to transit through the Strait of Hormuz all maritime traffic, including the U.S. Navy, must sail through Iranian territorial waters. Almost all entrances into the Persian Gulf are made through Iranian waters and most exits are through Omani waters.
Iran allows foreign ships to use its territorial waters in good faith and on the basis of Part III of the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea’s maritime transit passage provisions that stipulate that vessels are free to sail through the Strait of Hormuz and similar bodies of water on the basis of speedy and continuous navigation between an open port and the high seas. Although Tehran in custom follows the navigation practices of the Law of the Sea, Tehran is not legally bound by them. Like Washington, Tehran signed this international treaty, but never ratified it.
 
American-Iranian Tensions in the Persian Gulf
In recent developments, the Iranian Majlis (Parliament) is re-evaluating the use of Iranian waters at the Strait of Hormuz by foreign vessels.
Legislation is being proposed to block any foreign warships from being able to use Iranian territorial waters to navigate through the Strait of Hormuz without Iranian permission; the Iranian Parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Committee is currently studying legislation which would establish an official Iranian posture. The latter would hinge upon Iranian strategic interests and national security. [1]
On December 30, 2011, the U.S.S. John C. Stennis carrier passed through the area where Iran was conducting its naval drills. The Commander of the Iranian Regular Forces, Major-General Ataollah Salehi, advised the U.S.S. John C. Stennis and other U.S. Navy vessels not to return to the Persian Gulf while Iran was doing its drills, saying that Iran is not in the habit of repeating a warning twice. [2] Shortly after the stern Iranian warning to Washington, the Pentagon’s press secretary responded by making a statement saying: “No one in this government seeks confrontation [with Iran] over the Strait of Hormuz. It’s important to lower the temperature.” [3]
In an actual scenario of military conflict with Iran,  it is very likely that U.S. aircraft carriers would actually operate from outside of the Persian Gulf and from the southern Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea. Unless the missile systems that Washington is developing in the petro-sheikhdoms of the southern Persian Gulf are operational, the deployment of large U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf would be unlikely. The reasons for this are tied to geographic realities and the defensive capabilities of Iran.
 
Geography is against the Pentagon: U.S. Naval Strength has limits in the Persian Gulf
U.S. naval strength, which includes the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Coast Guard, has primacy over all the other navies and maritime forces in the world. Its deep sea or oceanic capabilities are unparalleled and unmatched by any other naval power. Primacy does not mean invincibility. U.S. naval forces in the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf are nonetheless vulnerable.
Despite its might and shear strength, geography literally works against U.S. naval power in the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf. The relative narrowness of the Persian Gulf makes it like a channel, at least in a strategic and military context. Figuratively speaking, the aircraft carriers and warships of the U.S. are confined to narrow waters or are closed in within the coastal waters of the Persian Gulf. [See map above]
This is where the Iranian military’s advanced missile capabilities come into play. The Iranian missile and torpedo arsenal would make short work of U.S. naval assets in the waters of the Persian Gulf where U.S. vessels are constricted. This is why the U.S. has been busily erecting a missile shield system in the Persian Gulf amongst the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries in the last few years.
Even the small Iranian patrol boats in the Persian Gulf, which appear pitiable and insignificant against a U.S. aircraft carrier or destroyer, threaten U.S. warships. Looks can be deceiving; these Iranian patrol boats can easily launch a barrage of missiles that could significantly damage and effectively sink large U.S. warships. Iranian small patrol boats are also hardly detectable and hard to target.
Iranian forces could also attack U.S. naval capabilities merely by launching missile attacks from the Iranian mainland on the northern shores of the Persian Gulf. Even in 2008 the Washington Institute for Near East Policy acknowledged the threat from Iran’s mobile coastal missile batteries, anti-ship missiles, and missile-armed small ships. [4] Other Iranian naval assets like aerial drones, hovercraft, mines, diver teams, and mini-submarines could also be used in asymmetrical naval warfare against the U.S. Fifth Fleet.
Even the Pentagon’s own war simulations have shown that a war in the Persian Gulf with Iran would spell disaster for the United States and its military. One key example is the Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) war game in the Persian Gulf, which was conducted from July 24, 2002 to August 15, 2002 and took almost two years to prepare. This mammoth drill was amongst the largest and most expensive war games ever held by the Pentagon.  Millennium Challenge 2002 was held shortly after the Pentagon had decided that it would continue the momentum of the war in Afghanistan by targeting Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, and finishing off with the big prize of Iran in a broad military campaign to ensure U.S. primacy in the new millennium.
After Millennium Challenge 2002 was finished, the war game was “officially” presented as a simulation of a war against Iraq under the rule of President Saddam Hussein, but in actuality these war games pertained to Iran.[5] The U.S. had already made assessments for the upcoming Anglo-American invasion of Iraq. Moreover, Iraq had no naval capabilities that would merit such large-scale use of the U.S. Navy.
Millennium Challenge 2002 was conducted to simulate a war with Iran, which was codenamed “Red” and referred to an unknown Middle Eastern rogue enemy state in the Persian Gulf. Other than Iran, no other country could meet the perimeters and characteristics of “Red” and its military forces, from the patrol boats to the motorcycle units. The war simulation took place because Washington was planning on attacking Iran soon after invading Iraq in 2003.
The scenario in the 2002 war game started with the U.S., codenamed “Blue,” giving Iran a one-day ultimatum to surrender in the year 2007. The war game’s date of 2007 would chronologically correspond to U.S. plans to attack Iran after the Israeli attack on Lebanon in 2006, which was to extend, according to military plans, into a broader war against Syria. The war against Lebanon, however, did not go as planned and the U.S. and Israel realized that if Hezbollah could challenge them in Lebanon then an expanded war with Syria and Iran would be a disaster.
In Millennium Challenge 2002’s war scenario, Iran would react to U.S. aggression by launching a massive barrage of missiles that would overwhelm the U.S. and destroy sixteen U.S. naval vessels – an aircraft carrier, ten cruisers, and five amphibious ships. It is estimated that if this had happened in real war theatre context, more than 20,000 U.S. servicemen would have been killed in the first day following the attack. [6]
Next, Iran would send its small patrol boats – the ones that look insignificant in comparison to the U.S.S. John C. Stennis and other large U.S. warships – to overwhelm the remainder of the Pentagon’s naval forces in the Persian Gulf, which would result in the damaging and sinking of most of the U.S. Fifth Fleet and the defeat of the United States. After the U.S. defeat, the war games were started over again, but “Red” (Iran) had to operate under the assumption of handicaps and shortcomings, so that U.S. forces would be allowed to emerge victorious from the drill. [7] This outcome of the war games obviated the fact that the U.S. would have been overwhelmed in the context of a real conventional war with Iran in the Persian Gulf.
Hence, the formidable naval power of Washington is handicapped both by geography as well as Iranian military capabilities when it comes to fighting in the Persian Gulf or even in much of the Gulf of Oman. Without open waters, like in the Indian Ocean or the Pacific Ocean, the U.S. will have to fight under significantly reduced response times and, more importantly, will not be able to fight from a stand-off (militarily safe) distance. Thus, entire tool boxes of U.S. naval defensive systems, which were designed for combat in open waters using stand-off ranges, are rendered unpractical in the Persian Gulf.
Making the Strait of Hormuz Redundant to Weaken Iran?
The entire world knows the importance of the Strait of Hormuz and Washington and its allies are very well aware that the Iranians can militarily close it for a significant period of time. This is why the U.S. has been working with the GCC countries – Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, and the U.A.E. – to re-route their oil through pipelines bypassing the Strait of Hormuz and channelling GCC oil directly to the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, or Mediterranean Sea. Washington has also been pushing Iraq to seek alternative routes in talks with Turkey, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia.
Both Israel and Turkey have also been very interested in this strategic project. Ankara has had discussions with Qatar about setting up an oil terminal that would reach Turkey via Iraq. The Turkish government has attempted to get Iraq to link its southern oil fields, like Iraq’s northern oil fields, to the transit routes running through Turkey. This is all tied to Turkey’s visions of being an energy corridor and important lynchpin of transit.
The aims of re-routing oil away from the Persian Gulf would remove an important element of strategic leverage Iran has against Washington and its allies. It would effectively reduce the importance of the Strait of Hormuz. It could very well be a prerequisite to war preparations and a war led by the United States against Tehran and its allies.
It is within this framework that the Abu Dhabi Crude Oil Pipeline or the Hashan-Fujairah Oil Pipeline is being fostered by the United Arab Emirates to bypass the maritime route in the Persian Gulf going through the Strait of Hormuz. The project design was put together in 2006, the contract was issued in 2007, and construction was started in 2008. [8] This pipeline goes straight from Abdu Dhabi to the port of Fujairah on the shore of the Gulf of Oman in the Arabian Sea.
In other words, it will give oil exports from the U.A.E. direct access to the Indian Ocean. It has openly been presented as a means to ensure energy security by bypassing Hormuz and attempting to avoid the Iranian military. Along with the construction of this pipeline, the erection of a strategic oil reservoir at Fujairah was also envisaged to also maintain the flow of oil to the international market should the Persian Gulf be closed off. [9]
 
Aside from the Petroline (East-West Saudi Pipeline), Saudi Arabia has also been looking at alternative transit routes and examining the ports of it southern neighbours in the Arabian Peninsula, Oman and Yemen. The Yemenite port of Mukalla on the shores of the Gulf of Aden has been of particular interest to Riyadh. In 2007, Israeli sources reported with some fanfare that a pipeline project was in the works that would connect the Saudi oil fields with Fujairah in the U.A.E., Muscat in Oman, and finally to Mukalla in Yemen. The reopening of the Iraq-Saudi Arabia Pipeline (IPSA), which was ironically built by Saddam Hussein to avoid the Strait of Hormuz and Iran, has also been a subject of discussion for the Saudis with the Iraqi government in Baghdad.
If Syria and Lebanon were converted into Washington’s clients, then the defunct Trans-Arabian Pipeline (Tapline) could also be reactivated, along with other alternative routes going from the Arabian Peninsula to the coast of the Mediterranean Sea via the Levant. Chronologically, this would also fit into Washington’s efforts to overrun Lebanon and Syria in an attempt to isolate Iran before any possible showdown with Tehran.
The Iranian Velayat-90 naval drills, which extended in close proximity to the entrance of the Red Sea in the Gulf of Aden off the territorial waters of Yemen, also took place in the Gulf of Oman facing the coast of Oman and the eastern shores of the United Arab Emirates. Amongst other things, Velayat-90 should be understood as a signal that Tehran is ready to operate outside of the Persian Gulf and can even strike or block the pipelines trying to bypass the Strait of Hormuz.
Geography again is on Iran’s side in this case too. Bypassing the Strait of Hormuz still does not change the fact that most of the oil fields belonging to GCC countries are located in the Persian Gulf or near its shores, which means they are all situated within close proximity to Iran and therefore within Iranian striking distance. Like in the case of the Hashan-Fujairah Pipeline, the Iranians could easily disable the flow of oil from the point of origin. Tehran could launch missile and aerial attacks or deploy its ground, sea, air, and amphibious forces into these areas as well. It does not necessarily need to block the Strait of Hormuz; after all preventing the flow of energy is the main purpose of the Iranian threats.
The American-Iranian Cold War
Washington has been on the offensive against Iran using all means at its disposal. The tensions over the Strait of Hormuz and in the Persian Gulf are just one front in a dangerous multi-front regional cold war between Tehran and Washington in the broader Middle East. Since 2001, the Pentagon has also been restructuring its military to wage unconventional wars with enemies like Iran. [10] Nonetheless, geography has always worked against the Pentagon and the U.S. has not found a solution for its naval dilemma in the Persian Gulf. Instead of a conventional war, Washington has had to resort to waging a covert, economic, and diplomatic war against Iran.
 

Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya is a Sociologist and award-winning author. He is a Research Associate at the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), Montreal. He specializes on the Middle East and Central Asia. He has been a contributor and guest discussing the broader Middle East on numerous programs and international networks such as Al Jazeera, Press TV and Russia Today. Nazemroaya was also a witness to the "Arab Spring" in action in North Africa. While on the ground in Libya during the NATO bombing campaign, he reported out of Tripoli for several media outlets. He sent key field dispatches from Libya for Global Research and was Special Correspondent for Pacifica's syndicated investigative program Flashpoints, broadcast out of Berkeley, California. His writings have been published in more than ten languages. He also writes for the Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF) in Moscow, Russia.

Notes
[1] Fars News Agency, “Foreign Warships Will Need Iran’s Permission to Pass through Strait of Hormuz,” January 4, 2011.
[2] Fars News Agency, “Iran Warns US against Sending Back Aircraft Carrier to Persian Gulf,” January 4, 2011.
[3] Parisa Hafezi, “Iran threatens U.S Navy as sanctions hit economy,” Reuters, January 4, 2012.
[4] Fariborz Haghshenass, “Iran’s Asymmetric Naval Warfare,” Policy Focus, no.87 (Washington, D.C.: Washington Institute for Near Eastern Policy, September 2010).
[5] Julian Borger, “Wake-up call,” The Guardian, September 6, 2002.
[6] Neil R. McCown, Developing Intuitive Decision-Making In Modern Military Leadership (Newport, R.I.: Naval War College, October 27, 2010), p.9.
[7] Sean D. Naylor, “War games rigged? General says Millennium Challenge ‘02 ‘was almost entirely scripted,’” Army Times, April 6, 2002.
[8] Himendra Mohan Kumar, “Fujairah poised to be become oil export hub,” Gulf News, June 12, 2011.
[9] Ibid.
[10] John Arquilla, “The New Rules of War,” Foreign Policy, 178 (March-April, 2010): pp.60-67.

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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 11 2012 at 6:03am
4th Iranian Nuclear Scientist killed in Magnetic Car Bomb Attack!!
 
 
Has the war already begun???????          (Covertly)
 
 
 
http://rt.com/news/iran-nuclear-scientist-killed-523/ - http://rt.com/news/iran-nuclear-scientist-killed-523/
 


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Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: January 12 2012 at 9:25am
The LONG article two posts above is total bull****.  (Bolshoi)

There are international agreements as regards narrow waterways leading into open seas that border on other countries.  The Straights of Gibraltar are the most recognizable of waterways like that.  The Straights at Sharm al Sheik in Egypt are another. (Egypt has caused several wars by prohibiting passage of ships through those straights.)

Iran, which is the greatest terrorist nation in history (with a mass murder record that makes Hitler look like a cub scout in comparison) is now trying to set up a War Crisis situation by saying that Iran has a right to seal off the straights and defy the rest of the world.

I personally favor turning Iran into six or seven small countries each with their own language and culture.  The sooner we do that the safer the world will be. 


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 12 2012 at 10:32am
There are currently 2 Aircraft Carrier Groups (Vinson & Stennis) near Iran with a third en route (Abraham Lincoln).
 
US Navy responds ----its just a coincidental scheduling----
 
"I don't want to leave anyone with the impression that we're somehow zorching [speeding] two carriers over to there because we're concerned with what happened today in Iran," said Navy Capt. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman. "This is just prudent force posture requirements set by the combatant commander."
 
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/iran-aircraft-carriers/ - http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/iran-aircraft-carriers/
 


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Posted By: mrmouse
Date Posted: January 15 2012 at 11:02am
IRAN: US/Israeli False Flag Attack May Be Underway?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/14/iran-usisraeli-false-flag-attack-may-be-underway/ - www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/14/iran-usisraeli-false-flag-attack-may-be-underway/


Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: January 15 2012 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by mrmouse mrmouse wrote:

IRAN: US/Israeli False Flag Attack May Be Underway?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/14/iran-usisraeli-false-flag-attack-may-be-underway/ - www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/14/iran-usisraeli-false-flag-attack-may-be-underway/


Praise God  if we do.  It needs to be done.  Iran needs to disappear from the list of nations for the  rest of time.  No ifs, ands or buts about it WE OWE THEM BIG TIME FOR ALL OF THE TERRORIST ATTACKS AROUND THE WORLD.

PAYBACK IS A MO FO.


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 23 2012 at 8:11am
EU backs US Oil Embargo and Freeze on Irans Central Bank.
 
http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/01/23/eu-bans-iranian-oil-freezes-central-bank-assets/ - http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/01/23/eu-bans-iranian-oil-freezes-central-bank-assets/
 
 
USS Abraham Lincoln Enters Persian Gulf (Strait ofHormuz) without incident despite Irans toothless threats. Also with the US Group a French and also British Warships.
 
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/US-Aircraft-Carrier-Enters-Persian-Gulf-Without-Incident-137865333.html - http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/US-Aircraft-Carrier-Enters-Persian-Gulf-Without-Incident-137865333.html
 
Iran after EU announcement today makes another threat to close Straights of Hormuz if oil embargo is enforced. ""Psycho Babble""
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9032948/Iran-threatens-to-close-Strait-of-Hormuz-over-EU-oil-sanctions.html - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9032948/Iran-threatens-to-close-Strait-of-Hormuz-over-EU-oil-sanctions.html
 


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Posted By: mrmouse
Date Posted: January 24 2012 at 7:29am
India to pay gold instead of dollars for Iranian oil. Oil and gold markets stunned.
http://debka.com/article/21673/ - debka.com/article/21673/


Posted By: mrmouse
Date Posted: January 24 2012 at 8:50am
Ben Bernanke: Gold Is Not Money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKstAq5GdIY&feature=youtube_gdata_player - www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKstAq5GdIY&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 11:32am
Iran Lashes out at its Gulf Neighbors with threats after new sanctions and oil embargo.
 
 
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If Arab neighbours compensate for a looming EU ban on Iranian imports, "we would not consider these actions to be friendly," Iran's representative to OPEC, Mohammad Ali Khatibi, was quoted as saying by the Sharq newspaper on Sunday.

"They will be held responsible for what happens" in that case, he said, adding ominously: "One cannot predict the consequences."

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http://middle-east-online.com/english/?id=50034 - http://middle-east-online.com/english/?id=50034
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 1:26pm
 Russia---Syria---Iran
 
Influence---Money----Arms
 
Is the cold war really over or is someone wanting back in the game?
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Russia Emerges as Syria's Most Valuable Ally
Written by David Rosenberg
Published Thursday, January 26, 2012

A friend in need, the Al-Assad regime is getting arms, diplomatic cover

As the Arab League agreed to go to the United Nations Security Council early this week with a resolution calling for Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad to step down, Russia was reportedly doing a major arms deal with the beleaguered regime.

The $550 million agreement to sell 36 Yak-130 combat aircraft will not do anything to tip the balance in favor of the Al-Assad regime, which has been engaged in a 10-month conflict with anti-government opposition. But Russia is almost certainly providing arms Damascus needs to hold back the rebels as well as mounting a diplomatic defense of its friend at the U.N..

In a rare glimpse into the Russia-Syrian arms trade, a ship loaded with ammunition from Russia was briefly detained in Cyprus earlier this month before continuing its journey unmolested to the Syrian port of Tartus. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has vowed that Russia will veto any sanctions as �unfair and counterproductive.

"Syria is an important customer for the Russian military industry and the industry is quite keen to maintain the relationship," Fyodor Lukyanov, the editor-in-chief of the Moscow based foreign policy journal Russia in Global Affairs, told The Media Line. "Syria is one of the few remaining customers in the region and it hosts the only military base - a small one but still a base � that Russia still has outside its own borders."

As the West - now joined by the Arab League - presses the Syrian president ever harder, Russia has emerged as his most important ally. Iran also backs the Damascus regime, but Tehran itself faces growing diplomatic isolation over its nuclear program and doesn't wield a Security Council veto. China is opposed to Syrian sanctions, too, but analysts say it is likely to follow whatever line Moscow adopts.

Russia's warm ties with Syria, and more exactly the Al-Assad family regime that has ruled the country four decades, starts with arms sales but it goes much deeper.

In the final two decades of the Cold War era, when the Soviet Union was a superpower competing for global influence with the U.S., Syria was its staunchest ally in the Middle East. Bashar Al-Assad's father and predecessor Hafez armed his troops with Soviet weapons and advanced Moscow�s interests in the region.

With the collapse of communism and with Syria's deteriorating economy, the relationship is not what it once was. But Russia maintains a naval base at Tartus and the two governments share a distrust of the West and its motives.

Indeed, the view from Moscow of what is happening in Syria is very different than the one in Washington or Brussels. Where the West sees events in Syria as a popular uprising against a repressive regime, Russia shares Damascus' take, which sees the rebellion as conspiracy by the Gulf countries to bring down an ally of their foe Iran.

"Saudi Arabia, Qatar and others see this as an opportunity, as a chance to push back Iranian influence," Lukyanov said. "From Russia�s point of view, it's part of a geopolitical struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia, where Syria is just a card."

For policymakers in Moscow, the situation in Syria looks remarkably similar to the one in Libya last year, where another long-time friend, Muamar Al-Qaddafi, faced what was seen in the West as a popular rebellion against autocracy. Russia reluctantly agreed not to veto a UN decision to impose a no-fly zone over the country.

The resolution, as Russia�s leaders understood it, was to prevent Al-Qaddafi from killing civilians with aerial firepower. But the NATO forces that largely enforced the decision, Russians say, used it to level the playing field in the Libyan civil war to Al-Qaddafi's disadvantage. Moscow lost a friend and customer for its arms and is now out of favor with the successor National Transitional Council.

Zvi Magen, a former Israeli ambassador to Russia, said Russia's Syria policy is driven by memories of its Cold War rivalry with the U.S.

"There's an element of business in the arms deals, but it's mainly a political move to show the flag and to show support for Syria. It's mainly a function of Russian relations with America than with the Syrian regime," Magen told The Media Line.

For that reason - and because Moscow realizes that Al-Assad�s days are numbered - it may be prepared to make a deal with the U.S. over Syria, he added.

Nevertheless, analysts agree that the importance of the arms trade as a factor in Moscow's calculations should not be overlooked.  In an economy with few other industrial exports, Russia's military industry is an important earner of foreign exchange and a powerful domestic political force.

The Voice of Russia radio's website said in December without citing a source that Russian arms exports reached $11 billion last year, a three-fold increase from 2000. While the country�s biggest customers are India and China, the Middle East had been a growing market until the Arab Spring eliminated Al-Qaddafi and sanctions on Iran removed another customer. Syria alone, according to some estimates, accounted for 7% of all Russian arms sales in 2010.

A U.S. government study in 2009 estimated Russia�s share of the Middle East arms market grew to more than 15% in the 2005-2008 period, five percentage points more than in 2001-2004 as it offered more creative financing and payment options, counter-trade,
offsets, debt-swapping, and, in some cases, licensing production locally.

Russia's Interfax news agency reported in early December that Russia delivered $300 million of Yakhont anti-ship cruise missiles to Syria.

With numbers like that, it is no wonder that Sergey Chemezov, the head of the state arms export company Rosoboronexport, made clear he had no intention of halting business with Syria.

"There are no sanctions whatsoever regarding Syria," he told Interfax on Wednesday. "If international sanctions are imposed by the UN Security Council, everything will change. And if there are no sanctions, why should we refuse to cooperate with this country? This is business after all."

Nevertheless, Magen said, Russia is careful not to sell Damascus weapons like S-300 surface-to-air missiles that could alter the regional balance of power. 

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http://www.themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=34271 - http://www.themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=34271
 


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Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 1:43pm
Islamic World politics.  What a mess.  I favor giving Afghanistan to China and let them control the criminal element in the land.  They know how to suppress Radical Islamic rebellion and they would do a far better job than us with our concept of Peaceful Control.

Never in world history has there ever been an example of Peaceful Control of Radical Islam.

If they  step out of line, you shoot them.
If they look like they are going to step out of line, you shoot them.
You gather them into a room and play militant Islamic martial music. As soon as they start goosestepping, and giving the raised arm Heil Mohammed Salute, you shoot them.

Turn them all into fertilizer and enrich the soil.


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 2:02pm
Iranians dash for dollars and gold after a 50% fall in Iranian Rial against the US Dollar in just a few weeks. New sanctions on Iranian Central Banking and Oil showing effects on the ground and creating financial instability within Iran.
 
http://www.middleeast.org/mereport/go.php?bWlkZGxlZWFzdC5vcmd8fG1lcnx8aHR0cDovL3d3dy5yZXV0ZXJzLmNvbS9hcnRpY2xlLzIwMTIvMDEvMjUvdXMtaXJhbi1lY29ub215LXJhdGVzLWlkVVNUUkU4ME8wVjUyMDEyMDEyNQ - http://www.middleeast.org/mereport/go.php?bWlkZGxlZWFzdC5vcmd8fG1lcnx8aHR0cDovL3d3dy5yZXV0ZXJzLmNvbS9hcnRpY2xlLzIwMTIvMDEvMjUvdXMtaXJhbi1lY29ub215LXJhdGVzLWlkVVNUUkU4ME8wVjUyMDEyMDEyNQ ==
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 9:16pm
High stakes political gambling going on here with the embargo and sactions on irans central banking system. We will find out who is friend and who is fo. Lip service just isnt going to do here.
 
Europe first to back US/Israel on Iranian Sanctions at considerable risk to a much weakened economy already.  Italy and Greece are the most exposed being the 2 main european importers of iranian oil.
 
Communist China First to go the other way with kinda comy Russia not far behind. Remember that next time you buy somthing labeled (Made In Commy Land)
 
Japan and Korea still undecided.
 
Meanwhile Iran may plan to react by prempting the EU July date and just shut down production to europe as a counter measure to recent events. Could get messy
 
We live in interesting Times (Indeed)!!


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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: January 28 2012 at 2:14pm
Hey Mahshadin, Wanna see something cool? Since you're a Moderator too, check out where my IP is right now. I'm deployed there.

Please don't post the name or base, just understand that my eyes are very, very much on the goings on in Iran.

Proximity *IS* a MO FO!


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 28 2012 at 4:24pm

Boy thats what you call   (In The Thick Of It)   TG

Nice to hear from you (Been Awhile).  Understandable considering


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: January 28 2012 at 6:12pm

Report: US Military to Send 'Mothership' to Middle East

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Report-US-to-Send-Mothership-to-Middle-East-138257479.html - http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Report-US-to-Send-Mothership-to-Middle-East-138257479.html



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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 03 2012 at 4:30pm
February 03, 2012

US Concerns Grow Over Possible Israeli Strike on Iran

 
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Photo: AP
Iranian students form a human chain around the Isfahan Uranium Conversion Facility in support of Iran's nuclear program, just outside the city of Isfahan, 410 kilometers (255 miles) south of the capital Tehran, Iran, Nov. 15, 2011 (file photo).

Talk of a possible attack on Iranian nuclear facilities is again rumbling in Tehran, Jerusalem, and Washington. Israel is reported to be increasingly anxious about Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program and at least one U.S. official is reported to be warning that an Israeli attack is not far off.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak says the world is running out of time to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons power. U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is reported to believe Israel could launch strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities within the next five months.

Iranian officials deny any intention to build nuclear weapons and Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei warned Friday Iran will retaliate in full force if its nuclear facilities are attacked.

 
Whole Story
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/US-Concerns-Grow-Over-Possible-Israeli-Strike-on-Iran-138662284.html - http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/US-Concerns-Grow-Over-Possible-Israeli-Strike-on-Iran-138662284.html
 


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Posted By: Joe Neubarth
Date Posted: February 03 2012 at 4:57pm
It will go down on March 15th.  This according to a close friend of mine who tells me it is for real.  I have known him since the Yom Kippur war, and he is reliable.  I am counting down the weeks, but personally expect the strike to be sooner.












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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 03 2012 at 5:29pm
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responds today with more of the same. Below are a couple of lines from the religious leader today.
 
Supreme leader   LOL  LOL        (((((( Delusions of grandeur ))))))

 

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Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned Friday that Iran will retaliate against Western-backed oil sanctions and threats of attack,
 
He also said Iran will back any nation or group that intends to confront Israel.
 
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Whole Article
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Iran-Threatens-Retaliation-for-Sanctions-or-Attack-138635574.html - http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Iran-Threatens-Retaliation-for-Sanctions-or-Attack-138635574.html

 


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Posted By: TipKat
Date Posted: February 03 2012 at 5:43pm
Turboguy stay safe dude.  Tip


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 03 2012 at 9:38pm
Joe, if Israel attacks Iran will they Nuke or conventional weapons? I purchased Potassium Iodide tablets and have them in my stores just in case someone uses a nuke and we have fallout.

As soon as this blizzard is over I am going to get fresh water in my 5 gallon water jugs for my water cooler.

TURBOGUY...where ever you are I know God is with you and will keep you in his arms. Thank you for keeping our sorry A$$es safe!


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 03 2012 at 11:17pm
Iran makes play for space
Iran launches third domestically made Rocket into space with Observation Satelite to circle the globe every 90 minutes
Looks like they have made some leaps in rocket technology, add a nuke and what do we have on our hands.
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gzzPTfGJ30 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gzzPTfGJ30
 
 
Iran's Khamenei: Addresses Country on Western Sanctions and Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6RfPP-b8LI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6RfPP-b8LI
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 13 2012 at 10:24am
Tensions rise as Israeli diplomats are targeted with car bombs in india and georgia.
 
Quote today from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
 "Iran is behind these attacks"
 
http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/02/13/israel-blames-iran-hezbollah-for-embassy-attacks/ - http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/02/13/israel-blames-iran-hezbollah-for-embassy-attacks/
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 7:15am
VIDEO: ISRAEL THREATENS IRAN’S NUCLEAR FACILITIES            (Israel Defense Minister)
 

http://english.cntv.cn/program/newshour/20120217/113862.shtml -

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak speaks to his Japanese
counterpart Naoki Tanaka during their meeting at Defense Ministry
in Tokyo Thursday, Feb. 16, 2012.
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 2:07pm
Saudi Aramco to Re-Open Oldest Field to Tap Heavy Oil, EIU

Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Saudi Arabian Oil Co. plans to re- open the Gulf kingdom's oldest oil field and produce there for the first time in 30 years as the company boosts output of heavy crude, the Economist Intelligence Unit said.

The state-owned producer, known as Saudi Aramco, may revive a plan from 2008 to restore production at the mothballed Dammam field, the EIU said in a report. Dammam contains some 500 million barrels of oil and may yield as much as 100,000 barrels a day of Arabian Heavy crude, according to the report.

Whole Article
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-17/saudi-aramco-to-re-open-oldest-field-to-tap-heavy-oil-eiu.html - http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-17/saudi-aramco-to-re-open-oldest-field-to-tap-heavy-oil-eiu.html
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 19 2012 at 12:13pm
http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/02/19/iran-halts-oil-sales-to-france-britain-3/ -


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 19 2012 at 1:47pm
Well there goes the neighborhood! Anyone remember the oil embargo in the 70's...I do. That is why I drive a car that gets 30 mpg. If things get really bad my bike will get used. I have been looking at a tri cycle with a nice basket, since I am older I worry about my balance. Everything I do is close to my home so the excercise will do me good.


Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: February 19 2012 at 3:12pm
We have already been consolidating trips and just not going to the store and using other things if we are out of something, rather than waste gas. The closest grocery store is 5 miles away (10 miles roundtrip) so I am not going to just run over there for 1 item, we will just do without until the next time we pass the grocery store. The other night I wanted to make chili for dinner, but I was missing 1 ingredient, so I made baked chicken instead. When I passed the grocery store today I stopped and picked up what I needed and I'll make the chili tomorrow night instead.
 
Anytime I go into the town I work in I try to run as many errands, grocery shop and do everything  and get everything I can while I am in town, because it's 25 miles away (50 miles roundtrip).


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 19 2012 at 10:18pm
My late husband who made the mistake of buying a Jeep that gets 15 miles to the gallon did errands in a loop so not to waste gas. Now my son is driving that car and learning what the cost of gas is!

I am really considering a tri bike. The good ones are so expensive.


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 21 2012 at 8:57pm
After 2 days UN IAEA Inspector team calls it quits and leaves Iran after refusal to grant access to Nuclear Sites.
 
Tuesday Irans Mohammad Hejazi, the deputy armed forces head, said Tuesday, “Our strategy now is that if we feel our enemies want to endanger Iran’s national interests, and want to decide to do that, we will act without waiting for their actions.”     
 
Iran sails War ships in to the Medditerranean and parks in Syria. US responds by sending War ships off the coast of Spain
 
USS Abraham Lincoln has finished its Persan Gulf mission and passes through the Straights of Hormuz close to Iran without incident.


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Posted By: coyote
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 2:55am
Oh boy looks like it's all about ready to "kick off"...It's not going to be pretty I'm afraid.

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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 22 2012 at 12:04pm
Vladinir Putin of Russia now attempting to regain leadership of Russia who is the main backer of Iran and Syria besides China is now promising a new Russia by bringing back the Military Prominence and spending to Cold War Levels. Promising 400 new intercontinental ballistic missiles, 2,300 late-generation tanks, 600 modern combat aircraft � including at least 100 military-purpose space planes � eight nuclear ballistic missile submarines, 50 surface warships as well as a whole new inventory of artillery, air defense systems, and about 17,000 new military vehicles.

Story
Fearing The West, Putin Pledges Biggest Military Buildup Since Cold War
http://www.businessinsider.com/fearing-the-west-putin-pledges-biggest-military-buildup-since-cold-war-2012-2 - http://www.businessinsider.com/fearing-the-west-putin-pledges-biggest-military-buildup-since-cold-war-2012-2
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: February 26 2012 at 9:50am
US Bolsters Defenses in Strait of Hormuz
Saturday, 25 Feb 2012 12:22 PM   AFP

The Pentagon has notified US lawmakers of plans to bolster US defenses in and around the Strait of Hormuz to be prepared for a military response against Iran, a report said Friday.

New mine-detection and clearing equipment as well as improved surveillance capabilities are part of the planned build-up, said the Wall Street Journal, citing defense officials briefed on the requests.

The Pentagon also wants to modify ship weapons systems to best deal with Iranian attack boats in the Strait, said the report.

The moves highlight efforts to boost US military capabilities amid heightened tension with Iran and rising speculation of a strike from Israel over Iran's nuclear program.


Read more on Newsmax.com: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/USBolstersDefensesinStraitofHormuz/2012/02/25/id/430536#ixzz1nVlEYhzs - US Bolsters Defenses in Strait of Hormuz


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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: February 26 2012 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

US Bolsters Defenses in Strait of Hormuz
Saturday, 25 Feb 2012 12:22 PM   AFP

The Pentagon has notified US lawmakers of plans to bolster US defenses in and around the Strait of Hormuz to be prepared for a military response against Iran, a report said Friday.

New mine-detection and clearing equipment as well as improved surveillance capabilities are part of the planned build-up, said the Wall Street Journal, citing defense officials briefed on the requests.

The Pentagon also wants to modify ship weapons systems to best deal with Iranian attack boats in the Strait, said the report.

The moves highlight efforts to boost US military capabilities amid heightened tension with Iran and rising speculation of a strike from Israel over Iran's nuclear program.


Read more on Newsmax.com: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/USBolstersDefensesinStraitofHormuz/2012/02/25/id/430536#ixzz1nVlEYhzs - US Bolsters Defenses in Strait of Hormuz


All bullscheiss aside...

I can't say much considering I am where I am.

What I can say is that things are getting really interesting in this neck of the woods right now and think that things might get far more interesting before I'm outta here.

If Israel's going to do it, they'd better wait until I leave.


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 02 2012 at 3:00pm
Russian premier vows to ward off attack on Iran
 
Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin
Fri Mar 2, 2012 6:44AM
 

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has warned of the dire consequences of a military conflict with the Islamic Republic, saying Moscow will do its utmost to avert a war on Iran.
 
"We will do everything possible to prevent a military conflict either in Iran or around it,"
 
Whole Story
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/229543.html - http://www.presstv.ir/detail/229543.html
 


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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: March 03 2012 at 3:56am
Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

Russian premier vows to ward off attack on Iran
 
Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin
Fri Mar 2, 2012 6:44AM
 

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has warned of the dire consequences of a military conflict with the Islamic Republic, saying Moscow will do its utmost to avert a war on Iran.
 
"We will do everything possible to prevent a military conflict either in Iran or around it,"
 
Whole Story
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/229543.html - http://www.presstv.ir/detail/229543.html
 
 
Moscow doesn't want to get itself into a conflict with the United States. *THAT* is little more than saber rattling. Putin is trying to garner political support by focusing his electorate's view on outside forces rather than on the myriad of his personal corruption and failures at home.
 
They'd get their asses handed to them spectacularly in any conflict with the U.S. Military unless it went Nuclear and then everyone loses.
 
I suppose that our current political leadership and those running against him on the Republican side don't exactly inspire confidence in me, so we may very well back down over this. But realistically, we can pretty much do whatever we want with impunity and Putin will bluster but not get directly involved.
 
Putin does not want a hot war, he wants another cold war so he can bring back his KGB.
 
I hope it doesn't come to actual shooting vs. Russians, but to defeat the United States you don't need to fire a shot. Just run up the price of oil, which they're doing nicely supplying Iran with nuclear material. The Iranians are just stupid enough to let a bit of the Ol' Canned Sunshine loose. Then...
 
...Everyone comes to Mother Russia for the Oil.


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 04 2012 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

 
Moscow doesn't want to get itself into a conflict with the United States. *THAT* is little more than saber rattling. Putin is trying to garner political support by focusing his electorate's view on outside forces rather than on the myriad of his personal corruption and failures at home.
 

Putin doesn't need political support, he already has it and will win the election easily. Putin however is not a friend, quite the opposite and still holds many of the values and objectives of the soviet era. As far as a direct conflict I agree, this will not happen and is little more than a poker bluff. He has however as has Russia been very successful in using others to push forward their hidden agenda (China, Iran, Syria).

 
They'd get their asses handed to them spectacularly in any conflict with the U.S. Military unless it went Nuclear and then everyone loses.
 

I think it is more understanding the goals of the opposition. I don't think anyone in there right mind be it Russia, Iran, China, or anyone else is delusional to the point of believing they could be victorious against the US Military more importantly our ability to project overwhelming force around the World via our Naval Superiority. I don’t believe the goal would be victory at all, that would be suicide, but rather to show weakness which in itself would change the balance of power going forward. Having all of this go down in an area that is without a doubt a difficult naval theatre is no accident. The Persian golf and more specifically the Straights of hormuz which has areas where it is less that 30 miles of workable seas to conduct operations automatically limits the options greatly and also adds to the vulnerability of the naval forces involved. Our military and more specifically our navy knows this is problematic at best. Add to the mix supersonic anti-ship missile systems like the Russian 3M-54E where a naval ship would have mere seconds to react before being struck. A missile traveling at almost 3 times the speed of sound with a zigzag approach to target with only seconds to shoot it down. Could we defeat one of these probably, could we defeat 10 of these fired at a single target hmm the answer becomes questionable. A sinking or even a hit or 2 would be viewed as a glorious victory on their part no matter what else happed or the outcome of the overall conflict. Just ask Israel who had an advanced Naval vessel struck by an advanced missile fired by Hezbollah/Lebanon/Syria/Iran/China/Russia, and that was just a subsonic variety in their most recent conflict. Has Russia or China already sold these missiles to Iran or given them the technology to build their own, I think that's anybody's guess. I also think anything is possible from a man who views the US about the same as Iran views Israel.

 

Putin's words talking about the US

 

"They are living like parasites off the global economy and their monopoly of the dollar,"

 

Most people would have guessed that came out of the mouth of the Iranian leader not the Russian.

 
 
I suppose that our current political leadership and those running against him on the Republican side don't exactly inspire confidence in me, so we may very well back down over this. But realistically, we can pretty much do whatever we want with impunity and Putin will bluster but not get directly involved.
 

He is already directly involved as is China. In my view both countries are responsible for arming the radical factions not just inn the middle east but elsewhere. The illusion is that they are buddies working together in the global economy (NOT). We have become to comfortable with foes who would like nothing more than to see us go down, whether that's just a huge black eye vs defeat does not matter. We are somewhat at a disadvantage as we are seen around the globe as un-touchable militarily (Especially Naval). In their view you don't have to win the war you just have to win a few battles to change the perception of (David VS Goliath) and ultimately a shift in power. This is already underway after Iraq and Afghanistan where are multi million and multi billion dollar weapon systems had little effect against an insurgent force armed with less than a thousand dollar weapon. Again their intent was never to win the war it was simply to win some battles and drag things out longer and longer until financially the goliath simply can not afford to go on. Funny that's kind of what we did to Russia many years ago, you think we would have learned that lesson since we drew up the plan in the first place. In the case of Iraq though I believe it was simply a matter of reality, we had to have that oil and we simply could not just wait it out any longer without risking future problems with oil supplies. Iraq was to become our next Saudi Arabia producing somewhere between 5 and 10 million barrels of crude a day. All the other stuff was simply BS.

 

Iran on the other hand has a lot of oil and could easily be upgraded for increased production but most of that oil goes east not west with the exception of a few European countries. Maybe the projections for Iraq are not really panning out and Iran is simply the next logical step. If so this would cause a large rift between west and east and ultimately something one or more countries may decide to fight over (Who Knows). I sure hope they were right about Iraq because if they are not we will be forced to use force somewhere else (Its Just Basic Math). I have seen a few new oil finds in Iraq but nothing that significant to bring them to Saudi status as far as production goes. See link below

 
 
Putin does not want a hot war, he wants another cold war so he can bring back his KGB.
 
I hope it doesn't come to actual shooting vs. Russians, but to defeat the United States you don't need to fire a shot. Just run up the price of oil, which they're doing nicely supplying Iran with nuclear material. The Iranians are just stupid enough to let a bit of the Ol' Canned Sunshine loose. Then...
 
...Everyone comes to Mother Russia for the Oil.
 

Oil Oil Oil

Boy it seems recently it all comes down to oil. I completely agree with you and I would even take it a bit further. Russia wins either way this goes down as they will likely only be indirectly involved militarily (Supplier).

I found this to be an interesting read (2011 Energy Outlook) by the International Energy Agency which has projections out to 2035. Scroll down to the page (Rising transport demand & upstream costs reconfirm the end of cheap oil). Notice who is slotted to have the largest increases in production (Iraq by 5 million barrels a day). Also notice who is not on there (Iran)  ?????.

http://www.iea.org/weo/docs/weo2011/key_graphs.pdf - (The whole thin is pretty good read if you have the time)

Anyway you slice it, Iran will have to be dealt with in some way or means, and their recent moves to trade oil away from the Dollar standard may force our hand along with pressure from our allies, mainly Israel. Israel Delegation meets tomorrow at the white house. Would like to be a fly on the wall for that one.

 
 

I should stop rambling now, stay safe TG and watch your back!!!

Oh  and dont forget to go down to you local China Mart and buy some more stuff so we can keep financing our own demise!!!


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 04 2012 at 3:33pm
China today announced an 11% increase in Military Spending for 2012, this after a 12.7 % increase in 2011 and double digit increases for nearly 2 decades!
 
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/China-Boosts-2012-Military-Spending--141342473.html - http://www.voanews.com/english/news/China-Boosts-2012-Military-Spending--141342473.html
 


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Posted By: Turboguy
Date Posted: March 05 2012 at 2:44am

Good read on the situation over here Mahshadin! I couldn't agree more.

Those 3m-54E's I am assuming they've got aren't going to be on the coast, they'll be farther inland. Granted they're *FAST* but they've got a relatively short range, and their other shortcoming is that they'd be seen getting launched and jammed or shot down. They'd have to do it covertly. If they launched ten at the same time, there's enough ECM in the area that it'd make any radar guidance system moot. They'd have ten really expensive dumfires. The zigzag approach only really works on craft without any jamming systems.
 
Also if ten of them simultaneously turned on their radars, it'd be like turning on ten spotlights at you in a dark room. You can see where they all are. If they even locked onto our ships, they could expect a SLBM headed their way, even now, so they'd have to turn it on, lock, and fire then get out and run fast enough to escape the effects of our warheads, and they're only going to get one shot.
 
I suppose Iran's only real hope of directly striking a US naval asset would be to air launch either a Sunburn of Sizzler and hope for the best. It wouldn't be any sustained kind of thing either. From that point on nothing, and I mean *NOTHING* would fly within 500 NM of that carrier group without the group's express written permission. The pilot of that aircraft is pretty much toast. And then they're only going to really get one shot off and they can count on getting their regime changed pretty much the very next day through 2000 pounds of pure hate and discontent, have the U.S. Marines and Army crossing their borders and anyone else that got in the way would get some too.


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 06 2012 at 9:33pm
Saudi flexes Gulf grip with Bahrain 'union' plans

By BRIAN MURPHY, Associated Press

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) � During a sermon last week at Bahrain's Grand Mosque, the pro-government prayer leader offered sweeping praise for one of the Arab Spring's counter-revolutions: Gulf rulers bonding together against dissent with powerful Saudi Arabia as their main guardian.

The widening Saudi security stamp on the region is already taking shape in Bahrain, where more than a year of Shiite-led unrest shows no sign of easing and the Saudi influence over the embattled Sunni monarchy is on public display.

Portraits of the Saudi King Abdullah � some showing him praying � dot the airport in Bahrain's capital Manama. Bahrain's red-and-white flag and the green Saudi colors are arranged with crossed staffs. State media continually lauds the Saudi-led military force that rolled into Bahrain last year as reinforcements against the uprising by the kingdom's Shiite majority.

"Gulf union is a long-awaited dream," said Sheik Fareed al-Meftah at Friday prayers in Manama's main Sunni mosque, referring to proposals to coordinate defense affairs and other policies among the six members of the Gulf Cooperation Council stretching from Kuwait to Oman.

"The first step is here," al-Meftah added.

Abdullah and Bahrain's king, Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, have met to discuss "union" plans, which are expected to be outlined in May. For the moment, few details have emerged. Gulf leaders have stressed the need for greater intelligence and military cooperation. It's unclear, however, how deeply Bahrain and Saudi Arabia will attempt to merge in the first steps.

The increasingly blurred national lines in Bahrain are a possible sneak preview of the wider Arab Spring backlash in the oil-rich Gulf, where Saudi power seeks to safeguard the region's Sunni leadership and its strong opposition to possible attempts by Shiite giant Iran to expand influence. Meanwhile, Gulf rulers have selectively endorsed rebellions elsewhere, such as in Libya and Syria.

So far, the Gulf agenda has dovetailed with Western partners, which unleashed NATO-led airstrikes against Moammar Gadhafi's regime in Libya and are showing increasing support for possible aid to the rebels trying to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad � Iran's key Arab ally.

But Bahrain brings the potential for friction.

Washington has stood behind Bahrain's dynasty for strategic reasons as hosts of the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet, which is a pillar of the Pentagon's frontline forces against Iran. Yet rights groups and others have increased pressure in the U.S. and Europe to scale back support for Bahrain's rulers, who are struggling against a Shiite majority claiming it faces widespread discrimination and second-class status.

There are no signs of any significant Western reduction in support for Bahrain's dynasty, but the quandaries highlight how the tiny island kingdom has the potential to open rifts between the West and crucial ally Saudi Arabia.

"Bahrain can be looked at as something of a Saudi colony now in the sense that policies are merged," said Toby Jones, an expert on Bahraini affairs at Rutgers University. "But this is more than just a meeting of minds. It's motivated by the fears of the Arab Spring."

While there have been some rumblings of opposition � including protests in Shiite pockets in Saudi Arabia � nothing in the Gulf region has come close to Bahrain's upheaval. More than 45 people have died in the unrest, which includes near daily street clashes that include tear gas from security forces and firebombs from demonstrators. Some rights groups place the death toll above 60.

There have been no confirmed reports of Saudi soldiers directly involved in the crackdowns. But the troops in Bahrain have protected key sites, such as power plants, to free up local police. The military intervention also send a broad message that Saudi considers Bahrain a line that can't be crossed.

Gulf Arab leaders repeatedly claim that Iran is pulling the strings behind Bahrain's Shiite protests, although no clear evidence has been produced to support the allegations. The Gulf bloc fears the fall of Bahrain's 200-year-old Sunni dynasty would give Iran a beachhead in their midst.

Last month, Saudi's King Abdullah claimed "unnamed hands" were behind the upheavals in Bahrain and other unrest against Sunni leaders in the Arab world. Abdullah did not specifically cite Iran, but similar terms have been used by Saudi officials and others in the six-member Gulf Cooperation Council, which includes Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates.

The Saudi defense minister, in an interview published Sunday in the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Seyassah, called the regional security force, known as the Peninsula Shield, the " nucleus" of protection against any threats to the Gulf states.

"Iran is our neighbor, but we draw a line when it comes to intervention in our internal affairs," Prince Salman bin Abdul Aziz was quoted as saying. "Whenever we feel that anybody is interfering in our internal affairs, through internal mercenaries or people from outside, we will resist it appropriately."

A Bahrain-based economic researcher, Jassim Hussain, said a Gulf union could involve more unified economic help from the super-rich Saudi Arabia to prop up Bahrain, whose role as a regional financial hub has taken a sharp blow from the unrest. In a rare boost for Bahrain's economy in the past year, Saudi Arabia's Prince Alwaleed bin Talal selected Manama in December as the base for a 24-hour news channel, Alarab.

"Bahrain's rulers have always been dependent on the generosity of Saudi Arabia," said Simon Henderson, a Gulf analyst at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. "It's all part of the larger story � the rivalry between Saudi Arabia and Iran for regional power."

Shiite groups in Bahrain, however, were wary that the planned union would leave Saudi Arabia the de facto ruler and further tighten crackdowns on the opposition.

"We welcome the idea of closer Gulf union if the people of nations approve it," said Sheik Ali Salman, head the largest Shiite political group, Al Wefaq. "But if the purpose is just to turn Bahrain into an emirate of Saudi Arabia, then it will not be accepted and it will be disastrous."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQZEcbqgDLJOgYx5OC2d8t4S9MdA?docId=d76572a18d284cf2aabbc9090a73cf32 - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQZEcbqgDLJOgYx5OC2d8t4S9MdA?docId=d76572a18d284cf2aabbc9090a73cf32



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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 09 2012 at 11:02pm
Iranian backed Shiite Clericks put close to 100,000 people on the streets prostesting the Sunni Government in Bahrain (Home To US Navy's 5th Fleet---Persian Gulf)
 
Never a dull moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/09/10624567-tens-of-thousands-demand-democracy-in-huge-bahrain-protest - http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/09/10624567-tens-of-thousands-demand-democracy-in-huge-bahrain-protest


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 11 2012 at 9:45pm
USS Enterprise Sets off for the Middle East
 
Final Voyage for the Worlds First Nuclear Aircraft Carrier which has been in service for 50+ years.
 
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/military/dp-nws-cp-ussenterprise-deploys-20120311,0,2196228.story - http://www.dailypress.com/news/military/dp-nws-cp-ussenterprise-deploys-20120311,0,2196228.story
 
http://www.npr.org/2012/03/10/148375398/famed-uss-enterprise-takes-its-final-voyage - http://www.npr.org/2012/03/10/148375398/famed-uss-enterprise-takes-its-final-voyage
 
 
 


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Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: March 12 2012 at 10:45am
I've been on the USS Enterprise before, it is an awesome ship!


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 17 2012 at 4:23pm
The Navy Is Sending Everything It Needs For A War With Iran To The Strait Of Hormuz
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Mine countermeasure ship: USS Warrior

The global signs of a coming military http://www.businessinsider.com/5-signs-that-a-war-in-iran-is-close-2012-3 - , and today the U.S. Navy made clear its intentions by announcing it's sending four additional http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=1900&ct=4 - to the Strait of Hormuz.
 

http://www.stripes.com/news/navy/navy-to-send-more-mine-counter-ships-to-persian-gulf-region-1.171773 - the Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he's sending the mine ships in addition to four airborne mine countermeasure helicopters.

Iran has already warned that one of its first steps in closing the Strait of Hormuz, and choking off 40 percent of the world's oil supply, will be to mine the strait and deploy its fleet of small electronic submarines.

Greenert was recently aboard the USS John C. Stennis when it was http://www.businessinsider.com/bi-iran-suicide-boats-uss-abraham-strait-of-hormuz-2012-2 - by the Iranians and came away from that ride thinking "[W]e could do better setting the theater. I wanted to be sure ... that we are ready..."

To get "ready" Greenert is also bringing upgrades to mine neutralization vehicles, submarine torpedoes, optics, and weapons to counter the swarm maneuvers employed by the Iranian navy.

This move will double the number of minesweepers in the Persian Gulf, but Greenert declined to call the deployments a surge, as when forces are built up for a planned operation, instead telling reporters: "I'm not going to define it as a surge. You called it a deployment, how's that"

The four ships, the Sentry, Devastator, Pioneer, and Warrior will join the Navy's Fifth Fleet in Bahrain from San Diego. Their departure date has not yet been announced, as part of operational security.

They will likely be transported by the Navy's heavy-lift ships which travel at about 16 mph.


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-navy-is-getting-its-forces-ready-for-iran-in-the-strait-of-hormuz-2012-3 - http://www.businessinsider.com/the-navy-is-getting-its-forces-ready-for-iran-in-the-strait-of-hormuz-2012-3


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 2:08pm

Former Minister: Iran to Close Strait of Hormoz if Threatened

TEHRAN (FNA)- Former Iranian intelligence minister Ali Fallahian underlined the strategic significance of the Strait of Hormoz for Iran's defensive power, and repeated the country's earlier warnings that it would cut off the world oil lifeline if it is threatened militarily.


 
 
Fallahian warned Western countries not to underestimate Iran's ability to close the strategic Strait of Hormuz in reaction to the West's escalating pressures.

Reacting to reports about the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) decision to discontinue offering service to the Iranian banks, Fallahian said on Saturday that closing SWIFT to Iran is "like closing international waterways".

"If the United States or Europe considers it its right to ignore international laws to meet its own interests, Iran may also decide to respond in kind wherever possible," he added.

Israel and its close ally the United States have recently intensified their war rhetoric against Iran. The two arch foes of the Islamic Republic accuse Iran of seeking a nuclear weapon, while they have never presented any corroborative document to substantiate their allegations. Both Washington and Tel Aviv possess advanced weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear warheads.

Iran vehemently denies the charges, insisting that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only. Tehran stresses that the country has always pursued a civilian path to provide power to the growing number of Iranian population, whose fossil fuel would eventually run dry.

Iran has, in return, warned that it would target Israel and its worldwide interests in case it comes under attack by the Tel Aviv.

The United States has long stressed that military action is a main option for the White House to deter Iran's progress in the field of nuclear technology.

Iran has warned that in case of an attack by either the US or Israel, it will target 32 American bases in the Middle East and close the strategic Strait of Hormuz.

An estimated 40 percent of the world's oil supply passes through the waterway.
 
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9012152629 - http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9012152629
 


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Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 11:27am
US Military (Pentagon) war game scenario (Israel Air Strike) is leaked.
 
http://rt.com/news/israel-iran-war-exercise-990/ - http://rt.com/news/israel-iran-war-exercise-990/
 
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/pentagon-war-game-forecasts-u-pulled-war-israel-151532986.html - http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/pentagon-war-game-forecasts-u-pulled-war-israel-151532986.html
 


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Posted By: TipKat
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 2:26pm
Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

US Military (Pentagon) war game scenario (Israel Air Strike) is leaked.
 
http://rt.com/news/israel-iran-war-exercise-990/ - http://rt.com/news/israel-iran-war-exercise-990/
 
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/pentagon-war-game-forecasts-u-pulled-war-israel-151532986.html - http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/pentagon-war-game-forecasts-u-pulled-war-israel-151532986.html
 
Hi Mahshadin, I read this one yesterday...thank you for posting it.  Pretty sobering info indeed.  To think that more American military lives would be lost in this type of engagement is sad.  thanks again for posting. Tip


Posted By: Mahshadin
Date Posted: June 27 2012 at 8:41am
"Netanyahu has Decided to Attack Iran Before the U.S. Elections in November"
 
 
By Michael Carmichael June 25, 2012 http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31574 - Senior Israeli officials now confirm that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has, "decided to attack Iran before the U.S. elections in November."

Netanyahu's agenda is much broader than knocking out Iranian nuclear installations for his aim is to reshape the political landscape in the USA and Israel shifting everything to the far, far right in order to create a new comfort zone for religious fundamentalists.

Netanyahu's major backer, Sheldon Adelson, is now firmly behind Mitt Romney, and they are known to believe that an Israeli attack on Iran in September or October will displace Obama and many dovish Democrats in Congress and establish a hawkish regime in Washington.

Israel has agreed to restrain any attack on Iran until after the current round of five talks between Iran and the P5+1 that will come to an end in either late July or August:

"U.S., Israel continue preparations for strike on Iran nuclear facilities.

The website cites U.S. defense contracts and Israel's new military preparations, suggesting that 'all sides are getting ready for whatever may come.'

Israel and the U.S. are pushing forward with preparations to jointly strike Iran's nuclear facilities, the U.S. blog Business Insider reported on Saturday.

"U.S. defense contracts, an Iranian F-16 acquisition, and Israel's new military preparations suggest that all sides are getting ready for whatever may come," the report says.

According to the blog, the U.S navy has recently signed a $338 million contract with defense contractor Raytheon to "provide the Navy with 361 Tomahawk cruise missiles in their most recent configuration. According to the website, the U.S. is either renewing its stock of missiles or planning ahead.

"On May 9," the report added, "the U.S. House of Representatives passed the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012, which seeks to "reaffirm the commitment to Israel's security as a Jewish state; provide Israel with the military capabilities to defend itself by itself against any threats... [and] expand military and civilian cooperation."

A senior Israeli official recently told Reuters that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has decided to attack Iran before the U.S. elections in November." ( http://hamsayeh.net/middle-east/1943-qnetanyahu-has-decided-to-attack-iran-before-the-us-elections-in-novemberq.html#.T-bOAVB5GQE.email - , emphasis added)

Military experts have long agreed that the "sweet spot" for an Israeli attack on Iran will be this coming September or October precisely because of the timing of the US presidential election cycle.

For maximum political impact and minimal diplomatic responsiveness, the time of the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, NC - September 3-6 comes within this window of opportunity as well as the days immediately prior to the US election - say from Halloween till the 6th of November.

It may be instructive to recall that Israel's Operation Cast Lead was timed to coincide with the transition between Obama and Bush and ended abruptly immediately before the Inauguration in January 2009.

Presidential election cycles have played major roles in the design of military timetables. For only one example, recall the Tet Offensive in early 1968 that drove LBJ out of the race for the White House.

Last Updated on Monday, 25 June 2012 21:29
 
http://hamsayeh.net/middle-east/1943-qnetanyahu-has-decided-to-attack-iran-before-the-us-elections-in-novemberq.html - http://hamsayeh.net/middle-east/1943-qnetanyahu-has-decided-to-attack-iran-before-the-us-elections-in-novemberq.html
 


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