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Relenza and Tamiflu Together

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Topic: Relenza and Tamiflu Together
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Relenza and Tamiflu Together
Date Posted: January 04 2014 at 6:18pm
Ok so why do we not use both of these antivirals together on really sick people. One is inhaled and one digested.   Of course I am no doctor but if I had both available and one of my family was really sick I would ask the Doctor for both.

Any one out there tell me why this in NOT a good idea!


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Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: January 04 2014 at 8:22pm
For people with respiratory problems, Relenza is said to possibly exacerbate the problem. So like asthma, COPD, etc should probably have their inhalers nearby just in case problems occur.


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Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v

Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 04 2014 at 9:11pm
Hachi, I am talking about people who are basically healthy. There is now a 21 yr old woman in Chicago who has died from H1N1...pneumonia on top of the flu and a 5 yr old who had died in I think Washington state.

If people could get both of these antivirals would it have made a difference?

Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: January 04 2014 at 11:19pm
Ah good question, well the five year old could only use Relenza if preventing the flu, but it is used in ages seven and older for treating it (not sure why its an older age then), it also has the two day symptom limit, but I am not sure if you could combine them or not. In Sacramento County, at UC Davis Medical Center, they have a two year old and a twelve year old in the ICU due to flu complications as well as those aged 36-65. Seems there was an older study about it (found it after typing the top part lol), it's about three years old. It believed that using Tamiflu alone was better than dual therapy, but I wonder, if it's becoming resistant, would Relenza be better alone, than being combined, like how Tamiflu used to be?

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2010/11/study-tamiflu-alone-beats-dual-therapy-treating-flu%20 - http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2010/11/study-tamiflu-alone-beats-dual-therapy-treating-flu


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Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v

Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 8:15am
Relenza (aka Zanamirvir) is used for a lot longer than just the first few days same with Tamiflu. They are using them on patients who are well into the virus. I heard that relenza is being trialed via IV (normally its an inhaled powder). The FDA gave special approval for IV delivery. 

I see this as quite a radical step by the FDA. It indicates to me that doctors have many un-treatable patients.

I also heard that there is infact a deadly strain of H1N1 circulating. Its called pH1N1 its Tamiflu resistant. Medico have been told of how to treat. They are now going straight to Relenza. 

So as many of us here suspected. There is the normal H1N1 flu which most cases are, but there is also this more virulent strain also out there. So far its been confirmed in Texas and California. Its more wide spread. These are just the confirmed cases.

The scary thing is the normal H1N1 is most likely masking the more deadly strain.

Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 11:11pm
Cobbler I think some of this H1N1 is really bad like you said that is why I am wondering why they don't double up with both of these antivirals. Tamiflu resistant still may somewhat work if used with Relenza.   I have crazy ideas that are sometimes used years after.

I had the idea of an auger for clearing clogged arteries and now they do it. I had the idea 10 years before they developed it. I am sure I was not the only one with this idea but I have crazy ideas that seem to work out.


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