Nurse in Madrid tests positive for Ebola
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Topic: Nurse in Madrid tests positive for Ebola
Posted By: waterboy
Subject: Nurse in Madrid tests positive for Ebola
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 9:39am
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Found post on Ebolainfo.org A nurse tests positive for Ebola Madrid in the first analysis She attended Viejo Manuel García. Health wait a second test to confirm ELISA SILIO / EMILIO DE BENITO MADRID 6 OCT 2014 - 18:23 CEST4 Spanish A nursing assistant may be the first case of Ebola infection outside Africa. The health was part of the team that attended the missionary Manuel García Viejo, who died of Ebola on 26 September at the hospital Carlos III de Madrid (currently seconded to La Paz). She was the one who went to the hospital when he felt Alcorcón fever. The first analysis conducted has tested positive. Now the Ministry of Health, whose crisis cabinet is assembled, awaiting confirmation of a second test. If confirmed, this will be the third case of Ebola fallecieron- treated in Spain-the first two and the first in which the patient is not repatriated from Africa or is treated in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid. The capital has already activated the protocol in September when a Brazilian disturbing symptoms presented in the Southern Bus Station. The patient was admitted in the morning with a high fever. So the hospital activated the protocol before a possible case of Ebola and is isolated in the emergency room. Died August 12 religious Miguel Pajares and 13 days old Manuel Garcia, 69, clinical director of the hospital Lunsar. Both were members of the Order of St. John of God. The deaths from the virus now total 3,338, according to the latest official count of the World Health Organization (WHO), dated October 1. The affected countries, with 7,178 infections registered in total, Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal and Sierra Leone. Liberia and slashing 2,000 deaths (1,998 in total). Although WHO recognizes that the calculations may be underestimated. So far, all cases of Ebola were infected in Africa. Remains whether the Liberian entered Texas has infected someone during the time it took to be admitted to hospital after he sent home the first time. Until this is confirmed, it would be the first non-African Ebola case. |
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Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 9:47am
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Thanks waterboy, I'm questioning this one, and I doubt it. There is another forum that is big on posting translated news, and I'm assuming this was translated to English, but those translations are seldom legit, and I mean very seldom. Certain sites and their translations have been doing this for years with a terrible success ratio. I would say this story is not true - Is my personal guess. I've been wrong before in the past, I think.  ------------- https://www.facebook.com/Avianflutalk |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 9:56am
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6 October 2014 at 5:37pm Report: Spanish nurse tests positive for Ebola virus A Spanish nurse who treated an Ebola victim in Madrid has tested positive for the virus in an initial test, according to media reports. Authorities are said to be awaiting final results. Last updated Mon 6 Oct 2014 http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-10-06/report-spanish-nurse-tests-positive-for-ebola-virus/ |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 9:58am
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Spanish nurse being tested for Ebola contracted in Madrid - media Source: Reuters - Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:48 GMT Author: Reuters MADRID, Oct 6 (Reuters) - A Spanish nurse who treated a priest in Madrid who died of Ebola is suspected to be the first case of the disease contracted outside West Africa, media in Spain reported on Monday, citing sources within the country's health authorities. Spanish newspaper El Pais and radio Cadena Ser were among those who said the nurse had tested positive for Ebola in initial tests and officials were awaiting final results. No one was immediately available in Madrid's health department to confirm the reports. (Reporting By Emma Pinedo, writing by Sarah Morris; Editing by Julien Toyer) http://www.trust.org/item/20141006164823-ejes2 Spanish nurse being tested for Ebola contracted in Madrid - media By Reuters Published: 11:48 EST, 6 October 2014 | Updated: 11:48 EST, 6 October 2014 Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-2782598/Spanish-nurse-tested-Ebola-contracted-Madrid--media.html#ixzz3FNw8F7Xk Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Here's another story http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-2782598/Spanish-nurse-tested-Ebola-contracted-Madrid--media.html Here's another link http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2659748/pg1 Found just now on breakingnews.com Spanish nurse who treated Ebola victim in Madrid tests positive for disease in initial tests; authorities awaiting final results - @Reuters End of alert |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:01am
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We better wait for the "final results". How convenient. ------------- https://www.facebook.com/Avianflutalk |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:23am
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It's confirmed after second analysis http://elpais.com/ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:29am
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Final result positive www.elmundo.es/madrid/2014/10/06/5432bb62e2704e347a8b4577.html |
Posted By: coyote
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:36am
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Hey A..Looks Legit. Getting real close to level 5 I'm afraid.. ------------- Long time lurker since day one to Member. |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:40am
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Yes coyote, looking legit. Are there any reputable English sources to this yet? Fairly significant news, and possibly very bad news. ------------- https://www.facebook.com/Avianflutalk |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:48am
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Albert, I'm from Spain, those are reputable spanish newspapers, it's absolutely confirmed At 20:00 press conference from Spanish Health Ministry |
Posted By: onefluover
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:53am
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It's on Drudge. ------------- "And then there were none." |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:54am
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Thank you Zimm. I believe it my friend. Probably bad news. Please keep us posted. Hope you all do better than us and our cdc. ------------- https://www.facebook.com/Avianflutalk |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:22am
| http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920 |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:40am
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Thanks for the post "momma". This confirms first patient outside Africa to contract Ebola. I'm sure she took strict precautions but it didn't work. Makes things really scarry. I also believe we will see more cases in Dallas within a week? I hope I'm wrong though.... |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:43am
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Just found this on breakingnews.com Spain says a Madrid hospital nurse has tested positive for Ebola; emergency protocol put into place - @Reuters, @AP End of alert |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:45am
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NBC now reporting... http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/spanish-nurse-first-person-contract-ebola-outside-africa-n219581 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:50am
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She had fever since sept 30th but only today went to the hospital, she was on vacation since the patient she looked after died... |
Posted By: Johnray1
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:51am
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waterboy,this time I agree with you about Dallas.Johnray1 |
Posted By: coyote
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:56am
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Another nurse from Madrid tested for Ebola this afternoon... [link to www.eldiario.es] ------------- Long time lurker since day one to Member. |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:57am
Wow. Does that buck the trend? If she had fever since the 30th Sept but only went to the hospital on the 6th Oct, that's 7 days of being actively contagious. Where did she go on holiday? Don't tell me she has been travelling by public transport around Spain to see the sights! LOL. Is it normal for Ebola patients to have a fever for so long before they feel the need to get treatment. I thought they developed a fever, then almost immediately were stricken with other awful symptoms. I wonder if she is fighting it off? ------------- Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. |
Zimm wrote:Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 12:07pm
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Spanish health official: 30 health workers who attended Spanish Ebola priests are being monitored - @Reuters End of alert |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 1:02pm
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so now they are focused on 30 nurses related to the preist and the question is.. are they forgetting that the first nurse was outside 10 days and the latest 7 days moving around with simptoms? how many unknown contacts could she had in all this time... we are getting back to the sindrome.. oh i am i health care personel... "it cannot happen to me .. it is just a flu or a cold".. this very stupid way of denial will bring the most of humans that will get it to the grave.. and their closest relations. And if this nurse who still tried not to get infected managed to get it.. just think what the chances are in the case of the family in dallas and to all those relatives and secondary contacts.. wellcome ebola in the first world.. you wil do many many things here... as the most humans are much to stupid.....
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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 1:05pm
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 1:06pm
| oh.. and we just moved to madrid... 3.2 milions.... and a very touristic place in Europe... every european likes it in madrid... just a perfect storm coming up.... |
Posted By: drumfish
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 1:26pm
| I remember seeing pictures on one of those whacked out web sites showing removing patient from airplane with Ebola in Spain and they were pointing out in the photos how they were obvious fails in ppe and isolation. Now a nurse is sick. To make it better the nurse was running around for days with a fever. When you couple this with Dallas the situation is laughable. |
Posted By: Lsu2001
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 1:28pm
Ok, so we have a health care worker on a modern country, catch the disease from a known Ebola patient. I would assume that she was highly trained in proper infection control because she was selected for the team. It would be nice to know exactly how she was exposed and became infected. Did she screw up protocol somehow? Was there some incident that wasn't reported? Or, is the virus spreading in such a way that negates the assumptions that control measures and treatment protocols are based on? With her having a fever for 7 days before isolation, how many secondary contacts exist? To put it military terms this is a Charlie Foxtrot of the highest order Tim ------------- The Greatest Threat to the Continued domination of man is the virus |
Posted By: drumfish
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 1:42pm
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Paraphrased from another discussion. ( Oh but strict isolation in modern world will take care of all this. We will learn so much by bringing people infected with ebola here and allowing modern drs in modern hospitals to study this and there is just practically no risk. ) So the smartest people in the room begin to fail. Problem is their arrogance and failures affect the rest of us. |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 2:37pm
Ebola outbreak: Nurse infected in Spain Manuel Garcia Viejo was transferred to Spain from Sierra Leone but died days later http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920#story_continues_1 - Continue reading the main story http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28754546 - Ebola outbreak
Spanish Health Minister Ana Mato has confirmed that a nurse who treated two victims of Ebola in Madrid has tested positive for the disease. The nurse is said to be the first person in the current outbreak known to have contracted Ebola outside Africa. The woman was part of the team that treated Spanish priests Manuel Garcia Viejo and Miguel Pajares, who both died of the virus, officials say. Some 3,400 people have died in the outbreak - mostly in West Africa. Meanwhile US President Barack Obama has said the White House is considering extra screening at US airports for people arriving from the worst-affected countries in West Africa. He said the chances for an Ebola outbreak in the US were extremely low, but vowed to step up the pressure on larger countries to help with efforts to contain the disease. It comes as the US tries to limit the spread from its first confirmed case, a Liberian in Dallas. High feverThe Spanish nurse is in a stable condition, Ms Mato said. She started to feel ill last week when she was on holiday.  Manuel Garcia Viejo, seen in a file photo, was the second Spanish priest to be repatriated from Africa with EbolaThe nurse was admitted to hospital in Alcorcon, near Madrid, on Monday morning with a high fever, she said. "Both the health ministry and public health authorities are working together to give the best care to the patient and to guarantee the safety of all citizens," the minister told a news conference. Manuel Garcia Viejo, 69, died in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid on 25 September after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone. Miguel Pajares, 75, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia. Experimental drugEbola spreads through contact with the bodily fluids of someone who has the virus and the only way to stop an outbreak is to isolate those who are infected. There have been nearly 7,500 confirmed infections worldwide, with officials saying the figure is likely to be much higher in reality. Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia have been hardest hit. Thomas Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the US, is being treated at a Dallas hospital in isolation. He caught the virus in his native Liberia. Mr Duncan's condition is critical but stable, doctors said on Monday. He has been given Brincidofovir, a new experimental drug for treating Ebola which was developed in North Carolina.  ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 3:35pm
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I missed the memo on them treating a previous Ebola patient. I remember the first Spanish priest who died, and the suspected nurse, but never heard anything more about it. I wasn't aware they were treating another case. Did they evacuate him to Madrid for treatment, and I missed it? Or is there an outbreak going on? Where did priest #2 come from? ------------- https://www.facebook.com/Avianflutalk |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 3:48pm
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My other question would be why do they have 30 healthcare workers under observation? Usually there's several personal contacts for every one healthcare worker. And I thought Dallas was going to be bad.... Maybe not though and let's see. ------------- https://www.facebook.com/Avianflutalk |
Posted By: LCfromFL
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 4:30pm
Coyote - is this the same nurse? Or a 2nd one? Unfortunately I do not speak/read Spanish so I can't figure this out. My daughter is a nurse - and her husband a First Responder - so these types of stories always worry me. |
Posted By: drumfish
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 4:47pm
| What's that 3 victims 30 health care workers in quarantine. 10 per patient. Hard to sustain those kind of numbers for long. |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 8:01pm
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Where did she go on holiday? ------------- Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 8:27pm
Disneyworld Orlando Florida |
Posted By: drumfish
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 8:28pm
| Tell me that's a joke? |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 8:30pm
Yes |
Posted By: Jen147
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 8:33pm
   Uh... you had me scared there for a minute!
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Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 06 2014 at 8:41pm
Sorry... |
Posted By: pheasant
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 3:16am
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Just an observation, (1) She started a fever on the 30th, and continued on her holiday. (2) She is just exhibiting fever for 5-6 days, no severe symptoms. She supposedly still is not "sickly". We discussed the possibility of "carriers" (people who are infectious but not sick). Would she not qualify as a carrier? Supposedly once some one becomes sick they are too debilitated to travel, function normally or hide their symptoms. We had a discussion on this issue on one of the threads, and the best science, and information available said this was not possible or almost impossible...did we not? This case poses an incalculable risk, less from what it is, but far more risk for what the case poses for transmission implications. ------------- The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself......FDR |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 7:38am
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were fckd “We’re drawing up a list of all the people she may have been in contact with, including with health professionals at the Alcorcón hospital where she is being treated,” Alemany said Monday. So far there are at least 34 known people at risk of contracting the disease from her, including her husband, 30 people who work in or were patients at the Carlos III hospital and three who treated her at the Alcorcón clinic. In the 24 hours before the nurse was officially diagnosed and in the five days that she felt unwell with fever, she had used public transportation, frequented bars, restaurants and supermarkets, and spent time with friends. Many of the people she came in contact with while she was feverish and potentially contagious are virtually impossible to identify. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 7:51am
| and all just because of a very stupid "brilliant " ideea of lets bring them hom.. everywhere.. germanay, spain, usa and so on.... good job sirs... now we see the next level.... |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 7:56am
| More cases of Ebola will almost inevitably spread in Europe, but the continent is well prepared to control the disease, World Health Organization's regional director says - @Reuters |
Posted By: Jen147
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 9:12am
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I just don't get it... how does someone in her position not suspect ebola. It had to have crossed her mind, it had to. |
Posted By: debg
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 9:41am
I just read somewhere (sorry, I didn't copy the article) that she was actually begging them to test for Ebola - that they did not want to bother testing her for that. Now granted, she sure as crap should not have been hanging out on vacation somewhere feeling like that and knowing she may have had Ebola, but she did at least insist on the test when she FINALLY went to the hospital....
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Posted By: Jen147
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 10:09am
| Ok thanks deb. Maybe I'm just a hypochondriac.. but if I were a nurse caring for an ebola patient. I would have isolated myself for 21 days after he died no matter what... but if I came down with a fever I would immediately suspect ebola. I would suspect ebola even if I were a nurse on the other side of the hospital & had never seen the guy. but that's just me. |
Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 11:56am
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End of Times headlines on FB reporting a second case in Madrid. No way to confirm at this point but health officials supposedly reported it to a local newspaper. ------------- NOW is the Season to Know that Everything you Do is Sacred |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 11:57am
Waterboy what makes you think that? Have you been to Europe? Europe is overpopulated and most countries have very well organised public transport systems. Ebola would be an absolute nightmare in Europe. In Spain, the people live like sardines. Many live in tiny apartments jammed together in the cities and rely on the public transport system. I stayed with a family once who lived in a shoebox sized apartment, all 3 generations of them. I'd have thought Ebola would spread like mad there. ------------- Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. |
Posted By: waterboy
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 12:08pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ebola-outbreak-husband-of-spanish-nurse-placed-in-quarantine-as-22-contacts-identified-9779682.html Ebola outbreak: Spread of deadly disease across Europe is 'unavoidable', warns WHO chief The spread of Ebola across Europe is "quite unavoidable", a health chief has warned as four people were in hospital after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the virus outside Africa. The World Health Organisation's European director Zsuzsanna Jakab has said while more cases will spread in Europe, the continent should be well prepared to control the disease. Health officials in Spain today said four people - the nurse, her husband and two others - were being monitored in hospital in a bid to stem the spread of the virus. "Such imported cases and similar events as have happened in Spain will happen also in the future, most likely," Ms Jakab told Reuters. "It is quite unavoidable ... that such incidents will happen in the future because of the extensive travel both from Europe to the affected countries and the other way around," she said. Ms Jakab said European health workers were most at risk of becoming infected, but added that "the most important thing in our view is that Europe is still at low risk and that the western part of the European region particularly is the best prepared in the world to respond to viral haemorrhagic fevers including Ebola.” It has emerged that the nurse, who had helped treat two Spanish missionaries who died after returning from West Africa with the disease, first complained of feeling ill a week before she was diagnosed with Ebola on Monday. The 40-year-old is understood to have contacted health workers after complaining of a low fever on September 30. She was only given tests for Ebola however when she turned up at hospital with a high fever on Monday, The Telegraph has reported. Spanish Ebola patient, Catholic priest Manuel Garcia Viejo, died after being repatriated from Sierra Leone on 22 September 2014 Spanish Ebola patient, Catholic priest Manuel Garcia Viejo, died after being repatriated from Sierra Leone on 22 September 2014 Meanwhile, 22 people who came into contact with the nurse are also being monitored, health officials have said. They have not been isolated but they are having their temperature taken twice a day to check for signs of infection. The EU has now asked Spain to explain how the nurse contracted the deadly disease, according to an AFP report. Public health director Mercedes Vinuesa told a parliamentary committee: “The husband is already in hospital and is being monitored so that he can have a quarantine situation with better monitoring.” The 40-year-old nurse, who has not been identified but is said to be in a stable condition, had up to 30 colleagues who also treated the missionaries who died of Ebola at the Carlos III Hospital in Madrid. A spokesman for the European Commission said the case, the first known case of Ebola spreading within a European country, would be discussed at a Health Security Committee meeting on Wednesday. “The priority remains to find out what actually happened,” he said. Officials said they were still investigating how the nurse was infected. She went on holiday after the second of the missionaries she had been caring for died on September 25, although, they stressed, she had not left Madrid. Jonathan Ball, a professor of molecular virology at the University of Nottingham, said the Spanish nurse should not have contracted the deadly disease if appropriate containment and control measures had been taken. “It will be crucial to find out what went wrong in this case so necessary measures can be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again,” he told Reuters. Local media in Spain yesterday reported that staff at the Madrid hospital where the nurse became infected had claimed their protective suits did not meet health and safety requirements – though this has yet to be substantiated. Additional reporting by Reuters |
Posted By: debg
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 12:36pm
I know - that's how everyone should be thinking and it is sad to see that other people don't give that a second thought. I would have been so paranoid after being around that priest that I don't think I would have left my house for 21 days, but unfortunately she didn't have that sense....
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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 4:05pm
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Reports claim Spain may have a second case of Ebola |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 4:26pm
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debg and Jen - I agree. I think I'd have to self quarantine if I thought there was a chance I was infected. I remember reading of a nurse in London that did that after looking after Spanish Flu patients. She was about to get on a train home when she realized that she didn't feel well and seemed to be running a fever. Instead of getting on the train, she went to a bed and breakfast, and that's where they found her body a few days later. She probably saved the lives of her family members with that one selfless act. ------------- "Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
Posted By: Jen147
Date Posted: October 07 2014 at 5:32pm
| Wow, powerful story JD. Wasn't there a Dr. that came back to the States & self quarantined without even showing any symptoms just as a precaution? |