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Is Illegal Immigration destroying America?

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Topic: Is Illegal Immigration destroying America?
Posted By: Medclinician
Subject: Is Illegal Immigration destroying America?
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 4:55pm
Immigration can promote development and growth - but allowing people in a country without screening them and being sure we are not allowing terrorists and criminals to stream across the borders can destroy it.  The refugees streaming into European nations - especially Sweden are turning what were quiet neighborhoods in war zones.

Can America - it's media and it's people start looking at issues instead of attacking people - and realize we must control our borders. Open and unlimited borders can destroy America.

What is the truth?  Is everyone who wants to control what is ruining whole states make them a racist?  More then 100,000 people were deported during the Obama administration and he stated we need to control our borders.

I would seem the press and the left take issue with everything without looking a serious problems which are ruing our job markets, our economy and turning large cities into battlegrounds heading towards all out Anarchy.

Anonymous posted this and I have other things up on Facebook - the question is - who is telling the truth? What is the real news? 

Medclinician




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"not if but when" the original Medclinician



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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 6:20pm
Overall I suspect everyone of untruths.  There are far too many vested interests, so everyone has a motive for lying.  I do not believe any politician could resist that temptation.

As far as illegal immigrants are concerned, it is impossible to count or regulate them.  Those who enter a country, unwanted by the administration of said country, are, by necessity, clandestine.  The upside of this is that they want a low profile and so usually avoid petty crime and most are just trying to find somewhere safe to live.  

If you want to find potential terrorists, look for someone with a grudge first, then look at the loonies and more importantly those manipulating the loonies for their own ends.

Talking of manipulating:  The bit about Sweden in Trump's speech was based on incorrect information (That is giving him the benefit of the doubt, he could have just made it up.) and the government of Sweden, who have seen no appreciable increase in terrorism, have demanded an explanation from him.

On the same subject, the Anonymous video said that international leaders were mad at Trump for suspending the Syrian refugee programme,  They may well be cross, but if they are they have not said so.  International diplomacy does not work that way.  What a mess!


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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 6:36pm
Ps.  As for "fake" news:  Most of that appears on Twitter and Facebook.  The term was coined originally by the mainstream press because such news is completely unregulated and so anything posted there is likely to remain even if completely fabricated.  The press are not the source of anything particularly ficitional.

McCain said recently: "The first thing that dictators do is shut down the press,” he said, adding that while he was not calling the president a dictator, “we need to learn the lessons of history.” - And he is a Republican.



The rest of McCain's viewpoint can be found here:    http:////www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-critic.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow - http:////www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-critic.html?_r=0




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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 10:05pm
I don't know what to think of Anonymous anymore....I used to consider it a fairly competent international collective that acted with some maturity, but this article blows my mind!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump_us_58ab6156e4b0a855d1d8dfe4?dvsfa5c8i3htwqaor&" rel="nofollow - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump_us_58ab6156e4b0a855d1d8dfe4?dvsfa5c8i3htwqaor&

Just for grins, go to the website they mention, 4chan.org and look around....I even posted as "anonymous" to see the responses I'd draw!!  Let's say I wasn't terribly impressed.  




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CRS, DrPH



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