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Topic: WAR
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: WAR
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 2:35am
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-us-creates-new-air-support-request-scheme-for-al-qaeda.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-us-creates-new-air-support-request-scheme-for-al-qaeda.html#more

Al-Qaeda and its sidekick Ahra al-Sham  https://twitter.com/Ali_Kourani/status/850158285432946688" rel="nofollow - welcomed  the U.S. strikes. The theocratic government of Saudi Arabia  https://twitter.com/EllenKnickmeyer/status/850208510197366784" rel="nofollow - offered  its full support as did its  https://twitter.com/ReutersUK/status/850220531705978881" rel="nofollow - British  creators.

The U.S. airstrike delivers a message to al-Qaeda. Whenever under military pressure al-Qaeda can now stage or fake a "chemical attack" and the U.S. will act to destroy its enemy, the Syrian government. Acts as the one last night are then direct military support by the U.S. on al-Qaeda's request.

A similar scheme had earlier been established  http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israel-cooperating-isis-al-qaeda-golan-heights-says-syrian-chief-negotiator-1555473" rel="nofollow - on  the Golan heights. Al-Qaeda, fighting against Syrian government positions, would launch a mortar round that would land within Israeli controlled territory. Israel would then launch artillery strikes against Syrian government positions because "the Syrian government is responsible for what happens in the area". Al-Qaeda then used the battle field advantage created by the Israeli strike. The scheme and the Israeli military "reasoning" was published several times in  http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-strikes-syrian-army-after-mortar-hits-golan-heights/" rel="nofollow - Israeli media :

A number of mortars have landed in Israeli territory as a result of spillover fighting over the last several years, raising fears among residents near the border.

The IDF often responds to fire that crosses into Israel by striking Syrian army posts.

Israel maintains a policy of holding Damascus responsible for all fire from Syria into Israel regardless of the source of the fire.

The U.S. administration has now established a similar mechanism, on a larger scale, of direct military U.S. support for al-Qaeda and the Islamic State in Syria.

The Trump presidency had been held hostage by unfounded allegation of "Russian interference" in the U.S. elections in support of the Trump candidacy. The air strikes on Syria might have been the ransom that was demanded for the release of the hostage. His opponents are  https://twitter.com/SamSacks/status/850166028738973696" rel="nofollow - now gushing  about him. The allegation of any Trump-Russia connections may now die down.

Yesterday major Democratic leaders in Congress supported strikes on Syria. Despite that they are also likely to attack Trump over them. The strikes are a "strong man" gamble. As Trump  https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/255784560904773633" rel="nofollow - said  when Obama ordered strikes such are a desperate move. Most parts of the State Department and the NSC were not consulted about them. The chances that these will "blow back" politically as well as strategically are high.

Open U.S.-Russian cooperation in Syria  http://tass.com/politics/939940" rel="nofollow - will now cease . U.S. planes in Syrian airspace are from now on constantly under imminent danger. There will also be some larger revenge against the U.S. for last night's strikes. Likely not in Syria but in Iraq, Afghanistan or at sea. A "message" will be send. The U.S. reaction to that "message" will be a decision over a much larger war.




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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 2:43am
Russian Foreign Ministry Statement on U.S. Military Action in Syria
April 7, 2017

he very presence of military personnel from the US and other countries in Syria without consent from the Syrian government or a UN Security Council mandate is an egregious and obvious violation of international law that cannot be justified. While previous initiatives of this kind were presented as efforts to combat terrorism, now they are clearly an act of aggression against a sovereign Syria. Actions undertaken by the US today inflict further damage to the Russia-US relations.

Russia has expressed on numerous occasions that it was ready to cooperate on resolving the most urgent issues the world is facing today, and that fighting international terrorism was a top priority. However, we will never agree to unsanctioned action against the legitimate Syrian government that has been waging an uncompromising war on international terrorism for a long time.
The US pretends that it does not understand obvious things, turning a blind eye to the use of chemical weapons in Iraq, officially confirmed by Baghdad. The US refuses to believe the evidence provided by certified documents confirming the use of chemical weapons by terrorists in Aleppo. In doing so, the US is abetting international terrorism and making it stronger. New WMD attacks can be expected.

There is no doubt that the military action by the US is an attempt to divert attention from the situation in Mosul, where the campaign carried out among others by US-led coalition has resulted in hundreds of civilian casualties and an escalating humanitarian disaster.

It is obvious that the cruise missile attack was prepared in advance. Any expert understands that Washington’s decision on air strikes predates the Idlib events, which simply served as a pretext for a show of force.

Russia suspends the Memorandum of Understanding on Prevention of Flight Safety Incidents in the course of operations in Syria signed with the US.

We call on the UN Security Council to hold an emergency meeting to discuss the latest developments.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 2:53am
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1041329.shtml" rel="nofollow - http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1041329.shtml (DJ:China's view)

The US military attack on Friday took place despite no definitive results from the investigation by an international organization, and was carried out in the absence of a UN Security Council resolution. The Trump administration wasted little time in striking its targets, marking a stark contrast with its predecessor. 

Trump's decision to attack the Assad government is a show of force from the US president. He wants to prove that he dares to do what Obama dared not. He wants to prove to the world that he is no "businessman president" and that he will use US military force without hesitation when he considers it necessary. 

US military action opens the door for other direct foreign military attacks on the Assad government, a signal that outside interference in Syria is rapidly escalating. Before today, Assad's forces had gained an obvious advantage in the civil war, but foreign military interference could spell an end to their dominance. 

The Middle East is poised to be the center of attention once again. Neither Russia nor Iran will remain silent on the attack nor sit idly by and accept the fallout. The Syrian civil war is entering a new phase. More refugees will flee the region and Europe may have to pay the price.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 2:58am
https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377

NO RUSSIA RESPONSE: THE BEST WORKING HYPOTHESIS

The small Russian Air Force contingent in Syria tested all their radars and carefully tracked those lumbering, telephone pole Tomahawks passing for missiles. Cost of the op for the Pentagon: around $93 million for 59 Tomahawks. Cost to the Russian military – in material losses; as it stands, zero. And probably no Russian casualties. Moscow will NOT show what the S-300 and S-400s can really do until the heavy s**t really hits the fan – if it does. And yes, it will be nasty. And the Pentagon knows it, thus the heads up.



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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 3:17am
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_143082.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_143082.htm

The Syrian regime bears the full responsibility for this development. NATO has consistently condemned Syria’s continued use of chemical weapons as a clear breach of international norms and agreements.

Any use of chemical weapons is unacceptable, cannot go unanswered, and those responsible must be held accountable. NATO considers the use of chemical weapons as a threat to international peace and security.

NATO supports all international efforts aimed at achieving peace and a political solution in Syria.



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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 3:51am
DJ: Israel does not want (pro)Iran forces near its borders. Does not want a Iran capable of possible nuclear weapon production. Saudi Arabia and Iran are almost at war with eachother-fighting eachother in proxywars in Syria, Iraq, Yemen. 

Even when the US would keep it at this attack on Syrian airfield(s) there is a serious danger of escalation from other parties involved. 

IS did attack Syrian Arab Army positions during the US attack. This may suggest knowledge in advance. 

"Rebelgroups" could stage attacks into Turkey, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon-hoping that the west would blame the Assad regime. 

Russia and Iran proberbly knew the US attack was coming (Russia proberbly was informed by the US and did inform Iran and Syria https://twitter.com/vkthakur/status/850293409038295040" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/vkthakur/status/850293409038295040 ). They choose to let it happen but will react in a way they choose. 

Russia, Iran and Syria consider all foreign uninvited forces inside Syria as invaders. An ultimatum demanding that those forces leave Syria is a possible reaction. Also "pointing air defense systems"at "uninvited aircraft" could be a reaction. 

Turkey, NATO, Jordan, Gulf States-have enough forces to crush the Syrian army and its allies. Russia and Iran will react in such a scenario.

This could be the start of a major conflict.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 9:58am
Fog of war, news that will not be confirmed; 

https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/850341713944203265" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/850341713944203265 "New Syrian Army (with US special forces) attacked by Russian/Syrian planes in Daraa-Syria. https://twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/850367533890891776" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/850367533890891776 Al-Balad Daraa. 

http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFR4N1HD011" rel="nofollow - http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFR4N1HD011 Medvedev-US one step away from clashing with Russian military. 

https://twitter.com/BTelawy/status/850286232890474497" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/BTelawy/status/850286232890474497 One of the cruise misiles landed in Tartous (were Russia has a navy base). 

DJ there will be a lot of things not getting the media. It will proberbly be unclear-for a while-how things develop.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 07 2017 at 10:00pm
https://www.rt.com/news/383991-us-probe-chemical-attack-russia/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/383991-us-probe-chemical-attack-russia/

As far as it get in (alternative) media nu further escalation yet in the Middle East. 

Israel or Saudi Arabia did not attack Iran or v.v.. No large scale Russian action in Syria on US backed forces. North Korea still did not do its nuclear test yet. 

In Yemen https://twitter.com/adammbaron/status/847894729291378688" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/adammbaron/status/847894729291378688 3th night of US airstrikes at al qaeda positions. 

DJ, I hope there will be no further escalation. Pres. Trump did change his Assad/Syria-story in one week. From accepting Assad as president to airstrikes-international that puts a lot of questionmarks on US-leadership.  

updates: (Superstation claiming that Syria did still have (Soviet ?) chemical weapons-or are the containers used for all kind of goods ? Russia is moving a navyship in between Syria and US navyships to shoot at further missiles. Also communication in Syria between the Russians and US stopped ?)

https://sputniknews.com/world/201704081052435258-us-syria-missile-strike/" rel="nofollow - https://sputniknews.com/world/201704081052435258-us-syria-missile-strike/

"The US is nurturing a plan of a full-scale intervention of Syria. Instead of establishing contacts with the legitimate Syrian government, Washington prefers violating international law and acting by force in favor of terrorist groups," he said.

Gurbuz also said that the ultimate goal of Washington’s policy in Syria is to establish a "puppet government," in order to pressure and control other sovereign states in the region.

"Their attempts to help establish a Kurdish entity on Iraqi and Syrian territories are also part of this plan. Thus, the missile strike in Syria is another step towards this goal," he concluded.

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3625" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3625

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3624" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3624

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3623" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3623

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-07/trumps-north-korea-options-place-nukes-south-korea-or-kill-kim-jong-un" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-07/trumps-north-korea-options-place-nukes-south-korea-or-kill-kim-jong-un



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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: cobber
Date Posted: April 08 2017 at 7:25am
Why the hell would Assad use chemical weapons on the eve of a historic peace deal?

He had basically won the war...


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 08 2017 at 1:26pm
@cobber, a possibility could be that Assad does not have full control over all those that are fighting "on his side". (Assad proberbly does not control the Russian, Iranian and Hezbollah forces but they know that Assad can ask them to leave-there is a sort of balance.)

I find the Russian story more plausible. What exactly took place is still unclear-for the most of us-but it is possible that 1-rebel held storage of chemical weapons was hit by bombing (but I think the US reply proberbly also is correct-when hit by a bomb the gas would burn) or 2 "moderate al quada rebels" (paid by Saudi Arabia, Turkey NATO) did release a mix of sarin and chloride gas during the bombardment. 

The rebels were losing the battle in the region-there were new peace talks planned. 

In 2013 sarin was transported from Libya-via Turkey to Syria. Seymour Hersh and others claim h.clinton, erdogan and several other "western leaders"(UK, France,Israel) knew it. That did not stop them blaming Assad for "his crime". 

The awfull thing is that IS exists because "the west" needed them against Assad, Iran and in a way against Russia and China. The spread of IS (fighters) suggests "logistic support" on an "international level" IS now is active from Nigeria, Ukraine, Yemen, Syria, Sinai, Libya, Iraq, Russia, China (Uyghurs), Indonesia, Philipines etc. 

Hitler worked for UK and France as an "observer" inside what later on would become the nazi-party. Those nazi's were financed by big corporations inside and outside Germany and their (royal) shareholders. The Bush-family, Henry Ford, several other US citizens helped hitler to get "to the top". The "international elite" did loose a lot of money during the Russian revolution in 1917 (everything became state-owned) so with hitler in power in 1933-and Germany responsible for putting Lenin in Russia (to end the eastern front by his revolution)- it was "pay back time". 

The "international elite" only did gain more power after the war-they did good bussiness. Eisenhower warned for the "Military Industrial Complex"-that "elite" has maybe even more power via Trump.

The Syria-war is just another oil-war with Exxon as a foreign secretary. These wars have nothing to do with human rights-every 10 minutes a Yemeni child dies thanks to the US/UK war in Yemen via Saudi Arabia-it is all about the money. 

That also goes for Putin/Gazprom, China, Iran have energy interests. So much for civilization....

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/08/turkey-developed-a-new-military-base-east-of-bzaa-syria-facing-saa-forces-probably-hisar-air-def-deployed/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/08/turkey-developed-a-new-military-base-east-of-bzaa-syria-facing-saa-forces-probably-hisar-air-def-deployed/ ,

https://www.rt.com/usa/384066-trump-in-letter-to-congress-on-syria/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/384066-trump-in-letter-to-congress-on-syria/

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3628" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3628  (=) http://www.debka.com/article/26004/US-Air-Force-to-quit-Incirlik-move-to-Syria-base" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26004/US-Air-Force-to-quit-Incirlik-move-to-Syria-base

US and Turkey opening new air-bases inside Syria.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/beginning-end-us-empire" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/beginning-end-us-empire

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/08/517253/Iran-Russia-Syria-Baqeri-Vasilevich-Gerasimov-Shamkhani-Nikolai-Patrushev" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/08/517253/Iran-Russia-Syria-Baqeri-Vasilevich-Gerasimov-Shamkhani-Nikolai-Patrushev

The west and the east are getting ready for "a big war".

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3608" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3608


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: April 08 2017 at 10:06pm
Hey, I just bought more iosat just in case the nutty fat kid in N. Korea can send a nuke to California. I just prep because I can't control what any leader of any country decides to do. Instead of trying to figure it out I just read the news and get'er done.

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Always Be Prepared


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 08 2017 at 10:41pm
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3630" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3630 US navy North Korea http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/04/09/asia-pacific/u-s-navy-carrier-strike-group-heads-toward-korean-peninsula-amid-rising-tensions/#.WOnMt7iLS3C" rel="nofollow - http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/04/09/asia-pacific/u-s-navy-carrier-strike-group-heads-toward-korean-peninsula-amid-rising-tensions/#.WOnMt7iLS3C

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3631" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3631 US tanks enter Syria from Jordan. (proberbly local after an IS attack on a FSA/(NATO) position). https://www.rt.com/news/384058-lavrov-tillerson-syria-us-strike-call/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384058-lavrov-tillerson-syria-us-strike-call/ US and Russia realize they need to talk.

https://www.rt.com/usa/384082-shadow-brokers-nsa-password-trump/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/384082-shadow-brokers-nsa-password-trump/ and https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3629" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3629

@Flu Mom, hope we can stay out of a (limited ?) nuclear war. Maybe something good can come out of these crises. Humanity has a choice; do we want to survive or are humans selfdestructive ?

https://robertscribbler.com/2017/04/08/an-armada-of-ice-bergs-has-just-invaded-the-north-atlantic/" rel="nofollow - https://robertscribbler.com/2017/04/08/an-armada-of-ice-bergs-has-just-invaded-the-north-atlantic/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_event" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_event Climate change may be escalating that much wars will be effected by it. http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS-025deg.WORLD-CED.WS10" rel="nofollow - http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS-025deg.WORLD-CED.WS10  and https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-arctic-ocean-is-becoming-more-like-the-atlantic-ocean/?WT.mc_id=SA_FB_ENGYSUS_NEWS" rel="nofollow - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-arctic-ocean-is-becoming-more-like-the-atlantic-ocean/?WT.mc_id=SA_FB_ENGYSUS_NEWS  and http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2017/04/gulf-stream-is-heating-up.html" rel="nofollow - http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2017/04/gulf-stream-is-heating-up.html


see also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1xfyP0ngXA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1xfyP0ngXA Israeli News Live (Russian S-300 and S-400 air defense not suiteble for low altitude strikes ?)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/former-cia-officer-intelligence-confirms-russian-account-syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/former-cia-officer-intelligence-confirms-russian-account-syria

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/us-sends-aircraft-carrier-toward-north-korea-response-recent-provocations" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/us-sends-aircraft-carrier-toward-north-korea-response-recent-provocations




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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 09 2017 at 8:43am
Long read http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/u-s-government-secretly-allied-americas-enemies.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/u-s-government-secretly-allied-americas-enemies.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-09/russia-iran-warn-trump-they-will-respond-force-if-syria-red-lines-crossed-again" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-09/russia-iran-warn-trump-they-will-respond-force-if-syria-red-lines-crossed-again (Eventhough some comments ask the question if there is such a thing as a "joint military operation room" ( https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-iran-hezbollah-military-leaders-release-joint-statement-threatens-u-s/" rel="nofollow - https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-iran-hezbollah-military-leaders-release-joint-statement-threatens-u-s/ ) and if Russia signed that statement. http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/09/russia-iran-vow-continued-military-support-for-assad/" rel="nofollow - http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/09/russia-iran-vow-continued-military-support-for-assad/

https://www.rt.com/usa/384112-trump-sanctions-russia-iran/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/384112-trump-sanctions-russia-iran/




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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: April 09 2017 at 11:21am
Regarding sanctions on Russia....if Trump turns on his boyfriend Putin, expect some nasty retaliation including release of the "whore pissing" video to the Western media.  

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CRS, DrPH


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: April 09 2017 at 12:18pm
That's right - I forgot about the video. I'm still wondering if this isn't an elaborate ruse to give the appearance that they're not working hand in glove. The "alleged" ties to Russia are hurting the Trump administration.

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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 09 2017 at 12:52pm
CRS,DrPH, jacksdad, I can only hope that the present crises are there to show "Trump an independent leader of "the free world". 

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3638" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3638 Putin cancels meeting with Tillerson

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3639" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3639 Tillerson claiming China in support of US action against North Korea (wishfull thinking) and https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/09/us-navy-strike-group-north-korea-peninsula-syria-missile-strike?CMP=twt_gu" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/09/us-navy-strike-group-north-korea-peninsula-syria-missile-strike?CMP=twt_gu

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/09/us-to-deploy-more-m142-himars-and-other-military-vehicles-into-syriairaq-transferred-via-c-5-aircraft/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/09/us-to-deploy-more-m142-himars-and-other-military-vehicles-into-syriairaq-transferred-via-c-5-aircraft/

https://sputniknews.com/politics/201704091052470870-us-russia-china-strategic-triangle/" rel="nofollow - https://sputniknews.com/politics/201704091052470870-us-russia-china-strategic-triangle/
(Trump has no clear foreign policy so forget about better US-China relationship)

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20318/Russia-Iran-Hizballah-set-up-joint-command-in-Syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20318/Russia-Iran-Hizballah-set-up-joint-command-in-Syria  

Both the crises in Syria/Middle East and Korea are escalating further. Talking between "leaders" seems to stop. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/trumps-khan-sheikoun-production.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/trumps-khan-sheikoun-production.html#more , 
http://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-taking-u-s-war-syria-avert-economic-disaster/226642/" rel="nofollow - http://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-taking-u-s-war-syria-avert-economic-disaster/226642/ , 
http://www.mintpressnews.com/russia-reports-discovery-rebel-held-chemical-weapons-site-idlib-gas-attack/226633/" rel="nofollow - http://www.mintpressnews.com/russia-reports-discovery-rebel-held-chemical-weapons-site-idlib-gas-attack/226633/





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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: April 09 2017 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

CRS,DrPH, jacksdad, I can only hope that the present crises are there to show "Trump an independent leader of "the free world". 

Dutch Josh, I make no assumptions about this situation.  Throwing some missiles at Assad was, in my opinion, perfectly justified (and something Obama should have pushed to do earlier).  

However, we do notice that it has changed the tone of the conversation in Washington DC - the House inquiry into Trump/Russia connections has suddenly been put on the back burner, and the news media are now chasing Syria and North Korea.  

Was this a ruse?  I think it was more likely a political calculation, and Trump's advisors have probably been looking for an opportunity to rattle sabers so Trump can look "presidential." 

Nobody knows what the hell is going on over here, I've never been so confused in my life!! 


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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 09 2017 at 1:32pm
Moon of Alabama has a story on how Trump is dealing with Syria. When Assad was behind any gas-attack on civilians I would welcome missiles on him-not on an airfield. But both in 2013 and 2017 I have serious doubts. 

I do not know what the goal was of firing missiles at that airfield. It was back working in a very short while. The outcome is that western aircraft can not fly over Syria any longer. 

Maybe the missiles were meant to send a message to North Korea-but they will not learn anything new from it-it only re-affirms their vision of the US. 

From other sources the impression I get is a powerstruggle in the White House etc. and that is bad news-it gives "others" the chance to do their own "thing". The US has no realistic foreign policy left.


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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: April 09 2017 at 8:05pm
Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

Moon of Alabama has a story on how Trump is dealing with Syria. When Assad was behind any gas-attack on civilians I would welcome missiles on him-not on an airfield. But both in 2013 and 2017 I have serious doubts. 

I do not know what the goal was of firing missiles at that airfield. It was back working in a very short while. The outcome is that western aircraft can not fly over Syria any longer. 

Maybe the missiles were meant to send a message to North Korea-but they will not learn anything new from it-it only re-affirms their vision of the US. 

From other sources the impression I get is a powerstruggle in the White House etc. and that is bad news-it gives "others" the chance to do their own "thing". The US has no realistic foreign policy left.

Good question!  This is an interesting article, I like the title referring to "killing a chicken to scare the monkeys!"  

https://townhall.com/columnists/helenraleigh/2017/04/09/trumps-foreign-policy-act-i-kill-a-chicken-to-scare-monkeys-n2310960" rel="nofollow - https://townhall.com/columnists/helenraleigh/2017/04/09/trumps-foreign-policy-act-i-kill-a-chicken-to-scare-monkeys-n2310960

One practical effect of lobbing ordnance at military targets is that their military "gets it," i.e. they know that, if we go all out, we can cream them badly, even without invading.  The Israelis are masters of this...they slapped Syria around a few times, and Syria has largely left them alone.  (these overflights shattered every bit of glass in Assad's palace from what I've read).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/28/AR2006062801353.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/28/AR2006062801353.html

Israeli warplanes flew over one of President Bashar al-Assad's palaces on Wednesday to warn Syria against supporting Palestinian militants who abducted an Israeli soldier, the Israeli army said.

Israeli media reports said four planes carried out the overflights at low altitude, early in the morning, and created several sonic booms.

An army spokeswoman said the planes flew over Assad's palace near the city of Latakia, "because the Syrian leadership supports and harbours terrorist leaders, among them Hamas, the kidnappers of the soldier".





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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 10 2017 at 12:44am
North Korea:

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/10/45/0401000000AEN20170410006500315F.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/10/45/0401000000AEN20170410006500315F.html  
China talks with South Korea about North Korean nuclear program.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/10/2/0401000000AEN20170410005400315F.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/10/2/0401000000AEN20170410005400315F.html
South Korea downplays chances for pre-emptive strike on North Korea.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/10/14/0401000000AEN20170410007800315F.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/10/14/0401000000AEN20170410007800315F.html
Nuclear test before new South Korean government.:"The possibility of North Korea pushing ahead with a nuclear test before the (85th) anniversary of the founding of the Korean People's Army on April 25 cannot be ruled out," Cheong said in a forum in Seoul.


Syria:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-09/isis-attacks-us-led-base-southern-syria-assad-said-use-white-phosphorus" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-09/isis-attacks-us-led-base-southern-syria-assad-said-use-white-phosphorus Qatar (IS sponsor) claiming Syria used white phosphorus (so the US should drop more bombs on Syria) The US has troops in the Jordan-Iraq border area-in west Jordan close to Israel, in  Israel and Lebanon, in Turkey/Northern Syria and in Raqqa. The US military is getting a grip on Syria-and Russia is not stopping that.
 
CRS,DrPH, I do not doubt that the US/NATO/Gulf States can crash Syria-but the problem is what then ? Another Iraq ? War with Iran ? War with Russia ? War with China ? We can not afford to be on that road-we have been there since 9/11-2001 (or maybe even since 1989/90 end of Soviet Union-Yugoslavia-wars). The "war-on-drugs" made the drugs-problem larger, the "war-on-terror" also made the world more unsafe. 



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 10 2017 at 4:24am
Syria:

DJ: I think the US strategy could be to allow Russia/Iran to have a no-fly zone over the part of Syria they control. The US will have a "strangle strategy" with their air-control in Turkey, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia. 

The US may not be in a hurry to get involved that much in fighting. Looking at history public support for a war vanishes when a lot of soldiers get killed. When Russia, Iran, Syria, Hizbollah want to fight IS this may be okay for the Trump-administration. It weakens Russia, Iran, Hizbollah, Syria, IS. (Tomahawks can be used to show strenght, willingness to go to war when needed. But like in World War-2 the main US"weapon" was the bull-dozer http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_vehicle_id_bulldozers_ww2.php" rel="nofollow - http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_vehicle_id_bulldozers_ww2.php to make airstrips now the presence in the area, the logistics to move even more weapons into the area-could do the job.)

After the fighting it may not matter who calls himself "leader of Syria". The surrounding countries are proberbly under US/NATO control. So Damascus may have to deal with the coming situation. 

I do not think Syria will bring "world war 3". Risks could come from Israel/Saudi Arabia attacking Iran,the Yemen-war moving into Saudi Arabia. Both Russia and the US proberbly do not want to start a major conflict over Syria. Russia may give up Syria when they can get the Ukraine ?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-10/putin-will-not-meet-tillerson-russia-confusion-grows-over-us-policy-toward-syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-10/putin-will-not-meet-tillerson-russia-confusion-grows-over-us-policy-toward-syria confusion as a strategy ?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-10/medias-missing-point-syria-empire-power-signaling" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-10/medias-missing-point-syria-empire-power-signaling

North Korea:

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/09/0401000000AEN20170409001000315.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/09/0401000000AEN20170409001000315.html

"North Korea resumes radio broadcast of encrypted numbers". If indeed China is willing to co-operate with the US-maybe even Russia getting on the table-enough pressure on PyongYang could stop North Korea from the road they are on. 

North Korea is a more difficult problem to solve then Syria. The US, China and Russia do want North Korea to stop developing Weapons of Mass Destruction. North Korea has everything to gain in better relations in the region. 



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 11 2017 at 10:20pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o40AQPfQsE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o40AQPfQsE Israeli News Live with some interesting items. Is China more an ally of the US (because of North Korea) than of Russia (Syria) ? DJ; I think China puts China interests first-when they can use the US in their plans they will try to-but there may be a double bottom, a trick. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l China will proberbly send in its troops when the US would attack North Korea to get as much control in that country as possible. (Russia also has a small borderline with North Korea-Russia and China seem to cooperate in many Asia-issues. Another note, if North Korea has small nuclear "suit case" bombs they would like to use against the US (or any other country) they may have had enough time to put those weapons in position. )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9MalZ5sT4A" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9MalZ5sT4A The US and China disagree on many issues. The South China Sea, with Japan/US drills in may, Philipines claiming islands in the South China Sea. China also has long term plans for a New Silk Road-they need Russia and Iran for those plans, for energy etc. 

In the Middle East Israel and Saudi Arabia are close to war with Iran with proxy wars in Syria, Lebanon, Yemen. Egypt has to deal with IS in Egypt,Libya and is doing deals with Russia. 

Assad has warned that further US attacks on Syria will be answered with Syrian missiles on Israel. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/putin-russia-has-learned-more-false-flag-strikes-are-being-prepared-damascus-region" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/putin-russia-has-learned-more-false-flag-strikes-are-being-prepared-damascus-region "Lies presented as a fact and repeated over and over again do not become reality-but they may look like it".

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3652" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3652 North Korea is having a mass evacuation of 25% of its capitol Pyong Yang population-supposed to be still preparing nuclear and ICBM/missile tests. 

Russia and China see IS as a (CIA-US) weapon ultimately against them. From Ukraine-Syria-South China Sea-North Korea in there opinion there is a frontline against them. Time will make able further reinforcements but still war may be very close.

http://defconwarningsystem.com/2017/04/12/defcon-warning-system-update-41117/" rel="nofollow - http://defconwarningsystem.com/2017/04/12/defcon-warning-system-update-41117/ defcon moved to 4.


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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 1:19am
http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20336/N-Korea-must-be-denuclearized-peacefully-China-s-Xi-tells-Trump" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20336/N-Korea-must-be-denuclearized-peacefully-China-s-Xi-tells-Trump

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20335/Moscow-boosting-naval-forces-in-Syrian-theater-following-US-strike" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20335/Moscow-boosting-naval-forces-in-Syrian-theater-following-US-strike

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20334/Trump-We%E2%80%99re-not-going-into-Syria-but-won%E2%80%99t-accept-gas-war" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20334/Trump-We%E2%80%99re-not-going-into-Syria-but-won%E2%80%99t-accept-gas-war

http://www.debka.com/article/26009/No-sign-Putin-seeks-to-cool-friction-with-US" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26009/No-sign-Putin-seeks-to-cool-friction-with-US

DJ: 

I would estimate the chances for a "major regional war" at 60/75% for the Middle East and East Asia. 

With a "major regional war" I mean Israel/Saudi Arabia/Gulf states against Iran. The present conflicts (already pretty large) in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, escalating to a full confrontation between two major groups of countries. 

What would complicate the Middle East situation:

-Pakistan having good relations with Saudi Arabia and China, also a nuclear weapon state having a border with Iran and Afghanistan. Pakistan already has troops in Saudi Arabia at the Yemen border. China has troops in Afghanistan at the Afghan/China border area. In the north Pakistan-India-China have a border dispute. 

The US could support an Israeli/Saudi airstrike at nuclear facilities in Iran. (Maybe claiming that there was a "nuclear accident in Iran"-trying to hide an attack.) A major escalation in Syria could push Israel to use nuclear weapons when the pressure is getting to high. 

-Turkey could use an escalation in the Middle East to occupy Kurdish border regions in Iraq and Syria-maybe even try to put it with Turkey (a safe zone for refugees). 

-Egypt is doing bussiness with the US, EU, UK, Russia. It is fighting IS inside their own country and Libya. IS could become a problem when they get to much power in Syria. 

-Russia is supporting Assad, has good relations with Iran. Is willing to sell a lot of weapons, info etc. to Iran in a further escalation but would try to avoid "global escalation" as much as possible. Invited to support Assad in Syria-with special forces, all kind of weapons (not yet nuclear weapons but able to use that kind of weapons from inside Russia).

-The US is making this war possible by supplying Israel, Saudi Arabia, Gulf States with weapons. Has troops in Iraq and Syria as "advisors", intelligence, special operations etc. Also has troops in Lebanon, Jordan, proberbly Israel, Saudi Arabia. A further escalation will get US troops involved.

-IS is loosing ground both in Syria and Iraq. IS is also involved in the Ukraine and Afghanistan. (In the Ukraine the Azov-regiment is made up of European neo-nazi's, IS may concist of Chechen, central Asia muslims with Russian pasports, Chinese Uyghurs). 

East Asia:

My estimate for North Korea is that there is 75-90% chance of military action. Could be a power take over by the Chinese. Maybe PyongYang would "invite" China to "play a role" to avoid US actions. 

With 80% of North Korean export going to China-and a stop on that trade-North Korea must feel Chinese pressure. China does not want NK nuclear tests close to its borders. China needs economic growth not war. 

Economic-wise North Korea is finished. NK leadership do know that. A war will not bring changes for the better. In South Korea there is a political crisis. Re-unification of the two Korea's is what both countries claim as a long term goal (they only disagree on how). 

The US THAAD-defense system, plans to station US nuclear weapons in South Korea, are not welcomed by China. Also ra-armament of Japan is seen as a problem (and not only by China). 

The South China Conflict could push China and North Korea closer together. Further escalation could also get Russia on their side. 

Small incidents with some "pushing" between Philiphine and Chinese soldiers on a South Chinasea island can blow up to a major conflict within hours. 

Will there be a "World War 3" this year ? The ingredients are there. But the will to go that far may not be there (yet) in Washington, Moscow and Bejing. Other countries could escalate present conflicts, start new conflicts. Things can go bad very fast. I would estimate the chance for WW3 at smaller than 50%. (Indicators are http://thebulletin.org/timeline" rel="nofollow - http://thebulletin.org/timeline , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock -also as mentioned http://defconwarningsystem.com/2017/04/12/defcon-warning-system-update-41117/" rel="nofollow - http://defconwarningsystem.com/2017/04/12/defcon-warning-system-update-41117/ can give argumented estimate.)

Still major wars will bring extreme sufferings for billions of people. WW1 saw "the Spanish Flu" as a (more deadly than World War 1 itself) "side effect". The H7N9 (or other illnesses) can become a global problem with large numbers of refugees, troop movements etc.




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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 1:34am
Since it is a good discription of the present situation:
http://defconwarningsystem.com/2017/04/12/defcon-warning-system-update-41117/" rel="nofollow - http://defconwarningsystem.com/2017/04/12/defcon-warning-system-update-41117/

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 7 P.M., Wednesday, April 11th, 2017. Condition code is Blue. DEFCON 4.

There are currently no imminent nuclear threats against the United States at this time, however there are events occurring in the world theater which require closer monitoring

Tensions in the Korean theater have risen to a difficult point.  North Korea, while normally belligerent, is beginning to show signs of being backed into a corner.  This is coupled with a more aggressive posture by the United States, and U.S. allies beginning to accept the idea of a ~preemptive strike on North Korea.  Additionally, the United States has sent a strike group to Korea in a show of force.  Any reasonable nation would suspect an imminent attack, and this may cause North Korea to react.  A preemptive strike by the United States, while unlikely, can not be ruled out at this time.

The signal-to-noise ratio coming out of the Korean theater is very high, and discerning what is real, what is disinformation, and what is hyperbole, is becoming difficult.

In the event of hostilities, the probability of a nuclear attack on the United States is low, but should not be dismissed entirely.  While some analysts do not believe North Korea has the ability to strike the United States directly, others (including The DEFCON Warning System) do believe the possibility exists.  While North Korea can not strike with accuracy, it is believe they do have the ability to at least reach the United States.  It is also possible to strike ports as well as deliver a nuclear device over a land route, though the U.S. border is more secure than it has been recently.

While recent U.S. action in Syria has caused relations between the United States and Russia to suffer, our analysis of the situation is that this was a one-off event and will have no significant repercussions at this time, though Syria has stepped up its interventions and has warned of further incursions.

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For immediate updates, go to  http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/" rel="nofollow - www.defconwarningsystem.com  . Breaking news and important information can be found on the DEFCON Warning System message board and on the DEFCON Twitter feed DEFCONWSAlerts. You may also subscribe to the You Tube channel DEFCON Warning System and the DEFCON Warning System mailing list. Note that Twitter and You Tube updates may be subject to delays. The next scheduled update is 6 P.M. Pacific Time, May 2nd, 2017. Additional updates will be made as the situation warrants, with more frequent updates at higher alert levels.

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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 9:36pm
North Korea,

http://38north.org/2017/04/punggyeri041217/" rel="nofollow - http://38north.org/2017/04/punggyeri041217/ , http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/north-korea-said-have-placed-nuclear-device-tunnel-could-be-detonated-satuday-mornin" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/north-korea-said-have-placed-nuclear-device-tunnel-could-be-detonated-satuday-mornin

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/visualizing-koreas-north-south-military-divide" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/visualizing-koreas-north-south-military-divide
https://already-happened.com/2017/04/12/today-us-enhances-combat-readiness-at-kadena-air-base-japan-20x-f-15-eagles-some-e-3-kc-135-hh-60/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/12/today-us-enhances-combat-readiness-at-kadena-air-base-japan-20x-f-15-eagles-some-e-3-kc-135-hh-60/

https://www.rt.com/news/384554-us-armada-china-korea-menace/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384554-us-armada-china-korea-menace/

DJ: When the US or China aim is to stop this NK nuclear test action must be taken before saterday (13 hrs North Korea=7hrs Moscow=04hrs UK=00hrs DC-so if the NK test is expected at 6 AM NK saterday april 15 it is 17 hrs friday in Washington DC)

Both the US and China do not want the nuclear test but for different reasons (US considers NK as a threath for Japan, US, China wants "good relations" is afraid of earthquakes, radiation, refugees.). A US strike proberbly will be answered by NK attacking South Korea, Japan and "NK trying to do maximum damage elsewere". When the threat becomes reality nothing is stopping China for moving into North Korea. (Russia and China most likely will cooperate https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3657" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3657 . The NK testsite is 400 km from the NK-Russia border, 120 km from the NK-China border. 

Syria;

https://www.rt.com/news/384524-lavrov-tillerson-news-conference/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384524-lavrov-tillerson-news-conference/ DJ; it is good news Tillerson did see Putin. https://www.rt.com/news/384534-un-resulution-syria-chemical/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384534-un-resulution-syria-chemical/ . 

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960123001090" rel="nofollow - http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960123001090 The US cruisemissiles could not be as effective as the US want them to be. 

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/white-house-intelligence-assessment-is-no-such-thing-but-shows-support-for-al-qaeda.html#comments" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/white-house-intelligence-assessment-is-no-such-thing-but-shows-support-for-al-qaeda.html#comments Does the US have any realistic plans for Syria ?




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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 14 2017 at 1:25am
https://www.superstation95.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/ , https://israelinewslive.org/" rel="nofollow - https://israelinewslive.org/ are moving into "warmode". 

Would the MOAB (=not: Mother-Of-All-Bombs  but Massive Ordnance Air Blast) be able to destroy the NK nuclear test site (in a mine) ? Could one blow "do the job"? http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20355/Conflicting-reports-on-US-plans-for-preventative-N-Korea-strike" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20355/Conflicting-reports-on-US-plans-for-preventative-N-Korea-strike ,(Vice President Pence visiting Seoul SK sunday does not mean the US will attack before that time DJ)  http://www.debka.com/article/26010/US-drops-MOAB-first-time-in-combat-in-Afghanistan" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26010/US-drops-MOAB-first-time-in-combat-in-Afghanistan  ( https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/12/trump-withholds-syria-sarin-evidence/" rel="nofollow - https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/12/trump-withholds-syria-sarin-evidence/ chemical attack in Syria came from Jordan ???)

We may be combining a (1956) Suez-crisis with a (1962) Cuba-crisis. And that is bad news.

INL was expecting some major news from the US. They report that Russia has replaced the lost Syrian Mig aircraft-due to the US Tomahawk-attack-by more modern Sukhoi-bombers. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-13/trump-may-send-50000-troops-syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-13/trump-may-send-50000-troops-syria

Russia may be having talks with Syria and Iran, China proberbly is trying to influence North Korea-both are doing so to avoid further major escalation. ( http://english.cctv.com/2017/04/14/ARTIsbso3RHJvJCo7JuQvlGT170414.shtml" rel="nofollow - http://english.cctv.com/2017/04/14/ARTIsbso3RHJvJCo7JuQvlGT170414.shtml Putin going to China may 14/15 ) http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-sounds-the-alarm-trump-prepares-for-war-against-korea/5584808" rel="nofollow - http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-sounds-the-alarm-trump-prepares-for-war-against-korea/5584808 US is telling Russia to drop Syria, telling China to drop North Korea 'or else"-this is not a way the US-Trump_ should be dealing with other world leaders DJ)

China would defend North Korea if NK would give up its nuclear program. (INL ???) It could be that when the US strikes North Korea Pyongyang gives in to China and China "tells" the US to stop further military action. ( https://already-happened.com/2017/04/13/recent-footage-shows-a-lot-of-chinese-military-vehicles-deploying-toward-north-korea-border-prob-air-def-systems/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/13/recent-footage-shows-a-lot-of-chinese-military-vehicles-deploying-toward-north-korea-border-prob-air-def-systems/ That Chinese air-defence is not moving towards North Korea to defend China from NK airforce-it is there to be used-when needed-to defend NK against US attacks).

Another big question is did Trump give "the military" free hand to do what they think is needed ? 

We will have to much info (not always correct) can expect "interesting times".

Stay safe and well, stay informed !


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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 14 2017 at 11:13am
Syria:

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20362/Russia-Iran-and-Syria-issue-warning-to-US" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20362/Russia-Iran-and-Syria-issue-warning-to-US

North Korea

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20358/China-War-could-break-out-any-moment-over-North-Korea" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20358/China-War-could-break-out-any-moment-over-North-Korea

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20361/Air-China-to-suspend-Beijing-Pyongyang-flights" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20361/Air-China-to-suspend-Beijing-Pyongyang-flights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQVrcG3c070" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQVrcG3c070 Israeli News Live: NK could hit US bases.

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/14/russia-reportedly-moved-military-vehicles-air-def-toward-vladivostok-not-far-from-the-border-with-north-korea-this-night/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/14/russia-reportedly-moved-military-vehicles-air-def-toward-vladivostok-not-far-from-the-border-with-north-korea-this-night/

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201704141052637940-russia-dprk-envoy-regime/" rel="nofollow - https://sputniknews.com/asia/201704141052637940-russia-dprk-envoy-regime/  and http://koreas.liveuamap.com/en/2017/14-april-deputy-defence-minister-general-of-the-army-of-russia" rel="nofollow - http://koreas.liveuamap.com/en/2017/14-april-deputy-defence-minister-general-of-the-army-of-russia Russia regime change by US in North Korea unacceptable.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: April 14 2017 at 5:58pm
North Korea can likely "hit" Seoul SK without much effort.  There are many tunnels that were built from North to South, so it is likely that Seoul has been seeded with chemical weapons, dirty bombs, maybe even nuclear warheads ahead of any military action. 

Similarly, they could have nukes in ships at sea, ready to sail into harbors of Japan, Hawaii etc.  

These are clever folks who have survived for decades on sheer willpower, so I don't think this will be an easy undertaking....they will be fighting for their own survival, and Kim Il Sung is revered as god-like. 


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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 14 2017 at 9:25pm
CRS,DrPH, proberbly many/all North Koreans are that intimidated and brought up with the idea of a "Kim" leading them the way. They may "follow him wereever he may go". Reminds me of the fanatism of the Japanese during WW2 with a "god-like emperor"-a mix of nationalism with religion.

I understand there is a dam north of Seoul wich would flood Seoul when it would break. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul Seoul urban area has 50% of all South Koreans-16th city in the world with 25 milion inhabitants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imnam_Dam" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imnam_Dam Imnam dam is just north of the DMZ not far from Seoul. North Korea has 22 milion people-so the Seoul urban region has more people than their northern neighbour).

The "Day of the Sun" (105th birthday of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il-sung" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il-sung ) did NOT see the long expected nuclear test. Maybe Russia-US-China (RUC) did have enough pressure to stop the test ?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/kremlin-warns-us-bigger-threat-north-korea-china-fears-world-war-inevitable" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/kremlin-warns-us-bigger-threat-north-korea-china-fears-world-war-inevitable

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/chinese-media-almost-sets-world-war-3-erroneous-north-korea-headline" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/chinese-media-almost-sets-world-war-3-erroneous-north-korea-headline "Launching a new missile at a parade" almost got intreperted as "launching it from a NK submarine". (The SLBM Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile in the hands of NK is bad news.)

Legally it is hard to explain why some countries would have a right to have nuclear weapons and others would not have that right. Why should Israel be allowed to have nuclear weapons and Iran not ? The way out of this problem could be Russian-US-China cooperation. With at the end nu nuclear weapons at this planet. (For the moment an utopia. There was news that a US strike on NK nuclear site could cause 6x Tjernobyl-radiation output. ( http://enenews.com/" rel="nofollow - http://enenews.com/ is already full of ongoing nuclear disasters-North Korean radiation would reach the US/Canada.) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/us-conducts-successful-field-test-new-nuclear-gravity-bomb" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/us-conducts-successful-field-test-new-nuclear-gravity-bomb

http://www.debka.com/article/26011/No-ICBMS-able-to-reach-US-in-NKorean-parade" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26011/No-ICBMS-able-to-reach-US-in-NKorean-parade

http://www.conflict-news.com/live-feed/" rel="nofollow - http://www.conflict-news.com/live-feed/ with news from several wars....

" rel="nofollow - - http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9368 - - http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9368  Here are the possible futures I suppose: 

A. The North doesn't test anything for now - Basically tensions lower. The North stops its testing for now. Despite the build up in the area the United States doesn't preemptively strike the North with Trump backing off as well. Since the North Korean program would remain in effect and would continue to develop basically President Trump would be kicking the can down the road like previous Presidents. Furthermore the United States would lose face with the international community in the medium run. We did this big military build up in the area and sabre rattled...for nothing. 

B. The North conducts their test and the West doesn't strike - North Korea gains credibility. Chairman Un becomes more bold moving into the future seeing that President Trump's threats were without merit. I'd expect to see an ICBM test in the near future if this timeline happens. President Trump would lose all credibility among the international community having lost a stare down with the North Koreans. East Asia would become less stable in the short term. 

C. The North conducts their test and the West strikes - This is where things become blurry. Things could spiral horribly out of control so much so that we see a Sino-American Nuclear War that results in billions of deaths. On the other extreme we could see a very small response by the North Koreans like a minor artillery shelling. It is hard to say. If President Trump orders strikes on North Korea the ball would be in the North's court.




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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 15 2017 at 12:35am
UTC 11.15
https://www.rt.com/news/384813-pyongyang-us-military-hysteria/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384813-pyongyang-us-military-hysteria/

UTC 11.10
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40222-new-revelations-belie-trump-claims-on-syria-chemical-attack" rel="nofollow - http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40222-new-revelations-belie-trump-claims-on-syria-chemical-attack Russia informed US about Syrian airstrike on "rebel depot" wich caused "gas attack".

UTC 08.32
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2087904/five-reasons-why-us-cannot-attack-north-korea-it-did?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral" rel="nofollow - http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2087904/five-reasons-why-us-cannot-attack-north-korea-it-did?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

UTC 08.02 
http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/15/north-korea-postpones-nuclear-showdown-with-us/" rel="nofollow - http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/15/north-korea-postpones-nuclear-showdown-with-us/ and http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/14/russia-china-urge-restraint-as-tensions-over-north-korea-escalate/" rel="nofollow - http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/14/russia-china-urge-restraint-as-tensions-over-north-korea-escalate/

UTC 07.49
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/13/trump-uses-nukes-vt-teams-rush-to-site-of-nuclear-bunker-buster-in-afghanistan/" rel="nofollow - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/13/trump-uses-nukes-vt-teams-rush-to-site-of-nuclear-bunker-buster-in-afghanistan/

…the US has produced approximately 600 micro nukes, some of them smaller than a soccer ball, with the capability as low as a single ton of TNT dialable up to 40 tons of TNT. There is evidence that those weapons have been used in Iraq and Afghanistan. Studies have found uranium 235 to be in the bodies of the population there.”

The United States’ use of powerful genetic weapons such as depleted uranium on the battle field is in violation of every conceivable international law, says an analyst.

Depleted uranium has a half-life of 4.5 billion years and has thus earned the title “The silent killer that will never stop killing”.


UTC 07.34
http://www.atimes.com/article/north-korea-warns-retaliation-u-s-military-hysteria/" rel="nofollow - http://www.atimes.com/article/north-korea-warns-retaliation-u-s-military-hysteria/





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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 15 2017 at 11:04pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2ljiFP-rU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2ljiFP-rU Trump advised to de-escalate ?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-15/north-korea-attempted-ballistic-missile-launch-sunday-and-failed-yonhap" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-15/north-korea-attempted-ballistic-missile-launch-sunday-and-failed-yonhap

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-15/india-claims-500-pakistanis-protecting-isis-killed-treasonous-us-bombing-afghanistan" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-15/india-claims-500-pakistanis-protecting-isis-killed-treasonous-us-bombing-afghanistan

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-15/us-china-why-sudden-convergence-north-korea" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-15/us-china-why-sudden-convergence-north-korea

https://www.rt.com/news/384855-blast-hits-bus-convoy-syria/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384855-blast-hits-bus-convoy-syria/

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/the-reason-behind-north-koreas-nuclear-program-and-its-offer-to-end-it.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/the-reason-behind-north-koreas-nuclear-program-and-its-offer-to-end-it.html#more

https://southfront.org/us-dispatches-its-troops-to-somalia/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/us-dispatches-its-troops-to-somalia/

https://southfront.org/fugitive-syrian-general-says-assads-government-retained-700-tons-of-chemical-weapons/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/fugitive-syrian-general-says-assads-government-retained-700-tons-of-chemical-weapons/

Superstation: US still preparing to attack North Korea with 1260 airplanes involved from Guam and two US carriers, SK air force bases.
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3686" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3686 ,
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3687" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3687 ,
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3688" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3688

DJ: The nucleartest and missilestest from NK continue to be a risk for US allies and the US itself. Reasons for stepping down could be better realistic alternatives. Russia and China may not be able to convince Trump of these alternatives. When a US (mainly) attack on North Korea means war with Russia and/or China "things can get out of control very fast". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8CJxRNeKw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8CJxRNeKw Lionel Nation asking what Trump is doing.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 16 2017 at 8:47am
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/mcmaster-working-china-range-options-respond-threatening-north-korea-behavior" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/mcmaster-working-china-range-options-respond-threatening-north-korea-behavior

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/south-korea-says-missile-launch-threatens-whole-world-pence-arrives-seoul" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/south-korea-says-missile-launch-threatens-whole-world-pence-arrives-seoul

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/16/russian-military-equipment-recently-spotted-around-barnabaul-station-heading-west/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/16/russian-military-equipment-recently-spotted-around-barnabaul-station-heading-west/

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/16/us-enhances-air-defence-systems-as-pence-lands-in-south-korea-and-norths-missile-launch-fails/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/16/us-enhances-air-defence-systems-as-pence-lands-in-south-korea-and-norths-missile-launch-fails/

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/16/518290/Libya-fighting-GNA-LNA" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/16/518290/Libya-fighting-GNA-LNA

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/16/518251/Iran-Azerbaijan-Dehqan-Hassanov-US-Israel-Saudi-Arabia" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/16/518251/Iran-Azerbaijan-Dehqan-Hassanov-US-Israel-Saudi-Arabia

http://www.debka.com/article/26012/North-Korean-missile-launch-possibly-sabotaged" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26012/North-Korean-missile-launch-possibly-sabotaged

Out of a basketful of aggressive options, DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence experts pick the four most likely methods the Americans may have applied to thwart the latest North missile launch:

1. Sabotage of the missile’s fuel, guidance, or communications systems, or of its exterior or the launch pad.

Method: Cutting of cables or fuel lines, changing the flight system’s programming, etc.

Possible perpetrators: Engineers secretly collaborating with the US or those motivated by hatred, jealousy or other factors.

2. Sabotage of the missile’s command and control system, such as changing its flight commands, ignition system, or ordering it to self-destruct, as is done to avoid landing in an unintended location or falling into enemy hands.

Method: Secretly planting instructions in the command and control system, or interfering with the controllers in charge of sending instructions to the missile

Possible perpetrators: mission control staff or military engineers involved in the composition of the command and control programs.

3. Electronic warfare against the command and control systems in the mission control center by sending powerful electromagnetic pulses to disrupt communications with the missile.

Method: US warships, surveillance planes or satellites

Possible perpetrators: US army or navy

4. A cyberattack against the missile’s control system that changes the electronic commands and downs the missile

Method: Planting of malware that enables the attackers to seize control of the computer system without being detected

Possible perpetrators: US intelligence agencies, first and foremost the National Security Agency.   


http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20373/Russia-reportedly-moves-weapons-towards-North-Korean-border" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20373/Russia-reportedly-moves-weapons-towards-North-Korean-border

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39614428" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39614428 US China on NK
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39612901" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39612901 NK-view on test failure

http://english.cctv.com/2017/04/16/VIDEFrJKlL0oHSwpemxtaJKl170416.shtml" rel="nofollow - http://english.cctv.com/2017/04/16/VIDEFrJKlL0oHSwpemxtaJKl170416.shtml China on US-China  (Xi-Trump) relations:

Trump said he learned the relationship between China and the DPRK is not as simple as he thought. But, he said he still thinks there's room for China to do more.
In the week that has passed, the two presidents have talked again with Trump calling Xi to discuss various issues. Just days ago, Trump declined to label China a currency manipulator something he previously promised to do.Since those meetings at his Mar-a-Lago estate, Trump's public comments on China have remained largely positive a sharp contrast to before meeting President Xi.



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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 16 2017 at 2:04pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/us-cyber-attack-sabotaged-kims-missile-launch-former-british-foreign-secretary-claim" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/us-cyber-attack-sabotaged-kims-missile-launch-former-british-foreign-secretary-claim

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/did-al-qaeda-fool-white-house-again" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/did-al-qaeda-fool-white-house-again

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/visual-guide-north-koreas-military-capabilities" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/visual-guide-north-koreas-military-capabilities

http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/15/north-korea-missile-test-ends-in-failure-south-korea/" rel="nofollow - http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/15/north-korea-missile-test-ends-in-failure-south-korea/

http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/15/north-korea-postpones-nuclear-showdown-with-us/" rel="nofollow - http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/15/north-korea-postpones-nuclear-showdown-with-us/

https://www.rt.com/usa/384968-trump-says-china-north-korea-problem/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/384968-trump-says-china-north-korea-problem/

https://www.rt.com/news/384943-turkey-referendum-ballot-count/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384943-turkey-referendum-ballot-count/

https://www.rt.com/news/384950-serbia-s300-russia-belarus/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384950-serbia-s300-russia-belarus/

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/16/518289/Yemeni-forces-allies-bomb-attack-Saudi-Arabia-base-Jizan-soldiers-killed-retaliatory-attack" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/16/518289/Yemeni-forces-allies-bomb-attack-Saudi-Arabia-base-Jizan-soldiers-killed-retaliatory-attack


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 17 2017 at 12:59am
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/the-reason-behind-north-koreas-nuclear-program-and-its-offer-to-end-it.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/the-reason-behind-north-koreas-nuclear-program-and-its-offer-to-end-it.html#more

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/-al-qaeda-suicide-attack-kills-100-civilians-whodunit.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/-al-qaeda-suicide-attack-kills-100-civilians-whodunit.html#more

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3699" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3699 Draft preparations US
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3698" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3698 Nuclear worries Hawaii
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3697" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3697 China and Russia keeping an eye on US activity close to NK. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/visual-guide-north-koreas-military-capabilities" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/visual-guide-north-koreas-military-capabilities

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/has-trump-lost-control-pentagon" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/has-trump-lost-control-pentagon

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/17/89/0401000000AEN20170417005352315F.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/17/89/0401000000AEN20170417005352315F.html
NK special forces

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/17/1/0401000000AEN20170417007700315F.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/17/1/0401000000AEN20170417007700315F.html
NK spy-chief

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/17/518348/US-Koreas-Pence-Trump-Abe-DMZ" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/17/518348/US-Koreas-Pence-Trump-Abe-DMZ

https://www.rt.com/usa/384993-trump-military-power-no-choice/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/384993-trump-military-power-no-choice/

https://www.rt.com/news/384995-isis-chemical-gas-attack-mosul/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/384995-isis-chemical-gas-attack-mosul/

DJ: Since 1945 the world came close to World War 3 (WW3) several times. In october 1950 Chinese forces moved into North Korea during the Korean War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War . Also during the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War Russians were shooting at Americans and v.v.. During the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War the Soviet Union was unloading nuclear weapons in Alexandria Egypt to stop the Israeli offensive west of the Suez Canal (50 miles east of Cairo). 

We at this moment have several conflicts-Ukraine, Middle East, India/Pakistan, Yemen, South China Sea, Korea that may get out of control. All major players, the US, Russia, China, France, Uk, know the risks involved. The North Korea-crisis is about Weapons of Mass Destruction, NK is able to do a lot of damage around the globe. In that way the present situation is different from earlier events. 

The US, Russia (or Soviet Union) and China not having direct communications is not new. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow%E2%80%93Washington_hotline" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow%E2%80%93Washington_hotline After the Cuba-(Turkey)-missile crises the US and Russia made a direct line to avoid "war by mistake". Evenso there were several moments these past decades the US or Russia believed to be under attack due to radar problems etc. 

The present situation is very dangerous. I do not want any government to bring me in this danger-this is not what governments are meant to do. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/ron-paul-peace-popular-people-dont-start-wars" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/ron-paul-peace-popular-people-dont-start-wars . Is World War 3 just hours away ? I hope not ! 


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 18 2017 at 10:23pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/they-have-no-proof-mit-professor-explains-why-assad-gas-attack-was-sham" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/they-have-no-proof-mit-professor-explains-why-assad-gas-attack-was-sham

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/how-western-civilization-could-collapse" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/how-western-civilization-could-collapse

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/us-fighter-jets-intercept-two-russian-tactical-bombers-100-miles-away-alaska" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/us-fighter-jets-intercept-two-russian-tactical-bombers-100-miles-away-alaska

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/pentagon-considers-shooting-down-north-korea-missile-tests" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/pentagon-considers-shooting-down-north-korea-missile-tests

http://www.debka.com/article/26014/US-Tomahawk-cruise-missiles-for-ISIS-Sinai-HQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26014/US-Tomahawk-cruise-missiles-for-ISIS-Sinai-HQ

http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=227729" rel="nofollow - http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=227729 and http://www.voanews.com/a/us-china-time-patience-pressure-north-korea/3814221.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.voanews.com/a/us-china-time-patience-pressure-north-korea/3814221.html

DJ, The US under Trump continues to have a clueless foreign policy. Trump may loose European support by his support of Erdogan as well. It will proberbly be a matter of time before North Korea does her nuclear test-maybe this time under the protection of Russia and China. 

The Tomahawk-strike in Syria does translate in more Russian and Iran wareffort. The US has troops in the region but large scale operations of US troops inside Syria are seen as a US invasion of Syria (for oil). Both in the Arab world and in Syria there is not much support for such a move. 

The US has become a blind giant getting isolated.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: April 18 2017 at 10:26pm
does Trump even know who Erdogan is and what he has done in Turkey?

maybe someone needs to get him a newspaper subscription

I seriously wonder sometimes if he can even read


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 19 2017 at 12:52am
Satori; 

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/trump-enthrones-erdogan-destroys-all-trust-in-us-diplomacy-.html#comments" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/trump-enthrones-erdogan-destroys-all-trust-in-us-diplomacy-.html#comments

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/goodbye-turkey.html#" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/goodbye-turkey.html#

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/the-nerve-agent-attack-that-did-not-occur-khan-sheikhun-summary-report-by-prof-postol.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/the-nerve-agent-attack-that-did-not-occur-khan-sheikhun-summary-report-by-prof-postol.html#more

EU members refrained from accepting the vote before the ongoing legal fight over it is decided. Only Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other Gulf and Central Asian dictatorships congratulated him. The terrorist group Ahrar al Sham, which fights the people and government of Syria, also  https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/853861975088025600" rel="nofollow - congratulated  Erdogan. Al-Qaeda in Syria, under its new alliance name HTS,  https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/853947715222290466" rel="nofollow - joined in  as well as  https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/853984001010225154" rel="nofollow - other https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/853869326612307968" rel="nofollow - Takfiri groups  in Syria.

Like the EU countries the U.S. State Department held out on congratulations. It only released  https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/854138138645626880/photo/1" rel="nofollow - a statement  that noted reports of voting "irregularities" and an "uneven playing field". It voiced support for inner-Turkish dialog and legal processes. White House spokesman Sean Spicer  http://theglobepost.com/2017/04/17/trump-becomes-first-western-leader-to-congratulate-erdogan-on-victory/" rel="nofollow - said  the U.S. administration would wait until the final report by the international observers mission was released.

The State Department and the spokesman were quickly undermined by President Trump. Only an hour later the Turkish side  https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2017/04/17/trump-calls-erdogan-to-congratulate-him-on-referendum-victory" rel="nofollow - reported  of a Trump-Erdogan telephone conversation:

U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday called Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to congratulate him on the referendum victory.

The two leaders had a "pleasant" call which lasted for 45 minutes, diplomatic sources said.

This was later confirmed by a White House readout of the call. (The  https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/854133774929588230" rel="nofollow - readout  is not yet on the White House website but was sent out to the press via email).

(DJ, Trump puts himself in the same group as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and IS.)

The published content of the call does not bode well for Turkey, Syria and Iraq (emphasis added):

“President Trump and President Erdogan also discussed the counter-ISIS campaign and the need to cooperate against all groups that use terrorism to achieve their ends,” the White House statement said.

The Turkish version of the readout was worse:

The two leaders also discussed an alleged chemical attack by the Syrian government on April 4 that killed approximately 100 civilians and injured 500 others in the opposition-held town of Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib province. 
..
Trump and Erdoğan agreed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was responsible for the attack.

The U.S. president also thanked Turkey for its support for U.S. missile strikes on the Shayrat air base on April 7 in retaliation for the chemical attack.

Both leaders also stressed the need for cooperation in the fight against terror groups, including the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

The Khan Sheikhun incident was  http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/white-house-intelligence-assessment-is-no-such-thing-but-shows-support-for-al-qaeda.html" rel="nofollow - likely  a "false flag" attack initiated by the terrorists on the ground -possibly with Turkish support. The proven number of casualties was far less than the statement claims. The only purpose of the following U.S. missile strikes was to  http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/trumps-khan-sheikoun-production.html" rel="nofollow - dispel allegations  that Trump is in cahoots with Russia.

(DJ on the gas attack MIT:)

The conclusion is that the nerve agent attack described in the White House Intelligence Report did not occur as claimed. There may well have been mass casualties from some kind of poisoning event, but that event was not the one described by the WHR.

The findings of this expanded analysis can serve two important purposes:

1. It shows exactly what needs to be determined in an international investigation of this alleged atrocity.

In particular, if an international investigation can determine where casualties from the nerve agent attack lived, it will confirm that the findings reported by the White House Report are incompatible with its own cited data.

2. It also establishes that the White House Report did not utilize simple and widely agreed upon intelligence analysis procedures to determine its conclusions.

This raises troubling questions about how the US political and military leadership determined that the Syrian government was responsible for the alleged attack. It is particularly of concern that the White House Report presented itself as a report with “high confidence” findings and that numerous high-level officials in the US government have confirmed their belief that the report was correct and executed to a standard of high confidence.

Theodore A. Postol

Professor Emeritus of Science,
Technology, and National Security Policy
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

(DJ, the 2013 gas-attack was done by the "rebels" with help from "the west", "gulf states". Outside the US that "west" is blamed for the wars in Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Somalia etc. That "west" supported the mass-murder of Kurdish people for decades in Turkey, Iran and Iraq. That "west" supported dictators in Latin America-killing tens of thousends of people. How mich credebility does that "west" thinks remains ? 

The North Korea-crisis may put Russia-Iran-China even more together. The fossil fuels wars by the west, causing dramatic climate change and earthquakes, making rich even better of and on the other hand drasticly increase poverty, slavery and mass starvation, has made that "west"unacceptable for most educated people. 

An elite is running that "west" undemocraticly. Democracy itself is in a crisis.)

Moon of Alabama:

The "Sarin Attack on Khan Sheikhun", which the White House and its Ambassador to the UN  http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/history-repeats-itself-1st-as-tragedy-2nd-as-farce.html" rel="nofollow - blamed  on the Syrian government, did not happen - at least not in the way that was claimed. They Syrian government had  http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/white-house-intelligence-assessment-is-no-such-thing-but-shows-support-for-al-qaeda.html" rel="nofollow - no motive  at all to mount such an attack. It was in the mid of a winning streak.  The incident benefited al-Qaeda in Syria which dominates the area in question but was losing on the battle field. In "response" to the claimed attack the U.S. bombed the Syrian military airport Al Syairat. This was the main air base for the Syrian airforce involved in fighting the Islamic State in eastern-Syria. The attack amounted to  http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-us-creates-new-air-support-request-scheme-for-al-qaeda.html" rel="nofollow - U.S. air support on request of al-Qaeda  and the Islamic State. The Trump administration  http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/trumps-khan-sheikoun-production.html" rel="nofollow - initiated  these events for domestic purpose. They let Trump to look sufficient belligerent and presidential and dispelled false allegations of association with Russia by the Democrats and the media. To justify the attack the White House released a report written by the National Security Council, not by intelligence services. The report was  http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/white-house-intelligence-assessment-is-no-such-thing-but-shows-support-for-al-qaeda.html" rel="nofollow - full of holes  and ridiculous assertions.





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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 19 2017 at 12:16pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euKWaXu6vrg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euKWaXu6vrg Israeli News Live: Did Russia and China agree to protect North Korea ? (And is that why the US did not attack ? Did Russia warn the US to stop their oil-wars around the globe "or else"? see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCbRODaXBcE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCbRODaXBcE India buying Mig-29 s ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bEZsr3tPX8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bEZsr3tPX8 Sri Lanka buying Chinese fighters)

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/19/military-vehicles-spotted-on-the-streets-of-brisbane-australia-said-to-be-very-rare-to-see/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/19/military-vehicles-spotted-on-the-streets-of-brisbane-australia-said-to-be-very-rare-to-see/

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/19/eyewitness-in-far-eastern-russia-spotted-3-trains-loaded-with-military-vehicles-tor-air-def-heading-toward-the-north-korea-border/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/19/eyewitness-in-far-eastern-russia-spotted-3-trains-loaded-with-military-vehicles-tor-air-def-heading-toward-the-north-korea-border/

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/18/us-has-recently-delivered-fresh-military-equipment-into-eastern-afghanistan/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/18/us-has-recently-delivered-fresh-military-equipment-into-eastern-afghanistan/ and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/hundreds-us-marines-headed-afghanistan" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/hundreds-us-marines-headed-afghanistan

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/18/secretary-of-defense-jim-mattis-has-landed-at-king-salman-air-base-saudi-arabia-today/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/18/secretary-of-defense-jim-mattis-has-landed-at-king-salman-air-base-saudi-arabia-today/

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3712" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3712 EMP-drills in New Jersey https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/exercises/" rel="nofollow - https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/exercises/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/russian-nuclear-capable-bombers-fly-within-36-miles-alaska-second-day-row" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/russian-nuclear-capable-bombers-fly-within-36-miles-alaska-second-day-row

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/libya-more-war-and-reconciliation.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/libya-more-war-and-reconciliation.html#more

DJ, If Russia and China told Trump not to attack North Korea (or Syria-further US/NATO "aid" in Ukraine etc) will that stop Trump ? The build-up of forces continues. Not a good sign !


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 19 2017 at 11:53pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/what-war-north-korea-would-probably-look" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/what-war-north-korea-would-probably-look

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/world-war-twisted-cure-doomed-economy-signals-war-are-fiscal" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/world-war-twisted-cure-doomed-economy-signals-war-are-fiscal

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/ukraine-verge-disaster-benefits-no-one" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-19/ukraine-verge-disaster-benefits-no-one

http://www.debka.com/article/26016/Syria-moves-all-its-fighter-jets-to-Russian-base" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26016/Syria-moves-all-its-fighter-jets-to-Russian-base

https://www.rt.com/usa/385357-vinson-armada-korea-spicer/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/385357-vinson-armada-korea-spicer/

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/20/518730/Japan-Australia-defense-cooperation-North-Korea" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/20/518730/Japan-Australia-defense-cooperation-North-Korea

http://www.voanews.com/a/trump-orders-review-of-iran-nuclear-deal/3816362.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.voanews.com/a/trump-orders-review-of-iran-nuclear-deal/3816362.html  (Tillerson in Saudi Arabia https://twitter.com/ABC/status/854792524002545664" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/ABC/status/854792524002545664 Iran terrorist state.)

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/20/52/0401000000AEN20170420010400315F.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/20/52/0401000000AEN20170420010400315F.html
South Korea and USAF drill with over 100 aircraft.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 20 2017 at 8:12am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyEqPr2duZM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyEqPr2duZM Israeli News Live: Russia will defend North Korea against the US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-20/north-korea-threatens-us-super-mighty-preemptive-strike" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-20/north-korea-threatens-us-super-mighty-preemptive-strike

https://www.rt.com/usa/385409-trump-china-part-korea/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/385409-trump-china-part-korea/ and https://www.rt.com/news/385418-north-korea-pre-emptive-strike/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/385418-north-korea-pre-emptive-strike/

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20405/Pentagon-chief-in-Egypt-for-talks-with-president-defense-minister" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20405/Pentagon-chief-in-Egypt-for-talks-with-president-defense-minister

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20403/Iran-China-to-jointly-reconfigure-Arak-nuclear-facility" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20403/Iran-China-to-jointly-reconfigure-Arak-nuclear-facility

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20406/Airstrike-said-to-kill-19-ISIS-fighters-in-Sinai-including-several-commanders" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20406/Airstrike-said-to-kill-19-ISIS-fighters-in-Sinai-including-several-commanders

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20401/Confidante-of-Iranian-Gen-Soleimani-becomes-ambassador-to-Baghdad" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20401/Confidante-of-Iranian-Gen-Soleimani-becomes-ambassador-to-Baghdad

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20400/Mattis-in-Riyadh-Wherever-there-s-trouble-in-Mideast-you-find-Iran" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20400/Mattis-in-Riyadh-Wherever-there-s-trouble-in-Mideast-you-find-Iran

https://southfront.org/unknown-warplanes-hit-kurdish-ypg-positions-in-northern-syria/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/unknown-warplanes-hit-kurdish-ypg-positions-in-northern-syria/

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/20/47/0401000000AEN20170420011900315F.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/20/47/0401000000AEN20170420011900315F.html
US Nuclear "sniffer" WC-135 "Constant Phoenix" in South Korea

http://weapons4trade.blogspot.nl/2017/04/israel-to-receive-three-more-f-35is.html" rel="nofollow - http://weapons4trade.blogspot.nl/2017/04/israel-to-receive-three-more-f-35is.html




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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 20 2017 at 9:54pm
https://already-happened.com/2017/04/20/video-allegedly-shows-the-deployment-of-russian-forces-near-vladivostok-not-far-from-north-korea/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/20/video-allegedly-shows-the-deployment-of-russian-forces-near-vladivostok-not-far-from-north-korea/  and http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20407/Russia-China-reinforce-troops-on-NKorean-border-fearing-refugee-influx" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20407/Russia-China-reinforce-troops-on-NKorean-border-fearing-refugee-influx

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3718" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3718 nuclear simulation New Jersey

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3717" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3717 North Korea informs China about coming nuclear test. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-20/risk-accidental-nuclear-war-growing-un-research-group-says" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-20/risk-accidental-nuclear-war-growing-un-research-group-says

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-20/reason-behind-sales-surge-nuclear-proof-bunkers" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-20/reason-behind-sales-surge-nuclear-proof-bunkers

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/04/18/trumps-nsa-bluffed-no-sunlight-between-china-and-russia/" rel="nofollow - http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/04/18/trumps-nsa-bluffed-no-sunlight-between-china-and-russia/ Russia and China are good friends.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/only-chlorine-not-sarin-involved-in-the-khan-sheikhun-incident.html#more" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/only-chlorine-not-sarin-involved-in-the-khan-sheikhun-incident.html#more


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 7:09am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty

Specifically, Article 2 of the treaty declares the two nations guarantee to adopt immediately all necessary measures to oppose any country or coalition of countries that might attack either nation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty#cite_note-HS-4" rel="nofollow - [4]

The treaty is in effect and automatically renews every 20 years. It has renewed in 1981 and 2001. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty#cite_note-Big5ifeng-3" rel="nofollow - [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty#cite_note-straighttimes-5" rel="nofollow - [5]  The most recent renewal will remain in effect until the year 2021. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty#cite_note-sina1-6" rel="nofollow - [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty#cite_note-straighttimes-5" rel="nofollow - [5]

See also Israeli News Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbdq0gFQ_ZE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbdq0gFQ_ZE and https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3725" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3725 China drills near NK-border. 


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/south-korea-heightened-alert-north-prepares-major-army-event" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/south-korea-heightened-alert-north-prepares-major-army-event North Korean peoples Army gets 85 april 25 (so a nuclear test to celebrate that ?)


http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21/518897/US-spy-planes-monitoring-possible-North-Korea-nuclear-test" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21/518897/US-spy-planes-monitoring-possible-North-Korea-nuclear-test


https://already-happened.com/2017/04/21/kremlin-we-wont-discuss-reports-russian-troops-moving-towards-north-korea-border-ria/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/21/kremlin-we-wont-discuss-reports-russian-troops-moving-towards-north-korea-border-ria/ (On Russian North Korean military cooperation see http://tass.com/defense/836146" rel="nofollow - http://tass.com/defense/836146 :After two-day negotiations, Russia and North Korea signed an agreement on Thursday on preventing dangerous military activities. The document was signed by the head of the Russian delegation and Vice Chief of the Korean People’s Army O Kum Chol. The draft agreement was approved by the Russian government at the end of 2014.

During the visit, Russians commemorated Soviet soldiers at the "Liberation" monument in the North Korean capital. Honor Guard were called to perform their duties at the monument with inscription "Eternal glory to Great Soviet Army that freed Korean people from burden of Japanese militarists and opened path toward freedom and independence.")


Syria


https://www.rt.com/news/385515-lavrov-opcw-mission-syria-blocked/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/385515-lavrov-opcw-mission-syria-blocked/  


http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21/518868/Mattis-in-Israel-to-discuss-Iran-Syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21/518868/Mattis-in-Israel-to-discuss-Iran-Syria


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-april-20-2017-foreign-powers-to-increase-support-to-militants-in-syria/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-april-20-2017-foreign-powers-to-increase-support-to-militants-in-syria/  


DJ: The plan to split Syria in three parts, Kurdish-north, Sunni-east and Shia-west is still continuing. http://syria.liveuamap.com/" rel="nofollow - http://syria.liveuamap.com/  





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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 22 2017 at 12:51am
Syria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm2-kxnc1fU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm2-kxnc1fU , http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20416/Israeli-army-strikes-Syrian-sources-of-mortar-fire-on-Golan" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20416/Israeli-army-strikes-Syrian-sources-of-mortar-fire-on-Golan , http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20415/Two-more-shells-drop-on-the-Golan" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20415/Two-more-shells-drop-on-the-Golan , http://www.debka.com/article/26022/Mattis-leaves-Israel-with-unanswered-questions" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26022/Mattis-leaves-Israel-with-unanswered-questions , https://www.rt.com/news/385658-un-commission-syria-chemical-versions/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/385658-un-commission-syria-chemical-versions/

USA-black out:
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3731" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3731 and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/total-chaos-cyber-attack-feared-multiple-cities-hit-simultaneous-power-grid-failures" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/total-chaos-cyber-attack-feared-multiple-cities-hit-simultaneous-power-grid-failures , https://www.rt.com/usa/385646-blackouts-hit-la-ny-sf/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/385646-blackouts-hit-la-ny-sf/

Korea:

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/21/us-tanks-and-other-military-hardware-spotted-at-noryangjin-station-south-korea-heading-north-east/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/21/us-tanks-and-other-military-hardware-spotted-at-noryangjin-station-south-korea-heading-north-east/ , http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/satellite-images-suggest-north-korea-may-have-resumed-nuclear-test-preparations" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/satellite-images-suggest-north-korea-may-have-resumed-nuclear-test-preparations , http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/21/south-korea-on-heightened-alert/" rel="nofollow - http://warmonitor.net/news/2017/04/21/south-korea-on-heightened-alert/

USA:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/simple-reason-why-second-american-civil-war-may-be-inevitable" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/simple-reason-why-second-american-civil-war-may-be-inevitable

Afghanistan:

https://www.rt.com/news/385669-afghan-taliban-base-attack-casualties/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/385669-afghan-taliban-base-attack-casualties/

France:

https://www.rt.com/uk/385660-uk-missiles-role-gaddafi-saudi-yemen/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/uk/385660-uk-missiles-role-gaddafi-saudi-yemen/ , http://www.atimes.com/article/play-france-prepares-tear-political-playbook/" rel="nofollow - http://www.atimes.com/article/play-france-prepares-tear-political-playbook/ . The IS "terrorist attacks" are sometimes very coincidental with other events. Is the French secret service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Directorate_for_Internal_Security" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Directorate_for_Internal_Security behind it ? (See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior )

US carriers positions:
https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/maritime_21_04_2017.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/maritime_21_04_2017.jpg

Some music to compensate:
Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8slArpj_XU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8slArpj_XU Beyond the quiet river-four Russian talented girls.
North Korea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twQKilaHBro" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twQKilaHBro Surfin in the DPRK-US surfers in North Korea
Iran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVJVLriwd8s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVJVLriwd8s  

War is a crime in itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKsgaXQy2k" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKsgaXQy2k
Yoko Ono: Go to  http://imaginepeace.com/warisover/" rel="nofollow - http://imaginepeace.com/warisover/
Download, print & display these multilingual 'WAR IS OVER!' posters in your window, school, workplace, car and elsewhere.

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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 22 2017 at 10:45pm
Syria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAlEWVNpGo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAlEWVNpGo Long Israeli News live video-the US/UK is still preparing to "balkanize" (split up) Syria from Jordan. https://already-happened.com/2017/04/22/usns-mendonca-moored-at-port-corpus-christi-texas-while-us-soldiers-staging-military-vehicles-around-it/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/22/usns-mendonca-moored-at-port-corpus-christi-texas-while-us-soldiers-staging-military-vehicles-around-it/ Further US reinforcements being prepared. US troops still on board of US ships in Lebanon. 

http://www.voltairenet.org/article196033.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.voltairenet.org/article196033.html and http://www.voltairenet.org/article195989.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.voltairenet.org/article195989.html DJ: The US is preparing for a war with Iran. The troopmovements and sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia (for the western backed genocide in Yemen and Syria) is that large that there is a bigger plan behind it. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/did-russia-shoot-down-us-missiles-syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/did-russia-shoot-down-us-missiles-syria , http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/krieger-american-empire-under-trump-has-become-increasingly-desperate-dangerous-inse" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/krieger-american-empire-under-trump-has-become-increasingly-desperate-dangerous-inse and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/yale-psychiatrists-just-warned-there-something-seriously-wrong-trump" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/yale-psychiatrists-just-warned-there-something-seriously-wrong-trump . DJ: The US position as the only "superpower" controlling the globe is being challenged by the Russian-Chinese coalition. This West-East confrontation has to end with one giving in to the other. That can go in peace, by limited wars or full scale wars. The outlook is not good at all !

North Korea: 

China making themselves clear: https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3739" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3739

However, cooperative efforts by China and the US will under no circumstance evolve into any kind of military action against North Korea. Beijing will never support or cooperate with Washington when it comes to implementing solutions that involve using military force against Pyongyang. Nor will Beijing support increasing measures from Washington that involve the direct overthrow of the Pyongyang regime.

The US has not hesitated in the least to remind China that it hopes the country can utilize some sort of action in applying pressure upon North Korea; and should that not work, the US along with its allies will act by themselves to do the job. The underlying tone is clear in that Beijing better pursue all coercive measures possible in order to make Pyongyang give up its nuclear program, and that if that fails, the armies of the US and South Korea will act as they see fit.

The US should not stand by this so-called "first stage," merely waiting for some miracle to happen. Sanctions from Beijing will not inspire instant change over Pyongyang's nuclear program. Moreover, if Washington is not willing to take a flexible stand that guarantees security and peace, its stark warnings and sanctions will probably push Pyongyang to resist as best it can. As the old saying is understood, in order for a "stick" to achieve its desired goal, a "carrot" must be used at the same time.

Military action against North Korea is not an easy question to answer. If the blow is light, Pyongyang's military power would remain intact, and South Koreans could potentially face a revenge attack of some kind. One can only hope that Washington reaches out to Seoul for a second opinion. If the blow is heavy, the Chinese people will not allow their government to remain passive when the armies of the US and South Korea start a war and try to take down the Pyongyang regime. The Chinese will not let something like that happen, especially on the same land where the Chinese Volunteer Army once fought in the early 1950s. It is a land covered with the blood of Chinese soldiers who bravely fought in the early 1950s. Furthermore, if Pyongyang were to be taken by the allied armies of the US and South Korea, it would dramatically change the geopolitical situation in the Korean Peninsula.


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 12:02pm
Syria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS1Mloya7eE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS1Mloya7eE , https://southfront.org/russia-may-deploy-ground-forces-to-syria-on-assad-government-request-media-reports/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/russia-may-deploy-ground-forces-to-syria-on-assad-government-request-media-reports/ , http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/24/519286/Russia-ground-forces-Syria-Hama-Takfiri-militants" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/24/519286/Russia-ground-forces-Syria-Hama-Takfiri-militants , http://sana.sy/en/?p=104890" rel="nofollow - http://sana.sy/en/?p=104890 , Russia (and Iran) moving ground troops into Syria on invitation of Assad. http://www.debka.com/article/26023/Mattis-in-Djibouti-amid-high-Red-Sea-stakes" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26023/Mattis-in-Djibouti-amid-high-Red-Sea-stakes , http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/23/pravda-china-sides-with-russia-on-syria-and-north-korea/" rel="nofollow - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/23/pravda-china-sides-with-russia-on-syria-and-north-korea/ , http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/24/russia-prepared-to-deploy-ground-forces-to-syria-unconfirmed/" rel="nofollow - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/24/russia-prepared-to-deploy-ground-forces-to-syria-unconfirmed/

Eastern Europe:

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/24/report-f-35-lightning-ii-jets-to-arrive-in-estonia-on-tuesday/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/24/report-f-35-lightning-ii-jets-to-arrive-in-estonia-on-tuesday/ , https://already-happened.com/2017/04/23/belarusian-dm-pledges-to-use-force-in-case-of-repeat-air-border-breach-by-lithuania-in-under-construction-belarusian-nuclear-power-plant-area/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/23/belarusian-dm-pledges-to-use-force-in-case-of-repeat-air-border-breach-by-lithuania-in-under-construction-belarusian-nuclear-power-plant-area/ , https://already-happened.com/2017/04/23/ukrainian-tanks-recently-spotted-near-school-n2-of-volnovakha-donetsk-oblast-not-far-from-the-front-line/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/23/ukrainian-tanks-recently-spotted-near-school-n2-of-volnovakha-donetsk-oblast-not-far-from-the-front-line/

Afghanistan:

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/24/us-must-confront-russia-for-providing-weapons-to-the-taliban-in-afghanistan-top-us-military-officials/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/24/us-must-confront-russia-for-providing-weapons-to-the-taliban-in-afghanistan-top-us-military-officials/ , http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/24/afghanistan-us-accused-of-sarin-use-more-poor-dead-babies/" rel="nofollow - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/24/afghanistan-us-accused-of-sarin-use-more-poor-dead-babies/   http://www.zerohedge.com/search/apachesolr_search/" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/search/apachesolr_search/

North Korea:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-24/china-threatens-retaliation-trumps-steel-protectionism" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-24/china-threatens-retaliation-trumps-steel-protectionism , http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20433/Trump-calls-all-100-US-senators-for-North-Korea-briefing" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20433/Trump-calls-all-100-US-senators-for-North-Korea-briefing , http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/24/519335/China-aircraft-carrier-Type-001A-Liaoning" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/24/519335/China-aircraft-carrier-Type-001A-Liaoning , https://www.rt.com/news/385941-china-restraint-trump-north-korea/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/385941-china-restraint-trump-north-korea/ .

Slavery:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/24/do-you-know-how-much-it-costs-to-buy-a-9-year-old-girl/" rel="nofollow - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/24/do-you-know-how-much-it-costs-to-buy-a-9-year-old-girl/ IS is selling slaves to Turkey, Gulf States etc. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/10/libya-public-slave-auctions-un-migration" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/10/libya-public-slave-auctions-un-migration


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 9:58pm
Korea: 

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/25/0401000000AEN20170425003051315.html" rel="nofollow - http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/04/25/0401000000AEN20170425003051315.html
US-Forces Korea ready for any action from NK. https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3757" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3757 US ICBM test-launch wednesday. https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3755" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3755 USS Nimitz ready for action. https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3753" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3753 US nuclear submarine in Busan-South Korea. Israeli News Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSG_klZP35g" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSG_klZP35g Russia-Iran-China dropping US$. https://www.rt.com/usa/386010-trump-unsc-north-korea-sanctions/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/386010-trump-unsc-north-korea-sanctions/ , http://www.debka.com/article/26024/WHouse-calls-all-US-Senators-for-NKorea-briefing-" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26024/WHouse-calls-all-US-Senators-for-NKorea-briefing-

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-24/elites-are-orchestrating-global-catastrophe-there-are-many-things-president-does-not" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-24/elites-are-orchestrating-global-catastrophe-there-are-many-things-president-does-not

Syria:

https://southfront.org/tracing-bulgarian-arms-shipments-to-syrian-islamists/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/tracing-bulgarian-arms-shipments-to-syrian-islamists/



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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 25 2017 at 12:25pm
East Asia:

https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201704211052866086-washington-terrified-of-russia-china/" rel="nofollow - https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201704211052866086-washington-terrified-of-russia-china/
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2090209/philippines-offering-beijing-olive-branch-over-south" rel="nofollow - http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2090209/philippines-offering-beijing-olive-branch-over-south
http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20438/Japanese-PM-hopes-to-implement-peace-treaty-in-Moscow-visit-" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20438/Japanese-PM-hopes-to-implement-peace-treaty-in-Moscow-visit-
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3760" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3760 B2-bombers on their way (to NK ?)
https://www.rt.com/news/386092-japan-missile-strike-guidance/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386092-japan-missile-strike-guidance/
https://www.rt.com/news/386076-us-nuclear-sub-korea/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386076-us-nuclear-sub-korea/
https://southfront.org/china-making-final-preparations-to-launch-its-first-domestically-built-aircraft-carrier-photos/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/china-making-final-preparations-to-launch-its-first-domestically-built-aircraft-carrier-photos/
https://already-happened.com/2017/04/25/north-korea-stages-large-scale-artillery-drill-as-u-s-submarine-docks-in-south-via-reuters/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/25/north-korea-stages-large-scale-artillery-drill-as-u-s-submarine-docks-in-south-via-reuters/

Middle East:

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20442/Turkish-warplanes-strike-Kurds-in-Iraq-and-Syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20442/Turkish-warplanes-strike-Kurds-in-Iraq-and-Syria
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/25/519440/Turkey-Kurds-peshmerga-YPG" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/25/519440/Turkey-Kurds-peshmerga-YPG
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/25/trump-sold-turkey-us-approval-to-attack-iraq/" rel="nofollow - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/25/trump-sold-turkey-us-approval-to-attack-iraq/
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/with_error_fixed_evidence_against_sarin_attack_remains_convincing_20170421#.WP8IGB5C6ws.facebook" rel="nofollow - http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/with_error_fixed_evidence_against_sarin_attack_remains_convincing_20170421#.WP8IGB5C6ws.facebook

Europe:

https://www.rt.com/news/386101-us-f35-arrive-estonia/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386101-us-f35-arrive-estonia/
https://already-happened.com/2017/04/25/uk-typhoons-arrive-in-romania/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/25/uk-typhoons-arrive-in-romania/
https://www.rt.com/news/386093-uk-nuclear-strike-russia/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386093-uk-nuclear-strike-russia/
https://www.rt.com/news/386127-pace-president-syria-apology-hearing/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386127-pace-president-syria-apology-hearing/


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 25 2017 at 10:23pm
https://www.rt.com/news/385912-russia-backs-iran-shanghai-pact/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/385912-russia-backs-iran-shanghai-pact/  see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/turkish-airstrikes-complicate-us-operations-in-iraq-and-syria.html#" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/turkish-airstrikes-complicate-us-operations-in-iraq-and-syria.html#

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-summary-us-moves-to-cut-off-the-east-but-for-what.html#" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-summary-us-moves-to-cut-off-the-east-but-for-what.html#

May 9 will bring elections in South Korea. The leading candidate wants new talks with the north and distance between SK and the US. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/25/secrecy-and-cover-up-for-trump-war-plans/" rel="nofollow - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/25/secrecy-and-cover-up-for-trump-war-plans/

http://www.vocativ.com/424011/to-solve-the-north-korean-crisis-we-need-china/" rel="nofollow - http://www.vocativ.com/424011/to-solve-the-north-korean-crisis-we-need-china/

https://www.nknews.org/2017/04/n-korea-is-the-most-imminent-threat-to-u-s-experts-tell-senate/" rel="nofollow - https://www.nknews.org/2017/04/n-korea-is-the-most-imminent-threat-to-u-s-experts-tell-senate/

Press freedom under pressure:
https://rsf.org/en/ranking/2017" rel="nofollow - https://rsf.org/en/ranking/2017 (You can click on a country for further info).


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: April 26 2017 at 4:11am
Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:



May 9 will bring elections in South Korea. The leading candidate wants new talks with the north and distance between SK and the US.
That is definitely going to add to the tensions.  'Can't have that can we?  All the more reason to ramp things up from the US's side.

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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2017 at 5:07am
Technophobe; also this discussion here http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=9561" rel="nofollow - http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=9561 .

NK is becoming an unacceptable risk for both the region and the US. Proberbly even China and Russia will agree with that. How to deal with it is the big international question. 

China (with over 80% of the trade with NK) has only recently (under Trump-pressure) made sanctions (coal import from NK) more strict. China claims that time could bring NK to reason. 

For China a nuclear (strongest so far) NK test not far from their border has become a risk. China needs trade for her New Silk Road-policy. A 1961 defense-treaty between China and NK is still valid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-North_Korean_Mutual_Aid_and_Cooperation_Friendship_Treaty .

DJ: In my opinion military action against North Korea only could be an option when Russia-US-China cooperate. Under the given circumstances an unilateral action by the US will "worsen the ralitions" with China and Russia dramaticly. 

North Korea is believed to be able to use satllites for an EMP-strike (against the US, Japan ? https://www.intellihub.com/report-two-n-korean-satellites-are-capable-of-delivering-a-surprise-nuclear-emp-attack-on-u-s/" rel="nofollow - https://www.intellihub.com/report-two-n-korean-satellites-are-capable-of-delivering-a-surprise-nuclear-emp-attack-on-u-s/ ), did have enough time to have agents in western countries for "actions" (nuclear and other https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction ). 

The Korea"region" now is full of US, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Russian etc. "material" (from submarines to listening devices, cyber-warfare weapons, nuclear sniffers, drones etc. ). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoB1_AWNgY0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoB1_AWNgY0 INL NK-update.

The https://already-happened.com/2017/04/26/us-minuteman-iii-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-operational-test-launch-in-show-of-force-against-north-korea/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/26/us-minuteman-iii-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-operational-test-launch-in-show-of-force-against-north-korea/ ICBM also will  have been followed by many countries. 

http://38north.org/" rel="nofollow - http://38north.org/ and others are unable to tell what the outcome of this conflict will be. 

From https://already-happened.com/2017/04/25/north-korea-stages-large-scale-artillery-drill-as-u-s-submarine-docks-in-south-via-reuters/#comments" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/25/north-korea-stages-large-scale-artillery-drill-as-u-s-submarine-docks-in-south-via-reuters/#comments

sangyong lee https://already-happened.com/2017/04/25/north-korea-stages-large-scale-artillery-drill-as-u-s-submarine-docks-in-south-via-reuters/#comment-100" rel="nofollow -


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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2017 at 9:55am
East Asia:

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/26/russia-keeps-sending-military-vehicles-toward-far-eastern-borders/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/26/russia-keeps-sending-military-vehicles-toward-far-eastern-borders/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/us-air-force-releases-video-minuteman-iii-icbm-launch" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/us-air-force-releases-video-minuteman-iii-icbm-launch
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/russia-has-withdrawn-half-its-fighter-jet-group-syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/russia-has-withdrawn-half-its-fighter-jet-group-syria

Geo-politics:

https://dninews.com/article/only-way-stop-us-aggression-get-rid-dollar-glazyev?_utl_t=fb" rel="nofollow - https://dninews.com/article/only-way-stop-us-aggression-get-rid-dollar-glazyev?_utl_t=fb

http://thesaker.is/sacred-communities-and-the-emergent-multipolar-landscape/" rel="nofollow - http://thesaker.is/sacred-communities-and-the-emergent-multipolar-landscape/

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/24/paul-wolfowitz-donald-trump-iraq-middle-east-215065" rel="nofollow - http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/24/paul-wolfowitz-donald-trump-iraq-middle-east-215065

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/26/519554/Iran-Syria-Saudi-Jubeir-Russia-Lavrov" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/26/519554/Iran-Syria-Saudi-Jubeir-Russia-Lavrov

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/26/519528/Iran-Russia-US-Syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/26/519528/Iran-Russia-US-Syria

Korea:

https://www.rt.com/news/386200-us-south-korea-drills/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386200-us-south-korea-drills/

https://www.rt.com/news/386231-bolivia-president-morales-rt/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386231-bolivia-president-morales-rt/




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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2017 at 9:36pm
Syria:

https://www.rt.com/news/386286-damascus-airport-blast-fire/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386286-damascus-airport-blast-fire/ , http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/massive-explosion-reported-near-damascus-international-airport-syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/massive-explosion-reported-near-damascus-international-airport-syria ,  http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20457/Israel-will-not-let-Iranian-Hizballah-buildup-on-Syrian-border" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20457/Israel-will-not-let-Iranian-Hizballah-buildup-on-Syrian-border , http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519604/Explosion-at-Damascus-International-Airport" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519604/Explosion-at-Damascus-International-Airport

DJ: Assad warned earlier that if Israel would do more airstrikes Syria would strike back with scuds. Both Turkey and Israel can not strike Syrian (Iran, Kurdish) targets without some role for the US. When YPG (and other Kurdish groups) stop cooperating with the US in Syria and Iraq-Russia taking over-the US may loose further ground in the Middle East. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4954576,00.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4954576,00.html  The Israel Air Force reportedly attacked an Iranian arms depot near the Damascus International Airport early Thursday morning, according to the Hezbollah-affiliated al-Manar television station.

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20455/Officials-laying-groundwork-for-Trump-visit-to-Israel-in-late-May-sources" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20455/Officials-laying-groundwork-for-Trump-visit-to-Israel-in-late-May-sources

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20450/Iran-s-defense-chief-in-Moscow-expected-to-meet-Russian-counterpart" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20450/Iran-s-defense-chief-in-Moscow-expected-to-meet-Russian-counterpart

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519601/US-empowers-Pentagon-in-Iraq-Syria-fight" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519601/US-empowers-Pentagon-in-Iraq-Syria-fight

https://komnews.org/ypj-spox-will-withdraw-raqqa-us-doesnt-show-concrete-reaction-turkey-airstrikes/" rel="nofollow - https://komnews.org/ypj-spox-will-withdraw-raqqa-us-doesnt-show-concrete-reaction-turkey-airstrikes/  YPG-Kurds wants the US to put pressure on Turkey-may call for a no-fly zone

Korea:

http://time.com/4756685/trump-north-korea-military-preparations/" rel="nofollow - http://time.com/4756685/trump-north-korea-military-preparations/

http://www.debka.com/article/26025/US-THAADs-to-South-Korea-China-launches-carrier" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26025/US-THAADs-to-South-Korea-China-launches-carrier

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20451/China-calls-on-US-to-remove-missile-interception-system-from-SKorean-soil" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20451/China-calls-on-US-to-remove-missile-interception-system-from-SKorean-soil

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20448/As-tension-over-NKorea-rises-US-deploys-THAAD-ahead-of-schedule" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20448/As-tension-over-NKorea-rises-US-deploys-THAAD-ahead-of-schedule

https://www.rt.com/news/386276-us-missile-shield-russia-strike/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386276-us-missile-shield-russia-strike/

France:

https://www.sott.net/article/349314-Alarming-voter-irregularities-reported-across-France-as-fears-mount-election-being-rigged" rel="nofollow - https://www.sott.net/article/349314-Alarming-voter-irregularities-reported-across-France-as-fears-mount-election-being-rigged DJ: Will the French elections become a repeat of the US elections with Macron as Clinton and Le Pen as Trump ? (A choice between the old elite and "change"(for the worse ?)

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/385944-election-france-presidency-macron/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/op-edge/385944-election-france-presidency-macron/




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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 27 2017 at 3:23am
Syria:

http://www.debka.com/article/26026/Golan-tension-Pro-Iran-troops-move-on-Quneitra" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26026/Golan-tension-Pro-Iran-troops-move-on-Quneitra ,
http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20463/Syrian-military-source-Israel-carried-out-Thursday-s-attack-at-int-l-airport" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20463/Syrian-military-source-Israel-carried-out-Thursday-s-attack-at-int-l-airport , http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20460/Latest-Damascus-airport-incident-was-in-line-with-Israeli-policy-intel-minister" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20460/Latest-Damascus-airport-incident-was-in-line-with-Israeli-policy-intel-minister , http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/massive-explosion-reported-near-damascus-international-airport-syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/massive-explosion-reported-near-damascus-international-airport-syria

DJ: With both Israel https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/27-april-syria-confirms-israel-struck-a-military-compound" rel="nofollow - https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/27-april-syria-confirms-israel-struck-a-military-compound and Turkey   https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/27-april-turkish-military-planes-are-flying-over-efrn-now" rel="nofollow - https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/27-april-turkish-military-planes-are-flying-over-efrn-now "doing their own thing" in Syria, and loosing Kurdish support-the US is getting "a problem" in setting goals in the Middle East.

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20461/Houthi-rebels-attempt-boat-bomb-attack-on-Saudi-oil-terminal" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20461/Houthi-rebels-attempt-boat-bomb-attack-on-Saudi-oil-terminal

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/26/isis-exodus-foreign-fighters-caliphate-crumbles?_sp=9353e0d3-6d77-4493-8f6e-4f23d3ad7899.1493288294583" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/26/isis-exodus-foreign-fighters-caliphate-crumbles?_sp=9353e0d3-6d77-4493-8f6e-4f23d3ad7899.1493288294583

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-isis-expansion-in-afghanistan-is-pointed-at-russia/5587010" rel="nofollow - http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-isis-expansion-in-afghanistan-is-pointed-at-russia/5587010

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519634/Iran-Russia-Syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519634/Iran-Russia-Syria

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/russian-warship-sinks-after-collision-istanbul-coast-78-soliders-rescued" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/russian-warship-sinks-after-collision-istanbul-coast-78-soliders-rescued

North Korea:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/26/asia/north-korea-official-nuclear/index.html?_sp=9353e0d3-6d77-4493-8f6e-4f23d3ad7899.1493288350318" rel="nofollow - http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/26/asia/north-korea-official-nuclear/index.html?_sp=9353e0d3-6d77-4493-8f6e-4f23d3ad7899.1493288350318 .

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/27/north-korea-south-korea-us-white-house-diplomacy-sanctions" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/27/north-korea-south-korea-us-white-house-diplomacy-sanctions

DJ: One way out of the NK-crises could be less US military in South Korea when North Korea is willing to stop its WMD-programm. There is NO military solution. The price of a war with North Korea, the risks, are much to high. 

Superstation on US warpreparation: 
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3764" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3764 "NK will not stop nuclear programm"
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3763" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3763 "War is decided by US"
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3762" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3762 "NK will attack US"
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3761" rel="nofollow - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/3761 "8th Army moves HQ out of Seoul" (was an older plan)

DJ: I get a mixed message from the US-putting pressure but how far the US is willing to go ? China and Russia will NOT accept US unilateral large scale military action. But were is a red line for Russia and China ? 

Geopolitics:

http://regionalrapport.com/2017/03/09/indias-freaking-chinas-brics-plus-proposal/" rel="nofollow - http://regionalrapport.com/2017/03/09/indias-freaking-chinas-brics-plus-proposal/

https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201704241052940823-cpec-multipolar-world-future/" rel="nofollow - https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201704241052940823-cpec-multipolar-world-future/  
Chinese-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor=CPEC

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519671/Iran-Pakistan-Mirjaveh" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519671/Iran-Pakistan-Mirjaveh and http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/26/519576/Iran-border-guard-clash-sistan" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/26/519576/Iran-border-guard-clash-sistan
see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan (spread over Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan) IS in Iran http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-02-201014.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-02-201014.html



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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 27 2017 at 12:30pm
Korea:

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/from-war-on-korea-to-abu-graibh-how-us-bio-weapons-led-to-torture.html#" rel="nofollow - http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/from-war-on-korea-to-abu-graibh-how-us-bio-weapons-led-to-torture.html#

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/north-korea-releases-video-simulating-war-us" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/north-korea-releases-video-simulating-war-us

http://tass.com/politics/943628" rel="nofollow - http://tass.com/politics/943628 Japan and Russia want further 6 party talks on NK and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/japan-warns-citizens-prepare-north-korean-missile-attack" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/japan-warns-citizens-prepare-north-korean-missile-attack

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/t1457082.shtml" rel="nofollow - http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/t1457082.shtml
China-THAAD unacceptable

Syria:

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20471/An-Israeli-Patriot-intercepted-a-small-drone-from-Syria" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20471/An-Israeli-Patriot-intercepted-a-small-drone-from-Syria

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519706/Israel-Syria-Bashr-Assad" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/27/519706/Israel-Syria-Bashr-Assad
Assad on TeleSur (Venezuela)

https://www.rt.com/usa/386379-pentagon-troops-syria-iraq/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/usa/386379-pentagon-troops-syria-iraq/

https://komnews.org/turkey-backed-fsa-sold-turkish-armoured-vehicles-to-islamic-state-military-source/" rel="nofollow - https://komnews.org/turkey-backed-fsa-sold-turkish-armoured-vehicles-to-islamic-state-military-source/

Afghanistan:

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20469/Two-US-troops-killed-during-anti-ISIS-operation-in-Afghanistan" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20469/Two-US-troops-killed-during-anti-ISIS-operation-in-Afghanistan

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/27/departing-from-italy-us-deploys-more-forces-into-afghanistan/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/27/departing-from-italy-us-deploys-more-forces-into-afghanistan/

Musical compensation for all the war-news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqoV4ZW7xTA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqoV4ZW7xTA


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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 29 2017 at 1:46am
Korea:

DJ, I guess the main reason why NK did not have its 6th nuclear test proberbly has to do with "pressure" from China (not the US-build up-THAAD in SK made things worse). China could get effected by the NK test. Earlier tests may have brought earthquakes in China. Maybe even some radiation increase. 

NK may have gotten that message. 

In turn China may have made clear that it will not allow any major US military actions against NK. 

China would like to have more control over NK. Economicly NK is like Cuba during the Soviet Union. 

The NK-crisis now is in stalemate. Military options are limited. A US attack could have such a high prize the US will think of other options first. Unless some "leader" (wether Kim or Trump) does something stupid war is not the most likely option. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-28/north-korea-test-fires-another-ballistic-missile" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-28/north-korea-test-fires-another-ballistic-missile

NK launched another missile-and again the test went wrong. Maybe the US (or China, SK, Russia ?) did "help to make the test go wrong"? ( http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9615&start=30" rel="nofollow - http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9615&start=30 There is discussion if the test was a succes or not. NK was able to fire a missile in the short/medium range-that is not news.) http://www.debka.com/article/26032/North-Korea-launches-new-missile-US-sabotages" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/article/26032/North-Korea-launches-new-missile-US-sabotages

The background for this NK-US conflict is "bad for the US". To start tradewars with South Korea, Canada, the EU, Mexico, China AND expecting their support in several dangerous conflicts is "very unrealistic". 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-28/heres-who-nato-will-probably-be-fighting-if-theres-world-war-iii" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-28/heres-who-nato-will-probably-be-fighting-if-theres-world-war-iii and http://theantimedia.org/turkey-join-russia-china-us-europe/" rel="nofollow - http://theantimedia.org/turkey-join-russia-china-us-europe/ . 

With Le Pen in France as a possible next president, Turkey moving towards Asia, the Philipines thinking they can get a better deal with China (in a.o. South China Sea-but also trade)-even in South Korea elections on may 9 that will result in less SK-US "partnership"- "the west" can not afford major wars.

Japan ruled Korea from 1910 till 1945 and treated the Koreans as slaves. Hate against Japan unites Korea. The 1950-1953 war brought extreme damage http://apjjf.org/-Charles-K.-Armstrong/3460/article.html" rel="nofollow - http://apjjf.org/-Charles-K.-Armstrong/3460/article.html and did bring the world close to world war 3. Most Koreans do not want another war at almost all cost. 

Combining the Korea-crisis with the Syria-crisis makes Trump maybe a unique US president. 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-28/isis-apologized-israel-attacking-idf-soldiers" rel="nofollow - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-28/isis-apologized-israel-attacking-idf-soldiers

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/29/519861/Syria-US-Military-Presence" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/29/519861/Syria-US-Military-Presence

https://www.rt.com/news/386529-nato-montenegro-russia-referendum/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386529-nato-montenegro-russia-referendum/

DJ, When I can find the link I will put it here. US forces in Syria are now trying to protect Kurdish YPG fighters against Turkish airstrikes. https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/us-stryker-armoured-vehicles-are-deploying-into-northern-syria-along-the-tense-border-with-turkey/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/us-stryker-armoured-vehicles-are-deploying-into-northern-syria-along-the-tense-border-with-turkey/





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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 29 2017 at 12:58pm
Syria:

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20478/Israeli-air-strike-reported-against-Syrian-Hizballah-force-nearing-Quneitra" rel="nofollow - http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20478/Israeli-air-strike-reported-against-Syrian-Hizballah-force-nearing-Quneitra  
( https://twitter.com/SyrianMilitary/status/858393101341261824" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/SyrianMilitary/status/858393101341261824 - https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/858399950396325890" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/858399950396325890 )

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/29/519932/Turkish-military-convoy-armored-vehicles-personnel-carries-border-Syria-Kurdish-YPG-fighters" rel="nofollow - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/29/519932/Turkish-military-convoy-armored-vehicles-personnel-carries-border-Syria-Kurdish-YPG-fighters and https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/29-april-a-big-convoy-of-turkish-army-on-its-way-to-be-deployed" rel="nofollow - https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/29-april-a-big-convoy-of-turkish-army-on-its-way-to-be-deployed (DJ: One NATO-member (Turkey) is attacking an ally of another NATO-member (US-YPG-Kurds) in Syria. https://southfront.org/us-forces-increase-activity-at-turkish-syrian-border-ypg/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/us-forces-increase-activity-at-turkish-syrian-border-ypg/
https://southfront.org/turkish-warplanes-bomb-pkk-positions-in-iraq-14-kurdish-reebls-killed/" rel="nofollow - https://southfront.org/turkish-warplanes-bomb-pkk-positions-in-iraq-14-kurdish-reebls-killed/

Korea:

https://www.rt.com/news/386609-us-south-korea-war-games/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386609-us-south-korea-war-games/

https://www.rt.com/news/386612-duterte-says-n-korean-leader-kim-want-world-end/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rt.com/news/386612-duterte-says-n-korean-leader-kim-want-world-end/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nspGJnHuPDQ&t=5s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nspGJnHuPDQ&t=5s (Israeli News Live: Russia did take down NK missile ??? https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/russias-air-defense-in-the-far-east-region-has-been-put-on-high-alert-amid-the-missile-launch-carried-out-by-north-korea/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/russias-air-defense-in-the-far-east-region-has-been-put-on-high-alert-amid-the-missile-launch-carried-out-by-north-korea/ )

https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/us-installing-terminal-high-altitude-area-defense-system-thaad-in-seongju-south-korea/" rel="nofollow - https://already-happened.com/2017/04/29/us-installing-terminal-high-altitude-area-defense-system-thaad-in-seongju-south-korea/



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Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !



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