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Topic: The Whiners. Will the Democrats Ever Stop?
Posted By: Medclinician
Subject: The Whiners. Will the Democrats Ever Stop?
Date Posted: May 16 2017 at 6:03pm
"Just try and stay out of my way. Just try! I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, (Toto) too.
Wicked Witch of the West.
Wizard of Oz.

And if Trump had a little dog Toto (well does Spinee his dog count?) he must beware as well.

Yes, it's another day for the whiners in the media and the far left Democrats and they have more juicy conspiracies and Trump horrifics by the day.

I will spare you a whiners video from Saturday Night Live.

Hillary is still hoping she can run for president. Despite the fact she has multiple medical issues and could barely keep it together in the debates.

What will Trump do next?  Will he give away national secrets while trying to work with the Russians to finally end the conflict and stop ISIS?  Will be convicted of money laundering in the Netherlands and have to serve 30 years hard time?

It would be a blessing to read then news one day and not hear someone whining about Trump.

Hillary is still trying to start a revolution and somehow convince the minorities that a white woman bred in style who probably never suffered poverty in her life will somehow understand and sympathize.

Behind the curtain at the conventions she was saying "well we tell the people one thing but really do something else."

So - another day in "Gotcha News" and Toto better stay clear - and the press will never stop looking for something on Trump. 

Medclinician




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"not if but when" the original Medclinician



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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: May 16 2017 at 7:08pm
^Thanks!  Quite honestly, this is why I love America...I enjoy the fighting and conflict, because serious policies are the result.  

Hillary is toast, I think she and her brand will be in the ash-bin of history.  

With Gorsuch on the Supreme Court, the Second Amendment is safe for the time being, and I don't see much chance that the Dims will slay the Repugs anytime soon. 

Color me "conservative independent Reagan voter"



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CRS, DrPH


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: May 16 2017 at 10:13pm
Not just the left, Med...



John McCain on recent reports about Trump: 'It's reaching Watergate size and scale'


John McCain Jonathan Ernst/Reuters

Republican Sen. John McCain invoked the biggest scandal in modern political history on Tuesday when finding a comparison for recent reports about President Donald Trump.

"We've seen this movie before. It's reaching Watergate size and scale," https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/864640312144252932" rel="nofollow - McCain said at a dinner for the International Republican Institute. "This is not good for the country."

The New York Times reported on Tuesday that in February, Trump asked then-FBI Director James Comey to http://www.businessinsider.com/president-trump-asked-comey-end-investigation-michael-flynn-before-firing-2017-5" rel="nofollow - end the investigation into national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Trump unexpectedly fired Comey last week, in a move Trump said he made in part because of Comey's handling of an FBI investigation into the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia in the 2016 election.

Several Democratic lawmakers called the dismissal " http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nixon-comey-fbi-firing-2017-5" rel="nofollow - Nixonian " and compared it to the http://www.businessinsider.com/saturday-night-massacre-why-trump-fire-comey-2017-5" rel="nofollow - Saturday Night Massacre of 1973, when Nixon ordered the firing of the special prosecutor investigating the Watergate break-in and cover-up. Nixon's approval rating never recovered, and he resigned in disgrace the following year.

McCain has been consistently critical of Trump since Comey's firing, and is one of https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/10/us/politics/congress-statements-comey.html" rel="nofollow - just a handful of congressional Republicans who has called for the Russia probe to be handled independently.



http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-watergate-trump-comey-2017-5" rel="nofollow - http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-watergate-trump-comey-2017-5

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-watergate-trump-comey-2017-5" rel="nofollow -

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-watergate-trump-comey-2017-5" rel="nofollow -






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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: May 16 2017 at 10:47pm
And not just the US...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-classified-intelligence-information-leak-european-country-stop-sharing-threat-a7738846.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-classified-intelligence-information-leak-european-country-stop-sharing-threat-a7738846.html





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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: May 16 2017 at 10:59pm
in case a certain someone has not noticed
all that "whining" is turning into action
disregard it at your and Trump's peril

for the Democrats to talk about impeachment is nothing
but when the Republicans start hinting about it
indicates a paradigm shift IS happening
if the Comey memo is true
and Trump did try and kill the investigation of Flynn
that may very well be OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
that is not a theory,that is not whining it is a FACT

Trump's so far FAILED Presidency has acquired what is probably a PERMANENT odor
of taint,stink, and stench
and its ALL of his own making
quit blaming progressives or the media
Trump shoots himself in the foot on a daily basis
it is just who he is
a truly defective human being


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: May 16 2017 at 11:03pm
And even Trump had something to say about careless handling of classified information. Apparently it can make you unfit to be President...








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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: May 16 2017 at 11:53pm
Tweet of the Day



https://twitter.com/timkmak" rel="nofollow - - ✔

How can leaking the info to the press be a national security threat, and leaking the info to the Russians "wholly appropriate"?



Hillary might have put classified  info at risk

Trump DID





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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: May 17 2017 at 1:15am

The Madness of King Donald


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/andrew-sullivan-the-madness-of-king-donald.html

I keep asking myself this simple question: If you came across someone in your everyday life who repeatedly said fantastically and demonstrably untrue things, what would you think of him? If you showed up at a neighbor’s, say, and your host showed you his newly painted living room, which was a deep blue, and then insisted repeatedly — manically — that it was a lovely shade of scarlet, what would your reaction be? If he then dragged out a member of his family and insisted she repeat this obvious untruth in front of you, how would you respond? If the next time you dropped by, he was still raving about his gorgeous new red walls, what would you think? Here’s what I’d think: This man is off his rocker. He’s deranged; he’s bizarrely living in an alternative universe; he’s delusional. If he kept this up, at some point you’d excuse yourself and edge slowly out of the room and the house and never return. You’d warn your other neighbors. You’d keep your distance. If you saw him, you’d be polite but keep your distance. I think this is a fundamental reason why so many of us have been so unsettled, anxious, and near panic these past few months."


this is a VERY good question

what would you do if you lived next door to someone like this

or had someone in your family who behaved like this ?


and this guy is in the White House for crying out loud

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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: May 17 2017 at 4:56am
Well, Med, I am not a Democrat and I could not stand Hilary.  I can understand why she failed.

That said, it does not change the fact that Trump appears more crooked than a corkscrew!  I say "appears", as I believe he deserves his day in court to clear his name, or be impeached - and maybe done for treason as well, 


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Absence of proof is not proof of absence.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: May 17 2017 at 4:24pm
the whining is going to stop
cause' its gonna be replaced by some yelling and screaming

House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.e60b4abb420b\


and isn't McCarthy a REPUBLICAN?

oh I think he is !




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: May 17 2017 at 4:40pm
oh my good God!

CIA warned lawmakers about Russia’s pro-Trump efforts last summer


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/cia-warned-lawmakers-about-russias-pro-trump-efforts-last-summer

The C.I.A. told senior lawmakers in classified briefings last summer that it had information indicating that Russia was working to help elect Donald J. Trump president, a finding that did not emerge publicly until after Mr. Trump’s victory months later, former government officials say.

The briefings indicate that intelligence officials had evidence of Russia’s intentions to help Mr. Trump much earlier in the presidential campaign than previously thought…. The former officials said that in late August — 10 weeks before the election — John O. Brennan, then the C.I.A. director, was so concerned about increasing evidence of Russia’s election meddling that he began a series of urgent, individual briefings for eight top members of Congress, some of them on secure phone lines while they were on their summer break."


PUTIN'S PUPPET

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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: May 17 2017 at 5:27pm
uh oh
now being reported Comey WANTS to testify before Congress in OPEN session
AND
AND
he has MORE memos

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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: May 18 2017 at 2:18am
Hope HE got a Tape......now that would be funny....

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12 Monkeys...............
1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: Medclinician
Date Posted: May 22 2017 at 12:03pm
Nothing can ever come close to the Social Justice Warriors and their dying swan song of a lost election.  And in the most nasal of any tone some continue to chant -
"He is not our president."

Well actually they are paid to chant and organized by George Soros who is no small enemy of America and was a big supporter of Hillary Clinton.



It's always a revolution for the Democrats. The Revolution was when the workers and intelligent people finally got control back of America and started toning down special privilege minority programs and reverse discrimination.

Their motto should be "Don't confuse me with the facts."

Fox and CNN lately rarely have any evidence to back up most allegations except for breaking the news and pretending because "a can't be disclosed source with a non-existent document" proves that ... (fill in the blank).

We didn't elect Trump - and at least close to 50% of American popular - not only electoral vote - did - to look at watch home movies of. He was not a star of Bedtime for Bonzo and as Ronald Reagan nor a heart throb looker like JFK. JFK did have his bricks in a row though and it is likely like him - but having a tough talk and action - Trump may save us from a nuclear war.

The Middle East was ignoring us and Russia was running their own show in Syria until Trump went in and ordered a strike after years of using chemical weapons on babies. Our soldiers were dying in Afghanistan as Obama continued to cut our forces and leave them out there to be shot up.

Both Russia and China were stomping our butt in stealth craft and while Obama slept and they developed mobile missile launchers and new jets that could fly circles around ours.

I have a new saying to add to my own - Which was

"Those who can do, do. Those who can't teach. Those who can't do the first criticize. And finally
the new part
"Those who can't do the first three - protest against the few that are doing anything about anything."

Hillary was a bad candidate and she was not presidential material. The Democrats pushed the wrong issues. Instead of blacks and gays and transgender toilets, they should have worried about our economy, our workers, and our wide open borders.

Something is being done. Border traffic is down to a 1/3 of what it was and they don't even have the new wall up.

Trump went to the heart of the Middle East to where the money was and the real oil country - Arabia and instead of bowing to him like perhaps a Muslim would - he shook his hand and closed a deal. Trump is a business man and the world is a big business and basically is motivated by money and selling weapons. That is reality.

Now he is in Israel and also meeting with Palestine to try and talk some sense into someone with respect. Israel can't keep building settlements when they basically took Israel away from the people who lived there 3,000 years ago - slaughtered them men, women, and children and goats - and yet - they survived.  To Israel it was the Promised Land. To the people living there - they were their worst nightmare.

It is time to let Palestine have their country. At least we will know where the terrorists are instead of immigrants flooding into most of the countries in Europe - which is out of control.

Don't import terrorists or the people from the Middle East as much. Make their home countries livable so they can go back and for one thing -stop bombing them.

"We are going to take congress back and we will show you - so there!" said the Social Justice Warrior.

Show us how to balance a budget, respect and honor our veterans and our soldiers who keep soldiers out of your front yard and terrorists from bombing Walmart. It won't be long if we don't start controlling our borders.

The problem with protesting is that it is no substitute for hard labor and busting your butt to earn a living and support our country.  We who were soldiers did that. We worked hard and in whatever capacity - defended our nation. Without us - America would not be still America.

Every day I have to look at Fox and CNN and see more snivels and tears and whining. I mean I do want to keep informed as to who wants to overthrow our government, murder our police force, and use tax dollars to legalize drugs - which was a bad idea.

Trump did not conspire with the Russians to win the election. There is no evidence and never will be. However the press is committing treason using top secret information and putting it up every day and is a worse enemy to the U.S. than the spies.

The entire election this time was a cartoon with too many people with no idea how to fix anything for the most part.

Let me close my saying this...

You don't make something so by continuing  to chant it over and over. The press prints "Trump conspired with the Russians" with no evidence.  The Russians do not play fair, are not nice (those who are dangerous) and this is not news. They are enemies most times and our friends when they want something.  Isn't that how politics works anyway?

They want their country to be the great and Americans want ours to be. This is not an impossible goal. I did not say best - I said great.

All religions, people, and races can be great. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, and all religious people and atheists can live together in peace. Protestants can work with Catholics to help people and we can end all this conflict today if we really wanted to.

It is time we did. Let the crazies stay crazy and let the religions regain their passion and yet tolerance for each other.

Protestors do not address what I have just said at all. Work is the key word and we must work together to change the world. And it can be done.

Medclinician





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"not if but when" the original Medclinician


Posted By: Medclinician
Date Posted: May 24 2017 at 6:32pm
"It can't' last," I thought as I read the Fox News page this morning. "Trump meeting with the Pope, no proof of any of the lies about him somehow in league with the Russian and the press was going to ease up."

Nope.

Tonight they are at it again. All with manufactured malice. They have another poll. Trump approval down and voter support special counsel on Russia Investigation.

There is nothing to investigate.  Shoulda, woulda, coulda - didn't happen.

Hillary - the loudest of the whiners - " unimaginable levels of cruelty towards millions of Americans".

Forget the fact we are about to unite with some in the Middle East to beat Isis, trying to end the conflict over Palestine with Israel, and even meeting with the Pope. Not bad for 3 days. It is more than Obama did in 8 years. Forgotten are the times I have posted here when his approval ratings were in the low 30%. 

We have reached The National Foxguirer. Yep - it's down on the floor watching people wrestle on the CNN Springer Show.

It was so predictable off would come the headlines about a really bad terrorist attack and we are on the verge of nuclear war with North Korea - and we are back to The Whiners.

There was another pouty picture as compared to the presidential one when he was in Arabia - Trump of Arabia - the analogy is not lost - he is trying to gather support for a war against terror.

As for Secret Agent Trump...

As York puts it: “The problem, for the confederation of Democrats, pundits, Obama holdovers, and NeverTrumpers who hoped to see that result, has been that so far, after a lot of investigating, no evidence has emerged that collusion actually occurred.”

It is a given that if there were evidence, we would have seen it during the campaign. It has been nearly a year and still - no proof.

Fox logic and liberal is - well a man came and tried to bribe the mayor and he kicked him out so - he is guilty and corrupt.

Of course Russia tried to influence the election. What are we going to do - You better stop that Russia are we will what.. we are always trying influence other nations and during the last election the president backed putting in money to block who was elected in Israel and failed.

Sound like a double standard?

Well, had a break this morning and now Hillary is still trying to get elected and start a revolution.  If anyone has missed the agenda - it was - a Black president, a woman president, and then a gay president. Someone woke up when the woman was not for the worker or Americans in general and had two faces and two speeches depending on which side of the curtain she was on.

Trump. He is trying to do the best job he can with a press that hates him. Not only hates but lies constantly. We finally have a new term - The Unreal News - and it is.

Medclinician



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"not if but when" the original Medclinician


Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: May 24 2017 at 10:10pm
The Dems and Liberals are the ones putting our country at risk by all their unfounded "news". They even put an "unhappy Pope" on the front pages...the Pope looks like that many times in between photos being snapped continuously. I am sure there were photos of him looking that way with the Obama's no one printed them because it did not make Obama look good.

People are just so tired of the Dems and their whining. I hope they keep at it so many people will be tired of it in 2018 it will help the Republicans.

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Always Be Prepared


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: May 25 2017 at 1:40am
WHY were so many Trump campaign officials talking to the Russians in the first place ?
WHO were they talking to?
WHAT did they talk about?
and WHY to a man
did they ALL lie about these contacts ?

60% of the public now opposes Trump
the ONLY people who support him still are his base
GET USED TO THE "WHINING"
time to MOVE ON Tongue

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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: May 25 2017 at 2:34am
You will have to wait till both houses have investigated,until then Trumps presidency will not hold any weight,its in his and the all his supporters best interest to support any inquiry and answer Fairly any questions,and everyone has a right to question whats going on until they get a satisfactory answer,just because you see it a whining others see it as a fair question.

Me I NEVER STOP OR GIVE IN......


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12 Monkeys...............
1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: May 25 2017 at 3:11am
Spot on, Carbon!  

I can't stand the man, 23 million Americans are about to lose healthcare (shameful!) and I firmly believe every word he speaks is a lie.  BUT, that is my opinion.  He, like everyone else, deserves to be "innocent until proven guilty" and, should his guilt remain unproven, then He has the democratic right to rule.  I, and my fellow complainers, will have to lump it!

I am unlikely to shut up though.  When I see wrongs being done to the innocent in his policies, I will exact my democratic right to "whine" all I like.  "Trumpetts" will just have to lump that!  (My democratic whining so wants to add an S to that epithet.!)


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Absence of proof is not proof of absence.


Posted By: Medclinician
Date Posted: June 01 2017 at 2:49pm
Had to get my dose today of yet another series of Hillary continues to blame everyone and everything for her failed bid for the presidency

As in the background Fox chants.. well, well, Comey is going to come out in a few weeks and he is going to tell that Trump told him to stop investigating.

He didn't you know?  It didn't happen. In fact, now, more than ever they want the truth to come out. Fox is so desperate and armed with informants that "just know what Comey is going to say".

I think they should bring the Whiners back and give them their own night time comedy show on HBO and they can nightly parody the delusional world of conspiracies that don't exist.

Just sayin'

Medclinician


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"not if but when" the original Medclinician


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: June 02 2017 at 1:06am
I wish Trump supporters would stop whining about Democrats whiningLOL

the Democrats are gonna whine till the next election
just like Republicans did

get over it'
time to move onLOL


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Medclinician
Date Posted: June 08 2017 at 5:44am
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/07/dershowitz-comeys-statement-fails-to-deliver-smoking-gun-democrats-craved.html%20" rel="nofollow - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/07/dershowitz-comeys-statement-fails-to-deliver-smoking-gun-democrats-craved.html

Former FBI Director James Comey's written statement, which was released in advance of his Thursday testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, does not provide evidence that President Trump committed obstruction of justice or any other crime. Indeed it strongly suggests that even under the broadest reasonable definition of obstruction, no such crime was committed.

comment: Expect whining as the highest octaves. Expect moves to impeach the president based on vapor and no proof. The irony is that everyone with common sense and intelligence knew that President Trump never colluded with Russia or was under serious investigation for any crime or obstruction of such.

It was all BS to generate viewership for a media gone nuts since the primaries started and little improved until recently.

You might compare this to a husband who has cheated on his wife standing with tears in his eyes and pleading "You don't love me anymore" and his wife replying "No I don't you heartless bastard and you would do it again."

Yes, they will do it again. Over and over in protests and an uninformed and media controlled group who know little behind what they are told and follow like sheep. And there will be some of us who pace back and forth in front of the masses and look forward to the goals of improving America and make us great again as to all the pure BS crap that continues to go out "It just doesn't matter".

The greatest enemies of America are those who continue to try and create strife and division so that somehow the Democrats after years of disaster and get back in power. It's not about truth, justice and the American way (Superman) but petty whining by special interest groups because they are about to lose racist unfair huge amounts of money they have been demanding for decades. It party is over.

No longer will we find whether are not transsexuals have bathrooms in churches as top item on our rights agenda. No longer will taking care of illegals from outside the U.S. will be pandered for illegal votes to put in a criminal guilty of treason.

It's time to move on.

Medclinician

to the tune of - "all the BS is not helping anyone anywhere to get jobs, fix our economy, "provide the common defense" or anything to improve our nation. The rest - "it just doesn't matter". We need to focus on what does matter - and unite and work to end division based on race, religion, or party to get back to where we once were as a country to be admired and respected in the world.

 




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"not if but when" the original Medclinician


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 08 2017 at 5:53am
"Not criminal" is not the same as "not morally wrong".

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Absence of proof is not proof of absence.


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: June 08 2017 at 8:07am
Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

The irony is that everyone with common sense and intelligence knew that President Trump never colluded with Russia or was under serious investigation for any crime or obstruction of such.


The inference being that those who disagree are...?

Thanks Med - nice to know you hold so many of us in such high regard. I just hope that one day we can learn to quit whining, and instead offer constructive criticism in much the same way the right attempted to respectfully guide President Obama during his two terms. Baby steps.







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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: June 08 2017 at 8:02pm
We need to focus on what does matter

agreed
as we speak the Republicans are absolutely gutting Medicaid
Paul Ryan has made it clear that once Medicaid is gutted
he's going after Medicare next and the on to Social Security
I hope anyone who is blue or white collar FULLY understands the ramifications of this
one CRITICAL reason middle class people can retire is SS and Medicare
how anyone with a functioning brain can continue to support someone as odious as Trump
is beyond me

got a person in your family on Medicare now?
you do realize that for a very reasonable amount they have access to good health care
Ryan wants to turn that into a voucher program
you get a fixed amount and then your 85 year old grandma goes out and finds her own private insurance
and too bad if that voucher diesnt cover the full cost (which it WON'T)

wake the hell up America
what the hell is WRONG with you
you've voted to DESTROY yourselves and your very way of life




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: June 08 2017 at 10:57pm
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/8/1670097/-Nomination-Of-Christopher-Wray-As-FBI-Chief-Is-Middle-Finger-To-FBI-He-s-Involved-With-Russia" rel="nofollow - Nomination Of Christopher Wray As FBI Chief Is Middle Finger To FBI; & He's Involved With Russia

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/8/1670097/-Nomination-Of-Christopher-Wray-As-FBI-Chief-Is-Middle-Finger-To-FBI-He-s-Involved-With-Russia

the dumpster fire that is the Trump Presidency-burning even brighter and smellier


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: June 09 2017 at 11:03am
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

I wish Trump supporters would stop whining about Democrats whiningLOL

the Democrats are gonna whine till the next election
just like Republicans did

get over it'
time to move onLOL

Yeah, no kidding!!  Bitch & moan!  LOL

The Repugs have no reason to complain, except that their Cheeto in Chief is incompetent.  They control the House, Senate, Supreme Court, White House, most of the state houses, etc.   And still, both sides keep replaying the election, but there is no turning back. 


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CRS, DrPH


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: June 09 2017 at 1:18pm
what a freaking IDIOT

Trump Walks All Over Tillerson On Qatar Dispute

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tillerson-qatar_us_593add6be4b024026878e24a?yz&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


but just a few weeks ago

Trump: Qatari emir and I to discuss purchase of ‘beautiful military equipment’

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/05/21/Trump-Qatari-emir-and-I-to-discuss-purchase-of-beautiful-military-equipment-.html


and apparently Trump doesnt realize the US has a huge base in Qatar ?


and why is Trump selling military hardware to a nation he accuses of sponsoring terrorism ?

kinda makes him guilty of TREASON don't it ?


MORON




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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: June 09 2017 at 7:45pm
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

what a freaking IDIOT

Trump Walks All Over Tillerson On Qatar Dispute

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tillerson-qatar_us_593add6be4b024026878e24a?yz&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


but just a few weeks ago

Trump: Qatari emir and I to discuss purchase of ‘beautiful military equipment’

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/05/21/Trump-Qatari-emir-and-I-to-discuss-purchase-of-beautiful-military-equipment-.html


and apparently Trump doesnt realize the US has a huge base in Qatar ?


and why is Trump selling military hardware to a nation he accuses of sponsoring terrorism ?

kinda makes him guilty of TREASON don't it ?


MORON


I saw Drumpf give a press conference today, and he was moaning about Qatar providing funding for terrorist funding.  However, he was just in Saudi Arabia, which not only provides vast amounts of funding, but exports Wahabist teachings through support of Islamic madrasas (religious schools) in countries like Pakistan, thereby planting the seeds for new, young terrorists who will hate the West. 

Trump is a complete disaster of a US President.  I see nothing redeeming in his administration at all.  Mind you, I've voted for the GOP since my first election (Jerry Ford, a fine man), and I was one of the "Never Trumpers" in the party.  




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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 09 2017 at 7:46pm
Same reason he backs Saudi Arabia - terror sponsors on a grand scale - OIL!



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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: June 09 2017 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Same reason he backs Saudi Arabia - terror sponsors on a grand scale - OIL!


Plus, they gave him some serious bling & threw him a great party!!   This really disgusts me....








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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: June 10 2017 at 2:50am
He's an embarrassment.......

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1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: June 10 2017 at 5:02am
poor Trump
Mueller ain't playin'
this is the second HEAVY HITTER he has brought on board

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/9/1670437/-Good-News-Robert-Mueller-prepares-to-kick-a-Trump-s-week-just-got-a-whole-lot-worse" rel="nofollow - Good News. Robert Mueller prepares to kick a**. Trump's week just got a whole lot worse.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/9/1670437/-Good-News-Robert-Mueller-prepares-to-kick-a-Trump-s-week-just-got-a-whole-lot-worse

and who does Trump have "defending" him ?
his real estate lawyer from New York
NOT ONE single DC heavy hitter would sign on to defend him
NOT ONE
they knew he wouldnt listen to them
and they KNEW he would stiff them when it came time to pay his bill
guess his bad reputation has finally caught up with him

Trump better hope and pray he is lily white pure
'cause if he ain't Mueller is gonna find him out
and HE WILL BE IMPEACHED


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Medclinician
Date Posted: June 10 2017 at 11:19am
Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

The irony is that everyone with common sense and intelligence knew that President Trump never colluded with Russia or was under serious investigation for any crime or obstruction of such.


The inference being that those who disagree are...?

Thanks Med - nice to know you hold so many of us in such high regard. I just hope that one day we can learn to quit whining, and instead offer constructive criticism in much the same way the right attempted to respectfully guide President Obama during his two terms. Baby steps.



Actually most of the posts here are intelligent and way above the garbage on mainstream media. My primary issue with social justice warriors is that they are often violent, encourage reverse discrimination and racism, and conveniently ignore the truth which does not fit into their agenda. The agendas being pushed were for minorities, Muslims, atheists, Gays, or LBGT who really are not just asking for equality but trying to take over the government.

I have seen this in California all my life as farm workers who came to help harvest crops in Silicon Valley repopulated it and became the majority. The officials elected did not represent White People, but the minorities and selectively hired them for projects, gave contractors preference and even made the universities do quotas of hiring and those admitted for school.  This was wrong.

Somewhere along the line the Democrats have become associated with almost every radical group there is and which are misnamed "the people".

My mother was a Democrat and religiously so - my father a Republican. I grew up in a war zone every election. There was a time when the Democrats represented the worker class - not any more. Not they represent the "taker" class who get benefits of some kind without every really earning them.  The Welfare system nearly destroyed America and provided a breeding ground for a non-violent revolution to demonize those of us from Europe or Native Americans - especially males.

My definition of whining is complaining without offering solutions. A common sense person would say "okay I don't like it -let's try this".

I see the last election and issues from the Democrats as saying "I want special treatment because I am -"female" - "gay" - "atheist" - "Muslim" - "an immigrant - Latino or Black". You must hire equal numbers of us - put equal numbers in commercials and movies or we will hurt you and your business.

There is a concept called "Sins of the Fathers".  None of me, mine, or ancestors were Klu-Klux-Klan,
had plantations, slaves, or were racists. I am not responsible for those who did and it is now a very long time since slavery. I wasn't a Nazi, am not descended from any and have no issues with Jewish people or Arabs. No one should get special treatment.

There is an expression I have been told and finally got - "Get over it."

If anyone is persecuting anyone disabled, white or black or any color, arrest them and put them in jail. Any religion that teaches violence or putting itself over others without their consent is wrong. The same applies to any sexual orientation or race.

The Democrats want back in power. They will use any method, any propaganda, lie, cheat, steal, make up stories, anything they need to get back Congress and put in a Democrat as president. None of this considers the good of the American people. It is all partisan. Comey's testimony, as far as I am concerned ended the case for Trump to be tried for anything.

There will not be another election for 3 some years. There will be no impeachment. It is a dumb idea and will never get support without facts and a crime. There is none.

Medclinician




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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 10 2017 at 11:42am
'Sympathies Med.  My dad was "orange" and my mother "green" meaning that Mum wanted a united Ireland and my father wanted the north of Ireland to remain part of the United Kingdom.  I know that war zone.  I even found I was not alone:......................
                                                                         http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-orange-and-the-green-lyrics-irish-rovers.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-orange-and-the-green-lyrics-irish-rovers.html .   Needless to say, childhood was interesting!

Well, we may disagree on the current president, but, at least, all that arguing brings back childhood memories. Sigh!

I envy you on one point, our Prime Minister stays in power for 5 years, sometimes that is far too long.  Currently we have achieved the worst option of all: just before our departure from the European Union, when we desperately need negotiating power, we have a hung parliament.  I wish I could supply the rope!


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Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: June 10 2017 at 7:02pm
You are correct in your thinking Med. When Obama was elected and the Dems in control conservatives (Repubs) did not act like this. Well sad but Dems (Liberals) are weak whiners, I just hope people see this. 2018 is coming fast!

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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: June 10 2017 at 7:50pm
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unauthorized-database-of-false-things.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unauthorized-database-of-false-things.html

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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 7:41am
Thanks, JD!  

The way that list is laid out, charts each time Trump was logged as making a false statement.  I read about 1/6 of them and removed the repeats of the same lie, counting each lie only once - irrespective of how many times he told it.  I counted 25 original lies repeated on average 3-10 times.  assuming the rest followed the same pattern, that totals 150 original lies over a 3 month period: or 50 lies PCM.  

Though that is utterly disgusting, it is not totally unexpected in a politician.  I would love to see the equivalent list for Hilary.  If anyone can find one, I will apply the same formula and give the result here.

IMO, her list would be a little bit shorter.  But, that is my opinion and I would love to see how right/wrong I am.  That was obviously an anti-trump site.  For fairness, her list would need to come from an anti-hilary site.

Any takers?


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Absence of proof is not proof of absence.


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 8:00am
I'm guessing it's the magnitude of the lies, and the ease with which they can be disproved that would make Trump's list all the more significant, Techno.

"...never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it" - Office of Strategic Services' assessment of Germany's leadership during WW2.






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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 8:42am
I am absolutely bloody certain you are right, JD.  The Trump media team and the man himself strongly remind me of pre-war Germany. That is still just my opinion, even though the resemblances are amazing.  

'And, who is to say Hilary is not as bad?  Everyone, me included, tends to read the stuff which agrees with the opinion we already hold.  I would like to see the other side before my certainties are set in concrete.


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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 10:36am
Trump has closets overflowing with skeletons all over the world, the best closets, but I'm sure Clinton has at least a few herself - not least of which was potentially stealing the party nomination from Bernie Sanders with the DNC's help. I'm impressed that the man still had the grace to take one for the team after being screwed over so badly, and still endorse her.






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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 12:28pm


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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 1:05pm
That's actually my bank

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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 1:16pm
I understand the need to exit by the correct door, JD.  But, be careful when checking - they might think you are casing the joint.








                                                                                                                                                                                                                         I suspect all banks have such a closet.  Wink


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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 1:32pm


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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: June 11 2017 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Trump has closets overflowing with skeletons all over the world, the best closets, but I'm sure Clinton has at least a few herself - not least of which was potentially stealing the party nomination from Bernie Sanders with the DNC's help. I'm impressed that the man still had the grace to take one for the team after being screwed over so badly, and still endorse her.

I agree, JD!  That election was really a "race to the bottom..."  I considered Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, but he came off like such a drug-addled idiot that I couldn't see voting for him.  

The Dems are serious gun-grabbers, which turns off a huge part of the electorate & most of Red country. If they would drop that attitude, it would help them.  

Mind you, I have one or two guns that could be grabbed.  Wink


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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 12 2017 at 9:39am
That has always seemed to me to be a good reason for voting Republican.  Some gun control is probably desirable, but most governments run away with that.  Over here, you can't even own an air rifle of low pressure without a firearms licence denied to all but the landed few.  This has resulted in a culture where only the criminals are armed.

Even having said that, allowing the populace unlimited firearms does mean they can vote with their trigger fingers.  It may be costly in human life, but it does buy a class of freedom unavailable to the rest of us.  Full revolutions are even more costly after all.


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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 12 2017 at 11:46am
Funny Meme About Donald Trump vs. News Papers
Sorry!  I couldn't resist.....


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: June 12 2017 at 6:16pm
now Trump is making noise about removing Mueller

if he does

IMPEACH AND IMPRISON

this guy is TRULY a threat to this country


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 13 2017 at 1:53am
I'm sorry folks, I can't help it.  I found a voting/ballot/poll card I can put a cross on with confidence.  
My political affiliation More


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