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Topic: Worst flu season on record headed to U.S?Posted By: Albert
Subject: Worst flu season on record headed to U.S?
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 8:11pm
Interesting article. Not sure how this could be the worst flu season on record when including the 1918 pandemic, but apparently it's going to be a bad one. If any of this is accurate, the WHO will need to make some announcements, one of which possibly declaring a pandemic.
Bracing for the worst flu season on record
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This year, 2017, is braced to historically be the http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-21/why-flu-is-more-deadly-than-the-common-cold-the-conversation/8963580" rel="nofollow - - spike of influenza cases from Australia and New Zealand, who have recently come out of their winter season.
With three classified types of influenza, A, B, and C, it is A and B viruses which cause the large outbreaks. In Europe, nearly all seasonal flu is http://oxfordmedicine.com/view/10.1093/med/9780198729228.001.0001/med-9780198729228-chapter-80" rel="nofollow - - 170,000 influenza cases, nearly three times the amount compared to last year. Vaccination is an important part of protecting against the flu, especially with the record high amount of cases already reported this season. Research is also now suggesting that being in a http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41400513" rel="nofollow - Hover over each icon below to learn more about influenza.
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Replies: Posted By: John L.
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 3:07am
More likely a season like we had in 1968, I remember the misery still of the Hong Kong flu pandemic, and of course vaccine was too late. This year egg based vaccines may not even work. And in addition to my earlier posts, early cases now starting in Pennsylvania, Colorado and South Carolina.
------------- John L.
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 2:18pm
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 4:56pm
OK so why will the current vaccine not work. Egg has always been the way flu vaccine is and has been made.
I had my son get the quadrivalent yesterday because of the cytokine storm that may have been the reason for deaths in Australia.
As my old mama says, "Do your best so you do not feel guilty." I did my best had my son and I get a flu shot the rest is up to GOD.
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 5:31pm
Good question about the vaccine. I'm wondering why the CDC and media are not warning the public that we are facing something similar to the Hong Kong pandemic. The U.S. is clueless what it's in for. They could at least warn people to get the vaccine, even if it is worthless. Each year we hear to the vaccine hype and flu season is approaching. This is going to be one of the worst flu seasons ever, and not a peep, lol. Somethings are so strange you almost have to laugh about it.
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 5:40pm
It seems to have our health service worried.
Free vaccinations are given out over here according to predicted risk. Every year I have had to beg for it and some years am refused - too healthy! This year, our surgery rang us to offer both the vaccine and the pneumonia jab. To say this is out of character is to understate the situation.
Genetic drift is quite fast in flu viruses, so no vaccine lasts very long. However, the most recent adaptations are usually sufficiently small to mean that the out-of-date vaccines will still give some protection, just not as much. So, you would still get the flu if vaccinated, but would be far less likely to become seriously, or fatally, ill from it.
I have no idea why the egg produced vaccines are less effective this time. Statistics say they are, but don't give any clues as to why.
FluMom has it about right. Get the best you can and then feel at peace with whatever you achieved. Our surgery, for all their determination to vaccinate the largest number it can this year, offered egg based trivalent vaccines, I grabbed it with both hands! Some protection beat none. It still put me down for 48 hours though!
------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving.
Posted By: John L.
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 5:41am
For the explanation re. the egg based vaccines read my earlier post about the WHO swapping strains for next years Southern Hemisphere vaccine. I yesterday obtained my shot of Flucelvac Quadvalent (they also have a trivalent thus) which I think may be the only cell based vaccine in the U.S Basically you will see in teh article that recent H3N2 strains were found to have mutated away from the vaccine strain that was used to grow well in eggs, but not from the different strain used in cellular derived manufacture. Thus the current egg based vaccines are less likely to work as well, I am not saying they will not work at all.
------------- John L.
Posted By: arirish
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 9:28am
Comment: I read somewhere that it mutated in Hong Kong back in June!
Thousands are hit by virus flu strain not covered by vaccine
MORE than half the patients in western Sydney diagnosed with the influenza A virus have also been carrying the mutant strain of the virus, widely known as the killer flu.
The flu season which began in June, placed a strain on nurses at Blacktown Hospital as it filled up hospital beds and emergency departments.
The mutated influenza A H3N2 strain was identified as responsible for most of the 300 elderly lives lost across the east coast even though it was included in this year’s flu vaccine.
Western Sydney Local Health District (WSLHD) Population Health director Professor Stephen Corbett said the flu was continuing to pose a risk.
“Across NSW, between 50-70 per cent of flu tests in patients during this period were positive for flu A. Only a proportion of flu A tests are further subtypes, and of these around two-thirds were influenza A (H3N2),” Professor Corbett said.
“Across Western Sydney Local Health District, there were 14,555 influenza notifications in the community between June and September, 8300 of which were flu A.”
Out of the 8300 flu A samples tested in western Sydney, around 60 per cent were the mutant strain.
As of September 9, 218 influenza-associated deaths have been reported to NSW public health units.
NSW Health director communicable diseases Dr Vicky Sheppeard said it was “likely that most influenza deaths are due to H3N2” in aged care but not all cases are tested.
Early indications are the virus strain changed in the four months between manufacture and release of the quadrivalent vaccine in April.
However, experts have stressed this means getting the vaccine is more important than ever to reduce the severity of the illness and help slow the spread of the killer strain.
Posted By: John L.
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 12:50pm
Add California to my list of outbreaks, and now a first flu death there. From http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/sd-me-flu-death-20171006-story.html
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First flu death of the season reported
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San Diego has recorded its first http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/topic/health/diseases-illnesses/flu-HEDAI0000047-topic.html" rel="nofollow - flu death of the 2017-18 season, according to the county Health and Human Services Agency.
An
87-year-old San Diego man, who had other unspecified medical
conditions, died after testing positive for influenza infection. He had
not been vaccinated.
At the moment, it looks like this season will
be a rough one. Already the health department has confirmed 203 flu
cases, more than three times the 60 cases confirmed by the same point
last year.
Last season the flu killed 86 county residents, including two children, and the first death occurred on Oct. 4.
Public health officials are urging everyone, but especially those
at elevated risk of flu complications, to roll up their sleeves and get
flu shots. Those at increased risk include:
Pregnant women
Those age 65 and older
Children younger than age 5
Nursing home residents
Those with medical conditions such as asthma, chronic lung disease,
heart disease and disorders of the blood, endocrine system, kidney,
liver, metabolism, central nervous system and immune system.
The county is sponsoring a number of free flu clinics in October. Dial 2-1-1 to find the closest location.
------------- John L.
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 2:58pm
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More flu deaths expected as debate over vaccine ensues