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Topic: Donald Trump and Russia conspiracy theory
Posted By: carbon20
Subject: Donald Trump and Russia conspiracy theory
Date Posted: October 14 2017 at 2:33pm

The conservative Donald Trump and Russia conspiracy theory that doesn't add up

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By  http://www.abc.net.au/news/john-barron/167134" rel="nofollow - John Barron

Updated 6 Sep 2017, 4:51am

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Was Donald Trump's unlikely election victory the result of a Russian influence campaign, or is that an excuse cooked up by Democrats still unwilling to admit "Crooked Hillary" lost fair and square?

Former FBI director Robert Mueller is now leading a special counsel's investigation into Russian interference, and any possible collusion with members of the Trump campaign.

Many Democrats are convinced Mueller will find a "smoking gun". Already  http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-emails-smoking-gun-robert-mueller-240414" rel="nofollow - an email from the President's eldest son , Donald Trump Jr, has shown that in June 2016 he was very interested in meeting Russians offering dirt on Mrs Clinton.

And in recent days,  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/28/16215710/felix-sater-trump-russia" rel="nofollow - more evidence  has emerged about Mr Trump's business ties to Russia, and how associates hoped a deal to build Trump Tower Moscow would help win the election for the real estate tycoon, with the assistance of the Kremlin.

But while the Mueller investigation proceeds, and might or might not lead to any criminal indictments or the removal from office of Donald Trump, a counter-narrative has emerged.

What if, as President Trump maintains, the Russia thing is a "made up story"?

What if somebody else hacked the Democratic National Committee, not Russia, and not to benefit Mr Trump?

False flags and inside jobs

Trump supporter and former US Ambassador to the UN  https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/false-flag/510410/" rel="nofollow - John Bolton has described  US intelligence agency claims of Russian involvement in the DNC hack as a "false flag" because, he believes, "a really sophisticated foreign intelligence service would not leave any finger prints".

Bolton's use of that phrase "false flag" is intriguing. That's exactly how conspiracy theorists including Trump's favourite shock jock Alex Jones of Infowars.com describe events like the Oklahoma Bombing in 1995, the September 11 attacks in 2001 and the 2012 Sandy Hook elementary school massacre.

Jones has appalled and enraged the families of the victims of those tragic attacks by claiming they were "inside jobs" staged by the government.

But Donald Trump once gushed Jones' reputation is "amazing", and promised him "I will not let you down". (Not surprising perhaps, given Trump's White House campaign effectively began by pushing the groundless "birther" conspiracy that president Barack Obama was born in Kenya and therefore not legitimately elected).

But now, as Mr Trump faces questions about his own legitimacy, his defenders like Jones and Sean Hannity on Fox News are helping to spread competing explanations — including the case of Seth Rich.

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A death on the street

The 27-year-old Rich was walking home from a bar in Washington DC's Columbia Heights district in the early hours of July 10 last year when he was shot twice. He was taken to hospital but died two hours later — one of 139 murders in the US capital last year.

Rich was an employee of the DNC, where he was director of voter expansion data. Police said his killing looked like a robbery gone wrong, although his phone, watch and wallet were still on his body.

The violent death of someone associated with the Democratic Party at the height of election season set the internet alight with theories. Infowars, Breitbart and Fox all aired claims he had been murdered for leaking the DNC's emails to Wikileaks. Founder of the website, Australian-born Julian Assange, fuelled the flames of speculation by saying cryptically "our sources take risks" and offering a $20,000 reward for information about Rich's killing.

But Assange, who has asserted Russia wasn't behind the DNC hack, never directly said Rich was his source, and  http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/26/politics/julian-assange-dnc-email-leak-hack/index.html" rel="nofollow - has also said  Wikileaks likes to "create maximum ambiguity as to who our sources are."

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Fox News then reported, before hastily retracting,  http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/254852337-story" rel="nofollow - unsubstantiated claims  by a private investigator that there was evidence Rich had been in contact with Wikileaks before his death.

The fact checkers at Politifact have described it as a  http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/may/26/patriotcriercom/conspiracy-theory-comey-hid-seth-richs-ties-wikile/" rel="nofollow - "persistent and unfounded conspiracy theory ". They awarded an even more elaborate claim that former FBI director James Comey knew Rich was the Wikileaks source and covered up for Hillary its worst possible "Pants on Fire!" rating.

The IT worker for Congress

But it doesn't end there. Many of the same right-wing media outlets have also been focused on another intriguing case, involving a 37-year-old Pakistani-American IT worker named Imran Awan.

Awan, his wife and some family members set up shop in 2004 providing a range of tech services to Democratic Party congressional offices in Washington DC, installing PCs, fixing printers, and resetting passwords.

Earlier this year a criminal complaint alleged Awan conspired to defraud the congressional credit union of $165,000 which was part of $283,000 he wired back to Pakistan.

Capitol Hill police also looked into accusations that IT equipment and money had gone missing from a number of offices, and referred their suspicions of a "procurement scam" to the FBI. That saw Awan lose access to the congressional computer network, so most of his clients dropped him.

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But for months Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz resisted sacking Awan.

She said there was no evidence of illegality, he was entitled to due process and she was concerned Awan was the target of an anti-Muslim witch hunt.

Awan was arrested trying to leave the US in July and has since been charged with a number of offences relating to that loan and money transfer to Pakistan, but nothing else. He has now been sacked by Mrs Wasserman Schulz.

The idea of a Muslim under investigation on Capitol Hill with access to the computers belonging to senior Democrats is fertile ground for further speculation. Particularly because Mrs Wasserman Schultz is the former chair of the Democratic National Committee — the target of the hacks published by Wikileaks.

Perhaps it's Awan, not Russia, that stole the DNC emails, or maybe they were  https://bigleaguepolitics.com/sources-awan-case-relates-directly-seth-rich-case/" rel="nofollow - working together !

Trump's retweet

In late July Mr Trump  https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/890542946570952705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fblogs%2Fthe_slatest%2F2017%2F08%2F04%2Fthe_investigation_of_imran_awan_and_house_it_staffers_for_debbie_wasserman.html" rel="nofollow - retweeted a story  castigating the mainstream media for ignoring the Awan story.

And then  https://mobile.twitter.com/Sheraleeable/status/892423219961114624/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fheavy.com%2Fnews%2F2017%2F08%2Fseth-rich-imran-awan-partying-theories-truth-hoax-debunked-photos-rumors-dnc-leaks%2F" rel="nofollow - a photo of Rich  emerged showing him with a group of friends hours before his death with a man resembling Imran Awan in the background. The  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmn0yyPkKk0" rel="nofollow - internet  went  https://newspunch.com/imran-awan-seth-rich/" rel="nofollow - berserk  — AWAN KILLED SETH RICH!!!

Former Trump campaign advisor Roger Stone  https://mobile.twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/892265715780026368?p=v" rel="nofollow - tweeted : "FACT - Wasserman-Schulz "IT consultant" Awan was partying with Seth Rich the night of his murder!"

Except that it wasn't Imran Awan, it was a friend of Rich's named Miguel Huerta. There is no evidence linking Awan to Rich.

Quest for an alternative narrative

Right now we don't know why Seth Rich was killed, and we may never know. But all of the speculation and theorising is designed to do one thing: find an alternative narrative to the Trump "Russia thing".

By the same token, despite there being a lot more evidence, we don't yet know what the Mueller investigation will uncover about Russian election tampering and possible Trump collusion.

At times both sides are guilty of doing what the worst conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones do around events like Oklahoma, September 11 and Sandy Hook.

They find a single, sinister explanation that confirms a pre-existing view.

The drive to impeach Mr Trump for being illegitimately elected before the evidence has been presented has clear echoes of Trump's own disgraceful "birtherism" conspiracy against Mr Obama.

Sometimes there are singular reasons for why something happens, and sometimes there are many.

But particularly at a time when distrust of  http://www.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx" rel="nofollow - the media  and  https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-dont-trust-their-institutions-anymore/" rel="nofollow - public institutions  is so high, we tend to want to believe in a secret over-arching explanation, and believe that there's more to the story than we are being told.

And of course, sometimes there actually is.

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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: October 18 2017 at 4:39pm

Trump Campaign Staffers Pushed Russian Propaganda Days Before the Election

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-staffers-pushed-russian-propaganda-days-before-the-election




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 05 2017 at 1:20pm

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Failed To Disclose Ties To Vladimir Putin

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wilbur-ross-russia-putin_us_59ff5495e4b04cdbeb33f901?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


good grief

is there ANYONE in the Trump administration who is not tied to the Russians ?


maybe the cleaning lady ???LOL


and golly gee whiz

they ALL seem to have such poor memories


"he failed to disclose"

you see that phrase EVERYWHERE in the Trump administration don't you ???




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: November 05 2017 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

good grief

is there ANYONE in the Trump administration who is not tied to the Russians ?

maybe the cleaning lady ???LOL

and golly gee whiz

they ALL seem to have such poor memories

"he failed to disclose"

you see that phrase EVERYWHERE in the Trump administration don't you ???

Ha!!  I've given this careful thought....after the collapse of the USSR, a great deal of state wealth ended up in the hands of a chosen few, "oligarchs," who then took control of state industries including oil, steel, aluminum etc. 

These oligarchs had SO much money, and were so poor at managing money, that they reached out to the money-boys of the West with sacks of cash to invest, and investment opportunities in post-Soviet oil & gas.  

I think there was so much of this Russian funny-money sloshing around that nearly everyone in finance, real estate, banking etc. ended up being contaminated to some extent.  

However, Ross and the others were certainly aware of their issues with Russian cash, and conveniently forgot to bring this up in hearings.  

See the graphic display in the article which shows the many inter-connections! 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/trump-russia/?utm_term=.169aaca3d959" rel="nofollow - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/trump-russia/?utm_term=.169aaca3d959



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: November 05 2017 at 10:18pm
Wilbur Ross was named in the "Paradise Papers"

Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

A top member of Donald Trump's administration has business links with Russian allies of President Vladimir Putin who are under US sanctions, the Paradise Papers have revealed.

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has an interest in Navigator Holdings, which earns millions a year transporting oil and gas for Russian energy firm Sibur.

Two major Sibur shareholders are under some form of US sanctions.

A commerce department spokesman did not dispute the revelations.

"Secretary Ross recuses himself from any matters focused on transoceanic shipping vessels," the spokesman told BBC Panorama, adding that the secretary "works closely with Commerce Department ethics officials to ensure the highest ethical standards".


What ethical standards??  And more a case of profiting from making Russian Great.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41876939" rel="nofollow - More on Wilbur Ross and his long time links with Trump:




Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: November 06 2017 at 2:27am
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

good grief

is there ANYONE in the Trump administration who is not tied to the Russians ?

maybe the cleaning lady ???LOL

Нет, не я. Я просто чищу самовар.



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 06 2017 at 3:54am
What's happened to the Chump cheer leaders?

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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 06 2017 at 12:51pm

Russian Lawyer Who Met With Donald Trump Jr. Claims He Offered A Quid Pro Quo


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-russian-lawyer-meeting_us_5a006330e4b04cdbeb34c397?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


poor Satori is SO confused

quid pro quo was something  you only heard in regards to Clinton

apparently it was so effective that Donnie Jr gave it a try ???LOL


ya can't  swing a dead cat without hitting a Ruskie in the Trump White House LOL



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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 07 2017 at 6:34am

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/carter-page-testimony-verifies-key" rel="nofollow - Bombshell Carter Page Testimony Verifies Key Parts Of Steele Dossier


http://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/carter-page-testimony-verifies-key



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 07 2017 at 9:18am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/7/1713438/-Carter-Page-s-testimony-provides-more-bombshells-than-the-Battle-of-Britain-and-more-insanity" rel="nofollow - Carter Page's testimony provides more bombshells than the Battle of Britain, and more insanity

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/7/1713438/-Carter-Page-s-testimony-provides-more-bombshells-than-the-Battle-of-Britain-and-more-insanity

Page says this
“Whereas I have never done anything wrong in Russia, no documents, records, electronically stored information including email, communication, recordings, data and tangible things could reasonably lead to the discovery of any facts within the investigation’s publicly announced parameters as it relates to actions by the Russian government.”

and then refuses to release ANY paperwork,emails etc

he pleads the Fifth

yeah he's innocent LOL


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Posted By: Medclinician
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/7/1713438/-Carter-Page-s-testimony-provides-more-bombshells-than-the-Battle-of-Britain-and-more-insanity" rel="nofollow - Carter Page's testimony provides more bombshells than the Battle of Britain, and more insanity

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/7/1713438/-Carter-Page-s-testimony-provides-more-bombshells-than-the-Battle-of-Britain-and-more-insanity

Page says this
“Whereas I have never done anything wrong in Russia, no documents, records, electronically stored information including email, communication, recordings, data and tangible things could reasonably lead to the discovery of any facts within the investigation’s publicly announced parameters as it relates to actions by the Russian government.”

and then refuses to release ANY paperwork,emails etc

he pleads the Fifth

yeah he's innocent LOL


There is still no evidence that links Trump to anything criminal the Russians might have been doing. The link is just not there and it is not for lack of trying. Even today as they desperate try to prove the document later paid for by the Democrats - all his body guard at the Beauty Pageant in Moscow can say was he denied the offer or prostitutes.

I can tell you I have been to Washington D.C. and stayed in hotel one mile away from the capital and there were prostitutes everywhere. Four rode in the elevator as I returned from the vending machines to my wife and tried to hit on me. One was male.

It is no great secret that many people in the highest political position use prostitutes daily in D.C. Also even JFK had women brought to him by his "protectors" who .. well we won't go there.

The whole investigation should be on Hillary was has solid hard core evidence of being paid by Russia to broker the Uranium deal. People have gone to prison and that is where she should go as well.

The news loves this drama, which is a drama and unsupported by any hard evidence. If they continue long enough they might get enough people to lie - but it is unlikely.

Time to look at the Democrats which have much more solid base of corruption and collusion with Russia.

Medclinician


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 3:15pm
if you haven't done anything wrong
then why are you LYING?

said in reference to EVERYONE in the Trump administration
they have all,to a man, LIED repeatedly

and at this point it is a PROVEN FACT that Putin wanted Trump in the WH,not HIllary
why ???????????


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 5:25pm
Makes sense - collude with Russia so they could lose the election. 









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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 7:53pm
Jacksdad you crack me up

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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 11:16am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/10/1714522/-Report-Papadopolous-Lied-About-Russia-To-FBI-To-Protect-Trump" rel="nofollow - Report: Papadopolous Lied About Russia To FBI To Protect Trump.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/10/1714522/-Report-Papadopolous-Lied-About-Russia-To-FBI-To-Protect-Trump

WHAT ???

someone in the Trump administration LYING ???

why I never !!! LOL


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 10:08pm
Not quite Russia but related to other autocratic leaders


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41947451" rel="nofollow - Ex-Trump aide Mike Flynn 'offered $15m by Turkey for Gulen'


Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

A former top White House aide was reportedly offered $15m (£11.5m) to help forcibly remove a Muslim cleric from the US and deliver him to Turkey.

Ex-national security adviser Michael Flynn and his son discussed the alleged plot with Turkish representatives, NBC News and Wall Street Journal report....

Mr Flynn reportedly discussed having Mr Gulen transported on a private jet to the Turkish prison island of Imrali.

Maybe the $15 000 000 was not enough to act on, but it seems to have been enough to get his interest in serious discussions.



Posted By: Medclinician
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 12:42am
This threads continues to make no sense. There is no proof and hasn't been for a year as the Democrats lost the election that Trump colluded with Russia. There is a mountain of evidence the Hillary (and I have posted a thread on this) took money from the Russians directly to the Clinton Foundation in a pay for play scheme to give them 20% of our uranium. This was a major breach of national security and provided them with material make nuclear bombs to use on the U.S.

They can dig up any number of people who Trump knew or worked for him and they still will never prove he worked with Russia to win the election. He did not.  Russia is not our friend and obviously spies on us, hacks into our net and servers and government agencies, and has moles at our highest levels of government. One of their last plants was mole who was in charge of the investigation.

Even the Democrats want to move away from the whole Clinton mess which could really hurt them in the coming Congressional elections and cost them valuable seats in the House and Senate.

They need a hero or even heroine to champion for them who is not a Social Justice Warrior wanna be who really isn't (Hillary).

They need to move away from Trump bashing as it did not help them win the election and was really poor method to win the rust belt and coal miners which hurt them.

Nothing is more tedious than listening to people not from America bash America. We were the most powerful nation on earth and we need someone to make America great again. It wasn't Hillary for sure. Trump is trying amidst all the false news and hostile media.

The drama continues along side which older woman teachers molesting male students, as all the cougars get a contact high from the thought. It is sick. And these are the kind of people who supported Hillary. Not the majority. Minorities that were courted and terrorized that if they did not put Hillary in they would be deported and they better vote for her. 

It is not against the law to meet with a Russian. There is no gotcha in this and the most guilty are the DNC which was fixed primary which was as far from democracy as you can get.

The beat goes on and Trump did not work with Russian and is our president.

Get over it and move on. 

Medclinician


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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 3:31am
Uranium does not make bombs, Med, unless it is enriched or used to make plutonium, the expensive, high technical and dangerous part of the process.  There are vast reserves of the stuff all over the globe.  Making money from selling it is no more dangerous than selling titanium, lead or gold.  Growing rich is not a crime either.  Avoiding paying taxes on your profits can be, but Hilary's taxes are public knowledge.

Dealing with the Russians is also not automatically a crime.  It only becomes one if the dealings are inherently dishonest, like money laundering - which is a federal crime, or interfering with the results of an election - which could be treasonous.

Hilary's campaign was a joke!  When it came to bashing the other side, she lost that as well as the election.  She was nowhere near as adept at it than Trump.  Although it was probably his greater media savvy that turned the tide, that was how Nixon won back in the day - he grasped the value of TV the way Trump "got" twitter.

I agree that Hilary is probably not the best "social justice warrior" choice.  But, she lost so why harp on?  She is the disaster America avoided.  Trump is the one you got.


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 4:36am
the uranium deal doesnt damage our national security
that sale was reviewed and APPROVED by multiple federal agencies
it was no big secret
it was investigated two years ago and no wrong doing was found
but hey
investigate it again if it makes ya happy

Benghazi was subject to SEVEN investigations
at a cost to taxpayers of MILLIONS
thousand of hours of testimony produced NOTHING actionable
and poor Med is complaining about one little ol Mueller look see ???
Trump will in all likelihood escape justice
but those around him ???
he will throw them under the bus if it protects himself

Mueller is just helping Trump "drain the swamp"
look at all the liars he has exposed
pretty much EVERYONE he has questioned in the Trump administration LOL

I think its only fair that the Repubs got 7 Benghazi's
the Democrats should get 7 investigations tooLOL

and let me point out yet once again
that Hillary WON THE POPULAR VOTER by MILLIONS !!!!!!!!!
the people of America CHOSE HILLARY
it was the antiquated Electoral College that installed the FAILED Trumpen Furor as Pres
and don't YOU forget it LOLLOLLOL

and the "beauty" of  a failed Trump Presidency is that the people who supported him
are going to be the ones to suffer the most
we already see that happening don't we ???
too bad
sooooooooo sad
but bad choices invariably lead to BAD consequences


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 4:50am
Med
why don't you spend your time telling us what a great job Trump is doing ???

great job in Puerto RIco for example
how about health care? no replacement for Obamacare???
a friend of mine had her insurance to up to $15,000 for next year,thank you Trump !!!
how about the new tax plan?
Trump promised he had a plan but of course we know he NEVER did
the Republicans threw something together at the last minute
how is the middle class going to come out?
what  do all the analysts think ???
hmm
not so good?

ANYONE tired of winning yet ???LOLLOLLOL

your dealing with a HIGH information voter Med
so don't even try and put something over on me
cause I will call you on it in a New York minute
I'm nowhere as easy to fool as your average Trump supporter is LOL


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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 5:03am
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Trump promised he had a plan but of course we know he NEVER did
the Republicans threw something together at the last minute


That's something everyone seems to forget - during his campaign he promised all kinds of things including something that sounded very much like universal healthcare (and let's not forget tax breaks for everyone but the wealthy). Now that push comes to shove, he's sitting in the White House demanding that the GOP bring him something to sign because he clearly has nothing to contribute, and apparently never did.




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"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 5:58am
he literally promised everything to everybody
thats fine for getting the vote
but at some point you have to put up or shut up
his bluff has been called
there is about as much substance to Trump as there is to a Sta-Puff marshmallow
all hat and no cowboy
all sizzle and no steak
the majority of American voters saw this
unfortunately plenty did not
and now we all must suffer under this failure of a buffoon


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 12:00pm
I know Hilary gad a few half-baked policies to offer:  - nothing too useful.

How much less of a disaster that would have been!  Half a loaf is better than no loaf at all.


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 1:08pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/11/1714773/-In-His-Own-Scary-AF-Words-Trump-is-a-Traitor-Who-Believes-Putin-And-is-Selling-Out-America" rel="nofollow - In His Own Scary AF Words: Trump is a Traitor Who Believes Putin And is Selling Out America

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/11/1714773/-In-His-Own-Scary-AF-Words-Trump-is-a-Traitor-Who-Believes-Putin-And-is-Selling-Out-America

unbelieveable

HINT: Donnie just cause ya got a thought or two in yer head,doesn't mean yo have to blab it
especially when you side with our main adversary in the world
geez
and this guy is President of the United States ???
can you imagine the UPROAR if Obama said something like this ???


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 14 2017 at 7:14am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/14/1715465/-The-Wikileaks-Trump-Jr-shows-a-conspiracy-and-that-Wikileaks-is-an-absolute-fraud" rel="nofollow - The Wikileaks / Trump Jr exchange shows a conspiracy ... and that Wikileaks is an absolute fraud

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/14/1715465/-The-Wikileaks-Trump-Jr-shows-a-conspiracy-and-that-Wikileaks-is-an-absolute-fraud

at this point the evidence is VERY  CLEAR

the Trump campaign,Wilkileaks and the Russians three peas in a pod




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 14 2017 at 12:47pm

Edward Joseph Snowden (born June 21, 1983) is an American  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_professional" rel="nofollow - computer professional , former  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency" rel="nofollow - Central Intelligence Agency  (CIA) employee, and former contractor for the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States" rel="nofollow - United States government  who copied and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_leak" rel="nofollow - leaked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information" rel="nofollow - classified information  from the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency" rel="nofollow - National Security Agency  (NSA) in 2013 without authorization.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_%282013%E2%80%93present%29" rel="nofollow - His disclosures  revealed numerous  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance" rel="nofollow - global surveillance  programs, many run by the NSA and the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes" rel="nofollow - Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance with the cooperation of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_company" rel="nofollow - telecommunication companies  and European governments.

In 2013, Snowden was hired by an NSA contractor,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton" rel="nofollow - Booz Allen Hamilton , after previous employment with  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell" rel="nofollow - Dell  and the CIA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#cite_note-VanityFair-1" rel="nofollow - [1]  On May 20, 2013, Snowden flew to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong" rel="nofollow - Hong Kong  after leaving his job at an  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Cryptologic_Center" rel="nofollow - NSA facility in Hawaii , and in early June he revealed thousands of classified NSA documents to journalists  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald" rel="nofollow - Glenn Greenwald ,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Poitras" rel="nofollow - Laura Poitras , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewen_MacAskill" rel="nofollow - Ewen MacAskill . Snowden came to international attention after stories based on the material appeared in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian" rel="nofollow - The Guardian  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post" rel="nofollow - The Washington Post . Further disclosures were made by other publications including  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Spiegel" rel="nofollow - Der Spiegel  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times" rel="nofollow - The New York Times .

On June 21, 2013, the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice" rel="nofollow - U.S. Department of Justice  unsealed charges against Snowden of two counts of violating the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917" rel="nofollow - Espionage Act of 1917  and theft of government property. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#cite_note-wapocharges-2" rel="nofollow - [2]  Two days later, he flew into  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow" rel="nofollow - Moscow 's  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheremetyevo_International_Airport" rel="nofollow - Sheremetyevo Airport , but Russian authorities noted that his  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_passport" rel="nofollow - U.S. passport  had been cancelled and he was restricted to the airport terminal for over one month. Russia ultimately granted him  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum" rel="nofollow - right of asylum  for one year, and repeated extensions have permitted him to stay at least until 2020. He reportedly lives in an undisclosed location in Moscow, and continues to seek asylum elsewhere in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow - [3]



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1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 14 2017 at 5:10pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/14/1715542/-Republican-Strategist-Steve-Schmidt-Goes-There-VP-Pence-is-a-Titanic-Fraud-and-Nonstop-Liar" rel="nofollow - Republican Strategist Steve Schmidt Goes There: VP Pence is a "Titanic Fraud," and "Nonstop Liar."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/14/1715542/-Republican-Strategist-Steve-Schmidt-Goes-There-VP-Pence-is-a-Titanic-Fraud-and-Nonstop-Liar

[Mika] Brzezinski said the vice president was either lying or “willfully stupid” for not following up on the Russia questions that have engulfed the Trump presidency....

Schmidt agreed.

“I think that over these months the vice president’s exposed himself as a titanic fraud,” Schmidt said. “When it comes to consensual relationships between gay Americans, he’s never tongue-tied on that. We don’t hear from him on Roy Moore. We don’t hear from him…

“The truth of the matter is... 100 percent of the people around this administration, when asked a question about...the Russian involvement in this election, they lie about it,” Schmidt said. ...“100% of the time.”


even LOW INFORMATION voters should have this figured at by nowLOL


the evidence is MASSIVE

and EVERYDAY more and more comes to light



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 14 2017 at 7:24pm

Donald Trump Jr private messages with WikiLeaks 'take the breath away', says former CIA director


https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-private-messages-142300209.html


if the day ends in a Y

somebody with the last name of Trump is going to be lying about something LOL



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 16 2017 at 3:54pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/16/1716278/-Did-Mueller-Just-Flip-The-Man-Who-Could-Bring-Down-Flynn-And-Thereby-Bring-Down-Trump" rel="nofollow - Did Mueller Just Flip The Man Who Could Bring Down Flynn


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 16 2017 at 4:02pm

Jared Kushner Failed To Disclose WikiLeaks Email And Russia Dinner Invite, Senators Say


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-wikileaks_us_5a0df8a0e4b0b9cb33227a71?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


is there ANYONE in the Trump family who even has heard the word "truthful" ???


lie after lie after lie

followed by more LIES



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 16 2017 at 5:47pm

Mueller Has Subpoenaed Documents Relating to Russia from the Trump Campaign: Report

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/mueller-has-subpoenaed-documents-relating-russia-trump-campaign-report


The Wall Street Journal reports that a source has confirmed investigators under special counsel Robert Mueller subpoenaed the 2016 campaign of then-candidate Donald Trump for https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-issued-subpoena-for-russia-related-documents-from-trump-campaign-officials-1510875492" rel="nofollow - documents that contain Russia-related keywords .




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 18 2017 at 4:31am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/17/1716652/-more-secret-Kushner-meetings-to-be-disclosed-latest-omitted-is-one-with-Russian-mobster" rel="nofollow - more secret Kushner meetings to be disclosed, latest omitted is one with Russian mobster

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/17/1716652/-more-secret-Kushner-meetings-to-be-disclosed-latest-omitted-is-one-with-Russian-mobster

So Kushner previously failed to disclose a contact from May 2016 where a Russian pal of the NRA happened to also launder money for organized crime, and also reached out to the Trump campaign.

can the Trump administration go even 10 or 15 minutes without telling a lie in regards to their Russian collusion ???

just 10 minutes thats all I ask LOL


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 21 2017 at 2:10am
WOW !!!

even worse than I thought

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/20/1717231/-Russia-Has-Owned-Trump-For-Quite-Some-Time-And-Mueller-Knows-It-Tick-Tock-Impeachment-Clock" rel="nofollow - Russia Has Owned Trump For Quite Some Time And Mueller Knows It; Tick, Tock Impeachment Clock

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/20/1717231/-Russia-Has-Owned-Trump-For-Quite-Some-Time-And-Mueller-Knows-It-Tick-Tock-Impeachment-Clock

Christopher Steele said that the KGB, “was cultivating Trump for at least five years,” as a useful idiot. That estimate is conservative at best.

no wonder Trump is so DESPERATE to shut Mueller down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 22 2017 at 3:28pm

Russia Wanted Trump As President And It Got Him. Now What Does America Do?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-one-year_us_5a14a7eee4b03dec8248e1b9?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Russia’s tyrant works to help the Republican nominee win America’s presidential election.

Members of the nominee’s campaign know of the effort and try to coordinate with it.

The nominee wins the election and then, realizing the FBI is looking into the whole mess, fires the person running the investigation in hopes of putting an end to it.


the facts are clear

ONLY very low information voters still don't get the obvious



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 22 2017 at 3:46pm
EVERYDAY another piece of the puzzle

Exclusive: Manafort flight records show deeper Kremlin ties than previously known

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-manafort-flight-records-show-deeper-kremlin-ties-than-previously-known/ar-BBFvRMd?li=BBnb4R7


Suspicions about Manafort have been fueled by a former British spy's opposition research on Trump. In a now-famous dossier, former MI6 officer Christopher Steele quoted an ethnic Russian close to Trump as saying that Manafort had managed "a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation" between the campaign and the Kremlin.


wait

what was that last part ?

Manafort had managed "a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation" between the campaign and the Kremlin.






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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 22 2017 at 6:32pm

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/former-reporter-fox-blocked-me-digging" rel="nofollow - Former Reporter: Fox Blocked Me From Digging Into Trump’s Russia Ties

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/former-reporter-fox-blocked-me-digging


“Fox is just buying what the White House is selling,” she said.


even the FAUX News Network KNOWS Trump IS guilty LOL



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: November 22 2017 at 9:58pm
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

EVERYDAY another piece of the puzzle

Exclusive: Manafort flight records show deeper Kremlin ties than previously known

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-manafort-flight-records-show-deeper-kremlin-ties-than-previously-known/ar-BBFvRMd?li=BBnb4R7


Suspicions about Manafort have been fueled by a former British spy's opposition research on Trump. In a now-famous dossier, former MI6 officer Christopher Steele quoted an ethnic Russian close to Trump as saying that Manafort had managed "a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation" between the campaign and the Kremlin.


wait

what was that last part ?

Manafort had managed "a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation" between the campaign and the Kremlin.

Thanks, Satori!  Manafort is a self-serving traitor who should be hung.  He has abused the US electoral system and government to his own evil, selfish ends, and he deserves everything he is going to reap from his greed.  Good riddance.  



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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 23 2017 at 1:30am
Tell us what you really think Doc. 😂

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12 Monkeys...............
1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 23 2017 at 7:28am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/22/1717980/-The-Top-Secret-info-that-Trump-gave-the-Russians" rel="nofollow - The Top Secret info that Trump gave the Russians

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/22/1717980/-The-Top-Secret-info-that-Trump-gave-the-Russians

John McCain probably revealed less to the KGB in 5+ years of torture at the Hanoi Hilton than Trump did in 5 minutes in the Oval. https://t.co/mlq6ndE9FE" rel="nofollow - - https://twitter.com/philiprucker/s - tatus/864225378423984128 


this whole Russian thing is way worse than even I thought
no wonder Trump is sweating bullets and wetting himself


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: November 23 2017 at 10:23am
No Doubt at all.  McCain is a hero and a patriot.


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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: November 23 2017 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

Tell us what you really think Doc. 😂

My pleasure!!  I have been a lifelong Republican, in the Teddy Roosevelt/Ronald Reagan vein, and Manafort is a sleazy, oily carpetbagger who has personally profited from the misery and death of unfortunates around the world including citizens of Philippines and Ukraine.   He has besmirched my party and our country.  


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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: November 23 2017 at 11:04pm
Is Michael Flynn now singing?

Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

Lawyers for former top White House aide Michael Flynn have told Donald Trump's legal team they can no longer discuss the investigation into alleged Russia interference in the 2016 US election, media reports say.

....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/us/politics/flynn-mueller-russia-trump.html" rel="nofollow - The New York Times, citing four unnamed people involved in the case, say this cooperation agreement has now ended. CNBC say they have confirmed the move.

It indicates Mr Flynn may be cooperating with prosecutors or may be negotiating a deal, reports say. This is because lawyers must stop sharing information when one client is cooperating with prosecutors and another is still under investigation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42105048" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42105048


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: November 24 2017 at 12:39am
Like a canary!!!!!!

Doc love your work lol

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12 Monkeys...............
1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: November 24 2017 at 2:17pm

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/michael-flynn-has-something-trump-lawyers" rel="nofollow - Michael Flynn Has Something On Trump, Lawyers Say


https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/michael-flynn-has-something-trump-lawyers

“I negotiated a cooperation deal for a target with Mueller's office when he was U.S. Atty and lemme tell ya, he's not gonna give one to Flynn unless he implicates someone up the ladder. That means Kushner, Don Jr., or Big Daddy,” https://twitter.com/NormEisen/status/933868687282638848" rel="nofollow - wrote Norm Eisner, a former White House Special Counsel for Ethics on Twitter.

“Prosecutors accept cooperation only if you can provide ‘substantial assistance.’ Higher up in the food chain. Stay tuned…,” wrote Preet Bharara‏, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, whom Trump fired early this year after he refused to resign.


oh dear

I hope this didn't spoil Trump's Thanksgiving  LOL




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: November 24 2017 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

Like a canary!!!!!!

Doc love your work lol

Thanks, check this out! 

Political guru Paul Manafort took at least 18 trips to Moscow and was in frequent contact with Vladimir Putin’s allies for nearly a decade as a consultant in Russia and Ukraine for oligarchs and pro-Kremlin parties.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/article186102003.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/article186102003.html

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/article186102003.html#storylink=cpy




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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: December 01 2017 at 7:16am

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/mike-drop-flynn-pleads-guilty-today-lying" rel="nofollow - MIKE DROP: Flynn Pleads Guilty Today To Lying To FBI

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/mike-drop-flynn-pleads-guilty-today-lying

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/breaking-trump-urged-top-republicans-end" rel="nofollow - BREAKING: Trump Urged Top Republicans To End Russia Investigation

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/breaking-trump-urged-top-republicans-end


yeah 'cause this is how innocent people behave LOL


and the BIG question IS ???


did Flynn make a deal?

and if he did

WHO is going DOWN ???





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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 01 2017 at 1:53pm
and will Chump sack Mueller before he gets SENT to the Big House for TREASON............or is that the CHAIR ????????????? lol

..................a fitting end to a DOUCHBAG..............


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12 Monkeys...............
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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: December 01 2017 at 2:01pm

Stocks close lower after Michael Flynn report sends Wall Street on wild ride

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/us-stock-futures-data-opec-tax-on-the-agenda.html


if this is true ....

JUST IN: https://twitter.com/BrianRoss" rel="nofollow - - @ - BrianRoss on https://twitter.com/ABC" rel="nofollow - - @ - ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians.


Donnie and Kushner must be wetting themselves about now

no wonder Trump pressured top Republicans to try and shut down the investigation



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: December 01 2017 at 2:25pm

If Flynn Is Small Fry, Who’s the Bigger Fish in Mueller’s Net?

The former national-security adviser pleads guilty to making false statements, and is now cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation.

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Updated on December 1 at 12:00 p.m.

Whatever is on President Trump’s Christmas list, it didn’t include Friday’s news: Special Counsel Robert Mueller has charged former National-Security Adviser Michael Flynn with making false statements to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Worse, Flynn pleaded guilty Friday morning at federal court in Washington.

It’s an ironic turn for a man who first reached widespread national attention  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBAjhxjQ90" rel="nofollow - leading chants of “Lock her up!”  about Hillary Clinton at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

And it is monumental news in the special counsel’s investigation, dwarfing even the indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. First, and most bluntly, it’s notable because the former national-security adviser, the closest adviser to the president on the most sensitive issues of defense and national safety, is pleading guilty to a felony committed while he served as national-security adviser.

Second, the move puts Mueller’s investigation inside the White House.  https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/why-a-flynn-indictment-would-be-so-scary-for-the-white-house/545039/" rel="nofollow - As I wrote last month , a Flynn indictment filled the Trump team with particular dread, and for good reason. Before the Flynn charge, Mueller had charged two former campaign staffers with crimes committed outside of the campaign, and a low-level campaign staffer had pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents about his contacts with Russians during the campaign.Flynn, in contrast, was a top adviser to the president in the White House before he was fired in mid-February, for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about his conversations with Kislyak. That made his tenure as national-security adviser historically brief. So far, the special counsel has released little information about the charges, but the  http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4318007-Flynn-Information.html" rel="nofollow - two-page document  indicates that Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak concerned presidential policy. According to the special counsel, Flynn spoke to Kislyak asking him to refrain from responding to new sanctions imposed in the waning days of the Obama administration, and that Flynn asked Kislyak to delay or defeat a UN Security Council vote; he then lied about those conversations with the FBI.The fact that Flynn was operating on behalf of the incoming government represents the first concrete case of Trump’s presidential staff, rather than his campaign team, covering up contacts with Russia. Prosecutors said in  https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download" rel="nofollow - court filings  on Friday that Flynn called a “senior official of the Presidential Transition Team” on December 29, after being contacted by Kislyak, and was told that the transition did not want Russia to escalate the situation. Flynn then called Kislyak to request that Russia respond only in a reciprocal manner, which it subsequently did.The filings also said that, on December 22, “a very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” directed Flynn to contact officials from foreign governments about a pending UN Security Council resolution on the issue of Israel settlements, to find out where they stood and to persuade them to delay or defeat the resolution. Flynn made that request of Kislyak that same day, but Kislyak told him the following day that Russia would not oppose the resolution if it came to a vote. (It passed with 14 votes in favors, and only the U.S. abstaining.)

Third, the plea appears to corroborate reports that Flynn was working toward a deal in which he would plead guilty in exchange for cooperating with the government. That’s also bad news for the Trump administration, because it indicates that Flynn knows something of value to the special counsel’s investigation. Mueller’s choice of lieutenants has suggested he is seeking to flip key witnesses in order to learn essential information, but so far that had only yielded George Papadopoulos, a previously little-known campaign aide. Flynn is a far larger catch. In fact, one might expect the national-security adviser to be near the top of the food chain, since he reports directly to the president. If Flynn is small fry, how many bigger fish are there, and who?

Fourth, it’s notable that the charge against Flynn is lying to the FBI. That’s because it has been more or less known since February that he did so. On February 16, three days after Flynn’s forced resignation, The Washington Post  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/flynn-in-fbi-interview-denied-discussing-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador/2017/02/16/e3e1e16a-f3d5-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.d7cdd87cbeb5" rel="nofollow - reported  both that Flynn had denied speaking with Kislyak about the sanctions in a conversation with FBI agents, and that intelligence intercepts indicated he was lying. The FBI interview took place on January 24; on January 26, then-Acting Attorney General Sally Yates spoke to White House Counsel Don McGahn, and in testimony in May she implied that she had informed McGahn that Flynn lied to FBI agents. The investigation into Flynn’s alleged lying to FBI agents long-predates Mueller’s appointment as special counsel in May.


Flynn could also be in trouble for things he did before he was appointed national-security adviser. After leaving the military, Flynn was paid for trips overseas, including one to Russia for a fete celebrating RT, the Kremlin-backed news and propaganda outlet; at dinner, Flynn was seated with President Vladimir Putin. As former top brass, Flynn should have sought Pentagon permission before taking those trips; he also should have disclosed them when applying to renew his security clearance in 2016. Members of Congress  https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/the-surprising-scope-of-michael-flynns-dubious-business-deals/539733/" rel="nofollow - allege  that Flynn did neither.

These are only the incidents which have been publicly reported. Mueller may or may not know of other possible misdeeds.

The obvious question any time someone is caught lying to the FBI is, How could they have been so stupid? This is especially true in the case of Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. As a decorated and accomplished intelligence officer, he should have known that conversations with the Russian ambassador might be surveilled, producing irrefutable evidence that he was lying. His decision to lie about such a black-and-white matter raises questions about whether he might have hoped to cover something up.

The plea once again raises questions about the president’s judgment, both in hiring Flynn and afterwards. Flynn’s firing from the DIA by President Obama for mismanagement ought to have been a red flag. The campaign did not effectively vet Flynn, failing to turn up the missing security-clearance disclosures. The New York Times  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-adviser.html?&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0" rel="nofollow - reports  that Flynn told the Trump transition team in January that he was under investigation for undisclosed lobbying on behalf of Turkey. Top White House officials deny they were informed.

Nor did Trump act swiftly to deal with Flynn’s duplicity. Even after McGahn was apparently informed that Flynn had lied to the FBI, Trump did not force Flynn out until February 13—and then only after The Washington Post reported that Flynn had lied about his conversations with Kislyak. At the time, the White House said Flynn was forced out for lying to Mike Pence, and it also defended his character, even as it knew he’d lied to the FBI.

Once Flynn had been fired, the president pressured then-FBI Director James Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn, one of several incidents in which the president attempted to interfere in FBI probes. On May 9, Trump fired Comey, a decision he attributed to the Russia probe. Here, too, Trump’s aggressive steps to defend Flynn seem to defy simple explanation. Flynn’s plea could tie into a reported investigation into whether Trump obstructed justice by firing Comey.

Given the brevity of the public documents, there’s little else to be gleaned at this point. Mueller’s investigation has been highly disciplined about leaks, with little information reaching the public. There’s no way to predict how soon information obtained from Flynn might reach the public or help to produce fresh charges. But the simple fact of Mueller nabbing Flynn now is enough to  http://www.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/936393574433939456" rel="nofollow - take a little merriment out of the president’s Christmas.

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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: December 06 2017 at 2:55pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/6/1721815/-The-Trump-Russia-Story-Is-Coming-Together-Here-s-How-to-Make-Sense-of-It" rel="nofollow - The Harper: Up to and including the firing of James Comey, Trump did everything he could to try to shut down, slow down or stop the investigation. First, he tried to shut down the investigation of Mike Flynn. Then it turned out that Mike Flynn is probably just a piece of a much larger problem, which is Russia. Trump admitted to the Russian ambassador and to the Russian foreign minister shortly after he fired Comey that now he’s got some relief from the Russia problem — in other words, Comey’s gone! But what’s happened since then is the continuing effort to interfere with the investigation, even in the form of tweets — all of which sure look a lot to me like witness intimidation for some of the key players in the saga.

And then there’s a third component, which is in a way the most insidious — the willingness of the congressional GOP to be complicit in all of this. We’re talking now about a prescription for disaster for democracy. It’s all part of the same story. If you think about it, every single person who has said something about there being no connection between Trump and Russia during the campaign has been caught in a lie about it. Even with this fellow George Papadopoulos, the talking point immediately became, “Well, he didn’t get in trouble for anything that he did, he got in trouble for lying to federal investigators.” Sure, and what was he lying to federal investigators about? About whether or not there were any contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia. And that’s the part that everybody glosses over in terms of the talking points on the Republican side.


let me repeat that one part


" If you think about it, every single person who has said something about there being no connection between Trump and Russia during the campaign has been caught in a lie about it."


EVERY SINGLE PERSON


as I have asked before

if your not doing anything wrong

they why the &*^%$*   are you constantly LYING ???



and then there is this

Moyers: Harding, who’s a very experienced reporter, quotes the British ex-spy, Christopher Steele, who worked in Russia for years and compiled that notorious dossier on Trump that mysteriously appeared last year. He quotes Steele saying that “Russian intelligence has been secretly cultivating Trump for years.” As you and I discussed in August, Trump appears to have attracted the attention of Soviet intelligence as far back as 1987, on his first visit to Moscow — a visit arranged by the top level of the Soviet diplomatic service, with the assistance of the KGB.


what was that one part again?



He quotes Steele saying that “Russian intelligence has been secretly cultivating Trump for years.”


no wonder Trump is pressuring top Republicans to shut Mueller down




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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: December 07 2017 at 12:48am
Keeping up with my Paul Manafort bashing.....he's a traitor against the USA.   And, apparently, he's a blooming idiot! 

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/the-op-ed-paul-manafort-allegedly-tried-to-plant-is-comically-worshipful-of-manafort.html" rel="nofollow - https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/the-op-ed-paul-manafort-allegedly-tried-to-plant-is-comically-worshipful-of-manafort.html

Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manfort allegedly violated orders from the judge who is presiding over his case by attempting to sneak a ghostwritten op-ed in praise of Paul Manafort into the press, according to court filings that special counsel Robert Mueller’s team issued on Monday. Mueller’s office changed its position on the loosening of bail terms for Manafort based on the alleged attempted shenanigans.

On Wednesday, Talking Points Memo  http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/manafort-op-ed-kilimnik" rel="nofollow - published  the op-ed in question, which it received from professed author Oleg Voloshyn. It is a hoot!

TPM reported that the op-ed could be described as a “love letter to Manafort.” That description, however, does a disservice to love letters, which generally are a little more subtle.



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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: December 19 2017 at 7:59am

Americans Are Allowing Trump To Turn U.S. Into Russia, Garry Kasparov Warns


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kasparov-warningto-americans-ontrump_us_5a38a2d5e4b0fc99878e473a?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Russian chess champion and political activist https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/Garry-Kasparov" rel="nofollow - Garry Kasparov has a chilling warning for Americans: While you’re distracted by the bully in the White House, democratic institutions are being ripped apart.

Kasparov said he sees some of the same tactics he witnessed in Russia being used in the U.S., like a leader “lying constantly while attacking targets for lying” and the “escalation of rhetoric to dictatorial extremes.”




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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: December 20 2017 at 3:20pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/20/1726340/-White-House-Counsel-McGahn-Knew-Flynn-was-Crooked-in-January-and-Warned-Trump" rel="nofollow - White House Counsel McGahn Knew Flynn was Crooked in January, and Warned Trump

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/20/1726340/-White-House-Counsel-McGahn-Knew-Flynn-was-Crooked-in-January-and-Warned-Trump

and
AND

even the outgoing Obama administration WARNED Trump about FlynnLOL

best judgment ever LOL


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: December 22 2017 at 6:53am

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/sarah-kendzior-trump-may-be-threatening" rel="nofollow - Sarah Kendzior: Trump Likely To Be Threatening, Blackmailing Republicans


https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/sarah-kendzior-trump-may-be-threatening





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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 02 2018 at 4:57pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/2/1729202/-Unbelievable-New-Russian-Link-to-Trump-Direct-Money-to-Russian-Government" rel="nofollow - Unbelievable: New Russian Link to Trump, Direct Money From Russian Government!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/2/1729202/-Unbelievable-New-Russian-Link-to-Trump-Direct-Money-to-Russian-Government


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 02 2018 at 7:53pm
oh is getting good
REAL good

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/2/1729314/-NYT-Founders-of-Fusion-GPS-Say-GOP-is-Hiding-Their-Trump-Russia-Testimony" rel="nofollow - NYT: Founders of Fusion GPS Say GOP is Hiding Their


no wonder Republicans are so DESPERATE to shut down the Mueller investigation

"



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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 11:35am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/3/1729490/-Fusion-GPS-founders-call-on-Congress-to-release-their-testimony-public-deserves-the-shocking-truth" rel="nofollow - Fusion GPS founders call on Congress to release their testimony, public deserves the shocking truth

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/3/1729490/-Fusion-GPS-founders-call-on-Congress-to-release-their-testimony-public-deserves-the-shocking-truth

In the op-ed, Simpson and Fritsch accuse Republicans of blocking the full release of their testimony, which they say contains jaw-dropping information the public deserves to know about Donald Trump, his finances and his campaign. They even told congressional investigators  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html" rel="nofollow - precisely where to find the evidence they need to prove Trump's crimes:

We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are  http://www.businessinsider.com/fusion-gps-subpoena-bank-devin-nunes-runs-trump-russia-probe-2017-12" rel="nofollow - the only bank records  the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.

We told Congress that from  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08/why-robert-mueller-has-trump-soho-in-his-sights" rel="nofollow - Manhattan  to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.

We explained how, from our past journalistic work in Europe, we were deeply familiar with the political operative Paul Manafort’s coziness with Moscow and his financial ties to Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.


the drip drip drip has now turned into a constant stream,

just waiting for the raging river with class 5 rapids next


Trump and fellow CORRUPT  Republicans are doing everything they can to stop this investigation,now we know why





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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 16 2018 at 8:12pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/16/1733451/-Bannon-reportedly-to-Tell-ALL-to-Mueller" rel="nofollow - Bannon reportedly to Tell ALL to Mueller

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/16/1733451/-Bannon-reportedly-to-Tell-ALL-to-Mueller

Trump already invoking Executive Privilege to shut Bannon down

cause this is what innocent people who have nothing to hide do LOL


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Posted By: arirish
Date Posted: January 16 2018 at 9:48pm
The underlying reason for executive privilege -- that a chief executive is entitled to candid advice from close aides without fear that such discussions would be revealed in a courtroom -- has been upheld in the courts.

But while validating the theory of executive privilege, those courts have sometimes refused to let a president exercise it. The most important test of the doctrine was the Supreme Court's decision in 1974 that both formally established executive privilege and ruled that Nixon could not hide criminal behavior behind it. The contents of Nixon's White House tapes ultimately ended his presidency.

http://https://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/030298clinton-rdp.html" rel="nofollow - https://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/030298clinton-rdp.html

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Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: January 17 2018 at 9:02am
Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:



Trump already invoking Executive Privilege to shut Bannon down

cause this is what innocent people who have nothing to hide do LOL

Won't work...Mueller operates under the same branch of government as Trump (executive).  I expect Bannon to really go after Kushner (Javanka)!  

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-am-0596a998-579a-41c2-8e24-dff8726742b9.html?source=sidebar" rel="nofollow - Axios said  executive privilege probably wouldn’t apply to the Mueller interview, because Mueller himself is working for the executive branch. 

Bannon “can say whatever the hell he wants to say to [Mueller] about whatever topic that he wants,” a source familiar with Bannon’s thinking  https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-am-0596a998-579a-41c2-8e24-dff8726742b9.html?source=sidebar" rel="nofollow - told Axios .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bannon-mueller-cooperate_us_5a5f37ace4b0ee2ff32c0056?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009" rel="nofollow - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bannon-mueller-cooperate_us_5a5f37ace4b0ee2ff32c0056?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009



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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 23 2018 at 5:14am

Former Trump Aide’s Fiancee Warns White House: ‘A Lot To Come’

Simona Mangiante is engaged to George Papadopoulos, and they’ve both cooperated with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/papadopoulos-fiancee-speaks_us_5a669c71e4b0e5630072d8a5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


oh

and remember that memo that is going to be "worse than Watergate" ?

you know the one the Repub's said would shut Mueller down?

now slime ball David Nunes is refusing to release it

LOL !!!




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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 25 2018 at 6:42pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/25/1736066/-NYT-Trump-tried-to-fire-Mueller-but-was-blocked-by-his-White-House-counsel" rel="nofollow - NYT: Trump tried to fire Mueller but was blocked by his White House counsel

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/25/1736066/-NYT-Trump-tried-to-fire-Mueller-but-was-blocked-by-his-White-House-counsel

yeah
'cause Trump is innocent LOL


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 7:58pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/31/1737761/-BREAKING-Devin-Nunes-Altered-His-Memo-After-The-Committee-Approved-It-s-Release" rel="nofollow - BREAKING: Devin Nunes Altered His Memo, After The Committee Approved It’s Release

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/31/1737761/-BREAKING-Devin-Nunes-Altered-His-Memo-After-The-Committee-Approved-It-s-Release

LOL !!!

drain the swamp ???

hahaha

SUCKERS !!!


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 11:16pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/31/1737752/-NYT-Ex-Trump-Legal-Spokesman-to-Tell-Mueller-of-Flagrant-Obstruction-by-Trump-amp-Hope-Hicks" rel="nofollow - NYT: he better release it SOON LOL !!! LOL


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 7:23pm

Well, Well, Well: Nunes Admits the Partisan Origins of the Dossier *Had* Been Disclosed After All


https://www.redstate.com/patterico/2018/02/05/well-well-well-nunes-admits-the-partisan-origins-of-the-dossier-had-been-disclosed-after-all/

Devin Nunes Gets A Pretty Basic Fact Wrong In Defending His Memo

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-memo_us_5a788b57e4b01fe513a60603?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009



well golly gee whiz ain't this a surprise LOL


Nunes caught lying AGAIN


IF Trump is innocent

then WHY is he and EVERYONE associated with him LYING

again and again and AGAIN ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????



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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 7:53pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/5/1738889/-Newly-Obtained-Docs-Show-Trump-And-His-Mouthpiece-Sanders-Flat-Out-Lied-About-Why-Comey-Was-Fired" rel="nofollow - Newly Obtained Docs Show Trump And His Mouthpiece Sanders


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 6:14am

Nunes Forced to Admit: The FBI Didn’t Lie (so Where’s Their Apology?)

https://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2018/02/06/nunes-forced-admit-fbi-didnt-lie-wheres-apology/

The wailing ridiculousness of Trump’s lackeys, that this would be bigger than Watergate, people were going to prison, the world was about to stop spinning on its axis… none of that happened, nor will it.


this whole memo things REEKS of desperation on Trumps part

what a sad,pathetic attempt to evade the truth

he IS guilty





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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 3:19pm
and the lies and the obfuscation from the Trump administration CONTINUE
golly gee whiz
what a surprise !!!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741684/-Bannon-refuses-to-answer-anything-but-Trump-approved-questions-House-considering-contempt" rel="nofollow - Bannon refuses to answer anything but


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 4:36pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741784/-TrumpRussia-News-Rick-Gates-might-be-getting-a-plea-deal" rel="nofollow - TrumpRussia News: Rick Gates might be getting a plea deal.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741784/-TrumpRussia-News-Rick-Gates-might-be-getting-a-plea-deal

uh oh
ANOTHER plea deal
ALWAYS bad news for someone higher up in the food chainLOL


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 4:55pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741765/-Jared-Kushner-s-Finances-Are-In-Shambles-And-He-s-A-Threat-To-National-Security" rel="nofollow - Jared Kushner's Finances Are In Shambles And He's A Threat To National Security
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/15/1741765/-Jared-Kushner-s-Finances-Are-In-Shambles-And-He-s-A-Threat-To-National-Security

as they say "FOLLOW THE MONEY"


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 16 2018 at 10:15am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/16/1741984/-DOJ-indicts-thirteen-Russian-nationals-and-three-Russian-companies-for-interfering-in-2016-election" rel="nofollow - Mueller indicts 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies for interfering in 2016 election

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/16/1741984/-DOJ-indicts-thirteen-Russian-nationals-and-three-Russian-companies-for-interfering-in-2016-election

and yet Trump continues to insist the Russians are not involved ?????????


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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 16 2018 at 12:10pm

Thirteen Russians criminally charged for interfering in US election, Mueller announces

  • Indictment does not say whether anyone else in Trump’s team had knowingly colluded with Russian operatives
  • Charges state that as far back as 2014, the defendants conspired together to defraud the US through interference
  • https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house" rel="nofollow - Russian ‘troll farm’ at the heart of the meddling allegations

 in New York and  in Moscow

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Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election.
 Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election. Photograph: Andrew Harnik/AP

Thirteen Russians have been criminally charged for interfering in the 2016 US election to help Donald Trump, the office of  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/robert-mueller" rel="nofollow - Robert Mueller , the special counsel, announced on Friday.

Mueller’s office said 13 Russians and three Russian entities, including the notorious  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/17/russian-troll-factory-activists-protests-us-election" rel="nofollow - state-backed  “troll farm” the Internet Research Agency, had been  https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download" rel="nofollow - indicted by a federal grand jury in Washington DC .

A 37-page indictment alleged that the Russians’ operations “included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton,” his Democratic opponent.

Mueller alleged that Russian operatives “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign”, but the indictment did not address the question of whether anyone else in Trump’s team had knowingly colluded.

Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, said at a press conference in Washington: “There is no allegation in this indictment that any American had any knowledge.” Rosenstein added that the charges did not mean the Russian activity had an effect on the outcome of the election.

The Russians allegedly posed as Americans to operate bogus social media accounts, buy advertisements and stage political rallies. They stole the identities of real people in the US to post online and built computer systems in the US to hide the Russian origin of their activity, according prosecutors.

“This indictment serves as a reminder that people are not always who they appear to be on the internet,” said Rosenstein. He alleged that the Russians had “worked to promote discord in the United States and undermine public confidence in democracy,” adding: “We must not allow them to succeed.”

The charges state that from as far back as 2014, the defendants conspired together to defraud the US by “impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of government” through interference with the American political and electoral processes.

One defendant, Yevgeniy Prigozhin, is accused of using companies he controlled – including Concord Management and Consulting, and Concord Catering – to finance the operations against the US. The operation at one stage had a monthly budget of $1.25m, according to Mueller, which paid for operatives’ salaries and bonuses.

Events were organised by Russians posing as Trump supporters and  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/30/blacktivist-facebook-account-russia-us-election" rel="nofollow - as groups opposed to Trump such as Black Lives Matter , according to prosecutors. One advertisement shortly before the election promoted the Green party candidate Jill Stein, who is blamed by some Clinton backers for splitting the anti-Trump vote.

In August 2016, Russian operatives communicated with Trump campaign staff in Florida through their “@donaldtrump.com” email addresses to coordinate a series of pro-Trump rallies in the state, according to Mueller, and then bought advertisements on social media to promote the events.

At one rally in West Palm Beach, a Russian operative is even alleged to have paid Americans to build a cage on a flatbed truck and to have an actor posing as Clinton in a prison uniform stand inside.

One defendant, Irina Kaverzina, is accused of admitting her involvement in the operation and a subsequent coverup in an email to a relative in September last year, after Mueller’s inquiry had begun. “We had a slight crisis here at work: the FBI busted our activity,” Kaverzina allegedly wrote, “so I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with the colleagues.”

The Russians are also accused of working to suppress turnout among ethnic minority voters. They allegedly created an Instagram account posing as “Woke Blacks” and railed against the notion that African Americans should choose Clinton as “the lesser of two devils” against Trump.

In early November 2016, according to the indictment, the Russian operatives used bogus “United Muslims of America” social media accounts to claim that “American Muslims [are] boycotting elections today.”

Following Trump’s victory, the Russian operation promoted allegations of voter fraud by the Democratic party, according to Mueller’s team. Around that time, Trump repeatedly claimed without evidence that he would have won the popular vote if not for large-scale voter fraud.

The individuals charged are Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov, Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik, Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova, Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva, Sergey Pavlovich Polozov, Maria Anatolyevna Bovda, Robert Sergeyevich Bovda, Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly, Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev, Gleb Igorevitch Vasilchenko, Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin and Vladimir Venkov.

All were charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States. Three defendants were charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants were charged with aggravated identity theft.

Separately, Mueller’s office announced that Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, California, had  https://www.justice.gov/sco" rel="nofollow - pleaded guilty to identity fraud . Pinedo, 28, admitted to running a website that offered stolen identities to help customers get around the security measures of major online payment sites. It was not made clear whether his service had been used by the Russian operatives.

Rosenstein said no contact had been made with Russian authorities regarding the charges so far, but that US officials intended to seek extradition of the defendants.

US intelligence agencies previously concluded that Russians mounted an attack on the US election system aimed at electing  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump" rel="nofollow - Donald Trump  to the presidency.

Mueller is conducting a criminal inquiry into interference by Russians and possible collusion by Trump’s campaign. Two Trump campaign advisers have pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Two others have been charged with federal crimes.

US investigators have long signalled their belief that Prigozhin, a 56-year-old billionaire businessman, is behind Russia’s internet troll factories.

Nicknamed the “Kremlin’s chef”, Prigozhin once ran Putin’s favourite restaurant in St Petersburg, after which he was awarded multi-billion pound state catering contracts.

He provided catering for Dmitry Medvedev’s presidential inauguration in 2008, and also has lucrative contracts to feed Russia’s army and Moscow’s schoolchildren.

Prigozhin, who has also been linked to the Wagner Group, a shadowy Kremlin-linked private military contractor believed to be operating in Syria,  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/20/us-russia-sanctions-ukraine-president-visit" rel="nofollow - was included on a US sanctions list in July .

Speaking to the RIA Novosti state news agency on Friday, Prigozhin said: “The Americans are really impressionable people, they see what they want to see. I have great respect for them. If they want to see the devil – let them see him.”

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova called the allegations “absurd”.

“13 people carried out interference in the US elections? 13 people against special services with a budgets of billions?” she wrote in a Facebook post.

Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Russian media he had not yet had a chance to study the indictments.




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12 Monkeys...............
1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: February 17 2018 at 1:53am
So far this is not blaming Trump, but....

"Thirteen Russians have been charged with interfering in the US 2016 election, in a major development in the FBI investigation.

Three of those named have also been accused of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and five have been accused of aggravated identity theft." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43092085" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43092085


It seems they had a a budget of over $1 million/month to work on social media and other platforms.



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 17 2018 at 4:33am
It's easier to fool people,than to get them to accept that they have been fooled.....

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12 Monkeys...............
1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: February 17 2018 at 8:27am
Honestly, I think this is designed to buy time and silence the calls to fire Mueller. His team is top heavy with people who's field of expertise is in money laundering. This is not what they're concentrating on, but it is significant in it's implications concerning the election.



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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 17 2018 at 9:06am
It looks to me as if the question of Russian electoral influence is clearly answered. - YES!  There sure was!

However, much as I dislike and mistrust Trump, there is no proof (yet) of his collusion,- at least no definitive proof.  Although I personally doubt his innocence, it is only fair to give him the benefit of said doubt; at least unless/until real concrete proof emerges.  I know he looks as dirty as sin, but that is appearance - not proof.


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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 17 2018 at 2:44pm
if Chump didnt Know,

why would the Ruskis want him as president ?

what would they gain by having a buffoon runing the USA............ 


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12 Monkeys...............
1995 ‧ Science fiction film/Thriller ‧ 2h 11m a must for AFT


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 10:48am
Too many secret meetings with Russian officials, and too many shady dealings involving Russian mob money in the past to give Trump a pass yet.



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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 10:50am


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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: DeepThinker
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 1:07pm
So this is what we know...  Russian companies spent around a million dollars a month to buy political influence.   Even so there is no distinct pro trump quality to it.... they just wanted to create chaos.  Hillary spent a billion dollars so this Russian program was  just chump change.    The DNC leaks where probably an inside job.   There was no collusion according to Muller his report states that no Americans knowingly helped the Russians.   Nobody alleges that the vote count was altered or manipulated in any way. 

The whole purpose of this conspiracy was not to get Trump elected, it is a simple continuation of a long term soviet goal of getting Americans not to trust their political system.   With all the hysteria from the media and dems I think this plan  has been far more successful than they could have hoped for.

As a matter of fact I expect this whole thing to go away soon... way to many democrats have dirty hands in this...    nobody wants a full investigation.


Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 1:49pm
That sounds a lot like what Fox News knows. There's much more to this story than a few bullet points.



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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 2:01pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/17/1742323/-Trump-Will-Not-Act-Against-Russia-Because-He-Is-Very-Likely-Being-Blackmailed-By-Russia" rel="nofollow - Trump Will Not Act Against Russia Because He Is Very Likely Being Blackmailed By Russia.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/17/1742323/-Trump-Will-Not-Act-Against-Russia-Because-He-Is-Very-Likely-Being-Blackmailed-By-Russia

"All in all, the odds are disconcertingly high that Russia, or somebody, has blackmail leverage over the president of the United States."

Trump and all those around him have done nothing but LIE and obfuscate on this issue since day one
IF your not guilty of something THEN why all the LIES ???

Trump REPEATEDLY said he had nothing to do with the Russians
even his own sons have contradicted him on this

we DO KNOW that the Russians did indeed meddle in the election
this is an established FACT at this point
Trump has said from day one that NO this is not the case
and now he denies saying this ???

Trump refused to invoke further sanctions against Russia
WHY ???

it certainly appears someone has something on him

Mr. Trump
IF your not guilty
then STOP LYING

and thank you JD
"That sounds a lot more like what Fox News knows. There's much more to this story than a few bullet points."

talking points is exactly right
and incorrect ones at that LOL


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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 2:06pm

Trump: I Never Said Russia Did Not Meddle in Our Election. Reality: Your Pants Are on Fire

https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2018/02/18/trump-never-said-russia-not-meddle-election-reality-pants-fire/


"

The internet, while often used as a tool to make people think they’re experts in fields they are not, does provide a functional way for people to check on whether somebody else is lying or not.

And President Trump is lying."


gee

ya think LOL



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: DeepThinker
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 2:08pm
I honestly want to know, for those saying that Trump colluded what did trump get from it?    Like I said that million dollars a month they spent was like pissing in the ocean, the DNC leaks by all accounts really does seem be an inside job, maybe the Russians were responsible for the Podesta emails I don't know.  Even so the emails didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.... I don't think they swayed many people.

How did Trump benefit from any of this?

Edit: I will concede that perhaps Trump could have been duped but I don't see any motivation for him to be willingly involved.


Posted By: DeepThinker
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 2:14pm
Let me put it much simpler.... Trumps own resources VASTLY exceeds those given to these meddling efforts.  If he thought any thing they where doing was useful.... he could have easily paid for it himself and had no toxic associations.   He didn't need the Russians.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 3:26pm
Trump likes to win.  He probably wanted to win the presidential race even more than he wanted to be President. 

His money, influence and, most importantly, his media-savvy made him almost incapable of losing.  But almost is not certainty and he would have wanted certainty.

That does not mean he colluded, but it does give him motive.


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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 5:53pm
whats the lesson here .......

the internet is not safe,

elections should be  a cross in a box on a balot paper, forget machines,

and FOES will try and destroy democracy,

 by ANY MEANS............

maybe we woke up to the danger now ,

Trump is just the stooge in all of this its way over his head..............

and it has been going on long before Chump and his sideshow appeared............


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12 Monkeys...............
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Posted By: DeepThinker
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 10:46pm
Technophobe so are you arguing that 1 million dollars a month offered Trump "certainty"?  LOL like I said the Russian effort was like pissing in the ocean.


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 2:03am
No, DeepThinker, not certainty, but a small step closer to it.


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Absence of proof is not proof of absence.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 5:35am

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/02/source-rick-gates-plead-guilty-and-agrees" rel="nofollow - SOURCE: Rick Gates To Plead Guilty And Agrees To Testify Against Manafort


https://crooksandliars.com/2018/02/source-rick-gates-plead-guilty-and-agrees


and do I really need to explain the fallacy of this argument ???

"Like I said that million dollars a month they spent was like pissing in the ocean,"




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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 10:09am
Everybody was attacked in a Trump tweet storm this weekend...except Russia. Won't impose sections despite both houses overwhelmingly calling for them, and won't do anything but praise Putin. Nothing to see, right?

What did Trump gain? The power he's craved for years, and the ability to restructure the tax code to benefit himself and his family for starters.



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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 7:24pm
yup
Trump takes a swing at everything and anybody

EXCEPT 

Russia

something stinks to high heaven


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 20 2018 at 1:44pm
well that didn't take long LOL

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743225/-Alex-Van-Der-Zwaan-Pleads-Guilty-to-Making-False-Statements-to-the-FBI" rel="nofollow - Alex Van Der Zwaan Pleads Guilty to Making False Statements to the FBI
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743225/-Alex-Van-Der-Zwaan-Pleads-Guilty-to-Making-False-Statements-to-the-FBI

now the only question is
is this guy gonna roll over and start talking ?


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 20 2018 at 9:10pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743314/-Paul-Manafort-May-Be-A-Bigger-Gangster-Than-You-Thought" rel="nofollow - Paul Manafort May Be A Bigger Gangster Than You Thought
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743314/-Paul-Manafort-May-Be-A-Bigger-Gangster-Than-You-Thought

cause ya know
Trump only surrounds himself with the "best people"  LOL


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 2:38pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/22/1743962/-Robert-Mueller-issues-MORE-new-charges-against-Manafort-and-Gates" rel="nofollow - Robert Mueller issues MORE new charges against Manafort and Gates

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/22/1743962/-Robert-Mueller-issues-MORE-new-charges-against-Manafort-and-Gates

ruh roh Scooby LOL


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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 3:38am
Here are http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43164321" rel="nofollow - some details from the BBC

Quote Robert Mueller indicted Mr Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and business associate Rick Gates on multiple counts of tax and bank fraud.

Both were charged in October with conspiracy to launder money.

But there are no criminal allegations of collusion with Russia, the justice department investigation's main thrust.

.....

Thursday's 32-count indictment alleges that Mr Manafort and Mr Gates conspired to hide more than $30m (£22m) in Mr Manafort's personal income from tax officials.

It also claims that Mr Gates concealed more than $3m of his own income.

The money "flowed through" a $75m offshore account controlled by them, according to the indictment filed by a federal grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia.



The video in the article also talks of spending more the $1 million on menswear WackoGeek




Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 7:30am

Shepard Smith: People Go To Prison For What Jared Kushner Did

https://www.yahoo.com/news/shepard-smith-people-prison-jared-054241423.html



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 11:10am
LOL !!! LOL

How Manafort’s inability to convert a PDF file to Word helped prosecutors

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/how-manaforts-inability-to-convert-a-word-doc-to-pdf-helped-prosecutors/


Trump-"I'm only going to hire the BEST people"  LOL


Manafort and Gates-making reservations at "Club FED" as we speak LOL




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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 11:18am

Former Trump aide tells loved ones of plans to plead guilty, cooperate with special counsel

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-trump-aide-richard-gates-poised-plead-guilty-142241955--abc-news-topstories.html


yeah

Muellers investigation is just a "witch hunt" ???

WELL.....


apparently  he has found hisself some of dem witches  thingys LOL


can't wait to see if they turn states evidence and start talking



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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov


Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 2:15pm
Paul Manaforts very very VERY bad month
and it ain't even over yet LOL

Former Trump Campaign Chair Paul Manafort Indicted Yet Again

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-indicted_us_5a90878be4b01e9e56bbc0ef


getting involved with the Donald was a really really REALLY bad mistake

Manafort may never have been discovered for the criminal that he obviously is


does he have anything on Trump ?

and is he going to talk to save himself some SERIOUS jail time ???


stay tunedBig smile





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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov



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