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Topic: Race To The BOTTOMPosted By: Satori
Subject: Race To The BOTTOM
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 5:35am
How Betsy DeVos Became The Most Hated Cabinet Secretary
“My
family is the biggest contributor of soft money to the Republican
National Committee,” she wrote in Roll Call in 1997. “I have decided to
stop taking offense at the suggestion that we are buying influence. Now I
simply concede the point. They are right. We do expect something in
return. We expect to foster a conservative governing philosophy
consisting of limited government and respect for traditional American
virtues. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/betsy-devos-trumps-big-donor-education-secretary" rel="nofollow - - We expect a return on our investment.”
DeVos’ driving cause has been “school choice.” In Michigan, she led the push to https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/12/08/a-sobering-look-at-what-betsy-devos-did-to-education-in-michigan-and-what-she-might-do-as-secretary-of-education/?utm_term=.286547305403" rel="nofollow - - use public dollars to pay for private school tuition
through vouchers and other means. That experiment has been a success
for banks and hedge funds, and a resounding failure for many students. A
2016 report by the Education Trust-Midwest, a nonprofit, concluded that
under the model shaped by DeVos, “Michigan’s K-12 system is among the
weakest in the country and getting worse. In little more than a decade,
Michigan has gone from being a fairly average state in elementary
reading and math achievement to the bottom 10 states. It’s a devastating
fall.”
the CORRUPT DeVos is gonna do for the the whole United States like her family has done for Michigan
do you see what you have done AMuRIkA ???
do you fully understand how Trump is DESTROYING this country ???
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Replies: Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 6:38am
Here in Scotland, we used to be the supplier of the vast majority of engineers the world over. (That is the reason "Scottie" on the starship Enterprise was Scots - a nod to our past.) Down south, in England, Oxford and Cambridge were the most respected universities in the world. As a child I remember when those top universities took on America's top colleges in "College Boole" and wiped the floor with them.
Not any more! Half of the people in Scotland are bordering on illiterate. Oxford and Cambridge do not even make the top ten of world universities (the top three are Harvard, Yale and MIT). Wonder why?
I can answer in one word: "academies!" - State funded privately controlled (by business) schools. Now our standard of education has fallen so low, universities have had to lower their entrance criteria. My daughter just did the modern equivalent of an 'A-level' exam (University entrance). The level of knowledge required was equivalent to the 'secondary certificate of education' (CSE) a few decades ago; CSEs were three tiers below! (A or RSA-III, OA or RSA-II, O or RSA-I and CSE in descending order)
Don't make our mistake America!!! Don't ruin your schools!!! Don't join us at the bottom!!!
It is not so great here!
------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving.
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 7:02am
Codicil to the above:
We used to export our doctors, nurses, specialists and engineers. Now we import them. We can't even train enough plumbers and electricians for our domestic needs; never mind any academically qualified people! If we turned around and revamped our education system now - root and branch - it would still take us about 30 years to even start to recover a few of our previous standards. We still have a tiny number of Dons and Professors left with some brains and knowledge to share. But overall, we would have to import the teachers, of the teachers, of the teachers. You can't do that deep a restructuring overnight.
It takes one stroke of a legislative pen to destroy your country's future; a lifetime, or more, to recover - if you ever do.
------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving.
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 8:01pm
Pence breaks tie to nix Obama-era consumer arbitration rule
anything and everything that helps the average person is being reversed by Trump
and don't get me started on that piece of crap Pence
snake in a suit
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 10:03pm
I always think of chump as a stalking horse for pence....
------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖
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Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: October 25 2017 at 11:13am
http://crooksandliars.com/2017/10/mike-pence-casts-tiebreaking-vote-barring" rel="nofollow - Mike Pence Casts Tiebreaking Vote Barring Consumers From Suing Banks In Class Actions
In the middle of the night, Vice President and Kochhead Mike Pence voted
to rescind a CFPB regulation that protected consumers. In typical
Orwellian fashion, he tweeted this just after breaking the tie in the
Senate:
yeah cause Trump is for the little guy ?
SUCKERS
and "in the middle of the night" ???
says it all doesn't it ???
SUCKERS
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: October 25 2017 at 12:14pm
gotta give Trump some credit he has brought the price of steel down !!!
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/25/1709775/-Trump-made-big-promises-on-American-made-steel-Instead-foreign-steel-is-flooding-in" rel="nofollow - Trump made big promises on
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 25 2017 at 3:05pm
big round of Applause for Chump
10 out of 10 for doing ,
NOTHING........................,
i here he has an awesome grip,that of couse makes a GREAT President,or does it make him a tool and a LAUGHING stock around the world ......
the later i fear
------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖
Marcus Aurelius
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: October 25 2017 at 3:55pm
the conservative agenda
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/25/1709785/-Conservative-attacks-public-libraries-and-gets-demolished-admitting-he-knows-nothing" rel="nofollow - Conservative attacks public libraries and gets demolished, admitting he knows nothing
Along with public education, public libraries in America are arguably
the single most important democratic institution in the world. Whether
you are rich or poor, whether you have a home or not, the public library
offers not simply free services, but free access to information.
Information that can help you get a job, help you find a home, help you
find the support you need. Libraries can offer an any person, old or
young, a chance to educate themselves. Over the past few years, many
have tried to use the internet as an excuse for cutting back on the need
for libraries. Information is available “for free” on the internet. But
our country’s internet and internet access is not free and people such
as Republican FCC chair Ajit Pai want to make sure the have nots have
even less access to it.
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: October 26 2017 at 7:00am
Sieg Heil Herr Trump Sieg Heil !!!
http://crooksandliars.com/2017/10/trump-threatens-1st-amend-rights-free" rel="nofollow - Trump Threatens Rights Of The Free Press By Calling CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, And MSNBC All 'Fake News'
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 26 2017 at 3:12pm
Donald Trump compared to Joseph McCarthy as Republican Party spat deepens
Republican Senator Jeff Flake has compared Donald Trump's behaviour to that of 1950s demagogue Joseph McCarthy, saying "you can't continue to just remain silent" about the US leader's politics.
Key points:
Senator Flake said he hopes the "tipping point" on Mr Trump's behaviour is coming
Mr Trump has been exchanging insults with Senator Flake and Senator Bob Corker
Mr Trump said yesterday's meeting with other Republican senators was a "love fest"
The Arizona senator made the rounds of morning television news shows to talk about his decision not to run for re-election in 2018 and http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-25/donald-trump-trades-insults-with-republican-senator-bob-corker/9082388" rel="nofollow - his impassioned speech on the Senate floor yesterday , in which he said he could no longer be "complicit" with the Republican President.
"There is a tipping point ... I hope we're reaching that tipping point," Senator Flake told NBC's Today program.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-25/donald-trump-bob-corker-jeff-flake-republican-civil-war/9082890" rel="nofollow - Republican civil war
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-25/donald-trump-bob-corker-jeff-flake-republican-civil-war/9082890" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-25/donald-trump-bob-corker-jeff-flake-republican-civil-war/9082890" rel="nofollow - A day that was supposed to be about Donald Trump's first major legislative victory becomes a Republican civil war, writes Conor Duffy.
Senator Flake cited the era of McCarthy, the Republican Wisconsin senator whose smear tactics alleging Communist infiltration ultimately led to his censure.
In an opinion column in The Washington Post, Senator Flake quoted Joseph Welch, an Army lawyer, who stood up to McCarthy in a June 1954 hearing and demanded: "Have you no sense of decency, Sir?".
"The moral power of Welch's words ended McCarthy's rampage on American values, and effectively his career as well," he wrote.
"We face just such a time now. We have again forgotten who we are supposed to be."
Senator Flake also said he thinks more of his Republican colleagues will speak out, he told the American ABC's Good Morning America program.
"It's up to us to stand up and say, 'this is not acceptable'," he said.
In an interview with MSNBC, Senator Flake said: "We are excusing undignified and outrageous and reckless speech and behaviour as 'telling it like it is' ... That's not right."
Mr Trump immediately fired back at Senator Flake and fellow retiring Senate Republican Bob Corker on Twitter, saying the two weren't running for re-election because "they had zero chance of being elected".
https://twitter.com/download" rel="nofollow -
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow">Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
The reason Flake and Corker dropped out of the Senate race is very simple, they had zero chance of being elected. Now act so hurt & wounded!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/923149037523566592" rel="nofollow - 7:27 PM - Oct 25, 2017
Mr Corker had previously http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-25/donald-trump-trades-insults-with-republican-senator-bob-corker/9082388" rel="nofollow - labelled Mr Trump "untruthful" and accused him of debasing the nation.
Mr Trump also contended that Senators Flake and Corker stand alone, boasting in several tweets that he had gotten standing ovations at a Senate Republicans' luncheon on Tuesday at the Capitol.
Asked why others in his party haven't yet done so, Senator Flake said "fatigue" was to blame.
He stopped short of saying Mr Trump should be declared unfit for office or impeached.
"The voters made their choice," Senator Flake said. "He was elected fair and square."
Congressional Republicans showed scant signs of turning on Mr Trump, rallying instead behind their party's tax-cutting plans.
"I just think that right now our members are pretty well convinced that we need to put some points on the board, get some wins," said Senator John Thune of South Dakota, a senior Republican leader.
"So I think the cohesion in the conference right now is pretty strong, particularly on the issue of tax reform."
While Senators Flake and Corker's comments p http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-25/donald-trump-still-winning-the-battle-for-the-republican-party/9083712" rel="nofollow - roduced a day of high drama and underscored Republican Party divisions , there was no evidence that they had caused a broad shift that could derail the party's legislative agenda.
https://twitter.com/download" rel="nofollow -
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow">Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
The meeting with Republican Senators yesterday, outside of Flake and Corker, was a love fest with standing ovations and great ideas for USA!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/923149793974775810" rel="nofollow - 7:30 PM - Oct 25, 2017
"We're all professionals here," said Senator David Perdue.
"These two guys can say and do what they want to do. But right now, we've got a bigger issue, and the bigger issue is to get this tax bill done."
Asked whether the senators' discontent could make it harder for Republicans to push their tax cuts through Congress, Senator Thune said: "Everybody gets to vote the way they want to vote, but both of them are very conscientious and principled and want to do the right thing."
Even so, Senator Flake was making no promises about backing the still evolving tax package, which could make federal deficits far worse.
"I don't expect to be voting differently than I would before," he said.
"Certainly on this tax bill, for example, I know that a lot of us are very concerned about the debt and deficit and want to make sure this is actually tax reform and not just a tax cut."
Senator Lindsey Graham, a critic of Mr Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign who's been working with him on health care and other issues, said his focus was on legislative accomplishments.
"I'll stand up when I need to, but I'm trying to get taxes cut, Obamacare repealed and win a war we can't afford to lose," he said.
Senator Susan Collins said politicians must "distinguish between the President's policy agenda and his approach to governing."
She is a moderate who http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/republican-senators-put-healthcare-bill-on-hold/8719796" rel="nofollow - helped block the party's drive to annul the Obama-era health care law .
"There have been many of us for a long time who have had concerns about his approach to governing," Senator Collins said.
"But I accept the fact that he is President now. We need to learn to work better together and respect the roles that each of us have to play."
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: February 28 2018 at 9:39am
think that there is any real kind of safety net in AMuRIka ???