TAMIFLU
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Printed Date: April 19 2024 at 2:31am
Topic: TAMIFLU
Posted By: Guests
Subject: TAMIFLU
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 5:22pm
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Important information about Tamiflu. Recommendation about how to obtain it Recommendations about how to take it. |
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Posted By: willow41
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 3:30pm
| go to the Tamiflu webisite. the dosage recommendations for adults and children are listed. I printed them off to keep on hand. |
Posted By: Hope
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 8:32pm
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Willow41, I read somewhere (not on the Tamiflu website) that for the Bird Flu, not the regular flu, you needed to take Tamiflu for ten days, not five as listed. I wish I could recall and attach the link. Maybe someone else has it? ------------- Hope |
Posted By: willow41
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 5:03pm
| yes, I have also read throught the news that they are recommending you double the dosage of tamilflu. but, that was in the beginning of Feb. I don't know where the health officials stand on that now. |
Posted By: virusil
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 7:09pm
 tamiflu ,dont work,if it works can you please explain to me why 36 000deaths occur in the us per year............. ------------- ignorance. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 10:40pm
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Maybe most of those 36,000 didn't have Tamiflu. Maybe they had other health problems so it didn't help. Maybe............... |
Posted By: virusil
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 11:51am
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this rumsfield must be in jail with the german compagny,and some of the fda as welll........... dont give me a maybe figures talks.tamiflu dont work. ------------- ignorance. |
Posted By: striper
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 12:40pm
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People die of flu in this country because they already have compromised immune systems. Tamiflu is not a vaccine but a drug used to limit the time one sick. |
Posted By: Rozz
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 5:39am
| Last night I read that Lauricidin is non PX and also will/may help, if you are not able to get a PX. |
Posted By: sbulldog
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 11:23am
| I think what is important to realize is that Tamiflu does not prevent flu. It only shortens the duration of symptoms. Because there is no documented transmission of person to person spread of avian flu, we really don't know how it would work once someone actually contracted the disease. If it could prevent the flu, you would need enough to take for the entire duration of an outbreak. So, in a six week outbreak, at a normal dose, you would have to have 84 pills per person. Not feasible. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 5:59am
| How many of you guys have tamiflu? (I haven't any). I wish I had managed to get some in time, but unavailable now I understand. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 11:41pm
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Honestly I would take my chance with some tamiflu rather than a vaccine. Any mutation and the vaccine does not work - tamiflu works by inhibiting the enzyme needed to replicate - thus why it works on mutiple flus.
However, tamiflu can NOT WORK if the virus adapts.
I have not yet - but working hard to aquire.
Anyone having luck getting any this late in the game?
local pharmacies say they have some left - getting a script
is another story.
Ideas? Suggestions? Cash I have - tamiflu I dont.
NV
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Posted By: detpat
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 3:12pm
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i got an rx from m y gp today and my neighborhood parmacy filled it. pat ------------- never underestimate the power of human stupidity |
Posted By: striper
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 4:50am
| I explained to this clown before that thousands die every year from flu because they are typically elderly with severly compromised immune systems. Geez..... |
Posted By: detpat
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 9:26am
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i beg your pardon, clown?? pat ------------- never underestimate the power of human stupidity |
Posted By: naplesvacation
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 11:33am
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If you are in central Florida and If you have or can get a tamiflu script for at least a 30 pack and have no cash. Cash I got/Tamiflu I dont. Maybe I can help.
PM me!
NV
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 11:50am
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I am a UK pharmacist and I can obtain Tamiflu again from one of my suppliers. It was out of stock for months but I ordered a pack yesterday just to see and it came in! So if any of you really want some - time to find a friendly doctor. They can issue a private script in the UK - you pay the price of the meds to the Pharmacist - about Ł25 for 10 capsules.
You have no chance of getting an NHS script as all NHS prescribing is monitored but the private stuff is not.
Pharmacists cannot supply this without a UK prescription so don't even ask! Nor can it be shipped it abroad as you need an export license to send meds abroad.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 6:37pm
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Hi,
Over the past few years, most people who died after having the flu, did not die from the flu virus. They died from the post flu pneumonia. Their immune systems are weakened after being so sick and an opportunistic bug sets up shop and they get pneumonia.
If you have the regular flu - stay home and stay in bed. Don't be a hero and run to the market -- that's where you get exposed to the pathogen that causes pneumonia -- usually a bacteria called streptococcus pneumoniae. Community acquired pneumonia is normally treated with antibiotics like azithromycin (zpack).
Now Avaian Influenza is different kettle of fish. It's high mortality rate is due to the fact that the vius sets up shop in the lungs (where regular flu receptor's are in the throat.) This virus can cause it's own pneumonia (viral pneumonia) and antibiotics won't work. Your only hope is an antiviral like tamiflu.
I hope it helps,
K. |
Posted By: Alfierise
Date Posted: October 30 2008 at 7:30am
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Heres a great link to a website that stocks and sells tamiflu for roughly ÂŁ10 for a years protection www.fightflunow.com its an anti-viral medication that one should take on the first offset of sympotms, as many say it is not a vaccine, as is there is no vaccine for the strain becuase it mutates too quickly it inhibits the virus from replicating which is worth it considering it can cause death hope this helps |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 19 2009 at 6:39pm
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I have no idea if tamiflu would even work on whatevr happened to come along.... but not to be left out... I decided to MAKE my own. Now stop yer laughin :)
I just bashed some Whole Chinese Star Anise (if it's whole you know it's real) in a morter and then I put it in a small bottle of vodka.... vintage 2006
I put a tiny bit in a cup of tea.... it is Very...strong. about 1/8 teasoopn is all I used in a cup of tea. Don't give it to a child without asking your doctor, of course I suggest asking a doctor before taking anything because some drugs interact, be safe.
other people wanted to try to make it. (below) Ask a drugist also as they are aware of drug interactions or what they term, contraindications. :)
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Posted By: Mariella1
Date Posted: May 04 2009 at 11:10am
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Don't know if this is the right place to ask...but here it goes! If I fear any of my family are infected I plan to use tamiflu and amantadine. This is based on info I read years ago about H5N1...today I have no idea If amantadine is still usefull and what doses? If anyone can explain this to me...Thanks! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 8:59pm
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Amantadine is not useful because the virus is resistant to this drug. We are hoping that Tamiflu will continue to work. If I were you I would use the Tamiflu first and if still sick go for the Amantadine. Go to the web sites for Tamiflu and Amantadine and it will give you the dose.
If I am wrong some of you medical people need to say different. If it was my child or family member that is what I would do. |
Posted By: mercurymom
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 11:03pm
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Mary08, where have you found Chinese Star Anise? I did not find any at my local grocery stores, and I heard most grocery stores carried it. Maybe the health food store has it, but I'm not sure. I have been looking for some. ------------- There is nothing to fear except the persistent refusal to find out the truth, the persistent refusal to analyze the causes of happenings. ~ Dorothy Thompson |
Posted By: tesla
Date Posted: May 13 2009 at 6:27am
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I can't remember which forum I read about where to purchase Tamiflu (from reputable source). Can someone point me to the correct formum? Is this an over-the-counter drug in Canada? Is there any info on oscillococcinum (natural homeopathic remedy for colds)? This is easily obtainable. What other antivirals are available (Relenza, etc) that people on this forum would recommend?
thanks
-t
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Posted By: Missy
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 11:42am
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As we know, some medications such as tamiflu has been proven to be effective in fighting the recent H1S1(swine flu). However, it has not been most effective in combating some other types of flu. Some good news: Researchers recently identified human antibodies that seem to neutralize some flu viruses, including the bird flu strain -- a finding that could lead to more-effective treatments. ------------- Missy |
Posted By: dr d
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 1:51pm
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The vast majority of people that die of the flu did not get the vaccine. Of the Peds deaths the vast majority had NOT been vaacinated. In Florida only 17.8% of the entire population received the flu shot this past year. THERE is the issue. NOT the drug ------------- Dr d |