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    Posted: November 06 2017 at 3:24am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5053013/Devin-Kelley-outcast-preached-atheism.html#ixzz4xcmbHD7M

It was only a matter of time before the massive automatic weapons market and those who hate Christians came together to bring the violence and insanity into the U.S. seen so commonly in 3rd world nations and sometimes Europe.  As a nation, America was founded on strong moral beliefs and what was freedom of religion - to worship as you choose, is also to worship Satan, abandon all morals and live whatever lifestyle suits you, and it will soon - and is already beginning to have a price. Children raised in one parent families, marriages thrown to the wind by couple unfaithful to each other and the rampant rise in drug use, all are creating a state - which some may refer to as the The Last Days.

As we raise people are not grounded and sometime have no concept of decency or even restraint, this is what happens. There will be a backlash to all of this and in the end we may see anarchy and war in the streets for the freedom to once more worship God without fear or persecution.



The Texas church shooter who mercilessly shot dead 26 people and injured 24 others was an 'outcast' who 'preached his atheism' online.

Former classmates say Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, who stormed First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs in Texas and opened fire on Sunday, was 'creepy', 'crazy' and 'weird'.

Patrick Boyce, who attended New Braunfels High School with the killer, told DailyMail.com: 'He had a kid or two, fairly normal, but kinda quiet and lately seemed depressed.

'He was the first atheist I met. He went Air Force after high school, got discharged but I don't know why. 

'I was just shocked [to hear the news]. Still haven’t quite processed how he could have done that.'

Nina Rose Nava, who went to school with the gunman, wrote on Facebook: 'In (sic) in complete shock! I legit just deleted him off my fb cause I couldn't stand his post. 

'He was always talking about how people who believe in God we're stupid and trying to preach his atheism' 

comment: It was only a matter of time. I would not encourage violence in any form, but what goes around comes around. We may soon see a generation of religious zealots who will be truly scary even to those of us who are Christians and Nazis and White Supremacists who hunt down people of color as well as stalking of gays and other alternate life styles.

It is sad that a few extremists can ruin things for a who group of people.  Sometimes I am sad I have lived so long to see what is becoming of America where all of what we once held dear, our traditions, our faith, our belief in God is being attacked to tear down and ruin our country so there is nothing left to set us apart from the rest of the world.

We were once America, the most powerful nation on earth, the most prosperous and where people would come to be safe and escape tyranny and persecution.

What happened yesterday has not happened in the history of our nation that I know of. These are things that happen in other countries where priests and nuns are dragged from their churches in the middle of prayer, decapitated, tortured to death, and all is desecrated.

I mourn today for our country. It is only the beginning of growing anarchy as Antifa plans to destroy America with pictures of a beheaded president. No good can come from this.

Mothers abandoning and doing horrible things to their children, putting them in ovens, killing their families, and three-year-olds shooting their parents or siblings.

Is this the End of Days - do we near a great war and a collapse of society in America?  I may not live to see it and if I do - wish I hadn't.

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The Real News - what they are not putting on mainstream

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Seriously, Med?

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the guy was seriously mentally ill
thats all
he had a history of domestic violence
which is the common denominator in over 50% of the mass shootings in this country
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uh oh
apparently the "Christians" are fighting back !!!

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/03/1712436/-Walmart-shooter-reportedly-lived-with-stack-of-Bibles,no-furniture-Why-isnt-he-a-terrorist?detail=emaildkre

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

uh oh
apparently the "Christians" are fighting back !!!

Walmart shooter reportedly lived with stack of Bibles, no furniture. Why isn't he a terrorist?


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/03/1712436/-Walmart-shooter-reportedly-lived-with-stack-of-Bibles,no-furniture-Why-isnt-he-a-terrorist?detail=emaildkre



Perhaps you should share your humor with the families of their loved ones who were murdered by this shooter. When people begin hunting you for your beliefs, you will understand how serious this has become. I do not believe in violence as a solution, but there is no one who is anonymous and cannot be tracked on the Internet. I know someday I may have to give my life for what I believe in and my faith. I hope you are as well.

As with Muslims, perhaps the majority of Christians are peaceful and will, as is their belief, accept this - but some will not.  I am glad there was someone there who were heroes and helped stop the shooting and pursue this creature. Some of those killed were as young as 18 months old.

The war has begun. The existence of Antifa is not fake news and the fact this individual was following social justice warriors sites and posting his support along with a picture of his automatic weapon.

It is the media - the fake news that feeds these people with blatantly false information. I pray for the victims and their families. I do not find this funny or amusing. If you do Satori, it will someday return to haunt you.

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no "humor" intended
funny that you read it that way ???

you will note that the word Christians was in quotes
I assume you can figure out what that means???

and the idea that there is a "war"  AGAIN note the use of quotation marksLOL
is RIDICULOUS
the guy MAY have targeted Christians
but he WAS seriously mentally ill
he violently assaulted his own wife and child
and was arrested for animal cruelty as well

quit making this more than it is
Antifa ain't the boogey man under yer bed !!!
(and YES,THAT AS meant as humor)LOL

what is so sad about all these mass shootings is that NOTHING will change
we will get NOTHING but USELESS "thoughts and prayers" from cowardly politicians
there will be NO common sense gun control reform
there will be no additional funds for mental health tx,which by the way< is an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE
in this country
Trump is actually CUTTING funds
so he can keep his "thoughts and prayers" and put 'em where the sun don't shine
USELESS platitudes
that do NOTHING to address the current mass murder
nor do NOTHING to prevent the next and the next and the next.......
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

the guy was seriously mentally ill
thats all
he had a history of domestic violence
which is the common denominator in over 50% of the mass shootings in this country


The war is not only in America. It is in Australia as well and getting worse by the day. It is only a matter of time until this sort of violence starts erupting in The Land Down Under.

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2017/07/27/ongoing-war-christianity-australia/

Hi Bill, there is no doubt about it, the whole Australian education system is under attack. We need to stand up for our Christian children within the school system. We also need to support the large numbers of young Christian Men & Woman who have had to walk away from state run teacher training courses because their strong Bible based beliefs are at odds with the LGBT curriculum requirements. Unfortunately it’s only going to get worse. Jesus was not kidding when He declared; “If they’re going to persecute me, then they’ll persecute you too”. Unfortunately for those who seek to destroy Australia’s Christian Heritage, Romans 14:10-12 does promise a day of reckoning. Bill this article serves as a reality check for the level of persecution that Christianity can expect. Your efforts are to be commended, Blessings, Kel.





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here ya go
something to REALLY get worked up about
other than the non-existent "war" on Christianity

More than 30 million Americans are in danger of losing health care thanks to the Republican Congress

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/6/1713219/-More-than-30-million-Americans-are-in-danger-of-losing-healthcare-thanks-to-the-Republican-congress


all thanks to our "Christian" President no less
hmmm
WWJD ???
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

no "humor" intended
funny that you read it that way ???

you will note that the word Christians was in quotes
I assume you can figure out what that means???

comment: I know that Christians are being targeted and beheaded in some nations whether the name is in quotes or not.

and the idea that there is a "war"  AGAIN note the use of quotation marksLOL
is RIDICULOUS
the guy MAY have targeted Christians
but he WAS seriously mentally ill
he violently assaulted his own wife and child
and was arrested for animal cruelty as well

comment: Anyone who kills another person is mentally ill except when people are trying to protect people as in the police or protect our country as in a war. The mentally ill are the most susceptible to left anarchist propaganda and most likely to kill people inflamed by it. It was the groups this man followed on Facebook and the media that honed his hatred of Christians and encouraged him to kill them. 

quit making this more than it is
Antifa ain't the boogey man under yer bed !!!
(and YES,THAT AS meant as humor)LOL

comment: Antifa is not humorous. Keep laughing. I'm not.



what is so sad about all these mass shootings is that NOTHING will change
we will get NOTHING but USELESS "thoughts and prayers" from cowardly politicians
comment: The mothers and fathers and family of those murder praying today are not useless. And things will change.

there will be NO common sense gun control reform

comment: It is not the guns, but the sick people that must be helped. If you take away the guns, then people will not be able to defend themselves. If you make guns illegal, then only criminals will have them and when law enforcement cannot respond quickly enough - more people will die. It you take away the guns, they will use knives, gas, explosives, or whatever they can, especially explosives. Imagine a large bomb set off in the church. Everyone would have been killed.


there will be no additional funds for mental health tx,which by the way< is an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE
in this country

comment: It is not the responsibility of the executive branch to pass laws. It is duty and legal right and function of Congress to do so. The funds will come from there and any bill can be introduced for mental health care and other preventative medicine. The current Obamacare does not handle this. Perhaps a new form of healthcare would.  This man is a primary example of poor mental health care and effective monitoring when someone is a potential killer.

Trump is actually CUTTING funds
so he can keep his "thoughts and prayers" and put 'em where the sun don't shine
USELESS platitudes

comment: There is nothing to prevent any congress person or senator from introducing better legislation for the mentally ill.
that do NOTHING to address the current mass murder
nor do NOTHING to prevent the next and the next and the next.......


comment: What can be done to prevent more of the same is to focus on the issues which are the root of the problem. No amount of drugs can fix a mentally ill society which is iv fed lies by its mainstream media. This is not about Trump. It is about a current nation on the verge of anarchy and outbreaks of violence. This is only the beginning.  A few days ago Antifa began trying to overthrow the U.S. government.  This is only the tip of the iceberg of what is to come. And be sure no matter how far out in the bush you may be - it will come to Australia just like any other virus and be a threat to you as well.

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Seriously, Med?  

The guy was a wife beater, animal abuser, child abuser and violent sh1tbag!  He was only at war with his family.  

To think anything else, shows you are reading fantasy, not news.
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America a "christian country",

no health care for ALL??????

i just cant get my head around that one ,i mean it just does not make sense,

and this Nutter just wanted his 5 minutes in the press ............

"thats all folks nothing new here move on"

blame everyone apart from your GUN laws ,

and your mental health system which  i bet you have to pay for 

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Seriously, Med?  

The guy was a wife beater, animal abuser, child abuser and violent sh1tbag!  He was only at war with his family.  

To think anything else, shows you are reading fantasy, not news.


Are you on Facebook? Have you read his page or looked at the groups he was in. I have. His page is down now - in fact Facebook was down a few hours ago. The media have purged a lot of the Internet of information on this guy.

The most flimsy argument is "but he was crazy". Most people who are mass murderers are just that. Yet the social media now is more powerful than it has ever been in history. People live on Facebook, Skype and in Cyber worlds. They are lost without their smart phones, doing selfies and talking to their friends. He was one of these and crazy or not - followed CNN and listened to their fake news. He support the football players kneeling while they player our national anthem. He posted about this. Do you know this guy... really?  His friends did and also the family - and they have stories that were not even released when Fox and CNN took the ball and entered the game.

A mob is crazy. It is group crazy. And a mob no longer is just driven by someone shouting or a megaphone - it is driven by CNN, Washington Post, The New York Times, and the enemies of America.

Wait and watch - I posted this thread early this morning - in a month - in two months - things will be worse - and this will matter - it is only the beginning.

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This explains much (I am a serious firearm owner and collector):


Very, very few of the guns in America are used for hunting. Americans who own guns today keep arsenals in a way people did not 40 years ago. It seems plain to me that that’s because they—not all, but many—have given themselves over to fantasies.

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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

America a "christian country",

no health care for ALL??????

i just cant get my head around that one ,i mean it just does not make sense,

and this Nutter just wanted his 5 minutes in the press ............

"thats all folks nothing new here move on"

blame everyone apart from your GUN laws ,

comment: This one I will agree with you about. Perhaps logically it would seem that people would use other ways to kill each other...


http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/health/australia-gun-law-reform-study/index.html

The researchers noticed that after the enactment of nationwide gun law reform in May 1996, there were no mass shootings in Australia. The researchers defined mass fatal shootings as those with five or more victims killed, not including the perpetrator. (U.S. statutes define a "mass killing" as an incident resulting in three or more deaths. The commonly accepted definition -- the one the FBI used up to 2013 -- is a shooting that killed four or more people.)

however while there may be few mass killings the over all violence deaths as a result of guns may increase when people can't protect themselves. The debate will continue as in inner cities a handgun will not do much against an AK-47 assault rifle (Reno - Nevada). Do you need an Uzi or armor piercing bullets to hunt deer? No. A lot of sales occur at gun shows versus stores. Yet, with all of the laws, a person such as Devin Kelley could still get an illegal weapon. People will always be able to get illegal weapons. 

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and your mental health system which  i bet you have to pay for 

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"The most flimsy argument is "but he was crazy".

uh oh
someone is in big trouble LOL

directly contradicting our President ???

what the %$^$#@  ???

Trump Says Deadly Texas Shooting Isn’t A Guns Issue, It’s A Mental Health Problem


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-texas-shooting-mental-health-problem_us_5a0004c8e4b0c96530006f16?section=us_politics

I quote our illustrious President
"“This is a mental health problem at the highest level."

“very deranged individual.”

"I think mental health is your problem here."

well at least I agree with Trump on this LOL

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and of course the blithering idiots at FAUX News weigh in
with some obscenely STOOPID comments

Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt: 'There's No Other Place' To Be Murdered Than In Church

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/fox-news-ainsley-earhardt-theres-no-other


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You can repost what you like Med,but you never answer the question,why don't you have a health system for all,and amurika is known world wide for it's INSANE gun culture......and lack of safe guards when buying a weapon
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