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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Satori, you are correct. Did Conservatives burn Flags or march in the streets in protest when Obama was elected president...NO!

Liberals only like election results only if Liberals Win!

Get over it we had too in 2008 and 2012!



I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm getting a kick out of watching the down in the mouth commentators on CNN.

Did anyone notice that Hillary wore funeral colors of black and purple when she gave her concession speech? Bill Clinton had on a purple tie and the Cain's wife also had on purple. That must have been planned. Even 1 CNN commentator wore purple the next day. Poor babies.
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This is far more serious and denial isn't going to help. Whether these protests are organized to upset the peace and bring anarchy to the streets of our large cities is not relevant. 

One should realize that extremist thinking is not logical - it is emotional and lynch mobs are not led by people who one can reason with.

They are correct in the chant "The whole world is watching". It most certainly is. As we have provided the media almost absolute power to influence minds and elections, it matters.  Terrorists know this and are becoming more and more able to take their message to the media.

Perhaps the new "wise men" are oblivious to the power of actors and actresses, famous people, and icons to deeply stir America. It was music that fueled the protests of the 60s and drugs that brought about  the social revolution of free love and anti-religion that have brought us where we are today.

It is not a tempest in a teapot. It is a tempest. In a war, it isn't that important if the fighters are mercemnaries. Perhaps they may lack the patriotism and will fight underneath any flag, but they still take cities and people still die.

Our nation is split.  We have a 50/50 vote for two diametrically opposed candidates.

http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1980s/1989/no-1019-july-1989/1789-france%E2%80%99s-bourgeois-revolution
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Ironically, it was Trump who appealed to the working class which won the final phase of the election- the rust belt, the coal miners, the industries in the U.S. that have failed. General Motors is in serious trouble and cutting a huge number of jobs. It is extremely doubtful the current riots are working class - so it becomes a little different here as to who exactly is organizing these protests and why.

It is doubtful they are for the good of the American people, middle class, or workers. It is because a social agenda was established to promote racism and favortism for certain groups and this has now been denied, people are in the streets. It is not about equality. It is about programs which help people who are not citizens and are draining America of its jobs, heal resources, and overwhelming the education system and budgets. We cannot afford to educate and help everyone who makes it across the border. It is killing California. 

Celebrities gain exposure and make money by endorsing extremists. Urging people to leave our country and move to Canada is not patriotism. You cannot change or address the issues if you flee the country.

DrJohn Ray and I were talking at some length about this and these protests appear focused on causing so much chaos as to create a situation where possibly the president would step in and declare a national emergency.

These are not forgive and forget people. A call for unity after inciting the masses to diversify based on race, religion, and sexual preference cannot be undone in a day. No one is fooled by smiling faces and enemies who declared them unfit to rule America. They still think it as do their followers. Despite what the enamored leaders may think of themselves, the public is not all that impressed with them or congress.

Is there a problem?  Yes there is. And it's not going to go away in a day.


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The problem I have with all this, is the people that are going out and doing all this demonstrating and tearing things up, setting fires, breaking windows, damaging police cars...they are the ones tearing up our country, giving us a bad name, dividing the people. They are doing what they accuse Trump of doing, only he is not the one doing it, they are. You did not see people out in the streets doing this when Obama was elected both times and believe me there were/are tons of Obama haters out there still. They did not do that, they sucked it up and said we can deal with this, we can make it ok.

That being said and again just my opinion, which is not worth much. I am neither a Trump or Obama supporter or Hillary for that matter. I voted for Gary Johnson this year, first time in my life I have ever voted 3rd party.
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They are now using my term "Anarchy in the Streets" or close to it. Portland was bad. It became a riot. People are getting hurt. This is not settling down. It is not on the main Fox page - but is in U.S. There were 4,000 people. That is no sit-in.

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It just goes to show how spoiled and immature many people have become in this country. If people don't have it "their" way, then they riot.

Unfortunately, many of these people are paid demonstrators from the "move on" organization sponsored by George Soros. The Clinton campaign also paid people to demonstrate at Donald Trump rallies. All of this behavior is simply bad and ridiculous.

The MoveOn.org now has a petition to ban the electoral college. Donald Trump is the 5th president to have won this way, but some of the mod's even on this forum are upset with the electoral college deciding the matter.

People need to grow up and accept "what is". It would be nice if our Muslim in Chief actually spoke up about this bad behavior for a change, but I believe he's secretly cheering them on.
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Well said Crabby!
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They are gearing up this morning for a massive Trump protest in LA. Estimates are that we will see as many as 10,000 people take to the streets. The question is whether this will turn violent and whether the police will make an effort to control this - and there will be one serious confrontation or many.

You cannot wave a lit torch near a pile of leaves and twigs and not expect it to catch fire. The number of people greatly increase the chance of problems as well as many opportunistic "just want to raise a little hell" people really hurting or killing someone.

LA Times is geared up and ready to pump this out to the world as if it were representive of the current national situation. It is not. I have been told by people traveling through the Midwest and South they drove through states and saw little or no Hillary posters or support of any kind.

No matter how much the East and West coast liberals want to run the country, it isn't going to happen. The United States after nearly 250 years has a lot of built in safety valves and the Electoral College System is one of them. Some of this is about as effective as going to City Hall with a traffic ticket and protesting the fine and hoping to win. Some people do this religously and are at constant war with the establishment and criminal justice system.

We certainly don't want to see our youth become criminalized by opportunistic politicians working them up and feeding fear and racial hatred to escalate the violence.

Stay tuned - I will be in LA cyberspace and I very much think a great deal could happen as the day progresses.

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Let them burn down LA and see if the rest of the country cares! Sorry, but the conservatives have sucked it up for 8 years. These people are really being misled by Liberal leaders who want to make this county look bad. But it is their city and if they burn and loot oh well!
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Los Angeles Trump protests - 7 minutes ago -



Crowds are gathering for the Los Angeles protest against Trump. The fact that Black Lives Matter is there is not a big plus for it being non-violent. This is being organized by a Latino Group and really is recruiting minorities and LGBT to try and have Electors change their vote and put Hillary Clinton in as president. It is really not reliable what the actual final popular vote count was. It is likely it does not represent the actual vote and is so small it is not a mandate of the people by any means.

Earlier today this was filmed of the police mobilzing to deal with the protestors on Westbound 10 in LA blocked the freeway.

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There are a lot of people protesting in LA. It is hitting the mainstream media. 

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There's more underneath the surface of these demonstrations than meets the eye.
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LOL, CNN is showing Anthony Bourdain Parts tonight so no press for the demonstrators across America...boo hoo!

Med you are the only one showing the demonstrators and not many people watch the 10/11 o'clock news on a Saturday night. LOL, just looked at CNN and Fox online and not one mention of this demonstration in LA. and NO photos of today's march are online at CNN or Fox.

Sorry the press is moving on to other topics. The press may be realizing that by publishing the marches and riots only makes matters worse.

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November 26, 2016

PITTSBURGH – A man is dead and three others injured after assailants emerged from a wooded area and sprayed a Pittsburgh streetscape with bullets.

Authorities identified the dead man as 22-year-old Niles Young in Saturday's shooting. Police were investigating and say the attackers fired at least 15 shots.

Police also say a 29-year-old woman was shot in the arm, an 11-year-old girl was grazed in the foot and an 8-year-old boy was cut when he was struck by glass from a window shattered by a stray bullet.

Man killed after attackers spray city street with bullets

comment: The situation in the large cities is getting worse as law enforcement becomes and endangered species in a climate of increasing anarchy.

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A police officer friend of mine said he saw on Craigslist that people were being paid to protest at these events, $18 an hour. It was a job ad.
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Morale in the Chicago PD is pretty low these days....


Mind you, the officers have an unsettling tendency to shoot unarmed black teenagers!  I've watched a lot of film, nearly all of these shootings were not justified in my professional opinion.   However, a perp making a grab at an officer's sidearm is a justifiable reason for an officer to shoot.  

We appear to be approaching a state of anarchy in our US cities, so plan accordingly.  Any natural event (pandemic, solar flare, food/water shortage etc.) could spark it off.  
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What a way to start the day. Four black people torture a disabled white person for voting for Trump. In the interest of fairness to black people, this is not representative of millions of African Americans. Just like I find KKK abhorent and would never back the terrible things they have done, there is a segment of blacks - i.e. Black Lives Matter who are as bad as all of the KKK that have ever lived.

I have not posted this video to be watched here but I feel it is a better representation of black educated young people who do not back this event. It happened in Chicago and was broadcast live feed on Facebook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfsGn4-ic3Q

Violence in Chicago is at an all time high.  And not only will white people be targeted but police officers as well. As I posted earlier, a lifelong friend of mine was in a restaurant eating lunch with a police officer when a person came in and shot him dead right in front of him.

There has been a bloodless revolution in the United States as minorities have literally taken over huge parts of major cities including San Jose where I grew up. As the media and music pump out cultural norms filled with zero belief in God in any form, glorification of violence, huge drug use where whole states are addicted to pain meds and illegal drugs, and the rise of alternate life styles is hurting America, not helping it.

The pendulum swings.  It is very possible we are on the virge of a new generation of religious zealots who will be out huntihng and even eating people in response to these kind of hate crimes. Americans, especially whites, have been pressured over the last 4 decades to accept what has been a worsening situation. The stream of immigrants who have literally overwhelmed our public services and medical care has reduced white people to a minority group.

People do have a right to vote for who they want. That is called a democracy. I cannot remember historically any person being tortured for voting for someone in America.

Whatever propaganda this may be - it will not stop Trump from taking office unless he is assassinated. If this happens there will be a racial war and anarchy in the streets. This is not going to happen in time for Obama to declare martial law and stay in office.

America is split right down the middle and the majority - and truly counting the immigrant votes - it still probably was the majority - voted for Trump. 

The Democratic party now has to live with that as well as loss of control of both houses of congress.

There will be a backlash to this incident on a disabled white person. There will be more such incidents and there will be anarachy in the streets in some major American cities - God help us all if they kill him.

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Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

It is very possible we are on the virge of a new generation of religious zealots who will be out huntihng and even eating people in response to these kind of hate crimes



Calm down, Med. I agree we're on the cusp of a turbulent period in US history, but cannibalism seems like a bit of a stretch from where I'm sitting.


Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

...there is a segment of blacks - i.e. Black Lives Matter who are as bad as all of the KKK that have ever lived.


I'm trying to stay out of politicized discussions, but I have to call BS on this one, Med. Either you don't know much about the history of the KKK and the sheer level of institutionalized violence that was directed toward the black community in the years prior to the rise of the civil rights movement in the States, or you're choosing to ignore it to make a point. Either way, that comment needs to be countered.

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I haven't seen any evidence that this guy was targeted for being a Trump voter
reports do say he was "MENTALLY CHALLENGED"
(Trump supporter? mentally challenged? ,ok,too easy,I'm gonna let that goLOL )
did he even vote at all ?
as of right now
this is just a criminal act,and certainly one that appears racist in nature

lets not turn a mole hill into Mount Everest
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

I haven't seen any evidence that this guy was targeted for being a Trump voter
reports do say he was "MENTALLY CHALLENGED"
(Trump supporter? mentally challenged? ,ok,too easy,I'm gonna let that goLOL )
did he even vote at all ?
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this is just a criminal act,and certainly one that appears racist in nature

lets not turn a mole hill into Mount Everest

This is not the first such event to happen in Chicago, which is where I'm sitting as I type this.  


This stuff could be a slippery slope into full-scale racial warfare, and I'm not happy about it.  
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I well remember  the riots of the 60's

this stuff today is kiddie stuff by comparison
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